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Dec 8, 2018 20:28:42   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Rose42 wrote:
John Paul II's opinion is irrelevant to Christians. After all, he blasphemed the Holy Spirit and attacked God and Christ by elevating Mary to a status she was never given.




Right, let's use the demon filled pope that claims he is god on earth to prove the Catholic teaching... Wow.

What about the mouth of pope Francis that is freaking Catholics out, even Catholics are calling him a false Prophet.
Pope Francis is sending Catholics (rational thinking ones) out of the Catholic church and into the truth and light of salvation through Jesus. He is revealing the flaws of the church single handed.

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Dec 12, 2018 23:34:42   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
Jack Ive never seen so much hog-wallop compost non-sequitur, straw-man, red-herring, ad hominem fallacy idioms presented, to divert from the article post

"What We Learn From the Gratitude of Our Lady."

Stop blowing smoke out your bovine butt.

doc110

jack sequim wa wrote:


Right, let's use the demon filled pope that claims he is god on earth to prove the Catholic teaching... Wow.

What about the mouth of pope Francis that is freaking Catholics out, even Catholics are calling him a false Prophet.

Pope Francis is sending Catholics (rational thinking ones) out of the Catholic church and into the truth and light of salvation through Jesus.

He is revealing the flaws of the church single handed.

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Dec 13, 2018 03:12:59   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Doc110 wrote:
Jack Ive never seen so much hog-wallop compost non-sequitur, straw-man, red-herring, ad hominem fallacy idioms presented, to divert from the article post

"What We Learn From the Gratitude of Our Lady."

Stop blowing smoke out your bovine butt.

doc110




Your a first, the most (personal) insulting, rude, foul mouthed anti-christ in these arenas todate.

Mountains of empirical evidence of consistent centuries of murder, rape, torture, sacrifices, pagan and satanic rituals, black masses, including the current popes anti-christ statements and actions. All documented including the current world court charging Francis along with Bishops, Cardinals and nuns for the mass graces of over 350, 000 children buried on Catholic church property in three countries.

Your either the lowest IQ person ever, angry your not invited to the Vatican for black masses and sacrifices or willing to give up your soul rather than leave your life long church relationship.

We will continue to pray for you in spite of your nasty self.

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Dec 13, 2018 03:49:10   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
Jack,

That's all you do, so expect the same courtesy in return . . .

You haven't proven anything . . .

Show it to me biblically and scripturally, hearsay and innuendos, they don't win arguments Jack.

Facts win Arguments. End of discussion, finally you 5 horse-men and Horse-women of the Protestant Apocalypse are loosing the argument and your fallacies on the Catholic Church

Show you mountains of evidence and facts jack, just don't produce hog-wallop compost opinions.

Keep blowing smoke, and mirrors again, Jack.

It's called a non-sequitur fallacy and you're one of the worst offender.

All you do is produce scant evidence, which you cant prove biblically or factually.

Just because you say something, it doesn't necessarily mean it's true.

But in you're case it is Fundamentally Protestant false 100% percent of the time.

The laughable question begs to be answered by you 5 horse-men and Horse-women of the Protestant Apocalypse.

Are you a simpleton or just ignorant or both

Try refuting this Article that I posted and the Biblical scriptural verses that show the Primacy of the Pope in the Catholic Church.


Here are several articles on how you Fundamentalist Protestants think and what you believe, a dead man-made religion, the 5 horse-men and Horse-women of the Protestant Apocalypse.

1. Why do Fundamentalist Protestants Call . . . Catholicism Pagan ?

2. How to Understand . . . Protestant Fundamentalism ? . . . Does This Describe You ?

3. Fundamentalist or Catholic ? . . . Know the Facts of your Faith . . . In Jesus Christ Teachings and Instructions

4. How to Talk Holy Scripture with Fundamentalists Protestants ?

More to come to exposing your Fundamentalist Protestants ignorance of the Bible and dead religion.


Doc110


jack sequim wa wrote:
Your a first, the most (personal) insulting, rude, foul mouthed anti-christ in these arenas todate.

Mountains of empirical evidence of consistent centuries of murder, rape, torture, sacrifices, pagan and satanic rituals, black masses, including the current popes anti-christ statements and actions. All documented including the current world court charging Francis along with Bishops, Cardinals and nuns for the mass graces of over 350, 000 children buried on Catholic church property in three countries.

Your either the lowest IQ person ever, angry your not invited to the Vatican for black masses and sacrifices or willing to give up your soul rather than leave your life long church relationship.

We will continue to pray for you in spite of your nasty self.
Your a first, the most (personal) insulting, rude,... (show quote)

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Dec 13, 2018 10:16:17   #
Rose42
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Right, let's use the demon filled pope that claims he is god on earth to prove the Catholic teaching... Wow.

What about the mouth of pope Francis that is freaking Catholics out, even Catholics are calling him a false Prophet.
Pope Francis is sending Catholics (rational thinking ones) out of the Catholic church and into the truth and light of salvation through Jesus. He is revealing the flaws of the church single handed.


Pope Francis looks to be acting more and more conciliatory to non-Catholics to beef up their numbers. Is he the pope that said Muslims and Catholics worshiped the same God?

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Dec 13, 2018 10:17:46   #
bahmer
 
Rose42 wrote:
Pope Francis looks to be acting more and more conciliatory to non-Catholics to beef up their numbers. Is he the pope that said Muslims and Catholics worshiped the same God?


I believe that I read that a while back in a conservative political web site.

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Dec 13, 2018 15:42:49   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
Conjecture with no factual proof, here-say compost

“My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord; my spirit rejoices in God my savior”
(Luke 1: 46-47).

One who practices grateful living is not glum and does not hang his head and wear a frown every day. Instead, a grateful person is:

Cheerful;
Kind;
Generous;
Helpful;
Welcoming;
Friendly;
Responsive to others’ needs.


These, and far more, exemplify the life of gratitude that Our Blessed Mother emanated with every fiber of her being. '

Despite how we feel, do we greet people with a smile and friendly wave or hello? If so, we are practicing the same gratitude of Our Lady.



bahmer wrote:


I believe that I read that a while back in a conservative political web site.

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Dec 13, 2018 15:47:50   #
bahmer
 
Doc110 wrote:
Conjecture with no factual proof, here-say compost

“My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord; my spirit rejoices in God my savior”
(Luke 1: 46-47).

One who practices grateful living is not glum and does not hang his head and wear a frown every day. Instead, a grateful person is:

Cheerful;
Kind;
Generous;
Helpful;
Welcoming;
Friendly;
Responsive to others’ needs.


These, and far more, exemplify the life of gratitude that Our Blessed Mother emanated with every fiber of her being. '

Despite how we feel, do we greet people with a smile and friendly wave or hello? If so, we are practicing the same gratitude of Our Lady.
Conjecture with no factual proof, here-say compost... (show quote)


Sort of like you and Radiance3/Venus3 and padremike here on OPP I suppose. There are you happy now?

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Dec 13, 2018 15:55:43   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
Balmer,


Spell check, your breaking up on coherent statement or were you mumbling again in the brain . . .

bahmer wrote:


Sort of kike you and Radiance3/Venus3 and padremike here on OPP I suppose.

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Dec 13, 2018 18:38:34   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Doc110 wrote:
Jack,

That's all you do, so expect the same courtesy in return . . .

You haven't proven anything . . .

Show it to me biblically and scripturally, hearsay and innuendos, they don't win arguments Jack.

Facts win Arguments. End of discussion, finally you 5 horse-men and Horse-women of the Protestant Apocalypse are loosing the argument and your fallacies on the Catholic Church

Show you mountains of evidence and facts jack, just don't produce hog-wallop compost opinions.

Keep blowing smoke, and mirrors again, Jack.

It's called a non-sequitur fallacy and you're one of the worst offender.

All you do is produce scant evidence, which you cant prove biblically or factually.

Just because you say something, it doesn't necessarily mean it's true.

But in you're case it is Fundamentally Protestant false 100% percent of the time.

The laughable question begs to be answered by you 5 horse-men and Horse-women of the Protestant Apocalypse.

Are you a simpleton or just ignorant or both

Try refuting this Article that I posted and the Biblical scriptural verses that show the Primacy of the Pope in the Catholic Church.


Here are several articles on how you Fundamentalist Protestants think and what you believe, a dead man-made religion, the 5 horse-men and Horse-women of the Protestant Apocalypse.

1. Why do Fundamentalist Protestants Call . . . Catholicism Pagan ?

2. How to Understand . . . Protestant Fundamentalism ? . . . Does This Describe You ?

3. Fundamentalist or Catholic ? . . . Know the Facts of your Faith . . . In Jesus Christ Teachings and Instructions

4. How to Talk Holy Scripture with Fundamentalists Protestants ?

More to come to exposing your Fundamentalist Protestants ignorance of the Bible and dead religion.


Doc110
Jack, br br That's all you do, so expect the same... (show quote)




The greatest evil and deception since the ascension of our Lord and Saviour Jesus the Christ has been the Roman Catholic church.
http://www.understandthetimes.org/commentary/c97.shtml

Partial article, use above link for full text.

 

 

According to Bible prophecy, a one-world religion that will offer the promise of peace throughout the world is going to commence prior to Christ’s return. To most, this global body will seem like a wonderful thing and very possibly will be a pseudo-Christianity (coming in the name of “Christ”); however, contrary to how the masses will view it, it will actually help establish and set up the antichrist and his one- world government.

In order for this to happen, all religions must come together in an ecumenical plan. Today, as part of this Satanic scheme, the evangelical/Protestant church is being drawn seductively into the Roman Catholic church, largely through what we call “The Jesuit Agenda.” Incredibly, while the evidence is obvious to some, the majority of proclaiming Christians are not at all aware it is happening.

So, what should we expect if we are in the time when such a system unfolds? First, many who once were Protestant and evangelical will become ecumenical and eventually assimilate with the Roman Catholic church. Second, all religions will unite in solidarity of purpose. Understanding the Jesuit Agenda is essential if we are to understand how this worldwide deception will come about.

Who are the Jesuits?

Since its foundation, the Catholic papacy has been zealous and often brutal in its endeavor to establish the kingdom of the Pope (of whom it is believed within the Catholic church is headed by Jesus Christ). In fact, the Pope has been referred to as the “Vicar of Christ.” This determination was witnessed during the Inquisition where countless thousands, if not millions, died cruelly for resisting Rome. Foxe’s Book of Martyrsdescribes many of these atrocities.

While many believers in Christ during the Reformation period attempted to spread the truth that God’s Word was truly God’s Word and could not be squandered and kept hostage by the papacy and the Catholic Church, it was not long before the Counter Reformation was founded to bring the “Separated Brethren” back to the “Mother of All Churches.”

This Counter Reformation was largely headed by Ignatius Loyola, the man who founded the Jesuit Order in the mid 1500s and launched an all-out attack against those who dared stand against the papacy and Rome. This excerpt from Foxe’s Book of Martyrs gives us an idea of the nature and determination of this Counter Reformation:

The emperor Ferdinand, whose hatred of the Bohemian Protestants was without bounds, not thinking he had sufficiently oppressed them, instituted a high court to prosecute the reformers upon the plan of the Inquisition, with this difference, that the court was to travel from place to place and always to be attended by a body of troops. This court was conducted chiefly by Jesuits and from their decision there was no appeal, by which it may be easily conjectured that it was a dreadful tribunal indeed.


This bloody court, attended by a body of troops, made the tour of Bohemia. They seldom examined or saw a prisoner, for the soldiers were permitted to murder the Protestants as they pleased and then to make a report of the matter to them afterward.(1)

You see, the Jesuits were commissioned by the Pope to do whatever it took to end the Protestant Reformation. The 1540 Constitution of the Jesuits states:

[L]et whoever desires to fight under the sacred banner of the Cross, and to serve only God and the Roman pontiff, His vicar on earth, after a solemn vow of perpetual chastity,- let him keep in mind that he is part of a society, instituted for the purpose of perfecting souls in life and in Christian doctrine, for the propagation of the faith . . . Let all members know, and let it be not only at the beginning of their profession, but let them think over it daily as long as they live, that the society as a whole, and each of them, owes obedience to our most holy lord, the pope, and the other Roman pontiffs, his successors, and to fight with faithful obedience for God. (Emphasis added.)

 While most Christians think that the Counter Reformation is a thing of the past because we are not seeing Inquisitions today, this movement continues until today and with renewed effort through various avenues of the evangelical/Protestant church. In a way, it is more insidious than the Inquisitions, because now it has infiltrated Christianity and is being disguised as the “new” Christianity. (Rick Warren promotes it as the “new” or second reformation.) But disguised or not, it is the Jesuit Agenda, and it is bringing about ecumenism and a one-world religion. And at the same time, it is attempting to destroy the message that so many died for -  the message that Jesus Christ is not found in a wafer and a cup of juice to be re-crucified day after day but has died once and for all for the sins of man and offers a salvation that is an entirely free gift, unearned to those who believe on Him (Hebrews 7:27; 10:11-14).

Who Was Ignatius Loyola?

After a serious injury in the military and during a lengthy rehabilitation, Ignatius Loyola (b. 1491, d. 1556) turned his focus from “military enthusiasm to ghostly fanaticism.(2)  Ignatius assumed the name and office of Knight of the Virgin Mary, seeing himself as Mary’s favorite. Ignatius wanted to start a new order, The Society of Jesus (or the Jesuits) and presented the idea to the Pope. He told the Pope that the idea had been inspired by heavenly revelations. At first, the Pope hesitated, but when Ignatius added a fourth vow (in addition to the regular poverty, chastity, and obedience), “absolute subservience to the pope,” promising to do whatever the Pope wanted and go wherever he wanted, the Pope agreed and sent the new order out to “invade the world.” While other monks of other orders sought to separate themselves from the world, the Jesuits went out into the world and obeyed whatever command the Pope gave. Often this was to win the world with the sword. No violent act was withheld if the order came from their top “general.” (3)

In time, the Jesuits entered the education system, especially that of the Protestants. The Jesuit maxim was: “Give us the education of the children of this day – and the next generation will be ours.”(4) The Reverend W. C. Brownlee, D.D. stated: “They pretended to be converted and to enter into Protestant churches.” One Jesuit even boasted that the Jesuits were successfully able to imitate the Puritan preachers. They used trickery and deception to become “all things to all men.” Within 48 years, there were eleven thousand Jesuits around the world, quite a large number for back then. (5)

By 1773, the order was abolished because of their horrible reputation of bloodiness, deception, and immorality. However, they were reinstated fully in 1814 by Pope Pius VII. Even by this time, the influence and infiltration into the United States by the Jesuits was significant.

In 1857, the Reverend W.C. Brownlee, D.D. compiled a book of a translated document called Secret Instructions of the Jesuits (found on the Boston College Libraries website, for one). While Catholic sources say that the Secret Instructions of the Jesuits is an untrue document, there is enough evidence to indicate that it is true indeed. Naturally, it is so indicting against the papacy and the Jesuit Order that one can understand from a human point of view why Catholic sources would say the document isn’t true. But the facts are that the Jesuit Order was performing brutal cruel acts to bring the world to “Christ” and the Mother Church and that they were infiltrating every area of society to do so. This cannot be denied. Brownlee’s book would be a worthwhile read for those who wish to understand more of the history of the Jesuits.

The Jesuit Oath

It is said that the ancient Jesuits took the Jesuit Oath. This has been refuted by Catholic sources as a true oath taken by Jesuits of the past; nevertheless, there is evidence enough that the oath did exist to include excerpts of it in this report. We have taken these excerpts from a book titled Political and Economic Handbook by Thomas Edward Watson published in 1916, and found in the Harvard College library.

I do declare from my heart, without mental reservation, that the Pope is Christ’s Vicar General and . . .  He hath power to depose Heretical Kings, Princes, States  . . .  that they may safely be destroyed. Therefore, to the utmost of my power I will defend this doctrine. . . . I do further declare the doctrine of the Church of England, of the Calvanists [sic], the Huguenots, and other Protestants to be damnable and those to be damned who will not forsake the same.

I do further declare that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of His Holiness agents in any place wherever I shall be; and to do my utmost to extirpate [exterminate] the heretical Protestant doctrine, and to destroy all their pretended power. (p. 437)

In another version of the Jesuit Oath, the Jesuit is asked to promise that he will make “relentless war” against “all heretics, Protestants” and to “hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics” (found in U.S. House Congressional Record, 1913, p. 3216).

The Jesuit Agenda Today:

While we are not saying that Jesuits today are murdering Protestants if they don’t convert to Catholicism, we are saying that the determination and efforts to convert Protestants back to the Mother Church still exist. Basically, while the methods may have changed, the plan and objectives have not. The following quote from an article titled “Essay on Popery”by Rev. Ingram Cobbin M.A. (taken from one edition of Foxe’s Book of Martyrs) is insightful:

The Jesuits, though at times expelled or pretendedly so from Rome, have been its awful emissaries to augment its power.  The intrigues and deceptions of these men would fill volumes, and the conveniency of their creed to deny or affirm anything, or assume any profession as it may serve their purpose, is too well known to need recapitulating here.  These men have at times assumed so much that every papal state has alternately ejected them; and large numbers are now in this country—doubtless many under false colours —waiting the most favourable opportunities to corrupt the rising generation, and, as much as possible, restore the dark days of former ages.  The Jesuits are unchangeable. 

The Jesuits were driven in the past to bring back the lost brethren, and they are driven today with the same vision. Today, that vision is part of the pope’s Eucharistic Evangelization, drawing people to the Eucharistic Christ. The Eucharistic Evangelization is discussed at length in Another Jesus: The Evangelization of the Eucharistic Christ and in several articles on the Understand the Times website.

 Jesuit (Mystical) Spirituality and the Protestant/Evangelical Church

So if the methods of converting lost or prodigal souls back to Rome have changed, what is the method to accomplish these goals today? It is largely through what is called Jesuit Spirituality. A 2002 book titled Contemplatives in Action: The Jesuit Way reveals how the Jesuit order has had and continues to have a “great influence” in people around the world. It attributes this “vitality” to “its spirituality” which has also “evoked fierce loyalty and fierce opposition.”(6)

What is the spirituality of the Jesuits that was so controversial? By their very roots, Jesuits are proponents of mystical prayer practices. The founder of the Jesuits, Ignatius Loyola, created “spiritual exercises” that incorporated mysticism, including lectio divina. Today, millions of people worldwide practice the “Spiritual Exercises of Ignatius Loyola.” 

One Jesuit priest who resonates with the mystical spiritual outlook is Anthony De Mello(d. 1987), author of Sadhana: A Way to God. De Mello is often quoted today by contemplative and emerging authors and embraced the mysticism of Hinduism. He stated:

To silence the mind is an extremely difficult task. How hard it is to keep the mind from thinking, thinking, thinking, forever thinking, forever producing thoughts in a never ending stream. Our Hindu masters in India have a saying: one thorn is removed by another. By this they mean that you will be wise to use one thought to rid yourself of all the other thoughts that crowd into your mind. One thought, one image, one phrase or sentence or word that your mind can be made to fasten on. – Anthony de Mello, Sadhana: A Way to God (St. Louis, the Institute of Jesuit Resources, 1978), p. 28 (cited from A Time of Departing, by Ray Yungen, p. 75).

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Dec 13, 2018 19:13:04   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
I posted two new threads that if any "truth" seeking Catholic were to read, should cause their heart and soul pause. Reading should cause them to be frightened for their salvation.

I repeat if any "truth" seeking Catholic, which I would struggle to qualify Doc110, Radiance3 or Padremike as "truth" seeking Catholics.
We that rely on God's word, see how the greatest religion of Satan's deception uses men/women to defend using everything in their arsenal produced by the Roman Catholic church.

Jesus [Only] used God's word in defense.

Paul instructed us to [Only] used God's word to test against man's word and traditions that were false and entering the church even then.

Doc110, Radiance3, padremike are forced to use tradition, forced to use words spoken from Popes, Bishops, Cardinals, history as recorded by the Roman Catholic church..

Thus is my claim of their spiritual blindness, bound by demonic forces, perhaps even given over by God himself to their false gods, idols.

And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing. 4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we proclaim is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, with ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake. 6 For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. (2 Corinthians 4:3-6)

God Bless

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Dec 13, 2018 20:11:16   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
Jack,

Do you even believe the compost bullcrap that you spew from the fake website and with no url link.

This is nothing more than anti-Catholic propaganda rhetoric that you believe HOOK-LINE-AND SINKER . . . .

You're noting more than a fundamentalist religious prostitute trollop. . . . and sincerely, I mean this with all sincerity...

1. Do you even know the origins of the Jesuit orders and their religious history ?

2. ahhhh a shopping cart fundamentalist Protestant . . . deception since the ascension of our Lord and Saviour Jesus the Christ

What in the name of Christ are you even talking about, Satan and his demons have taken over your mind. Jack you're a sick psychotic individual.

seek lots of medical and spiritual help...

jack sequim wa wrote:


The greatest evil and deception since the ascension of our Lord and Saviour Jesus the Christ has been the Roman Catholic church.
http://www.understandthetimes.org/commentary/c97.shtml

Partial article, use above link for full text.

 

 

According to Bible prophecy, a one-world religion that will offer the promise of peace throughout the world is going to commence prior to Christ’s return. To most, this global body will seem like a wonderful thing and very possibly will be a pseudo-Christianity (coming in the name of “Christ”); however, contrary to how the masses will view it, it will actually help establish and set up the antichrist and his one- world government.

In order for this to happen, all religions must come together in an ecumenical plan. Today, as part of this Satanic scheme, the evangelical/Protestant church is being drawn seductively into the Roman Catholic church, largely through what we call “The Jesuit Agenda.” Incredibly, while the evidence is obvious to some, the majority of proclaiming Christians are not at all aware it is happening.

So, what should we expect if we are in the time when such a system unfolds? First, many who once were Protestant and evangelical will become ecumenical and eventually assimilate with the Roman Catholic church. Second, all religions will unite in solidarity of purpose. Understanding the Jesuit Agenda is essential if we are to understand how this worldwide deception will come about.

Who are the Jesuits?

Since its foundation, the Catholic papacy has been zealous and often brutal in its endeavor to establish the kingdom of the Pope (of whom it is believed within the Catholic church is headed by Jesus Christ). In fact, the Pope has been referred to as the “Vicar of Christ.” This determination was witnessed during the Inquisition where countless thousands, if not millions, died cruelly for resisting Rome. Foxe’s Book of Martyrsdescribes many of these atrocities.

While many believers in Christ during the Reformation period attempted to spread the truth that God’s Word was truly God’s Word and could not be squandered and kept hostage by the papacy and the Catholic Church, it was not long before the Counter Reformation was founded to bring the “Separated Brethren” back to the “Mother of All Churches.”

This Counter Reformation was largely headed by Ignatius Loyola, the man who founded the Jesuit Order in the mid 1500s and launched an all-out attack against those who dared stand against the papacy and Rome. This excerpt from Foxe’s Book of Martyrs gives us an idea of the nature and determination of this Counter Reformation:

The emperor Ferdinand, whose hatred of the Bohemian Protestants was without bounds, not thinking he had sufficiently oppressed them, instituted a high court to prosecute the reformers upon the plan of the Inquisition, with this difference, that the court was to travel from place to place and always to be attended by a body of troops. This court was conducted chiefly by Jesuits and from their decision there was no appeal, by which it may be easily conjectured that it was a dreadful tribunal indeed.


This bloody court, attended by a body of troops, made the tour of Bohemia. They seldom examined or saw a prisoner, for the soldiers were permitted to murder the Protestants as they pleased and then to make a report of the matter to them afterward.(1)

You see, the Jesuits were commissioned by the Pope to do whatever it took to end the Protestant Reformation. The 1540 Constitution of the Jesuits states:

[L]et whoever desires to fight under the sacred banner of the Cross, and to serve only God and the Roman pontiff, His vicar on earth, after a solemn vow of perpetual chastity,- let him keep in mind that he is part of a society, instituted for the purpose of perfecting souls in life and in Christian doctrine, for the propagation of the faith . . . Let all members know, and let it be not only at the beginning of their profession, but let them think over it daily as long as they live, that the society as a whole, and each of them, owes obedience to our most holy lord, the pope, and the other Roman pontiffs, his successors, and to fight with faithful obedience for God. (Emphasis added.)

 While most Christians think that the Counter Reformation is a thing of the past because we are not seeing Inquisitions today, this movement continues until today and with renewed effort through various avenues of the evangelical/Protestant church. In a way, it is more insidious than the Inquisitions, because now it has infiltrated Christianity and is being disguised as the “new” Christianity. (Rick Warren promotes it as the “new” or second reformation.) But disguised or not, it is the Jesuit Agenda, and it is bringing about ecumenism and a one-world religion. And at the same time, it is attempting to destroy the message that so many died for -  the message that Jesus Christ is not found in a wafer and a cup of juice to be re-crucified day after day but has died once and for all for the sins of man and offers a salvation that is an entirely free gift, unearned to those who believe on Him (Hebrews 7:27; 10:11-14).

Who Was Ignatius Loyola?

After a serious injury in the military and during a lengthy rehabilitation, Ignatius Loyola (b. 1491, d. 1556) turned his focus from “military enthusiasm to ghostly fanaticism.(2)  Ignatius assumed the name and office of Knight of the Virgin Mary, seeing himself as Mary’s favorite. Ignatius wanted to start a new order, The Society of Jesus (or the Jesuits) and presented the idea to the Pope. He told the Pope that the idea had been inspired by heavenly revelations. At first, the Pope hesitated, but when Ignatius added a fourth vow (in addition to the regular poverty, chastity, and obedience), “absolute subservience to the pope,” promising to do whatever the Pope wanted and go wherever he wanted, the Pope agreed and sent the new order out to “invade the world.” While other monks of other orders sought to separate themselves from the world, the Jesuits went out into the world and obeyed whatever command the Pope gave. Often this was to win the world with the sword. No violent act was withheld if the order came from their top “general.” (3)

In time, the Jesuits entered the education system, especially that of the Protestants. The Jesuit maxim was: “Give us the education of the children of this day – and the next generation will be ours.”(4) The Reverend W. C. Brownlee, D.D. stated: “They pretended to be converted and to enter into Protestant churches.” One Jesuit even boasted that the Jesuits were successfully able to imitate the Puritan preachers. They used trickery and deception to become “all things to all men.” Within 48 years, there were eleven thousand Jesuits around the world, quite a large number for back then. (5)

By 1773, the order was abolished because of their horrible reputation of bloodiness, deception, and immorality. However, they were reinstated fully in 1814 by Pope Pius VII. Even by this time, the influence and infiltration into the United States by the Jesuits was significant.

In 1857, the Reverend W.C. Brownlee, D.D. compiled a book of a translated document called Secret Instructions of the Jesuits (found on the Boston College Libraries website, for one). While Catholic sources say that the Secret Instructions of the Jesuits is an untrue document, there is enough evidence to indicate that it is true indeed. Naturally, it is so indicting against the papacy and the Jesuit Order that one can understand from a human point of view why Catholic sources would say the document isn’t true. But the facts are that the Jesuit Order was performing brutal cruel acts to bring the world to “Christ” and the Mother Church and that they were infiltrating every area of society to do so. This cannot be denied. Brownlee’s book would be a worthwhile read for those who wish to understand more of the history of the Jesuits.

The Jesuit Oath

It is said that the ancient Jesuits took the Jesuit Oath. This has been refuted by Catholic sources as a true oath taken by Jesuits of the past; nevertheless, there is evidence enough that the oath did exist to include excerpts of it in this report. We have taken these excerpts from a book titled Political and Economic Handbook by Thomas Edward Watson published in 1916, and found in the Harvard College library.

I do declare from my heart, without mental reservation, that the Pope is Christ’s Vicar General and . . .  He hath power to depose Heretical Kings, Princes, States  . . .  that they may safely be destroyed. Therefore, to the utmost of my power I will defend this doctrine. . . . I do further declare the doctrine of the Church of England, of the Calvanists [sic], the Huguenots, and other Protestants to be damnable and those to be damned who will not forsake the same.

I do further declare that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of His Holiness agents in any place wherever I shall be; and to do my utmost to extirpate [exterminate] the heretical Protestant doctrine, and to destroy all their pretended power. (p. 437)

In another version of the Jesuit Oath, the Jesuit is asked to promise that he will make “relentless war” against “all heretics, Protestants” and to “hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics” (found in U.S. House Congressional Record, 1913, p. 3216).

The Jesuit Agenda Today:

While we are not saying that Jesuits today are murdering Protestants if they don’t convert to Catholicism, we are saying that the determination and efforts to convert Protestants back to the Mother Church still exist. Basically, while the methods may have changed, the plan and objectives have not. The following quote from an article titled “Essay on Popery”by Rev. Ingram Cobbin M.A. (taken from one edition of Foxe’s Book of Martyrs) is insightful:

The Jesuits, though at times expelled or pretendedly so from Rome, have been its awful emissaries to augment its power.  The intrigues and deceptions of these men would fill volumes, and the conveniency of their creed to deny or affirm anything, or assume any profession as it may serve their purpose, is too well known to need recapitulating here.  These men have at times assumed so much that every papal state has alternately ejected them; and large numbers are now in this country—doubtless many under false colours —waiting the most favourable opportunities to corrupt the rising generation, and, as much as possible, restore the dark days of former ages.  The Jesuits are unchangeable. 

The Jesuits were driven in the past to bring back the lost brethren, and they are driven today with the same vision. Today, that vision is part of the pope’s Eucharistic Evangelization, drawing people to the Eucharistic Christ. The Eucharistic Evangelization is discussed at length in Another Jesus: The Evangelization of the Eucharistic Christ and in several articles on the Understand the Times website.

 Jesuit (Mystical) Spirituality and the Protestant/Evangelical Church

So if the methods of converting lost or prodigal souls back to Rome have changed, what is the method to accomplish these goals today? It is largely through what is called Jesuit Spirituality. A 2002 book titled Contemplatives in Action: The Jesuit Way reveals how the Jesuit order has had and continues to have a “great influence” in people around the world. It attributes this “vitality” to “its spirituality” which has also “evoked fierce loyalty and fierce opposition.”(6)

What is the spirituality of the Jesuits that was so controversial? By their very roots, Jesuits are proponents of mystical prayer practices. The founder of the Jesuits, Ignatius Loyola, created “spiritual exercises” that incorporated mysticism, including lectio divina. Today, millions of people worldwide practice the “Spiritual Exercises of Ignatius Loyola.” 

One Jesuit priest who resonates with the mystical spiritual outlook is Anthony De Mello(d. 1987), author of Sadhana: A Way to God. De Mello is often quoted today by contemplative and emerging authors and embraced the mysticism of Hinduism. He stated:

To silence the mind is an extremely difficult task. How hard it is to keep the mind from thinking, thinking, thinking, forever thinking, forever producing thoughts in a never ending stream. Our Hindu masters in India have a saying: one thorn is removed by another. By this they mean that you will be wise to use one thought to rid yourself of all the other thoughts that crowd into your mind. One thought, one image, one phrase or sentence or word that your mind can be made to fasten on. – Anthony de Mello, Sadhana: A Way to God (St. Louis, the Institute of Jesuit Resources, 1978), p. 28 (cited from A Time of Departing, by Ray Yungen, p. 75).
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1540
Jesuit order established

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/jesuit-order-established

In Rome, the Society of Jesus–a Roman Catholic missionary organization–receives its charter from Pope Paul III. The Jesuit order played an important role in the Counter-Reformation and eventually succeeded in converting millions around the world to Catholicism.

The Jesuit movement was founded by Ignatius de Loyola, a Spanish soldier turned priest, in August 1534. The first Jesuits–Ignatius and six of his students–took vows of poverty and chastity and made plans to work for the conversion of Muslims. If travel to the Holy Land was not possible, they vowed to offer themselves to the pope for apostolic work. Unable to travel to Jerusalem because of the Turkish wars, they went to Rome instead to meet with the pope and request permission to form a new religious order. In September 1540, Pope Paul III approved Ignatius’ outline of the Society of Jesus, and the Jesuit order was born.

Under Ignatius’ charismatic leadership, the Society of Jesus grew quickly. Jesuit missionaries played a leading role in the Counter-Reformation and won back many of the European faithful who had been lost to Protestantism. In Ignatius’ lifetime, Jesuits were also dispatched to India, Brazil, the Congo region, and Ethiopia. Education was of utmost importance to the Jesuits, and in Rome Ignatius founded the Roman College (later called the Gregorian University) and the Germanicum, a school for German priests. The Jesuits also ran several charitable organizations, such as one for former prostitutes and one for converted Jews. When Ignatius de Loyola died in July 1556, there were more than 1,000 Jesuit priests.

During the next century, the Jesuits set up ministries around the globe. The “Black-Robes,” as they were known in Native America, often preceded other Europeans in their infiltration of foreign lands and societies. The life of a Jesuit was one of immense risk, and thousands of priests were persecuted or killed by foreign authorities hostile to their mission of conversion. However, in some nations, such as India and China, the Jesuits were welcomed as men of wisdom and science.

With the rise of nationalism in the 18th century, most European countries suppressed the Jesuits, and in 1773 Pope Clement XIV dissolved the order under pressure from the Bourbon monarchs. However, in 1814, Pope Pius VII gave in to popular demand and reestablished the Jesuits as an order, and they continue their missionary work to this day. Ignatius de Loyola was canonized a Catholic saint in 1622.

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Doc110 wrote:
Jack,

That's all you do, so expect the same courtesy in return . . .

You haven't proven anything . . .

Show it to me biblically and scripturally, hearsay and innuendos, they don't win arguments Jack.


Jack is right. You've been shown many facts but you either don't read or you reject them with little to no thought. Your heart is hardened to the truth and we can only hope it softens. Some of us have been where you are right now. I was. Christ is the only way to salvation. Nothing else. Christ exclusively.

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The Society of Jesus•The Church•

https://jesuitchurch.net/learn/the-society-of-jesus

What is the Society of Jesus?
The Society of Jesus is a religious order of the Roman Catholic Church, founded by St. Ignatius of Loyola. The Jesuits are the largest male religious order in the world, with approximately 19,000 members internationally.

How was the Society of Jesus founded?
Ignatius of Loyola founded the ‘Company of Jesus’ with six others (Francisco Xavier, Pierre Faber, Alonso Salmerón, Diego Laínez, Nicolás Bobadilla and Simão Rodriguez) and took their first vows at a Mass at Montmartre in Paris in 1534. In 1537 they traveled to Italy to receive permission from Pope Paul III for the religious order. Later that year, Ignatius and his companions were ordained to the priesthood in Venice, Italy. On September 27, 1540, at the Palazzo San Marco in Rome, Pope Paul III signed the Bull “Regimini militantis ecclesiae,” establishing the Society of Jesus officially as a religious order.

How is the Society of Jesus organized?
Jesuits around the world are organized into 91 geographic areas called provinces governed by a provincial superior who is appointed by and reports directly to the Society’s Superior General. Jesuit provinces are grouped into 10 regional “assistancies,” each with an “assistant” to Father General in Rome. In the United States, ten provinces form a single assistancy.

Who is the current Superior General of the Society of Jesus?
On January 19, 2008, Father Adolfo Nicolás, SJ, moderator of the East Asian Assistancy, was elected 30th Superior General of the Society of Jesus.

Where does the name Jesuit come from?
It was first applied derisively to the Society, meaning “one who used too frequently or appropriated the name of Jesus.” While never employed by its founder, members and friends of the Society in time appropriated the name in its now positive meaning.

What are the vows that Jesuits take? What is the fourth vow?
Poverty, Chastity and Obedience. The fourth vow is of obedience to the Pope with regard to mission.

What is the formula for the four solemn vows that Jesuits take?
I, (name), make my profession, and I promise to Almighty God, in the presence of his Virgin Mother, the whole heavenly court, and all those here present and to you , Reverend Father (Provincial, Rector, etc.) representing the Superior General of the Society of Jesus and his successors and holding the place of God, perpetual poverty, chastity and obedience; and, in conformity with it, special care for the instruction of children, according to the manner of living contained in the apostolic letters of the Society of Jesus and its Constitutions.

I further promise a special obedience to the Sovereign Pontiff in regard to the missions according to the same apostolic letters and Constitutions.

Place (name), in the Church of (name), on the date of (date)

(Signatures of the one making vows and the one receiving them).

Do Jesuits have a formal habit (identifying clothing)?
Jesuits do not have an official habit. In the Constitutions of the Society, it gives these instructions concerning clothing; “The clothing too should have three characteristics: first, it should be proper; second, conformed to the usage of the country of residence; and third, not contradictory to the poverty we profess…” (Const. 577)

Historically, a “Jesuit-style cassock” became standard issue: it wrapped around the body and was tied with a cincture, rather than the customary buttoned front, a tuftless biretta (only diocesan clergy wore tufts), and a simple cape. As such, though Jesuit garb appeared distinctive, and became identifiable over time, it was the common priestly dress of Ignatius’ day. During the missionary periods of the Continental Americas, the various American Indian tribes referred to Jesuits as “Blackrobes” because of their black cassocks. Today, most Jesuits wear the Roman collar tab shirts in non-liturgical, ministerial settings.

What is the IHS?
IHS is derived from the first three letters of the Greek name of Jesus, iota-eta-sigma. IHS is also featured in the Jesuit crest.



What is AMDG?

AMDG is the abbreviation of the Latin phrase: “Ad maiorem Dei gloriam.” In English this translates to “For the greater glory of God.”

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