Please, Don’t Call Protestants Christians
Dec 2, 2018 13:57:47 #
11/29/2018 Please, Don’t Call Protestants Christians
Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.
https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/m013rpProtestantsChristians.html
It is very common today to hear Catholics call a Protestant “a Christian,” or even, “a good Christian.”
In the United States, it was already a practice before Vatican II because of the tendency of American Catholics to accommodate Protestantism, whose tonus dominated the social and business spheres.
(The constant low-level activity of a body tissue, especially muscle tone.)
Then, there was the question of adaptation as prominent Protestants joined the Catholic faith, or Catholics entered into marriages with Protestants.
It was just easier to call everyone “Christian.”
Supposedly it underplayed differences.
It was meant to create the impression that Catholics and Protestants were cousins in one big, happy family.
Pope Leo XIII condemned this tolerance toward Protestantism under the name of Americanism, the heresy of Americanism, to be more precise.
After Vatican II, needless to say, the practice of calling Protestants Christians has snowballed, with the official conciliar documents assuming this same impropriety.
Hence, the Holy See, Prelates and priests have made its use as widespread as possible.
Accommodation to Protestantism in our days has reached such a point that some Catholics, to distinguish between Catholics and their Protestant “separated brethren,” call themselves Catholic Christians.
A redundancy if I've ever heard one.
Only Catholics can be true Christians.
No one who dissents from the Roman Catholic Church can be a Christian.
The terms are synonymous.
Every time I hear the term Christian used for Protestants, I cringe.
Its usage clearly nourishes a trend toward a dangerous religious indifferentism, which denies the duty of man to worship God by believing and practicing the one true Catholic Religion.
It is an implicit admission that those who deny the one Faith can nonetheless be Christians, that is, be in the Church of Christ.
Inherently it leads to the progressivist notion that men can be saved in any religion that accepts Christ as Savior.
A “good Lutheran,” a “good Anglican,” a “good Presbyterian – what does it matter so long as they are good people and sincerely love Christ?
Regardless of who is applying this usage today, I want to stress that it is at variance with the entire tradition of the Catholic Church until the Council.
To consider heretics as Christians is not the teaching of the Church.
Before Vatican II, the Magisterium was always very clear:
It is not a matter of an individual’s character or traits.
No one can be in the Church of Christ without professing the ensemble of the truths of Catholic Faith, being in unity with the Chair of Peter and receiving the same Seven Sacraments.
The only Christian is one who accepts Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Church he established. Who can have God for Father and not accept the Church for Mother?
(Pope Pius IX, Singulari quidem of March 17, 1856)
www.papalencyclicals.net/pius09/p9singul.htm
Who can accept the spouse Christ, and not his mystical bride the Church? Who can separate the Head, the only begotten Son of God, from the body, which is His Church? (Pope Leo XIII, Satis cognitum of June 29, 1896). It is not possible.
http://w2.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_29061896_satis-cognitum.html
In short, only those who profess the one Catholic Faith and are united with the Mystical Body of Christ are members of the Church of Christ.
And only those members can legitimately bear the title of honor of Christian.
The Protestant sect started as a revolt, protesting the Church of Christ and, pretending to accept Christ without Peter, the authority He established on earth.
With this split, they left the Church and became heretics.
This used to be clearly said and understood, without sentimental fear of offending one’s neighbors or relatives:
A Protestant is a heretic because he severed himself from the Body of the Church.
He is not a Christian, and certainly not a “good Christian.”
Scriptures confirm this truth
My friend Jan thought I was being too severe on this topic.
“You’re making a mountain out of a molehill,” she said.
“Don’t Scriptures teach us to love our neighbor and not be judgmental?”
It is the same old post Vatican II story, claiming that it is “judgmental” to correct bad practices and false teachings and arguing with disputable interpretations of Scriptures.
Well, despite these subjective interpretations, the inspired words of Scriptures provide an unambiguous defense that the custody of the vineyard has been committed by Christ to the Catholic Church alone.
Let me quote just a few verses:
a. “He who hears you (Peter) hears me, and he who rejects you, rejects me, and he who rejects me, rejects him who sent me.”
Luke 10:16
It could not be clearer:
The Protestant who rejects the head, rejects Christ himself, and should not be granted the name Christian.
b. Christ establishes one Church with a single head: "And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
Matthew 16:19
c. St. Paul is severe in his condemnation of false teachers, e.g. Protestants: “If any man preaches any other Gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
Galatians 1: 9
In another passage he instructs Catholics to remove themselves from the bad society of non-Catholics:
d. “And we charge you, brethren, in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ that you withdraw yourselves from every brother walking disorderly and not according to the Tradition which they have received of us.”
2 Thessalonians 3:6
The Apostle St. John forbade any intercourse with heretics:
e. “If any man come to you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house or welcome him.”
2 John 1:10
Holy Scriptures are clear on the point that only those who belong to the one Church founded by Christ, the Catholic Church, can rightfully be considered Christians.
Popes reiterate this teaching
Only inside the Catholic Church can true union be achieved
The traditional Papal Magisterium was also clear on this topic. Let me offer a few texts by way of exemplification.
Pius XII stated unequivocally:
“To be Christian one must be Roman. One must recognize the oneness of Christ’s Church that is governed by one successor of the Prince of the Apostles who is the Bishop of Rome, Christ’s Vicar on earth”
(Allocution to the Irish pilgrims of October 8, 1957).
How is it possible to be clearer than this about those who can be called Christian?
Leo XIII makes it plain that separated members cannot belong to the same body:
“So long as the member was on the body, it lived; separated, it lost its life.
Thus the man, so long as he lives on the body of the [Catholic] Church, he is a Christian; separated from her, he becomes a heretic”
(Encyclical Satis cognitum of June 29, 1896)
www.papalencyclicals.net/leo13/l13satis.htm
w2.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_29061896_satis-cognitum.html
Emphasizing the fate of those who break away from the one Faith, he says:
“Whoever leaves her [the Catholic Church] departs from the will and command of Our Lord Jesus Christ; leaving the path of salvation, he enters that of perdition.
Whoever is separated from the Church is united to an adulteress” (ibid.).
Certainly, they do not share with us the same title of Christian.
Pope Pius IX stated:
“He who abandons the Chair of Peter on which the Church is founded, is falsely persuaded that he is in the Church of Christ.”
(Quartus supra of January 6 1873, n. 8)
ww.papalencyclicals.net/pius09/p9quartu.htm
In the Syllabus of Modern Errors, the proposition that Protestantism is nothing more than another form of the same true Christian religion was specifically condemned.
(Pius IX, n. 18)(1)
www.papalencyclicals.net/pius09/p9syll.htm
Syllabus of Errors still relevant 150 years later - Our Sunday Visitor
https://www.osv.com/Article/TabId/493/ArtMID/13569/ArticleID/16
Therefore, there is only one Christian Church, the Catholic Church, and only those who belong to it should rightfully be called Christians.
How to fight Americanism?
Many persons ask me:
What can I do to fight Progressivism?
Others have requested:
Give me some specific examples of how I can combat Americanism.
Let me offer one concrete way to fight in yourself the tendency toward accommodation with Protestantism.
When you catch yourself calling a Protestant a “Christian,” stop and correct yourself.
Call him a Protestant.
It is a way to affirm that you do not accept the Protestant errors and that you acknowledge it for the terrible thing it is:
Protestants denied many Catholic dogmas and for this reason caused that first major crack in the unity of the Catholic Church that caused untold damage to Christendom and the perdition of those souls adhering to it.
It is a small thing, but by such small customs we as a people have been walking steadily toward religious indifferentism.
It is time to set some roadblocks on that path.
We should not veil in ambiguous terms our love for the ensemble of the Catholic Faith.
The only true union possible for Catholics with Protestants is by their return to the one true Church of Christ, the Catholic Church.
Only with such a return can they rightfully call themselves Christians.
Numerous traditional Catholic teachings on the this topic can be found in Atila S. Guimarães, Aniums Delendi II, Los Angeles: TIA, 2002, pp. 205-217.
Animus Delendi II addresses Secularization and Ecumenism, the two main initiatives of Vatican Council II.
Through Secularization, Progressivism is destroying the foundations of the State and replacing it with a trans-Socialist structure, with experimental communities already set up here and there.
Through Ecumenism, Progressivism is meticulously destroying the unity of the Catholic Faith, the uniqueness of the Holy Church, her militancy, and her missionary character.
Certainly these initiatives reveal an animus delendi- a desire to destroy never before seen in History.
Notwithstanding, these same maneuvers were first presented as manifestations of love for the world and charity toward the false religions – the much trumpeted spirit of the Council.
By the fruits, Guimarães shows the tree.
Reading this volume one sees that Secularization and Ecumenism constitute two colossal ruses to fool the unsuspecting Catholic faithful and lead them to a slaughter of their souls.
A repetition of the killing of the innocents ordered by Herod.
Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.
https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/m013rpProtestantsChristians.html
It is very common today to hear Catholics call a Protestant “a Christian,” or even, “a good Christian.”
In the United States, it was already a practice before Vatican II because of the tendency of American Catholics to accommodate Protestantism, whose tonus dominated the social and business spheres.
(The constant low-level activity of a body tissue, especially muscle tone.)
Then, there was the question of adaptation as prominent Protestants joined the Catholic faith, or Catholics entered into marriages with Protestants.
It was just easier to call everyone “Christian.”
Supposedly it underplayed differences.
It was meant to create the impression that Catholics and Protestants were cousins in one big, happy family.
Pope Leo XIII condemned this tolerance toward Protestantism under the name of Americanism, the heresy of Americanism, to be more precise.
After Vatican II, needless to say, the practice of calling Protestants Christians has snowballed, with the official conciliar documents assuming this same impropriety.
Hence, the Holy See, Prelates and priests have made its use as widespread as possible.
Accommodation to Protestantism in our days has reached such a point that some Catholics, to distinguish between Catholics and their Protestant “separated brethren,” call themselves Catholic Christians.
A redundancy if I've ever heard one.
Only Catholics can be true Christians.
No one who dissents from the Roman Catholic Church can be a Christian.
The terms are synonymous.
Every time I hear the term Christian used for Protestants, I cringe.
Its usage clearly nourishes a trend toward a dangerous religious indifferentism, which denies the duty of man to worship God by believing and practicing the one true Catholic Religion.
It is an implicit admission that those who deny the one Faith can nonetheless be Christians, that is, be in the Church of Christ.
Inherently it leads to the progressivist notion that men can be saved in any religion that accepts Christ as Savior.
A “good Lutheran,” a “good Anglican,” a “good Presbyterian – what does it matter so long as they are good people and sincerely love Christ?
Regardless of who is applying this usage today, I want to stress that it is at variance with the entire tradition of the Catholic Church until the Council.
To consider heretics as Christians is not the teaching of the Church.
Before Vatican II, the Magisterium was always very clear:
It is not a matter of an individual’s character or traits.
No one can be in the Church of Christ without professing the ensemble of the truths of Catholic Faith, being in unity with the Chair of Peter and receiving the same Seven Sacraments.
The only Christian is one who accepts Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Church he established. Who can have God for Father and not accept the Church for Mother?
(Pope Pius IX, Singulari quidem of March 17, 1856)
www.papalencyclicals.net/pius09/p9singul.htm
Who can accept the spouse Christ, and not his mystical bride the Church? Who can separate the Head, the only begotten Son of God, from the body, which is His Church? (Pope Leo XIII, Satis cognitum of June 29, 1896). It is not possible.
http://w2.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_29061896_satis-cognitum.html
In short, only those who profess the one Catholic Faith and are united with the Mystical Body of Christ are members of the Church of Christ.
And only those members can legitimately bear the title of honor of Christian.
The Protestant sect started as a revolt, protesting the Church of Christ and, pretending to accept Christ without Peter, the authority He established on earth.
With this split, they left the Church and became heretics.
This used to be clearly said and understood, without sentimental fear of offending one’s neighbors or relatives:
A Protestant is a heretic because he severed himself from the Body of the Church.
He is not a Christian, and certainly not a “good Christian.”
Scriptures confirm this truth
My friend Jan thought I was being too severe on this topic.
“You’re making a mountain out of a molehill,” she said.
“Don’t Scriptures teach us to love our neighbor and not be judgmental?”
It is the same old post Vatican II story, claiming that it is “judgmental” to correct bad practices and false teachings and arguing with disputable interpretations of Scriptures.
Well, despite these subjective interpretations, the inspired words of Scriptures provide an unambiguous defense that the custody of the vineyard has been committed by Christ to the Catholic Church alone.
Let me quote just a few verses:
a. “He who hears you (Peter) hears me, and he who rejects you, rejects me, and he who rejects me, rejects him who sent me.”
Luke 10:16
It could not be clearer:
The Protestant who rejects the head, rejects Christ himself, and should not be granted the name Christian.
b. Christ establishes one Church with a single head: "And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
Matthew 16:19
c. St. Paul is severe in his condemnation of false teachers, e.g. Protestants: “If any man preaches any other Gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
Galatians 1: 9
In another passage he instructs Catholics to remove themselves from the bad society of non-Catholics:
d. “And we charge you, brethren, in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ that you withdraw yourselves from every brother walking disorderly and not according to the Tradition which they have received of us.”
2 Thessalonians 3:6
The Apostle St. John forbade any intercourse with heretics:
e. “If any man come to you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house or welcome him.”
2 John 1:10
Holy Scriptures are clear on the point that only those who belong to the one Church founded by Christ, the Catholic Church, can rightfully be considered Christians.
Popes reiterate this teaching
Only inside the Catholic Church can true union be achieved
The traditional Papal Magisterium was also clear on this topic. Let me offer a few texts by way of exemplification.
Pius XII stated unequivocally:
“To be Christian one must be Roman. One must recognize the oneness of Christ’s Church that is governed by one successor of the Prince of the Apostles who is the Bishop of Rome, Christ’s Vicar on earth”
(Allocution to the Irish pilgrims of October 8, 1957).
How is it possible to be clearer than this about those who can be called Christian?
Leo XIII makes it plain that separated members cannot belong to the same body:
“So long as the member was on the body, it lived; separated, it lost its life.
Thus the man, so long as he lives on the body of the [Catholic] Church, he is a Christian; separated from her, he becomes a heretic”
(Encyclical Satis cognitum of June 29, 1896)
www.papalencyclicals.net/leo13/l13satis.htm
w2.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_29061896_satis-cognitum.html
Emphasizing the fate of those who break away from the one Faith, he says:
“Whoever leaves her [the Catholic Church] departs from the will and command of Our Lord Jesus Christ; leaving the path of salvation, he enters that of perdition.
Whoever is separated from the Church is united to an adulteress” (ibid.).
Certainly, they do not share with us the same title of Christian.
Pope Pius IX stated:
“He who abandons the Chair of Peter on which the Church is founded, is falsely persuaded that he is in the Church of Christ.”
(Quartus supra of January 6 1873, n. 8)
ww.papalencyclicals.net/pius09/p9quartu.htm
In the Syllabus of Modern Errors, the proposition that Protestantism is nothing more than another form of the same true Christian religion was specifically condemned.
(Pius IX, n. 18)(1)
www.papalencyclicals.net/pius09/p9syll.htm
Syllabus of Errors still relevant 150 years later - Our Sunday Visitor
https://www.osv.com/Article/TabId/493/ArtMID/13569/ArticleID/16
Therefore, there is only one Christian Church, the Catholic Church, and only those who belong to it should rightfully be called Christians.
How to fight Americanism?
Many persons ask me:
What can I do to fight Progressivism?
Others have requested:
Give me some specific examples of how I can combat Americanism.
Let me offer one concrete way to fight in yourself the tendency toward accommodation with Protestantism.
When you catch yourself calling a Protestant a “Christian,” stop and correct yourself.
Call him a Protestant.
It is a way to affirm that you do not accept the Protestant errors and that you acknowledge it for the terrible thing it is:
Protestants denied many Catholic dogmas and for this reason caused that first major crack in the unity of the Catholic Church that caused untold damage to Christendom and the perdition of those souls adhering to it.
It is a small thing, but by such small customs we as a people have been walking steadily toward religious indifferentism.
It is time to set some roadblocks on that path.
We should not veil in ambiguous terms our love for the ensemble of the Catholic Faith.
The only true union possible for Catholics with Protestants is by their return to the one true Church of Christ, the Catholic Church.
Only with such a return can they rightfully call themselves Christians.
Numerous traditional Catholic teachings on the this topic can be found in Atila S. Guimarães, Aniums Delendi II, Los Angeles: TIA, 2002, pp. 205-217.
Animus Delendi II addresses Secularization and Ecumenism, the two main initiatives of Vatican Council II.
Through Secularization, Progressivism is destroying the foundations of the State and replacing it with a trans-Socialist structure, with experimental communities already set up here and there.
Through Ecumenism, Progressivism is meticulously destroying the unity of the Catholic Faith, the uniqueness of the Holy Church, her militancy, and her missionary character.
Certainly these initiatives reveal an animus delendi- a desire to destroy never before seen in History.
Notwithstanding, these same maneuvers were first presented as manifestations of love for the world and charity toward the false religions – the much trumpeted spirit of the Council.
By the fruits, Guimarães shows the tree.
Reading this volume one sees that Secularization and Ecumenism constitute two colossal ruses to fool the unsuspecting Catholic faithful and lead them to a slaughter of their souls.
A repetition of the killing of the innocents ordered by Herod.
Dec 3, 2018 10:08:44 #
A true Protestant Christian that has come to Christ and have repented of their sins and has been Baptized into Christ Death Burial and Resurrection and has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ !
When they know they have sinned they go directly to the only one that has the power to forgive that sin and one who remembers that sin no more !
No man has the power what soever to forgive sins only Christ can do that !
When they know they have sinned they go directly to the only one that has the power to forgive that sin and one who remembers that sin no more !
No man has the power what soever to forgive sins only Christ can do that !
Dec 3, 2018 10:26:23 #
4430 wrote:
A true Protestant Christian that has come to Christ and have repented of their sins and has been Baptized into Christ Death Burial and Resurrection and has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ !
When they know they have sinned they go directly to the only one that has the power to forgive that sin and one who remembers that sin no more !
No man has the power what soever to forgive sins only Christ can do that !
When they know they have sinned they go directly to the only one that has the power to forgive that sin and one who remembers that sin no more !
No man has the power what soever to forgive sins only Christ can do that !
'nuff said.
Dec 3, 2018 11:32:04 #
4430 wrote:
A true Protestant Christian that has come to Christ and have repented of their sins and has been Baptized into Christ Death Burial and Resurrection and has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ !
When they know they have sinned they go directly to the only one that has the power to forgive that sin and one who remembers that sin no more !
No man has the power what soever to forgive sins only Christ can do that !
When they know they have sinned they go directly to the only one that has the power to forgive that sin and one who remembers that sin no more !
No man has the power what soever to forgive sins only Christ can do that !
Amen and Amen
Dec 3, 2018 23:54:52 #
TexaCan
Loc: Homeward Bound!
Doc110 wrote:
11/29/2018 Please, Don’t Call Protestants Christia... (show quote)
What about all the abominations that were forced on countless children, both girls and boys, rape and murder, forced abortions, and the subsequent cover ups! Yep! Real Christians, them thar Men of the Cloth! Hell will not be hot enough for those that commit the crimes or the ones that cover them up!
Dec 4, 2018 00:24:04 #
TexaCan wrote:
What about all the abominations that were forced on countless children, both girls and boys, rape and murder, forced abortions, and the subsequent cover ups! Yep! Real Christians, them thar Men of the Cloth! Hell will not be hot enough for those that commit the crimes or the ones that cover them up!
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Events happen both ways. First confront the Protestants, since it was reported that pervasive abuse has been happening only hidden and refused to confront.
Re: The grandson of Rev. Billy Graham reported statistics with massive abuse inside the Protestant Churches only with refusal to cooperate fixing it. Prefer to hide and deny while the abuse metastasize.
Dec 4, 2018 05:54:56 #
Radiance3 wrote:
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Events happen both ways. First confront the Protestants, since it was reported that pervasive abuse has been happening only hidden and refused to confront.
Re: The grandson of Rev. Billy Graham reported statistics with massive abuse inside the Protestant Churches only with refusal to cooperate fixing it. Prefer to hide and deny while the abuse metastasize.
Events happen both ways. First confront the Protestants, since it was reported that pervasive abuse has been happening only hidden and refused to confront.
Re: The grandson of Rev. Billy Graham reported statistics with massive abuse inside the Protestant Churches only with refusal to cooperate fixing it. Prefer to hide and deny while the abuse metastasize.
Hogwash
Dec 4, 2018 07:11:33 #
4430 wrote:
Hogwash
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The statistical reports from the son of Billy Graham is the most credible than thousands of you who lie and deny these pervasive abuses of the Protestant church.
Billy Graham's grandson has the sincere and ultimate desire to help and to fix but confronted by resistance of the lying protestants who continue to abuse
. The problems have gone to worst. Anybody who deny this is aiding and abetting the criminals, a very dangerous precedence who are the greatest problems today.
I am compelled to repeat this message for the sake of the innocents to make aware and try to get out of the very dangerous situation.
Dec 4, 2018 07:22:09 #
Radiance3 wrote:
=============== br The statistical reports from th... (show quote)
Then Prove it ! What church Where was it at and again I say PROVE IT !
All you anti Christian people do is make up garbage !
The only case of abuse in the UMC that I know of was in a town 15 miles south of me and when the it was reported the Bishops immediately call the law and he was removed on the spot !
Dec 4, 2018 07:37:50 #
4430 wrote:
Then Prove it ! What church Where was it at and again I say PROVE IT !
All you anti Christian people do is make up garbage !
The only case of abuse in the UMC that I know of was in a town 15 miles south of me and when the it was reported the Bishops immediately call the law and he was removed on the spot !
All you anti Christian people do is make up garbage !
The only case of abuse in the UMC that I know of was in a town 15 miles south of me and when the it was reported the Bishops immediately call the law and he was removed on the spot !
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The Catholic Church has been removing all those gays who were mistakenly accepted to be priests. Now, the gays even hate the Catholic church. Why? Because the Church does not allow them to be married within the church. Many of them are excommunicated. In addition. so many of the left hate the Catholics because of the condemnation of their baby killings, the abortions, which has killed 60 million since Roe vs Wade started during he 70's.
These hatred among those who are rejected as Christians become the biggest opponent of the Catholic Church, brought all kinds of complaints to retaliate.
On the contrary, grandson of Rev. Billy Graham has been confronted with resistance to correct the Protestant sexual abuses against their people. No correction was made but instead protected and hidden.
Dec 4, 2018 08:17:27 #
Radiance3 wrote:
================ br The Catholic Church has been r... (show quote)
Why can't you provide the proof I asked you for ?
I want to to know which Protestant church and what's it location and what the abuse it about ?
You sound like you are Catholic and it's well known for yrs the Catholic Church would just move these Priest to another area and never did anything about correcting the problem and this has went on for yrs !
Looks to me like you are trying to make Protestant the scrape goat for the Catholic Church all you have proved to me is your hated for Protestants !
Dec 4, 2018 08:25:06 #
TexaCan
Loc: Homeward Bound!
Radiance3 wrote:
=============== br The statistical reports from th... (show quote)
Radiance, you continue to state that this 'report' is written by Billy Graham's Grandson! That is not the truth! This article is written by a Liberal site, VICE! This author took some of the report and added false information to make the usual anti-Christian LIES! I explained this throughly, but you ignored it. You have completely gone to the Dark Side to attempt to cover the depth of the evil that has been going on in your Church since the very beginning! Anyone can read the actual report and immediately your lies!
Where are all these innocents?
Dec 4, 2018 09:05:40 #
4430 wrote:
Why can't you provide the proof I asked you for ? ... (show quote)
She has one article. I don't doubt there is sexual abuse amongst protestants but for her to claim its on a larger scale than the Catholic church is just her effort to gloss over her church's atrocities past and present.
Pedophilia in the Catholic church is still going on.
Dec 4, 2018 09:12:52 #
Rose42 wrote:
She has one article. I don't doubt there is sexual abuse amongst protestants but for her to claim its on a larger scale than the Catholic church is just her effort to gloss over her church's atrocities past and present.
Pedophilia in the Catholic church is still going on.
Pedophilia in the Catholic church is still going on.
I'm not saying there isn't any abuse in Protestants Churches however I've only known of one case here locally in the UMC and the Pastor was immediately removed and lost his license to preach and was turned over to the police !
Dec 4, 2018 09:20:55 #
4430 wrote:
I'm not saying there isn't any abuse in Protestants Churches however I've only known of one case here locally in the UMC and the Pastor was immediately removed and lost his license to preach and was turned over to the police !
The Catholic church doesn't turn priests over to the police. They transfer them or "retire" them and they still get paid.
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