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Nov 16, 2018 00:09:12   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been charged under seal, prosecutors inadvertently revealed in a recently unsealed court filing — a development that could significantly advance the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 e******n and have major implications for those who publish government secrets.

https://www.washingtonpost.com
also, if you have time... read this https://www.rt.com/usa/444135-prosecute-assange-us-court/

This man holds keys..... but which ones will he give up and what doors will they unlock? Perhaps he will tell who gave him the Clinton files? Who he gave copies to? Will his testimony clear President Trump or add more fuel to the fire?

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Nov 16, 2018 00:19:03   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
It Could Blow-Up In Everyone's Face

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Nov 16, 2018 00:31:05   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
I suspect that it just might do exactly that. I suspect that someone working for Clinton gave him the files and that person just may be dead. I also do not think, as Assange has asserted, that Russia had anything to do with it. Then again, they may not even approach the email thing in favor of prosecuting him on the incident that is more than 10 years old, when he posted video of
the US Apache helicopter opening fire on Iraqi civilians.
karpenter wrote:
It Could Blow-Up In Everyone's Face

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Nov 16, 2018 01:59:46   #
JW
 
Pennylynn wrote:
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been charged under seal, prosecutors inadvertently revealed in a recently unsealed court filing — a development that could significantly advance the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 e******n and have major implications for those who publish government secrets.

https://www.washingtonpost.com
also, if you have time... read this https://www.rt.com/usa/444135-prosecute-assange-us-court/

This man holds keys..... but which ones will he give up and what doors will they unlock? Perhaps he will tell who gave him the Clinton files? Who he gave copies to? Will his testimony clear President Trump or add more fuel to the fire?
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been charged ... (show quote)



Charging him changes nothing. They still have to get him in custody. Until that happens, nothing will change. Then too, there will be the question of jurisdiction. By what authority does the USA claim legal jurisdiction over an Australian citizen in England, currently in asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy. There is also the question of freedom of the press. Like it or not, Assange can call himself a journalist.

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Nov 16, 2018 03:33:18   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
They've Kicked Down The Doors And Arrested A Head Of State
Daniel Noriega

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Nov 16, 2018 03:54:26   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Extradition treaty.....
JW wrote:
Charging him changes nothing. They still have to get him in custody. Until that happens, nothing will change. Then too, there will be the question of jurisdiction. By what authority does the USA claim legal jurisdiction over an Australian citizen in England, currently in asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy. There is also the question of freedom of the press. Like it or not, Assange can call himself a journalist.

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Nov 16, 2018 12:28:03   #
JW
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Extradition treaty.....


We don't have one with Ecuador, but that still doesn't settle the questions of jurisdiction or of press freedom.

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Nov 16, 2018 12:34:37   #
JW
 
karpenter wrote:
They've Kicked Down The Doors And Arrested A Head Of State
Daniel Noriega



Manuel Noriega... He was a former CIA operative. That status created jurisdiction.

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Nov 16, 2018 12:38:13   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Sorry, but we do.

These countries currently have no extradition treaty with the United States:

Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bosnia and
Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central, African Republic, Chad, Mainland China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan,Kosovo, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Macedonia, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu,
Vatican, Vietnam and Yemen.

JW wrote:
We don't have one with Ecuador, but that still doesn't settle the questions of jurisdiction or of press freedom.

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Nov 16, 2018 12:59:53   #
JW
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Sorry, but we do.

These countries currently have no extradition treaty with the United States:

Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bosnia and
Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central, African Republic, Chad, Mainland China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan,Kosovo, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Macedonia, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu,
Vatican, Vietnam and Yemen.
Sorry, but we do. br br These countries current... (show quote)


Publishing state secrets is not on the list of extraditable offenses. We have no treaty that covers what Assange has done.
http://www.mcnabbassociates.com/Ecuador%20International%20Extradition%20Treaty-Supplementary%20with%20the%20United%20States.pdf

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Nov 16, 2018 13:39:00   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
There is extradition for acts of theft or accessory to the act of theft. The contents of private documents can easily fit within this definition. Here is a link to the 1972 treaty: https://www.oas.org/juridico/mla/en/traites/en_traites-ext-usa-ecu.pdf

JW wrote:
Publishing state secrets is not on the list of extraditable offenses. We have no treaty that covers what Assange has done.
http://www.mcnabbassociates.com/Ecuador%20International%20Extradition%20Treaty-Supplementary%20with%20the%20United%20States.pdf

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Nov 16, 2018 14:32:46   #
Comment Loc: California
 
Pennylynn wrote:
There is extradition for acts of theft or accessory to the act of theft. The contents of private documents can easily fit within this definition. Here is a link to the 1972 treaty: https://www.oas.org/juridico/mla/en/traites/en_traites-ext-usa-ecu.pdf


The Prof. friend of Comey gave a news organization STOLEN FBI files and he was not charged. Comey was not charged. What is the Bull Durham? Only---All enemies of the Socialist Democratic party are to be punished by death and h*****g, or life on the inside? Only REPUBLICANS get charged (Trump and certain individuals of his order) [CLINTON & her sliders creep right out the door with $150,000 pensions & immunity]. Sounds like the Democrat have taken actions parallel to those of Glad Putin's Regime. I see the SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC PARTY following the N**I Brown Shirts and Proletariat of Russia.

Is it conceivable that Conservatives have already lost their part of the country? The Constitution has already been shredded. It sn't worth the paper it is written on. It has been considered a living Constitution for the past 70 years. A living Constitution is one which is rewritten by the SCOTUS at any time. The living Constitution started with A Democrat Pres. Woody Wilson, who favored a monarchial form of leadership for it was much more efficient than Democracy. His ideology was enhanced by FDR for another 16 yrs. My conclusions are based on manifestations of both presidents. if you want to verify my statement I beg you to drill deep down into it.

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Nov 16, 2018 15:21:07   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
I am not arguing that Assange should not or even should have been charged.
My interest is whether or not he can or will shed light on how he got the emails and if there is a a "Russian" connection. I want an end to the Mueller Witch Hunt. And this is the man who can provide a wealth of information. I would be fine with him being able to walk as a free man...instead of living inside a Consulate for too many years. I do not think he did anything that is more grievous than Snowdan. And Snowdan has not been charged for releasing classified military documents.

Comment wrote:
The Prof. friend of Comey gave a news organization STOLEN FBI files and he was not charged. Comey was not charged. What is the Bull Durham? Only---All enemies of the Socialist Democratic party are to be punished by death and h*****g, or life on the inside? Only REPUBLICANS get charged (Trump and certain individuals of his order) [CLINTON & her sliders creep right out the door with $150,000 pensions & immunity]. Sounds like the Democrat have taken actions parallel to those of Glad Putin's Regime. I see the SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC PARTY following the N**I Brown Shirts and Proletariat of Russia.

Is it conceivable that Conservatives have already lost their part of the country? The Constitution has already been shredded. It sn't worth the paper it is written on. It has been considered a living Constitution for the past 70 years. A living Constitution is one which is rewritten by the SCOTUS at any time. The living Constitution started with A Democrat Pres. Woody Wilson, who favored a monarchial form of leadership for it was much more efficient than Democracy. His ideology was enhanced by FDR for another 16 yrs. My conclusions are based on manifestations of both presidents. if you want to verify my statement I beg you to drill deep down into it.
The Prof. friend of Comey gave a news organization... (show quote)

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Nov 17, 2018 21:10:04   #
Gary Coop 44 Loc: Denver CO
 
This is A very good post , Hope to reed more of it !!s is
Pennylynn wrote:
I am not arguing that Assange should not or even should have been charged.
My interest is whether or not he can or will shed light on how he got the emails and if there is a a "Russian" connection. I want an end to the Mueller Witch Hunt. And this is the man who can provide a wealth of information. I would be fine with him being able to walk as a free man...instead of living inside a Consulate for too many years. I do not think he did anything that is more grievous than Snowdan. And Snowdan has not been charged for releasing classified military documents.
I am not arguing that Assange should not or even s... (show quote)

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Nov 17, 2018 22:25:36   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
As I get information, I will pass it on. I know that Mr. Assage is fighting extradition but is
willing to answer questions about Russia and the emails under oat at the Embassy. If I were handling the investigation and wanted the t***h, I will take him up on his offer... but, the CIA/FBI may have other issues and are uninterested in Russia or those published emails.

Gary Coop 44 wrote:
This is A very good post , Hope to reed more of it !!s is

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