One Political Plaza - Home of politics
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main
Do we really need to keep seeking more things
Page 1 of 2 next>
Apr 29, 2014 09:10:24   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
We need to see that things could be better for many if the money moved through the system fairer.

Each of us plays a part in the system. we must guard our self from seeking to be of our material things rather than just being our self as a good person.

We do need to use the goods & services each of us is a part of producing. But we need to this better.

When we seek more material things than we truly need in effect we sell apart of our soul. At some point need becomes greed.

We need to improve our inter personal relations with others with out showing off all of our material things. We need to look for the simple things that make life good.

We can find many things in people just being friends & enjoying their company. A true friend enjoys another for just being a good friend.

We don't need to make our material things the center of what we do with each other.

I feel a growing interest on this forum that many would just like to be friends.

Is that not a good way to seek what changes we need to make the world a better place.

We may not really need to change much. It is just a matter of bringing to the forefront that which is already there.

If we wish to be & have the things we really need we may find we can change the way things are.

Buy looking away from making material things our God we may find that the power truly is in our hands & not in the money changers.

Reply
Apr 29, 2014 09:19:41   #
Ve'hoe
 
Uhhh,,, no,,,,

"IF the money moved 'fairer'"
"We need to not 'covet' the things...."

Then you say:
"we must guard our self from seeking to be of our material things rather than just being our self as a good person."

"If we wish to be & have the things we really need we may find we can change the way things are.

Buy looking away from making material things our God we may find that the power truly is in our hands & not in the money changers"


Money,,, covetousness,,,, has ZERO relation to happiness nor how "GOOD" a person you are, and certainly NO relationship to GOD, godliness, nor worship.

You want to "change the world" ???? Change your activities and produce, then it will change.

I dont want any "friends" who want to move in and use my "evil material" stuff,,,,

I have family who do that, and they suck.....

Floyd Brown wrote:
We need to see that things could be better for many if the money moved through the system fairer.

Each of us plays a part in the system. we must guard our self from seeking to be of our material things rather than just being our self as a good person.

We do need to use the goods & services each of us is a part of producing. But we need to this better.

When we seek more material things than we truly need in effect we sell apart of our soul. At some point need becomes greed.

We need to improve our inter personal relations with others with out showing off all of our material things. We need to look for the simple things that make life good.

We can find many things in people just being friends & enjoying their company. A true friend enjoys another for just being a good friend.

We don't need to make our material things the center of what we do with each other.

I feel a growing interest on this forum that many would just like to be friends.

Is that not a good way to seek what changes we need to make the world a better place.

We may not really need to change much. It is just a matter of bringing to the forefront that which is already there.

If we wish to be & have the things we really need we may find we can change the way things are.

Buy looking away from making material things our God we may find that the power truly is in our hands & not in the money changers.
We need to see that things could be better for ma... (show quote)

Reply
Apr 29, 2014 09:25:57   #
skott Loc: Bama
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Uhhh,,, no,,,,

"IF the money moved 'fairer'"
"We need to not 'covet' the things...."

Then you say:
"we must guard our self from seeking to be of our material things rather than just being our self as a good person."

"If we wish to be & have the things we really need we may find we can change the way things are.

Buy looking away from making material things our God we may find that the power truly is in our hands & not in the money changers"


Money,,, covetousness,,,, has ZERO relation to happiness nor how "GOOD" a person you are, and certainly NO relationship to GOD, godliness, nor worship.

You want to "change the world" ???? Change your activities and produce, then it will change.

I dont want any "friends" who want to move in and use my "evil material" stuff,,,,

I have family who do that, and they suck.....
Uhhh,,, no,,,, br br "IF the money moved 'fa... (show quote)


True dat.

Reply
 
 
Apr 29, 2014 10:01:14   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
We need to see that things could be better for many if the money moved through the system fairer.

Each of us plays a part in the system. we must guard our self from seeking to be of our material things rather than just being our self as a good person.

We do need to use the goods & services each of us is a part of producing. But we need to this better.

When we seek more material things than we truly need in effect we sell apart of our soul. At some point need becomes greed.

We need to improve our inter personal relations with others with out showing off all of our material things. We need to look for the simple things that make life good.

We can find many things in people just being friends & enjoying their company. A true friend enjoys another for just being a good friend.

We don't need to make our material things the center of what we do with each other.

I feel a growing interest on this forum that many would just like to be friends.

Is that not a good way to seek what changes we need to make the world a better place.

We may not really need to change much. It is just a matter of bringing to the forefront that which is already there.

If we wish to be & have the things we really need we may find we can change the way things are.

Buy looking away from making material things our God we may find that the power truly is in our hands & not in the money changers.
We need to see that things could be better for ma... (show quote)


How is the system not fair, as it is? What do you mean by "fairer?"

Definitions of Fair
1 Fair: by the rules
2 Fair: paid passage
3 Fair: carnival
Edit: 4 Fair: aesthetically pleasing

Reply
Apr 29, 2014 10:12:59   #
beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
How is the system not fair, as it is? What do you mean by "fairer?"

Definitions of Fair
1 Fair: by the rules
2 Fair: paid passage
3 Fair: carnival
Edit: 4 Fair: aesthetically pleasing


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Reply
Apr 29, 2014 10:20:05   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
How is the system not fair, as it is? What do you mean by "fairer?"

Definitions of Fair
1 Fair: by the rules
2 Fair: paid passage
3 Fair: carnival
Edit: 4 Fair: aesthetically pleasing


I guess that I mean that more people could share in the wealth that there is.

The money changers take to much of the wealth for the role they play in the system.

Money that they take & give no real added value for. This leaves less for others. Some of whom could really use a little more.

Reply
Apr 29, 2014 10:41:13   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I guess that I mean that more people could share in the wealth that there is.

The money changers take to much of the wealth for the role they play in the system.

Money that they take & give no real added value for. This leaves less for others. Some of whom could really use a little more.


In your opinion.

As I see it, we are sharing in the wealth. Public buildings are air conditioned. No one had that a hundred years ago.

Stores can refrigerate fresh food that even poor people can buy. Didn't exist as a luxury a hundred years ago.

Automobiles can be acquired by even the destitute, they make better living arrangements than a bridge or a bush.

Today, more than ever before, we live in closer proximity rich and poor, both in luxuries attainable and living quarters.

These luxuries are spread by the rich, for their convenience, but it makes all our lives better.

Look around computers, cell phones, cars, public buildings, stores that sell just everything... We are the wealthiest society on Earth. And its for the convenience of people who are much richer than I. I don't mind.

But then, I don't think money is wealth...

Reply
 
 
Apr 29, 2014 10:51:07   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
We need to see that things could be better for many if the money moved through the system fairer.

Each of us plays a part in the system. we must guard our self from seeking to be of our material things rather than just being our self as a good person.

We do need to use the goods & services each of us is a part of producing. But we need to this better.

When we seek more material things than we truly need in effect we sell apart of our soul. At some point need becomes greed.

We need to improve our inter personal relations with others with out showing off all of our material things. We need to look for the simple things that make life good.

We can find many things in people just being friends & enjoying their company. A true friend enjoys another for just being a good friend.

We don't need to make our material things the center of what we do with each other.

I feel a growing interest on this forum that many would just like to be friends.

Is that not a good way to seek what changes we need to make the world a better place.

We may not really need to change much. It is just a matter of bringing to the forefront that which is already there.

If we wish to be & have the things we really need we may find we can change the way things are.

Buy looking away from making material things our God we may find that the power truly is in our hands & not in the money changers.
We need to see that things could be better for ma... (show quote)


I was taught by my parents to: Live simply so others may simply live. Our society has become greedy. Much of how people are judged depends upon the material things they possess.

If my small company can pay a fair wage, furnish insurance, and give profit sharing to the people who actually did the work, why can't the big corporations? If I stopped any one of these, I could raise my profits considerably. I make a good living not fantastic but good. I do not wish to succeed at the expense of others.

I have been blessed with employees who work very hard. However, I see in some a sense of entitlement. I will not reward the person who does not do his job by taking away from the person who does.

A few years back I was faced with a possible lay off. I called the bean counters that work for me. I could lay off some employees or cut hours back to 30. I called a meeting of all my employees. I explained we had an order which would make this a temporary situation. They v**ed to cut hours for two months so no one lost their job. When things picked up I gave all these wonderful people a raise. It was their choice and they chose to help each other. There are still people in this world that put their fellow man ahead of greed. You just don't hear about them.

Reply
Apr 29, 2014 11:01:14   #
Ve'hoe
 
Dont forget the free tv's free phones from the govt,, uhhh errr,,,,, the people who pay taxes so the po can have the material things they need,,,,,,,,,but do not appreciate,,,



Augustus Greatorex wrote:
In your opinion.

As I see it, we are sharing in the wealth. Public buildings are air conditioned. No one had that a hundred years ago.

Stores can refrigerate fresh food that even poor people can buy. Didn't exist as a luxury a hundred years ago.

Automobiles can be acquired by even the destitute, they make better living arrangements than a bridge or a bush.

Today, more than ever before, we live in closer proximity rich and poor, both in luxuries attainable and living quarters.

These luxuries are spread by the rich, for their convenience, but it makes all our lives better.

Look around computers, cell phones, cars, public buildings, stores that sell just everything... We are the wealthiest society on Earth. And its for the convenience of people who are much richer than I. I don't mind.

But then, I don't think money is wealth...
In your opinion. br br As I see it, we are sharin... (show quote)

Reply
Apr 29, 2014 11:24:46   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
That story is very encouraging. Sounds like you are picking the right
employees and they are picking the right company.

She Wolf wrote:
I was taught by my parents to: Live simply so others may simply live. Our society has become greedy. Much of how people are judged depends upon the material things they possess.

If my small company can pay a fair wage, furnish insurance, and give profit sharing to the people who actually did the work, why can't the big corporations? If I stopped any one of these, I could raise my profits considerably. I make a good living not fantastic but good. I do not wish to succeed at the expense of others.

I have been blessed with employees who work very hard. However, I see in some a sense of entitlement. I will not reward the person who does not do his job by taking away from the person who does.

A few years back I was faced with a possible lay off. I called the bean counters that work for me. I could lay off some employees or cut hours back to 30. I called a meeting of all my employees. I explained we had an order which would make this a temporary situation. They v**ed to cut hours for two months so no one lost their job. When things picked up I gave all these wonderful people a raise. It was their choice and they chose to help each other. There are still people in this world that put their fellow man ahead of greed. You just don't hear about them.
I was taught by my parents to: Live simply so oth... (show quote)

Reply
Apr 29, 2014 11:31:00   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
She Wolf wrote:
I was taught by my parents to: Live simply so others may simply live. Our society has become greedy. Much of how people are judged depends upon the material things they possess.

If my small company can pay a fair wage, furnish insurance, and give profit sharing to the people who actually did the work, why can't the big corporations? If I stopped any one of these, I could raise my profits considerably. I make a good living not fantastic but good. I do not wish to succeed at the expense of others.

I have been blessed with employees who work very hard. However, I see in some a sense of entitlement. I will not reward the person who does not do his job by taking away from the person who does.

A few years back I was faced with a possible lay off. I called the bean counters that work for me. I could lay off some employees or cut hours back to 30. I called a meeting of all my employees. I explained we had an order which would make this a temporary situation. They v**ed to cut hours for two months so no one lost their job. When things picked up I gave all these wonderful people a raise. It was their choice and they chose to help each other. There are still people in this world that put their fellow man ahead of greed. You just don't hear about them.
I was taught by my parents to: Live simply so oth... (show quote)


You actually mentioned why large corporations don't do as you do. I'll leave it to you to figure it out, you have all the pieces, you just need to put them together.

It is more meaningful, if you can see the issue for yourself. But the entire answer is within your post.

There are several distinctions between the large corporation and small company. 1 Decisions are made by a board, rather than the owner. 2 Management does not work as closely with the laborers. There are several supervisory positions between workers on the floor and the board. The board doesn't know who is working for them, personally. 3 Complaints flow up and down faster than affirmations, the larger the company, the bigger this issue becomes.

Reply
 
 
Apr 29, 2014 16:46:24   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
She Wolf wrote:
I was taught by my parents to: Live simply so others may simply live. Our society has become greedy. Much of how people are judged depends upon the material things they possess.

If my small company can pay a fair wage, furnish insurance, and give profit sharing to the people who actually did the work, why can't the big corporations? If I stopped any one of these, I could raise my profits considerably. I make a good living not fantastic but good. I do not wish to succeed at the expense of others.

I have been blessed with employees who work very hard. However, I see in some a sense of entitlement. I will not reward the person who does not do his job by taking away from the person who does.

A few years back I was faced with a possible lay off. I called the bean counters that work for me. I could lay off some employees or cut hours back to 30. I called a meeting of all my employees. I explained we had an order which would make this a temporary situation. They v**ed to cut hours for two months so no one lost their job. When things picked up I gave all these wonderful people a raise. It was their choice and they chose to help each other. There are still people in this world that put their fellow man ahead of greed. You just don't hear about them.
I was taught by my parents to: Live simply so oth... (show quote)


Well we truly need to hear more from & about these people.

Isn't it nice that you can look in a mirror & see a person you can like. I say that there are just not enough people that look at life as you do. You truly deserve all you have & more.

More that you surly will share with those that helped make it so. You truly meet your obligation to others.

Reply
Apr 30, 2014 09:11:28   #
skott Loc: Bama
 
We do live in a world where our economy is based on coveting possessions and greed. Any who really want to dispute that are blind. We do tax people and have others that do not pay taxes. What is the real alternative to that? Becoming a country where there are poor and super rich. Look at the other countries that have gone there and tell me that is the right direction. It is not. Our country had a growing middle class when unions were strong, we had a good manufacturing base, we taxed more progressively, and we had less stuff.

Reply
Apr 30, 2014 09:26:46   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
I never really cared to accumulate things. It always seemed to me the people who accumulate things end up being owned by their things.

My children often ask why I don't buy a new car. I don't need one. My car meets my needs. It gets me from point A to point B with a minimum of grief which is all I require. It doesn't use much gas and it doesn't pollute the air as much as some others.

I live in the house my Grandmother left me in her will. I don't need a bigger house. The neighborhood isn't what it once was but I choose to stay and fight to clean it up.

I would rather spend my money on the things that are important to me. Educating my children, putting more money into my company, and giving to the causes that are important to me are better uses of my money than keeping up with the neighbors.

Reply
Apr 30, 2014 09:29:19   #
skott Loc: Bama
 
She Wolf wrote:
I never really cared to accumulate things. It always seemed to me the people who accumulate things end up being owned by their things.

My children often ask why I don't buy a new car. I don't need one. My car meets my needs. It gets me from point A to point B with a minimum of grief which is all I require. It doesn't use much gas and it doesn't pollute the air as much as some others.

I live in the house my Grandmother left me in her will. I don't need a bigger house. The neighborhood isn't what it once was but I choose to stay and fight to clean it up.

I would rather spend my money on the things that are important to me. Educating my children, putting more money into my company, and giving to the causes that are important to me are better uses of my money than keeping up with the neighbors.
I never really cared to accumulate things. It alw... (show quote)


What kind of company?

Reply
Page 1 of 2 next>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main
OnePoliticalPlaza.com - Forum
Copyright 2012-2024 IDF International Technologies, Inc.