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Dec 11, 2018 17:03:00   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
Again raw nonsense, provide the lies the New York Times published about Trump that you claimed. You can’t because it is unlikely you even read or have read the Times you just parrot propaganda, and Trumps lies.


I believe I have covered it all. Do your own research from this point on.

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Dec 11, 2018 22:31:57   #
Kevyn
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I believe I have covered it all. Do your own research from this point on.
You are now a proven liar, not one example.

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Dec 11, 2018 23:08:45   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
You are now a proven liar, not one example.


I have you plenty. It is you who lies. Do you deny the negative coverage, the 24/7 Trump bashing? Do you, boy?

Why not deny Clinton's crimes. Lol!

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Dec 12, 2018 01:03:00   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
It's been said by many that any money spent to help a campaign is a campaign donation and must, by law, be reported.

Well, we and the owners of CNN, MSNBC, the NYT and WaPo know, all too wwell, that their "journalists" are working to subvert the Trump administration and were, before the e******n, working to subvert his campaign. They were, in fact, campaigning against Trump and FOR Hillary Clinton. The owners of these stations knew this to be the fact of what their "journalists" were doing and openly paid their salaries.

I'd like to know why their salary payments to these "journalists" are not, in fact then, campaign contributions?????? They certainly knew the bias of their "journalists" and knew for a fact that they were working to help candidates, especially Hillary Clinton.

These payments made by Cohen and the National Enquirer, especially the later, seem to me to be pretty much the same as paying those salaries of the guys trying to help Clinton through their reporting. And, I seriously doubt they were reported as such by the Clinton campaign and others.
It's been said by many that any money spent to hel... (show quote)
Yeah, the l*****t media not only gave Hillary millions of free support, encouragement, polling and advertising, much of it in the form of slanderous attacks on Trump during his candidacy, as the nominee and after his victory.

Between Jan. 1 2015 and Aug. 30 2016, those who identified themselves in federal campaign finance filings as journalists, reporters, news editors or television news anchors — and others known to be working in journalism — donated $382,000 combined to the Clinton campaign.

In addition,

George Soros, through a variety of fronts, donated $8 million to Hillary's campaign;

The media took no notice of the federal court filing that exposed an $84 million money-laundering conspiracy the DNC and the Clinton campaign executed during the 2016 p**********l e******n in violation of federal campaign-finance law;

While the Uranium One deal was on the table, the Justice Department uncovered evidence that Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation, creating the appearance, at least of a conflict of interest, since Hillary Clinton, who was then Secretary of State, signed off on the Uranium One purchase.

When Hillary Clinton agreed to be Secretary of State during President Obama's first term, she promised her distance from the Clinton Foundation. The foundation also agreed to limit foreign donations.

Both agreements were for good reasons. Foreign officials and governments were big donors to the Clintons' family foundation, and there were concerns in the Obama administration about conflicts of interest between the foundation and Hillary Clinton's work at Secretary of State.

But during the p**********l campaign, evidence emerged that both Clinton and the foundation had failed to live up to those promises. Clinton and her top officials continued to have a cozy relationship with the foundation throughout her tenure at State, and evidence strongly suggest that Clinton was granting access and favors to major Clinton Foundation donors.

In addition, the Clinton Foundation accepted millions of donations from foreign governments while Hillary was at State, including one that violated an ethics agreement it had with the Obama administration.


In total, the Hillary Campaign raised $795 million, nearly twice what Trump had raised. Trump invested $88 million of his own money and he sold his entire stock portfolio for $40 million. In total Trump raised $400 million.

In her book, "What Happened", Hillary suggests that Donald Trump got $5 billion in free media coverage. She never mentions that 96% of it was negative.

Cohen paid Daniels from his law firm's account. Not a CFL violation. Those who have been paying attention to the details already know the entire sordid affair surrounding Daniels attempts to vilify president Trump. She secured the services of the sleaze shyster Avenatti who filed two lawsuits in LA district court for defamation of character (this is no joke). For breach of a legal contract (the none disclosure agreement with Trump), the federal judge threw out her suits and ordered her to pay Trump's legal fees, a total of $294,000--over twice what she was paid to keep her mouth shut.

I heard an attorney who is quite familiar with the CFL explain it this way. A candidate buys a new suit, a new pair of shoes, and gets manicure, a shave and a haircut, and he rents a limo. He does this to improve his image, to help his campaign. He pays for the clothing and services out of his own pocket. This expenditure is not a violation of CFL. Even if he paid with his wife's credit card or a friend loaned him the money, it is not a violation of CFL.

Compiled from these sources:
NYT
WaPo
New Yorker
FEC.gov
NCSL.org
Business Insider
Open Secrets
The Hill
Time.com
Campaign Finance Institute
Dayton Daily News
Maplight
The Federalist

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Dec 12, 2018 09:41:21   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yeah, the l*****t media not only gave Hillary millions of free support, encouragement, polling and advertising, much of it in the form of slanderous attacks on Trump during his candidacy, as the nominee and after his victory.

Between Jan. 1 2015 and Aug. 30 2016, those who identified themselves in federal campaign finance filings as journalists, reporters, news editors or television news anchors — and others known to be working in journalism — donated $382,000 combined to the Clinton campaign.

In addition,

George Soros, through a variety of fronts, donated $8 million to Hillary's campaign;

The media took no notice of the federal court filing that exposed an $84 million money-laundering conspiracy the DNC and the Clinton campaign executed during the 2016 p**********l e******n in violation of federal campaign-finance law;

While the Uranium One deal was on the table, the Justice Department uncovered evidence that Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation, creating the appearance, at least of a conflict of interest, since Hillary Clinton, who was then Secretary of State, signed off on the Uranium One purchase.

When Hillary Clinton agreed to be Secretary of State during President Obama's first term, she promised her distance from the Clinton Foundation. The foundation also agreed to limit foreign donations.

Both agreements were for good reasons. Foreign officials and governments were big donors to the Clintons' family foundation, and there were concerns in the Obama administration about conflicts of interest between the foundation and Hillary Clinton's work at Secretary of State.

But during the p**********l campaign, evidence emerged that both Clinton and the foundation had failed to live up to those promises. Clinton and her top officials continued to have a cozy relationship with the foundation throughout her tenure at State, and evidence strongly suggest that Clinton was granting access and favors to major Clinton Foundation donors.

In addition, the Clinton Foundation accepted millions of donations from foreign governments while Hillary was at State, including one that violated an ethics agreement it had with the Obama administration.


In total, the Hillary Campaign raised $795 million, nearly twice what Trump had raised. Trump invested $88 million of his own money and he sold his entire stock portfolio for $40 million. In total Trump raised $400 million.

In her book, "What Happened", Hillary suggests that Donald Trump got $5 billion in free media coverage. She never mentions that 96% of it was negative.

Cohen paid Daniels from his law firm's account. Not a CFL violation. Those who have been paying attention to the details already know the entire sordid affair surrounding Daniels attempts to vilify president Trump. She secured the services of the sleaze shyster Avenatti who filed two lawsuits in LA district court for defamation of character (this is no joke). For breach of a legal contract (the none disclosure agreement with Trump), the federal judge threw out her suits and ordered her to pay Trump's legal fees, a total of $294,000--over twice what she was paid to keep her mouth shut.

I heard an attorney who is quite familiar with the CFL explain it this way. A candidate buys a new suit, a new pair of shoes, and gets manicure, a shave and a haircut, and he rents a limo. He does this to improve his image, to help his campaign. He pays for the clothing and services out of his own pocket. This expenditure is not a violation of CFL. Even if he paid with his wife's credit card or a friend loaned him the money, it is not a violation of CFL.

Compiled from these sources:
NYT
WaPo
New Yorker
FEC.gov
NCSL.org
Business Insider
Open Secrets
The Hill
Time.com
Campaign Finance Institute
Dayton Daily News
Maplight
The Federalist
Yeah, the l*****t media not only gave Hillary mill... (show quote)


It is more and more clear that this indictment for violating campaign finance rules is just a sham Mueller is perpetrating for the democratic party and the opposition forces working to remove Trump. They must have threatened Cohen greatly to get him to say he committed a crime which is not even a crime.

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Dec 12, 2018 09:45:58   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
⭐️⭐️ Good one!!! Where is Lyen CNN?? Rating falling by the thousands because everyone is s**k of their constant lies and attacks on Trump!!! Woohooo keep it up....😅😂🙄


Kevyn wrote:
Your i***t Pumpkinfuhrer just nominated a FOX news reporter to be his ambassador to the United Nations and you are whining about highly respected award winning institutions like the New York Times? Give it a break, Trump is and has been a crook, liar and con man. Reporting his criminality, and pointing out his lies is exactly what legitimate news organizations should be doing. Whitewashing, and coverups by outfits like FOX or Brietbart are the stain on journalism and according to your warped logic should be subject to campaign finance laws.
Your i***t Pumpkinfuhrer just nominated a FOX news... (show quote)

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Dec 12, 2018 12:25:24   #
waltmoreno
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
It's been said by many that any money spent to help a campaign is a campaign donation and must, by law, be reported.

Well, we and the owners of CNN, MSNBC, the NYT and WaPo know, all too wwell, that their "journalists" are working to subvert the Trump administration and were, before the e******n, working to subvert his campaign. They were, in fact, campaigning against Trump and FOR Hillary Clinton. The owners of these stations knew this to be the fact of what their "journalists" were doing and openly paid their salaries.

I'd like to know why their salary payments to these "journalists" are not, in fact then, campaign contributions?????? They certainly knew the bias of their "journalists" and knew for a fact that they were working to help candidates, especially Hillary Clinton.

These payments made by Cohen and the National Enquirer, especially the later, seem to me to be pretty much the same as paying those salaries of the guys trying to help Clinton through their reporting. And, I seriously doubt they were reported as such by the Clinton campaign and others.
It's been said by many that any money spent to hel... (show quote)


If money spent on something would have been spent regardless of the campaign, it isn't a campaign contribution.
That comes directly from the E******n Commission. . FECA (52 U.S.C. 30114 (b)(2)) specifically says that campaign-related expenses do not include any expenditures “used to fulfill any commitment, obligation, or expense of a person that would exist irrespective of the candidate’s e******n campaign.”
These payments were relatively small given Trump’s net worth—the kind of nuisance settlement that celebrities often make to protect their reputations, especially when faced with claims that will cost far more to defend than making a quick payoff without all of the bad publicity that usually accompanies such cases. Given Trump’s celebrity status, the potential liability to these women existed “irrespective of the candidate’s e******n campaign.”
As Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, has said, the payment to Daniels was made “to resolve a personal and false allegation in order to protect the president’s family” and “it would have been done in any event, whether he was a candidate or not.”
Cohen pled guilty to an offense that wouldn't have stood up in any court to curry favor with Mueller who will now throw him under the bus. The fact that the Southern District of NY federal prosecutor says it's a crime carries no weight whatsoever. They h**e Trump. They threw the language about making illegal campaign contributions in gratis because they knew that Cohen wouldn't fight it.

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Dec 12, 2018 13:13:09   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Watching what will unfold involving the dems should they go forward will be very interesting.. When all comes out the AG wil be compelled to arrest others and the left is worried about that as well..They won’t have Mueller to cov er for them then... At this point I say bring it!!! Lets get some resolution to this garbage!!! .S**k of it.


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waltmoreno wrote:
If money spent on something would have been spent regardless of the campaign, it isn't a campaign contribution.
That comes directly from the E******n Commission. . FECA (52 U.S.C. 30114 (b)(2)) specifically says that campaign-related expenses do not include any expenditures “used to fulfill any commitment, obligation, or expense of a person that would exist irrespective of the candidate’s e******n campaign.”
These payments were relatively small given Trump’s net worth—the kind of nuisance settlement that celebrities often make to protect their reputations, especially when faced with claims that will cost far more to defend than making a quick payoff without all of the bad publicity that usually accompanies such cases. Given Trump’s celebrity status, the potential liability to these women existed “irrespective of the candidate’s e******n campaign.”
As Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, has said, the payment to Daniels was made “to resolve a personal and false allegation in order to protect the president’s family” and “it would have been done in any event, whether he was a candidate or not.”
Cohen pled guilty to an offense that wouldn't have stood up in any court to curry favor with Mueller who will now throw him under the bus. The fact that the Southern District of NY federal prosecutor says it's a crime carries no weight whatsoever. They h**e Trump. They threw the language about making illegal campaign contributions in gratis because they knew that Cohen wouldn't fight it.
If money spent on something would have been spent ... (show quote)

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Dec 12, 2018 16:26:05   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
waltmoreno wrote:
If money spent on something would have been spent regardless of the campaign, it isn't a campaign contribution.
That comes directly from the E******n Commission. . FECA (52 U.S.C. 30114 (b)(2)) specifically says that campaign-related expenses do not include any expenditures “used to fulfill any commitment, obligation, or expense of a person that would exist irrespective of the candidate’s e******n campaign.”
These payments were relatively small given Trump’s net worth—the kind of nuisance settlement that celebrities often make to protect their reputations, especially when faced with claims that will cost far more to defend than making a quick payoff without all of the bad publicity that usually accompanies such cases. Given Trump’s celebrity status, the potential liability to these women existed “irrespective of the candidate’s e******n campaign.”
As Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, has said, the payment to Daniels was made “to resolve a personal and false allegation in order to protect the president’s family” and “it would have been done in any event, whether he was a candidate or not.”
Cohen pled guilty to an offense that wouldn't have stood up in any court to curry favor with Mueller who will now throw him under the bus. The fact that the Southern District of NY federal prosecutor says it's a crime carries no weight whatsoever. They h**e Trump. They threw the language about making illegal campaign contributions in gratis because they knew that Cohen wouldn't fight it.
If money spent on something would have been spent ... (show quote)


Can Cohen appeal? I'd sure like to see what they found on him to get him to say the payment was to save the e******n.

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Dec 12, 2018 16:26:34   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
lindajoy wrote:
Watching what will unfold involving the dems should they go forward will be very interesting.. When all comes out the AG wil be compelled to arrest others and the left is worried about that as well..They won’t have Mueller to cov er for them then... At this point I say bring it!!! Lets get some resolution to this garbage!!! .S**k of it.


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Same here.

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Dec 12, 2018 19:09:16   #
waltmoreno
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Can Cohen appeal? I'd sure like to see what they found on him to get him to say the payment was to save the e******n.


Appeal? That's the last thing on his mind right now! In fact for the next 3 months before he turns himself in to start serving his time, he's scheduled to be making more official statements. He's even got his own official spokesman. I wonder how many inmates heading to San Quentin have their own official spokesman.
So for the next 3 months be prepared to hear Cohen elaborate on how "blind loyalty" to Trump caused him to sink to unimaginable lows in carrying out Trump's orders. All to try to curry favor with Mueller so he'll say a nice word and hopefully get a lower sentence.
Cohen is a POS and has no spine. His backbone is made of jello.
I hope he gets his just desserts in prison with Bubba.
And I hope that Corsi takes Mueller down. Mueller's squeezing people around Trump to compose fairy tales about Trump. That's way beyond what an ethical prosecutor is supposed to do. Mueller is conflicted up the wazoo, and is abusing the power of the government to take down a lawfully elected president.

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Dec 12, 2018 19:40:19   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Appeal? That's the last thing on his mind right now! In fact for the next 3 months before he turns himself in to start serving his time, he's scheduled to be making more official statements. He's even got his own official spokesman. I wonder how many inmates heading to San Quentin have their own official spokesman.
So for the next 3 months be prepared to hear Cohen elaborate on how "blind loyalty" to Trump caused him to sink to unimaginable lows in carrying out Trump's orders. All to try to curry favor with Mueller so he'll say a nice word and hopefully get a lower sentence.
Cohen is a POS and has no spine. His backbone is made of jello.
I hope he gets his just desserts in prison with Bubba.
And I hope that Corsi takes Mueller down. Mueller's squeezing people around Trump to compose fairy tales about Trump. That's way beyond what an ethical prosecutor is supposed to do. Mueller is conflicted up the wazoo, and is abusing the power of the government to take down a lawfully elected president.
Appeal? That's the last thing on his mind right no... (show quote)


Maybe Putin will take him in.

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