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Crux of the Matter: to get the Trump World Tower of Moscow built, what would be the world's tallest building, sanctions had to be lifted
Dec 10, 2018 15:05:57   #
rumitoid
 
...and secret deals with Russians made.

Can you honestly tell me that Mr. Hyperbole would not rabidly pursue, at all costs and with his full grifter mentality, a deal to build the world's tallest building? And in Russia that he has said, "It's ridiculous that I wouldn't be investing in Russia. Russia is one of the hottest places in the world for investment." Below is the Russians, Russians everywhere story. If you refuse to believe any or all of what I stated, you have google search: use it to disprove these points. If you do not know how to use it, ask any kid over seven. I found more than 30 different sources supporting what I said; I am sure you can do better. Or just insult as usual. Up to you.

--From 2000 to 2008, Trump dealt with the very shady Bayford Company run by Felix Sater, who has verified through emails that Michael Cohen was telling the t***h about the Russia deal going forward until 6/2016. In one of those emails, Sater says, “I will get Putin on this program, and we will get Donald elected.”

--Back in 2007, in a disposition about his involvement with Felix Sater's Bayrock Company on Russian deals, Trump said, "It's ridiculous that I wouldn't be investing in Russia. Russia is one of the hottest places in the world for investment."

--In November of 2016, Trump’s then-communications director, Hope Hicks, issued a public statement. “There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign,” she said, according to CNN. President Trump, and his p**********l campaign, have issued at least 20 denials of campaign officials' communications with and connections with Russian officials.

As early as July of 2016, Trump himself commented on his campaign’s Russia contacts. “I can tell you I think if I came up with that they’d say, ‘Oh, it’s a conspiracy theory, it’s ridiculous.’… I mean I have nothing to do with Russia. I don’t have any jobs in Russia. I’m all over the world but we’re not involved in Russia,” he said, according to a BBC timeline.

14 individuals involved with the Trump campaign were found to have contacted Russians—and all of them lied about those contacts. Some of the 14 below. “The mounting number of communications that have been revealed occurred against the backdrop of ‘sustained efforts by the Russian government to interfere with the U.S. p**********l e******n,’ as Mueller’s prosecutors wrote in a court filing last week,” the Washington Post reported.

--Paul Manafort was the RNC convention manager. The GOP platform on being tough with Russia was changed and softened against strong objections from Conservatives; the records of that meeting have mysteriously disappeared. As we know now, Manafort, for a time Trump's campaign manager, had many illegal dealings with Russia. He lied about those dealings.

--Michael Flynn, of all things Trump's National Security Adviser (that Obama warned him not to hire), had extensive communications with Russia. He lied about those dealings.

--Jess Sessions lied about his contacts with Russians to Congress.

--Kellyanne Conway, the president's spokesperson, denied any contact with Russia by the Trump campaign, when there had already been seven such contacts.

--Vice President-elect Mike Pence offered his own blanket denial shortly before his own inauguration, when the contacts were at over twenty.

--Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos (“the coffee boy”) attempted to set up a meeting with Mr. Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, and he spoke to an overseas professor about Russian "dirt" on Hillary Clinton, in the form of thousands of emails. He lied about those contacts.

--2015 Neveda Freedom Festival: Maria Butina asked Trump, “What would be your foreign policy, especially with my country?” Trump answered, “I believe I would get along very nicely with Putin,’ Trump responded. ‘I mean, where we have the strength. I don’t think you’d need the sanctions, I think we would get along very, very well.”

Butina was charged with conspiracy and acting as an undeclared foreign agent. IMPORTANT: It is alleged she did this on behalf of Alexander Torshin - the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank, a Finance Institution, who is also believed to be her handler.

--Russia knows Trump is lying to the American public prior to the his se******n as nominee, something that may derail his bid. But they back his lies. This information is what is known in the spy-game as “Leverage,” which goes a long way in explaining the Putin-Trump bromance. They have at least this something on Trump.

--Three top aides to Trump--Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner--sat down in Trump Tower with a passel of Russians, including an attorney carrying a document from the Russian Prosecutor General. We know from Trump Jr.'s emails, they were these to get “dirt” on Hillary. He knew the whole deal was part of a Russian government effort to interfere in the United States p**********l e******n on his father's behalf. All lied about the object of this meeting, and it appears Trump Sr. told his son to say it was about Russian orphans.

IMPORTANT: One of those Russians at that meeting was—wait for it! Ike Kaveladze, an American-based employee of a Russian REAL ESTATE company owned by Aras Agalarov, a Kremlin-linked oligarch who partnered with the Trumps to bring the Miss Universe pageant to Moscow. Why a highly placed real estate employed by Russian Agalarov, who had partnered with Trump? Only one answer: Trump World Tower of Moscow.

--A week after Trump, Jr. abandoned his excuse that the meeting was just about Russian adoption policy, Spicer told the assembled White House press corps that...the meeting was about adoption.

--Trump, Sessions, Manafort and others met with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at the Republican National Convention last year. Michael Flynn and Jared Kushner met with Kislyak and Russian banker Sergey Gorkov at Trump Tower in December 2016. Flynn called Kislyak on December 29 and told him not to worry about sanctions against Russia that had just been imposed by the Obama administration because they would take care of them after the inauguration.

--Former Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone privately sought information he considered damaging to Hillary Clinton from WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange during the 2016 p**********l campaign, according to emails reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. “Please ask Assange for any State or HRC e-mail from August 10 to August 30--particularly on August 20, 2011,” Mr. Stone wrote to Randy Credico.”

Conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi indicated he had advanced knowledge about the release of hacked emails by WikiLeaks ahead of the 2016 e******n, according to documents obtained by CBS News.

"Word is friend in embassy plans 2 more dumps," Corsi wrote in an email to Roger Stone, President Trump's sometime political adviser, on Aug. 2, 2016. "One shortly after I'm back. 2nd in Oct. Impact planned to be very damaging." Then were a series of late-night calls with Trump, where I guess they want us to believe they only talked about the weather and the upcoming football season. The "friend in embassy" is WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who has spent years camped out in the Ecuadorean Embassy in London to avoid extradition.

--After repeatedly lying in various public venues, duly recorded, for over a year, now caught in the many lies the president claims it was “very legal & very cool.” That is pathological.

Please tell me that you find this vast tangled web of dealings and deceptions by Trump and his campaign at the very least highly suspicious. Below are a few helpful sites.
This is a good one for summary: https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a56394/trump-russia-meeting-lies/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-07/manafort-lied-about-contacts-with-administration-mueller-says-jpemv9dm

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/30/george-papadopoulos-donald-trump-russia-charge-putin

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/us/politics/michael-flynn-guilty-russia-investigation.html

https://thinkprogress.org/sessions-lied-to-congress-about-his-contacts-with-russia-during-the-trump-campaign-733180c7b910/

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/09/how-donald-trump-lied-to-conceal-his-moscow-business-partner/

https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/14/politics/donald-trump-jr-meeting/index.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/02/trump-teams-many-many-denials-contacts-russia/98625780/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/02/trump-teams-many-many-denials-contacts-russia/98625780/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/mueller-has-emails-stone-pal-corsi-about-wikileaks-dem-email-n940611

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-says-business-dealings-during-campaign-were-very-legal-very-n942056

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/03/jared-kushner-has-been-concealing-the-flynn-kislyak-meeting-for-months.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5973449/Moment-sexy-Russian-spy-quizzed-Trump-views-sanctions-against-country-Nevada-event.html

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Dec 10, 2018 18:47:58   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
...and secret deals with Russians made.

Can you honestly tell me that Mr. Hyperbole would not rabidly pursue, at all costs and with his full grifter mentality, a deal to build the world's tallest building? And in Russia that he has said, "It's ridiculous that I wouldn't be investing in Russia. Russia is one of the hottest places in the world for investment." Below is the Russians, Russians everywhere story. If you refuse to believe any or all of what I stated, you have google search: use it to disprove these points. If you do not know how to use it, ask any kid over seven. I found more than 30 different sources supporting what I said; I am sure you can do better. Or just insult as usual. Up to you.

--From 2000 to 2008, Trump dealt with the very shady Bayford Company run by Felix Sater, who has verified through emails that Michael Cohen was telling the t***h about the Russia deal going forward until 6/2016. In one of those emails, Sater says, “I will get Putin on this program, and we will get Donald elected.”

--Back in 2007, in a disposition about his involvement with Felix Sater's Bayrock Company on Russian deals, Trump said, "It's ridiculous that I wouldn't be investing in Russia. Russia is one of the hottest places in the world for investment."

--In November of 2016, Trump’s then-communications director, Hope Hicks, issued a public statement. “There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign,” she said, according to CNN. President Trump, and his p**********l campaign, have issued at least 20 denials of campaign officials' communications with and connections with Russian officials.

As early as July of 2016, Trump himself commented on his campaign’s Russia contacts. “I can tell you I think if I came up with that they’d say, ‘Oh, it’s a conspiracy theory, it’s ridiculous.’… I mean I have nothing to do with Russia. I don’t have any jobs in Russia. I’m all over the world but we’re not involved in Russia,” he said, according to a BBC timeline.

14 individuals involved with the Trump campaign were found to have contacted Russians—and all of them lied about those contacts. Some of the 14 below. “The mounting number of communications that have been revealed occurred against the backdrop of ‘sustained efforts by the Russian government to interfere with the U.S. p**********l e******n,’ as Mueller’s prosecutors wrote in a court filing last week,” the Washington Post reported.

--Paul Manafort was the RNC convention manager. The GOP platform on being tough with Russia was changed and softened against strong objections from Conservatives; the records of that meeting have mysteriously disappeared. As we know now, Manafort, for a time Trump's campaign manager, had many illegal dealings with Russia. He lied about those dealings.

--Michael Flynn, of all things Trump's National Security Adviser (that Obama warned him not to hire), had extensive communications with Russia. He lied about those dealings.

--Jess Sessions lied about his contacts with Russians to Congress.

--Kellyanne Conway, the president's spokesperson, denied any contact with Russia by the Trump campaign, when there had already been seven such contacts.

--Vice President-elect Mike Pence offered his own blanket denial shortly before his own inauguration, when the contacts were at over twenty.

--Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos (“the coffee boy”) attempted to set up a meeting with Mr. Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, and he spoke to an overseas professor about Russian "dirt" on Hillary Clinton, in the form of thousands of emails. He lied about those contacts.

--2015 Neveda Freedom Festival: Maria Butina asked Trump, “What would be your foreign policy, especially with my country?” Trump answered, “I believe I would get along very nicely with Putin,’ Trump responded. ‘I mean, where we have the strength. I don’t think you’d need the sanctions, I think we would get along very, very well.”

Butina was charged with conspiracy and acting as an undeclared foreign agent. IMPORTANT: It is alleged she did this on behalf of Alexander Torshin - the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank, a Finance Institution, who is also believed to be her handler.

--Russia knows Trump is lying to the American public prior to the his se******n as nominee, something that may derail his bid. But they back his lies. This information is what is known in the spy-game as “Leverage,” which goes a long way in explaining the Putin-Trump bromance. They have at least this something on Trump.

--Three top aides to Trump--Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner--sat down in Trump Tower with a passel of Russians, including an attorney carrying a document from the Russian Prosecutor General. We know from Trump Jr.'s emails, they were these to get “dirt” on Hillary. He knew the whole deal was part of a Russian government effort to interfere in the United States p**********l e******n on his father's behalf. All lied about the object of this meeting, and it appears Trump Sr. told his son to say it was about Russian orphans.

IMPORTANT: One of those Russians at that meeting was—wait for it! Ike Kaveladze, an American-based employee of a Russian REAL ESTATE company owned by Aras Agalarov, a Kremlin-linked oligarch who partnered with the Trumps to bring the Miss Universe pageant to Moscow. Why a highly placed real estate employed by Russian Agalarov, who had partnered with Trump? Only one answer: Trump World Tower of Moscow.

--A week after Trump, Jr. abandoned his excuse that the meeting was just about Russian adoption policy, Spicer told the assembled White House press corps that...the meeting was about adoption.

--Trump, Sessions, Manafort and others met with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at the Republican National Convention last year. Michael Flynn and Jared Kushner met with Kislyak and Russian banker Sergey Gorkov at Trump Tower in December 2016. Flynn called Kislyak on December 29 and told him not to worry about sanctions against Russia that had just been imposed by the Obama administration because they would take care of them after the inauguration.

--Former Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone privately sought information he considered damaging to Hillary Clinton from WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange during the 2016 p**********l campaign, according to emails reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. “Please ask Assange for any State or HRC e-mail from August 10 to August 30--particularly on August 20, 2011,” Mr. Stone wrote to Randy Credico.”

Conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi indicated he had advanced knowledge about the release of hacked emails by WikiLeaks ahead of the 2016 e******n, according to documents obtained by CBS News.

"Word is friend in embassy plans 2 more dumps," Corsi wrote in an email to Roger Stone, President Trump's sometime political adviser, on Aug. 2, 2016. "One shortly after I'm back. 2nd in Oct. Impact planned to be very damaging." Then were a series of late-night calls with Trump, where I guess they want us to believe they only talked about the weather and the upcoming football season. The "friend in embassy" is WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who has spent years camped out in the Ecuadorean Embassy in London to avoid extradition.

--After repeatedly lying in various public venues, duly recorded, for over a year, now caught in the many lies the president claims it was “very legal & very cool.” That is pathological.

Please tell me that you find this vast tangled web of dealings and deceptions by Trump and his campaign at the very least highly suspicious. Below are a few helpful sites.
This is a good one for summary: https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a56394/trump-russia-meeting-lies/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-07/manafort-lied-about-contacts-with-administration-mueller-says-jpemv9dm

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/30/george-papadopoulos-donald-trump-russia-charge-putin

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/us/politics/michael-flynn-guilty-russia-investigation.html

https://thinkprogress.org/sessions-lied-to-congress-about-his-contacts-with-russia-during-the-trump-campaign-733180c7b910/

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/09/how-donald-trump-lied-to-conceal-his-moscow-business-partner/

https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/14/politics/donald-trump-jr-meeting/index.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/02/trump-teams-many-many-denials-contacts-russia/98625780/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/02/trump-teams-many-many-denials-contacts-russia/98625780/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/mueller-has-emails-stone-pal-corsi-about-wikileaks-dem-email-n940611

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-says-business-dealings-during-campaign-were-very-legal-very-n942056

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/03/jared-kushner-has-been-concealing-the-flynn-kislyak-meeting-for-months.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5973449/Moment-sexy-Russian-spy-quizzed-Trump-views-sanctions-against-country-Nevada-event.html
...and secret deals with Russians made. br br Can... (show quote)



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Dec 10, 2018 19:01:03   #
rumitoid
 
The one on the right is Donald, the other can be at least 14 other people associated with the WH.

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Dec 10, 2018 21:09:47   #
timofrock
 
That would be you and your imaginary friend.

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Dec 10, 2018 22:07:18   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
The one on the right is Donald, the other can be at least 14 other people associated with the WH.


When it looked like Trump would win a liberal friend mentioned the left would try to use his businesses to oust him.

They WON'T. We'll see to it. We won't have our v**e stolen by the political elite and the fools who buy into their sht.

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Dec 10, 2018 22:16:09   #
rumitoid
 
BigMike wrote:
When it looked like Trump would win a liberal friend mentioned the left would try to use his businesses to oust him.

They WON'T. We'll see to it. We won't have our v**e stolen by the political elite and the fools who buy into their sht.


What on earth does your first sentence mean? Who cares, you are not addressing the topic.

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Dec 10, 2018 22:19:23   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
What on earth does your first sentence mean? Who cares, you are not addressing the topic.


I did. You just don't get the connection.

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Dec 10, 2018 22:23:33   #
rumitoid
 
BigMike wrote:
I did. You just don't get the connection.


Fine.

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Dec 11, 2018 12:03:57   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
Fine.


I could explain but past attempts have proven fruitless.

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Dec 11, 2018 13:43:25   #
woodguru
 
BigMike wrote:
I did. You just don't get the connection.


Because the right believes rhetorical vague connections?

BM...did you read the list of facts posted? They aren't dished out like on FOX with a lot of hand waving and rhetoric, the facts come from somewhere that can be supported.

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Dec 11, 2018 16:16:04   #
rumitoid
 
BigMike wrote:
I could explain but past attempts have proven fruitless.


Fine.

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