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Nov 8, 2018 09:45:56   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-got-millions-more-v**es-120012119.html

The 2018 midterm e******ns brought significant gains for Democrats, who retook the House of Representatives and snatched several governorships from the grip of Republicans.
But some were left questioning why Democrats suffered a series of setbacks that prevented the party from picking up even more seats and, perhaps most consequentially, left the US Senate in Republican hands.
Among the most eye-catching was a statistic showing Democrats led Republicans by more than 12 million v**es in Senate races, and yet still suffered losses on the night and failed to win a majority of seats in the chamber.
The obvious discrepancy between v**es cast and seats won renewed some frustration on the left with an e*******l system they complained gives an advantage to conservative-leaning states.
The rise of minority rule in America is now unmistakableLaurence Tribe, Harvard professor
But constitutional law experts said more pressing concerns for Democrats could be found in a combination of gerrymandering and v**er suppression tactics that might have prevented them from winning an even larger majority in the House and some key statewide e******ns.
“The rise of minority rule in America is now unmistakable,” said Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law professor at Harvard University.
“Especially with a sitting president who won a majority in the e*******l college [in 2016] while receiving roughly 3m fewer v**es than his opponent, and a supreme court five of whose nine justices were nominated by Republican presidents who collectively received fewer popular v**es than their Democratic opponents and were confirmed by Senates similarly skewed.”
According to the latest data, Democrats won the House popular v**e by about seven percentage points in Tuesday night’s midterms.
They picked up 29 Republican-held seats in the House, while losing two of their own incumbents, resulting in a net gain of 27 seats. Republicans meanwhile won a larger majority in the Senate, picking up at least two seats as a handful of vulnerable Democrats faced defeat.
The mixed result undermined Democratic hopes of a blue wave in an e******n billed as a referendum on Donald Trump and his presidency. In the 2010 midterms, by contrast, Republicans stormed into control of the House with a haul of 63 seats.-----MORE---

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Nov 8, 2018 09:52:22   #
Liberty Tree
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-got-millions-more-v**es-120012119.html

The 2018 midterm e******ns brought significant gains for Democrats, who retook the House of Representatives and snatched several governorships from the grip of Republicans.
But some were left questioning why Democrats suffered a series of setbacks that prevented the party from picking up even more seats and, perhaps most consequentially, left the US Senate in Republican hands.
Among the most eye-catching was a statistic showing Democrats led Republicans by more than 12 million v**es in Senate races, and yet still suffered losses on the night and failed to win a majority of seats in the chamber.
The obvious discrepancy between v**es cast and seats won renewed some frustration on the left with an e*******l system they complained gives an advantage to conservative-leaning states.
The rise of minority rule in America is now unmistakableLaurence Tribe, Harvard professor
But constitutional law experts said more pressing concerns for Democrats could be found in a combination of gerrymandering and v**er suppression tactics that might have prevented them from winning an even larger majority in the House and some key statewide e******ns.
“The rise of minority rule in America is now unmistakable,” said Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law professor at Harvard University.
“Especially with a sitting president who won a majority in the e*******l college [in 2016] while receiving roughly 3m fewer v**es than his opponent, and a supreme court five of whose nine justices were nominated by Republican presidents who collectively received fewer popular v**es than their Democratic opponents and were confirmed by Senates similarly skewed.”
According to the latest data, Democrats won the House popular v**e by about seven percentage points in Tuesday night’s midterms.
They picked up 29 Republican-held seats in the House, while losing two of their own incumbents, resulting in a net gain of 27 seats. Republicans meanwhile won a larger majority in the Senate, picking up at least two seats as a handful of vulnerable Democrats faced defeat.
The mixed result undermined Democratic hopes of a blue wave in an e******n billed as a referendum on Donald Trump and his presidency. In the 2010 midterms, by contrast, Republicans stormed into control of the House with a haul of 63 seats.-----MORE---
https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-got-millions-... (show quote)


It worked they way the founders intended. It was to give a balance across the nation to prevent a few heavily populated areas from running the country.

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Nov 8, 2018 09:53:02   #
son of witless
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-got-millions-more-v**es-120012119.html

The 2018 midterm e******ns brought significant gains for Democrats, who retook the House of Representatives and snatched several governorships from the grip of Republicans.
But some were left questioning why Democrats suffered a series of setbacks that prevented the party from picking up even more seats and, perhaps most consequentially, left the US Senate in Republican hands.
Among the most eye-catching was a statistic showing Democrats led Republicans by more than 12 million v**es in Senate races, and yet still suffered losses on the night and failed to win a majority of seats in the chamber.
The obvious discrepancy between v**es cast and seats won renewed some frustration on the left with an e*******l system they complained gives an advantage to conservative-leaning states.
The rise of minority rule in America is now unmistakableLaurence Tribe, Harvard professor
But constitutional law experts said more pressing concerns for Democrats could be found in a combination of gerrymandering and v**er suppression tactics that might have prevented them from winning an even larger majority in the House and some key statewide e******ns.
“The rise of minority rule in America is now unmistakable,” said Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law professor at Harvard University.
“Especially with a sitting president who won a majority in the e*******l college [in 2016] while receiving roughly 3m fewer v**es than his opponent, and a supreme court five of whose nine justices were nominated by Republican presidents who collectively received fewer popular v**es than their Democratic opponents and were confirmed by Senates similarly skewed.”
According to the latest data, Democrats won the House popular v**e by about seven percentage points in Tuesday night’s midterms.
They picked up 29 Republican-held seats in the House, while losing two of their own incumbents, resulting in a net gain of 27 seats. Republicans meanwhile won a larger majority in the Senate, picking up at least two seats as a handful of vulnerable Democrats faced defeat.
The mixed result undermined Democratic hopes of a blue wave in an e******n billed as a referendum on Donald Trump and his presidency. In the 2010 midterms, by contrast, Republicans stormed into control of the House with a haul of 63 seats.-----MORE---
https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-got-millions-... (show quote)


I do not want to denigrate your victory in the House of Representatives because it is a big victory. However, you need to remember the Republican takeover of the House in Obama's first midterms. We on the Right were very angry with Boehner and his Republican colleagues because they failed to stop Obama and his agenda. You guys likely will have similar frustrations with Pelosi and company in their dealings with President Trump.

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Nov 8, 2018 10:02:16   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Bad Boob Job wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-got-millions-more-v**es-120012119.html

The 2018 midterm e******ns brought significant gains for Democrats, who retook the House of Representatives and snatched several governorships from the grip of Republicans.
But some were left questioning why Democrats suffered a series of setbacks that prevented the party from picking up even more seats and, perhaps most consequentially, left the US Senate in Republican hands.
Among the most eye-catching was a statistic showing Democrats led Republicans by more than 12 million v**es in Senate races, and yet still suffered losses on the night and failed to win a majority of seats in the chamber.
The obvious discrepancy between v**es cast and seats won renewed some frustration on the left with an e*******l system they complained gives an advantage to conservative-leaning states.
The rise of minority rule in America is now unmistakableLaurence Tribe, Harvard professor
But constitutional law experts said more pressing concerns for Democrats could be found in a combination of gerrymandering and v**er suppression tactics that might have prevented them from winning an even larger majority in the House and some key statewide e******ns.
“The rise of minority rule in America is now unmistakable,” said Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law professor at Harvard University.
“Especially with a sitting president who won a majority in the e*******l college [in 2016] while receiving roughly 3m fewer v**es than his opponent, and a supreme court five of whose nine justices were nominated by Republican presidents who collectively received fewer popular v**es than their Democratic opponents and were confirmed by Senates similarly skewed.”
According to the latest data, Democrats won the House popular v**e by about seven percentage points in Tuesday night’s midterms.
They picked up 29 Republican-held seats in the House, while losing two of their own incumbents, resulting in a net gain of 27 seats. Republicans meanwhile won a larger majority in the Senate, picking up at least two seats as a handful of vulnerable Democrats faced defeat.
The mixed result undermined Democratic hopes of a blue wave in an e******n billed as a referendum on Donald Trump and his presidency. In the 2010 midterms, by contrast, Republicans stormed into control of the House with a haul of 63 seats.-----MORE---
https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-got-millions-... (show quote)


You spooks need to pick better candidates.....................Boob .





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Nov 8, 2018 10:58:37   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
You spooks need to pick better candidates.....................Boob .


I'm going to chew on trump's ass.



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Nov 8, 2018 11:06:33   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Bad Boob Job wrote:
I'm going to chew on trump's ass.



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Nov 8, 2018 11:10:36   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Now I'm going to kick his fat ass.



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Nov 8, 2018 11:53:51   #
Airforceone
 
son of witless wrote:
I do not want to denigrate your victory in the House of Representatives because it is a big victory. However, you need to remember the Republican takeover of the House in Obama's first midterms. We on the Right were very angry with Boehner and his Republican colleagues because they failed to stop Obama and his agenda. You guys likely will have similar frustrations with Pelosi and company in their dealings with President Trump.


Again you show your lack of Knowledge Boehner got dumped by the Koch Brothers highjacking of the Tea Party. John Boehner was willing to work with Obama in the best interest of this country. The tea party wanted nothing to do with it. Reject anything That Obama was for and make him a one term president.

You forget the deal that was brokered between Obama and Boehner from Middle class tax cuts addressing cuts in Medicare on prescriptive drugs. You forget there deal brokered on DACA, to immigration reform, Shoring up our borders, combating c*****e c****e, tax loopholes, both parties were not happy but when Obama showed the democrats this deal brokered between Obama and Boehner that it would save the federal government $2 Trillion over 5 years the democrats agreed. But the tea party revolted and Boehner could not get it done with his tea party revolt.

Boehner made one mistake that he did not take these agreements to the floor for a v**e because he believed in his republican party but would not put all these bills up for a v**e unless he was able to get it passed with the majority of republicans so he he did not put it up for a v**e because of a dozen Koch Brother controlled tea party members.

Majority of democrats would have v**ed yes the Senate was already on board to v**e yes with more than a 60 v**e threshold.

Boehner and Obama spent 6 months working on bi partisan solution for our nation problems of give and take. When this happened and the Koch Brothers controlled Tea Party took to the streets and denigrated Boehner. That’s when Boehner had it and retired.

Boehner said of Obama upon retirement (OUR JOB AS ELECTED OFFICIALS) was to find common ground. Our government has liberals and conservative ( YOU HAVE TO FIND COMMON GROUND) Boehner only regret we that he did not take it to the floor for a v**e. had the support of some 180 Republican congressman and with an overwhelming support from democrats.

(NOTHING WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE TEA PARTY REPUBLICANS) when you have a bi partisan agreement that protected 99% of American people and you have a tea party that rejected anything and everything that might make Obama look good gets rejected by Republicans. Immigration reform, Deficit reduction, Medicare, Tax reform, job creation, DACA, healthcare, all rejected by the tea party then blame Obama for using the EO to fix our nation’s problems.

It’s people such as yourself that are h**e filled r****t and with a black president was against everything you believe in. Nothing else mattered and damm everything that made this country great.

And that’s exactly what Trump tapped into and it worked. This country rejected Trump when again we have a president that did not win the popular v**e and with Gerrymander, V**er suppression, , and v**er purge, Russian Propaganda we ended up with a d********g r****t piece of garbage that is nothing but a real Estate agent that went bankrupt 5 times.

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Nov 8, 2018 11:59:13   #
son of witless
 
Airforceone wrote:
Again you show your lack of Knowledge Boehner got dumped by the Koch Brothers highjacking of the Tea Party. John Boehner was willing to work with Obama in the best interest of this country. The tea party wanted nothing to do with it. Reject anything That Obama was for and make him a one term president.

You forget the deal that was brokered between Obama and Boehner from Middle class tax cuts addressing cuts in Medicare on prescriptive drugs. You forget there deal brokered on DACA, to immigration reform, Shoring up our borders, combating c*****e c****e, tax loopholes, both parties were not happy but when Obama showed the democrats this deal brokered between Obama and Boehner that it would save the federal government $2 Trillion over 5 years the democrats agreed. But the tea party revolted and Boehner could not get it done with his tea party revolt.

Boehner made one mistake that he did not take these agreements to the floor for a v**e because he believed in his republican party but would not put all these bills up for a v**e unless he was able to get it passed with the majority of republicans so he he did not put it up for a v**e because of a dozen Koch Brother controlled tea party members.

Majority of democrats would have v**ed yes the Senate was already on board to v**e yes with more than a 60 v**e threshold.

Boehner and Obama spent 6 months working on bi partisan solution for our nation problems of give and take. When this happened and the Koch Brothers controlled Tea Party took to the streets and denigrated Boehner. That’s when Boehner had it and retired.

Boehner said of Obama upon retirement (OUR JOB AS ELECTED OFFICIALS) was to find common ground. Our government has liberals and conservative ( YOU HAVE TO FIND COMMON GROUND) Boehner only regret we that he did not take it to the floor for a v**e. had the support of some 180 Republican congressman and with an overwhelming support from democrats.

(NOTHING WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE TEA PARTY REPUBLICANS) when you have a bi partisan agreement that protected 99% of American people and you have a tea party that rejected anything and everything that might make Obama look good gets rejected by Republicans. Immigration reform, Deficit reduction, Medicare, Tax reform, job creation, DACA, healthcare, all rejected by the tea party then blame Obama for using the EO to fix our nation’s problems.

It’s people such as yourself that are h**e filled r****t and with a black president was against everything you believe in. Nothing else mattered and damm everything that made this country great.

And that’s exactly what Trump tapped into and it worked. This country rejected Trump when again we have a president that did not win the popular v**e and with Gerrymander, V**er suppression, , and v**er purge, Russian Propaganda we ended up with a d********g r****t piece of garbage that is nothing but a real Estate agent that went bankrupt 5 times.
Again you show your lack of Knowledge Boehner got ... (show quote)


You talkin to me ? Is he talkin to me ? You may as well run now. We both know you cannot engage in a real conversation.

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Nov 8, 2018 13:05:46   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
Bad Bob wrote:
I'm going to chew on trump's ass.
He already got his shots, so he's good. Bring on the cray cray. We need to be entertained.

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Nov 8, 2018 13:37:25   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Airforceone wrote:
Again you show your lack of Knowledge Boehner got dumped by the Koch Brothers highjacking of the Tea Party. John Boehner was willing to work with Obama in the best interest of this country. The tea party wanted nothing to do with it. Reject anything That Obama was for and make him a one term president.

You forget the deal that was brokered between Obama and Boehner from Middle class tax cuts addressing cuts in Medicare on prescriptive drugs. You forget there deal brokered on DACA, to immigration reform, Shoring up our borders, combating c*****e c****e, tax loopholes, both parties were not happy but when Obama showed the democrats this deal brokered between Obama and Boehner that it would save the federal government $2 Trillion over 5 years the democrats agreed. But the tea party revolted and Boehner could not get it done with his tea party revolt.

Boehner made one mistake that he did not take these agreements to the floor for a v**e because he believed in his republican party but would not put all these bills up for a v**e unless he was able to get it passed with the majority of republicans so he he did not put it up for a v**e because of a dozen Koch Brother controlled tea party members.

Majority of democrats would have v**ed yes the Senate was already on board to v**e yes with more than a 60 v**e threshold.

Boehner and Obama spent 6 months working on bi partisan solution for our nation problems of give and take. When this happened and the Koch Brothers controlled Tea Party took to the streets and denigrated Boehner. That’s when Boehner had it and retired.

Boehner said of Obama upon retirement (OUR JOB AS ELECTED OFFICIALS) was to find common ground. Our government has liberals and conservative ( YOU HAVE TO FIND COMMON GROUND) Boehner only regret we that he did not take it to the floor for a v**e. had the support of some 180 Republican congressman and with an overwhelming support from democrats.

(NOTHING WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE TEA PARTY REPUBLICANS) when you have a bi partisan agreement that protected 99% of American people and you have a tea party that rejected anything and everything that might make Obama look good gets rejected by Republicans. Immigration reform, Deficit reduction, Medicare, Tax reform, job creation, DACA, healthcare, all rejected by the tea party then blame Obama for using the EO to fix our nation’s problems.

It’s people such as yourself that are h**e filled r****t and with a black president was against everything you believe in. Nothing else mattered and damm everything that made this country great.

And that’s exactly what Trump tapped into and it worked. This country rejected Trump when again we have a president that did not win the popular v**e and with Gerrymander, V**er suppression, , and v**er purge, Russian Propaganda we ended up with a d********g r****t piece of garbage that is nothing but a real Estate agent that went bankrupt 5 times.
Again you show your lack of Knowledge Boehner got ... (show quote)


You seem to be such an expert on everything political, econonomical, foreign relations, etc. Why don't you run for office, and save the world?
Just think, if you became President, you could take billions of dollars from people who didn't v**e the way you told them to!
That would show em! Hell, maybe you could even start executing them too!

Just imagine the possibilities!!

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Nov 8, 2018 14:02:03   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
son of witless wrote:
I do not want to denigrate your victory in the House of Representatives because it is a big victory. However, you need to remember the Republican takeover of the House in Obama's first midterms. We on the Right were very angry with Boehner and his Republican colleagues because they failed to stop Obama and his agenda. You guys likely will have similar frustrations with Pelosi and company in their dealings with President Trump.

Actually, 226 dems vs 198 Republicans is a paltry gain in the HOR. It sure as hell wasn't a "big victory". You might say it was a blue fart. Now, the inmates are running the asylum, it's gonna be one hell of a freak show.

The Republican gains in the senate are another matter altogether. We weeded out some RINOs and replaced them with some backbone.

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Nov 8, 2018 14:05:50   #
woodguru
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
It worked they way the founders intended. It was to give a balance across the nation to prevent a few heavily populated areas from running the country.


In actuality this is not what the founding fathers saw as the reason for the e*******l college, not at all, you are reading too much of current situation into what it was about back then. It was about giving an offset that benefited those who controlled government, so as not to lose that control to people who couldn't be trusted to control government. There were those among the founding fathers that didn't believe that people were smart enough to have control of what the government did. It was a safety designed to maintain control.

What isn't working as any founder intended is states that have less than 50% of the registered v**ers yet that minority has majorities and even super majorities that control their government and allow them to openly rig e******ns in a dozen ways. People, if their voice has any controlling interest will not allow their v**e to be negated or suppressed.

The right wants to call suppression all about preventing fraud, I entirely agree with v**er ID. The reality is that suppression doesn't do anything about people who are not eligible to v**e from not v****g. It is intentionally designed to keep the eligible from v****g, it's about making it harder for people who are eligible to v**e from v****g.

Statistically speaking, a state's government has to be an accurately represented reflection of the whole population, not a minority that has used power to rig the process so as to maintain control. We can't have majorities that are unsatisfied with a minority that tells them what they can or can't do. The majority will get fed up and win in the end one way or another. On the flip side, a minority of people who loses control to a majority is the natural order of things, minorities do not get to tell the majority of the people what they can and can't do.

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Nov 8, 2018 14:09:41   #
woodguru
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Actually, 226 dems vs 198 Republicans is a paltry gain in the HOR. It sure as hell wasn't a "big victory". You might say it was a blue fart. Now, the inmates are running the asylum, it's gonna be one hell of a freak show.

The Republican gains in the senate are another matter altogether. We weeded out some RINOs and replaced them with some backbone.


The ability to control investigations, to call people to answer and be held accountable is huge. The GOP has been running interference rather than doing the job of oversight they are supposed to be doing.

You think it's okay for a party to want everything done in secrecy to where people can't see for themselves what's going on? People who support secrecy and a lack of accountability are not patriots, they don't know what a patriot is.

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Nov 8, 2018 14:26:57   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
The ability to control investigations, to call people to answer and be held accountable is huge. The GOP has been running interference rather than doing the job of oversight they are supposed to be doing.

You think it's okay for a party to want everything done in secrecy to where people can't see for themselves what's going on? People who support secrecy and a lack of accountability are not patriots, they don't know what a patriot is.


Seriously dude? This crap went on in the last administration, and the one before that, and the one before that, and the one before that, all the way back to ole Woodrow. You're just now getting your tit in the wringer about it? This President, and the last one have to be the two most h**ed men alive! And, in my opinion, the last one was much, much worse than this one. The butthurt loss, and rabid hatred from your side is worse than anything I've seen in my lifetime.
I'll guarantee you, and bet you my retirement that if Trump had run, and won as a Democrat, you would have his back all the way!!

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