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Does the Roman Catholic Church have the authority of Christ? - No
Dec 11, 2018 18:39:20   #
Rose42
 
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The Catholic Church claims to have the authority for of Christ to the apostles (CCC 77, 85, 88, 895, 1495, 888). But, can the Pope and the Bishops do what Jesus and the apostles did? Jesus said his authority to forgive sins was demonstrated by his miracles which he exercised on command (Matt. 9:6; Luke 5:24; John 5:8). He gave this authority to the disciples to pronounce forgiveness of sins (John 20:23), heal all disease and sickness (Matt. 10:1), as well as raise the dead (Matt. 10:8). Jesus healed the lame (Matt. 15:30; 21:14). Peter healed the lame on command (Acts 3:6) as did Paul (Acts 14:8-10). Jesus healed paralytics on command (Luke 5:24; Matt. 9:6; Mark 2:10-12). Peter also healed the paralytic on command (Acts 9:34). Jesus raised the dead with a command (Mark 5:38-42; Luke 7:14-15; John 11:43-44). Peter raised the dead by command (Acts 9:40-41). So, apostolic authority was clearly demonstrated by the apostles uttering commands of healing and raising the dead. Since Jesus gave the apostles the authority to do the miraculous on command (Matt. 10:1, 8), then those with the apostle’s authority (the Pope and the Bishops) should be able to do the same thing since they claim to have the same apostolic authority. Since the Pope and Bishops do not do the miraculous on command (otherwise it would be known to all), then they do not have apostolic authority.

https://carm.org/does-the-catholic-church-have-the-authority-of-christ

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Dec 12, 2018 10:47:06   #
bahmer
 
Rose42 wrote:
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The Catholic Church claims to have the authority for of Christ to the apostles (CCC 77, 85, 88, 895, 1495, 888). But, can the Pope and the Bishops do what Jesus and the apostles did? Jesus said his authority to forgive sins was demonstrated by his miracles which he exercised on command (Matt. 9:6; Luke 5:24; John 5:8). He gave this authority to the disciples to pronounce forgiveness of sins (John 20:23), heal all disease and sickness (Matt. 10:1), as well as raise the dead (Matt. 10:8). Jesus healed the lame (Matt. 15:30; 21:14). Peter healed the lame on command (Acts 3:6) as did Paul (Acts 14:8-10). Jesus healed paralytics on command (Luke 5:24; Matt. 9:6; Mark 2:10-12). Peter also healed the paralytic on command (Acts 9:34). Jesus raised the dead with a command (Mark 5:38-42; Luke 7:14-15; John 11:43-44). Peter raised the dead by command (Acts 9:40-41). So, apostolic authority was clearly demonstrated by the apostles uttering commands of healing and raising the dead. Since Jesus gave the apostles the authority to do the miraculous on command (Matt. 10:1, 8), then those with the apostle’s authority (the Pope and the Bishops) should be able to do the same thing since they claim to have the same apostolic authority. Since the Pope and Bishops do not do the miraculous on command (otherwise it would be known to all), then they do not have apostolic authority.

https://carm.org/does-the-catholic-church-have-the-authority-of-christ
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That sounds reasonable to me I wonder if the Roman Catholic Church has an excuse for this one?

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Dec 12, 2018 11:49:18   #
Rose42
 
bahmer wrote:
That sounds reasonable to me I wonder if the Roman Catholic Church has an excuse for this one?


They sure do and I've read several. I won't post any of it because it's fiction. The author of this particular article summed it up very nicely - I only posted the summary. The Catholic doctrine is much more convoluted and places the bulk of its reasoning on it's falsified traditions.

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