Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

There is a lot of restlessness among us.

We are on this site posting about things we are faced with.
Is he or was he?
Will it happen or not?
Who is right & who is wrong?

I for one feel that an answer now is wanted.
We need to get down to the task of putting our nation back on track.
We need to be sure that the trip we need to take into our future is the best one for most of us.
A system where we are not do deeply divided.
A system where we can live with as much individual freedom as possible in a complex world.

Not my way or your way but our way.

What kind of world do we prepare our self for?
Do we or could we find the trust in each other to take the steps needed to be the world that is best for us as individuals?
Or do we preparing our self to deal with h**e that is consuming us now?

So where are we at now?

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

The most prevalent h**e today is the ridiculous h**e for President Trump.

Who just happens to be the one leader who is trying to take America to the very place you're dreaming about.

Democrats don't care about American citizens.

They care more about foreigners, migrants, muslims and refugees than they do about American citizens.

The democrat party is the party of 'Treason'.

Trump believes as we believe.

We believe in 'America First'.

What the heck do you think we mean when we say "Make America Great Again"....................Goober ?

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

You are loyal as a dog--God bless you for that. We do need to look to the good in each other beyond our differences . It takes all kinds to make the world go round my pappy used to say. The house and the senate need to quit concentrating so much on who has power and be for doing the buisness of the American people.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Spot on, Tom!

Sadly, blind loyalty involves being loyal to a person or cause despite the damage the person or cause does to himself/herself or others. Excusing bad behaviour in the name of protecting allegiance to another seems honorable at first, but is ultimately dangerous as silence is a form of collusion.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

My 'loyalty' is to God 'only'.

And I will stand with 'any' man who believes in "America First".

You'll have to find another excuse, because belittling Trump supporters won't chase away your boogey man.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

I appreciate your willingness to stand with me, Wolf, for I truly believe in 'America First'.

Sadly, IMHO, our President believes first and foremost in Donald Trump.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

A man who believes in himself is the kind of man who could become the leader of the Free world and shock nation's with a triumph like no one imagined.

And now he has even got 'you' saying " America First ".

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

I was saying & putting 'America First' well before The Donald said "no thanks...bone spurs."

I find his patriotism as thin and flimsy as an onion's dry outer skin.

Good night, Wolf.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

When you finish polishing your war hero medals you should salute your commander in chief.

Trump is already into his second year of military service and he's doing it as the highest ranking officer in the entire military.

What was 'your' ranking........Goober ?

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Good mornin' to you, Wolf.

Forgive me, any who are already familiar with this, but my feelings for Vets (especially 'Nam Vets) run deep. The below article & following commentary may help explain a major source of my distaste for Donald Trump. I doubt my lack of regard for him will ever change, though I regret that it often creates a schism between myself and others. Internet search: 'donaldtrumpspersonalvietnam ' for more on the following...

In 1997, Donald Trump, who showed his personal courage by dodging the draft in the 1960’s, had the gall to compare his heroism by sleeping with multiple women to the heroism shown by the brave men and women who served the United States in Vietnam.

Interviewed by Howard Stern in 1997-98, Trump had the audacity to make the incredible claim that, by risking his schlong to venereal disease from his sexual peccadilloes, his courage matched those who gave their lives facing mortar fire and bullets across the sea. Speaking of his sexual exploits, Trump bragged, “I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world. It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary, like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era. It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier”...Donald Trump, likening his risk of STDs from sleeping around to American soldiers in Vietnam. In one interview, he went so far as to suggest that his exploits were worthy of the Congressional Medal of Honor.

Trump has a history of hyperbolic statements regarding his own courage, having likened his time in military boarding school to actual military training. He told the author of a book about Trump that his time in military school gave him “more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military.” The rich man protected himself by gaining multiple deferments to avoid being drafted while others fought overseas.

Trump likening himself to genuine heroes dovetails with his “genuine” regard for veterans in general; Trump’s respect ends when it endangers his business. In 1991, he wrote a letter to John Dearie, then-chairman of the state Assembly’s Committee on Cities, decrying the presence of veterans who were peddling on Fifth Avenue. Trump wrote: “While disabled veterans should be given every opportunity to earn a living, is it fair to do so to the detriment of the city as a whole or its tax paying citizens and businesses? Do we allow Fifth Ave., one of the world’s finest and most luxurious shopping districts, to be turned into an outdoor flea market, clogging and seriously downgrading the area?” The city of New York started making peddling exceptions for veterans in 1894 so disabled Civil War veterans could make a living.

Of course, this is also the same man of courage who said of Sen. John McCain, locked in a box for five years in Vietnam rather than desert his comrades-in-arms, “He’s not a war hero. I like people that weren’t captured, OK?”

Trump comparing his risk of venereal disease to the heroism of those who fought and died for their country is enough to turn your stomach.
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Feeling further comments were due about Donald Trumps' comments on the Howard Stern Show about twenty years ago, I wrote the following:

In the field, particularly, but also on the hospital ship USS Sanctuary in 1968, I saw kids my age whose bodies were ripped apart by gunfire from rifles or automatic weapons, artillery rounds, mortar rounds and booby traps from the enemy in Viet Nam. My lesser wounds allowed me times to walk through the wards visiting those who were left without arms, legs, g*****ls or had suffered damage to various body parts...including their facial structure and features. Many had also lost all sense of who they were before incurring such wounds, from psychological and emotional damage. A kid younger than I from the bed next to me ended up dying. IMO, he died of a broken heart. The day before, he had received a 'Dear John' letter from his fiancee' back home. That letter (again, IMO) destroyed his will to live. This, after he had struggled mightily to achieve a certain degree of recovery, enough for having been scheduled to go on to Japan for better treatment and surgery necessary to guarantee a somewhat normal life.

For Trump, in any way, to compare the 'dangers' of dating from STDs, etc. to the experiences of young men who sacrificed their lives or body parts in combat service to their country in Viet Nam or any war was/is abominable to me. When I first became aware of his comments, I was livid with anger. This many years later, I am reminded of the callousness and obvious disregard for the feelings of friends or families who lost loved ones in that or any war shown by Mr. Trump. Whether one chooses to call his tone "mocking," "sarcastic," or just down-right thoughtless, I cannot forgive him. Neither could I tolerate his belittling of John McCain's service or the associated belittling of all POWs for 'getting captured.' I won't listen to anybody who tells me he didn't demean all of them with his all-encompassing remarks. I watched while listening to his own words. I personally know two living POWs and knew a survivor of the Bataan death march of American POWs in WWII. The last died a number of years ago, but the other two survived tortuous treatment by their captors and remain with us today. By surviving, they each were able to return and have families that, no doubt, help each forget the months and years of their imprisonments.

Trump's statements exceeded stupid, especially since he was playing to an audience and being recorded, both for radio and TV...and, for posterity. He was, at that time, around the age of fifty...an age most would have shown some maturity and empathy for those who did not have his good fortune in escaping service before, during and after college, but instead served their nation. Again, the families and friends of those who either didn't return from that horrific war, or, returned physically and/or psychologically maimed did/do not need to be hearing of Mr. Trump's bravery and courage in the dating game being equated to other's service to country.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

BTW, it is understood that Trump "is certainly not the first American leader to receive draft deferments. Former vice president Joe Biden received five student deferments, former VP Dick Cheney received five deferments, and former president Bill Clinton received deferments and even penned a letter to an ROTC officer thanking him for "saving me from the draft." (It should also be noted that before Clinton's administration, L***Q servicemen and women were banned from serving. In his time, the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy began, which forced them to conceal their identities or risk being discharged, effectively condoning discrimination.) This column will afford these men no absolution for their decisions, but what makes Trump's behavior obscene is that despite having never served, he has fashioned himself as the arbiter of military courage.

It was Trump who, as a p**********l candidate in July 2015, dissed Senator John McCain, a former prisoner of war for roughly five and a half years during Vietnam, by stating, "I like people who weren't captured." He publicly disrespected Khizr Muazzam Khan and Ghazala Khan, the gold-star Pakistani-American parents of Army captain Humayun Khan, who was k**led in combat in 2004 and posthumously awarded a Purple Heart for his bravery. Not only did Trump attack an immigrant family who made a sacrifice for their adopted nation, but he even compared their loss to the "sacrifices" he made while becoming a real estate tycoon. To insult the family of Khan, who died at war at 27 — just two years older than Trump was when he received his 4-F classification, permanently disqualifying him from military service — by comparing it to his own business ventures is a claim only made equitable in the mind of a man with little recognition of his own internalized cowardice."

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

Again, Trump is now the highest ranking officer in the entire military.

He joined of his own free will and has made it possible for millions of veterans to receive the healthcare that they deserve.

He signed into law the $717 billion National Defense Authorization Act that includes a 2.6 percent pay increase for military personnel, the largest raise in almost a decade. and He and Melania continue to show appreciation to all who serve.

I'm proud and appreciative for the millions who gave their lives in battle.

They don't get to sit around polishing their medals, bragging about their service and disrespecting their commander in chief.

Your disrespect for your superior officer is not a good example of the discipline that the military is honored for.

You've forsaken honor and given over to jealousy, hatred and disrespect.

Trump is a phenomenal military leader.

And nothing you have ever done or ever will do, can compare to what Trump has done for the military and this great country.

roy

As many in our milatary have been k**led this year ,i have not heard trump say one word. Va is still in disaray,so many vets still dieing because they cant get the help they need,seems like if trump really cared as he said he would fix va,that would have been the first promise he would have kept,just more lip service,and i think many vets relize it now.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

You haven't heard Trump say a word because you haven't been listening.

You haven't been listening because your mind has been duped by the media and the l*****t losers.

Trump and Melania continually express their love and appreciation for the military.

https://youtu.be/KRRkroPVKr4

Go mash your sour grapes elsewhere.........Goober !

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Respectfully, we will continue to disagree over the merits or lack thereof with regards to our current and/or past presidents. That is acceptable, as this is still America where people are freely allowed do so.

You have a great day, Wolf.