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Some New and Different Spiritual Ideas, of Relevance in This Time
Nov 5, 2018 23:18:35   #
paul987109 Loc: Oscoda
 
I have only posted on this site a handful of times. I post here excerpts from a book or two I have been “into” for many years, because they are very good, very interesting, and seem very relevant in this politically-heated time we live in. For those who feel that religion and other authority-based views of life have left you feeling empty, then the following may make a lot of sense.
However, they come from a “channeled,” non-physical entity--named Seth—a truly wise “spook,” whose depth of wisdom and insight transcends anything I have ever run across--by a mile--in all of my 62 years on this rock. Please give him a chance.
His main message: that man and woman are basically good; that there is a deeper purpose and meaning to life; and that the individual is “the creator of his destiny”--in quite literal terms. In my own humble opinion--they are the most important books humanity has ever produced.
My favorite Seth quote:

“All That Is (God) is the creator of individuality; not the means of its destruction.”
--Seth, from “Seth Speaks,” by Jane Roberts; pp. 363.


So now, I let Seth speak for himself:

From, “The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events,”
by Jane Roberts
Chapter 1
“It is not understood that before life an individual decides to live. A self is not simply the accidental personification of the body’s biological mechanism. Each person born desires to be born. He dies when that desire no longer operates. No epidemic or illness or natural disaster—or stray bullet from a murderer’s gun—will k**l a person who does not want to die (pg. 13).

From “The Nature of the Psyche”
By Jane Roberts
Chapter 11, Session 799
A dissertation on the nature of man, for your edification.
You realize that a tiger, following its nature, is not evil. Looking at your own species you are often less kindly, less compassionate, less understanding. It is easy to condemn your own kind.
It may be difficult for you to understand, but your species means well. You understand that the tiger exists in a certain environment, and reacts according to his nature. So does man. Even his atrocities are committed in a distorted attempt to reach what he considers good goals.
He fails often to achieve the goals, or even to understand how his very methods prevent their attainment.
He is indeed as blessed as the animals, however, and his failures are the results of his lack of understanding. He is directly faced with a far more complex conscious world than the other animals are, dealing particularly with symbols and ideas that are then projected outward into reality, where they are to be tested. If they could be tested mentally in your context, there would be no need for physical human existence.
One animal chasing and k*****g its prey serves the greater purpose of preserving the balance of nature, whether or not the animal is aware of this—and again, the animals intent is not evil. Man consumes ideas. In so doing he contributes to a different kind of balance, of which he is usually unaware. But no man truly acts out of pure intent to do wrong, or to vicious.
By concentrating too deeply upon the world of newspapers and the negative reports of man’s actions, it is truly easy to lose sight of what I tell you is each man’s and each woman’s basic good intent.
That intent may be confused, poorly executed, tangled amid conflicts of beliefs, strangled by the bloody hands of murders and wars—and yet no man or woman ever loses it. That represents the hope of the species, and it has ever remained lit, like a bright light within each member of the species; and that good intent is handed down through the generations.
It is imperative, for any peace of mind, that you believe in that existence of man’s innate good intent.
It is shared by all of the other animals. Each animal knows that under certain conditions the other may fight or posture aggressively, or defend its nest. Each animal knows that in time of hunger it might be hunted by another. Except for those situations, however, the animals are not afraid of each other. They know that each other animal is of good intent.
Grant your own species the same.

Excerpts from “Seth Speaks”
By Jane Roberts
Chapter 1
My readers suppose that they are physical creatures, bound within physical bodies, imprisoned within bone, flesh, and skin. …Basically you are no more of a physical being than I am, and I have donned and discarded more bodies than I care to tell. I am quite independent of a physical image, and so are you. 4.
Consciousness creates form. It is not the other way around. All personalities are not physical. It is only because you are so busily concerned with daily matters that you do not realize that there is a portion of you who knows that its own powers are far superior to those shown by the ordinary self. 4.
I hope to remind you of these. I do not speak so much to the part of you that you think of as yourself as to that part of you that you do not know, that you have to some extent denied and to some extent forgotten. That part of you reads this book, [even] as “you” read it. 5
I hope to remind you of these. I do not speak so much to the part of you that you think of as yourself as to that part of you that you do not know, that you have to some extent denied and to some extent forgotten. That part of you reads this book, [even] as “you” read it. 5
You have each lived other existences…and that knowledge is within you, though you are not consciously aware of it. I hope this book will serve to release the deeply intuitive self within each of my readers, and to bring to the foreground of consciousness wh**ever particular insights will serve you most. 4.
I am an energy personality essence, no longer focused in physical matter. As such, I am aware of some t***hs that many of you seem to have forgotten. 5
I speak to those who believe in a god, and those who do not, to those who believe that science will find all answers as to the nature of reality, and to those who do not. I hope to give you clues that will enable you to study the nature of reality for yourself as you have never studied it before. 5.
I am primarily a teacher, but I have not been a man of letters per se. I am primarily a personality with message: you create the world that you know.
You have been given perhaps the most awesome gift of all: the ability to project your thoughts outward into physical form. 6. [In prayer-like fashion].
The gift brings a responsibility, and many of you are tempted to congratulate yourselves on the successes of your lives, and blame God, fate, and society for your failures. In like manner, mankind has a tendency to project his own guilt and his own errors upon a father-god image, who it seems must grow weary of so many complaints.
The fact is that each of you creates your own physical reality; and en masse, you create both the glories and the terrors that exist within your earthly experience. Until you realize that you are the creators, you will refuse to accept this responsibility. You have grown sophisticated enough to realize that the devil is a projection of your own psyche, but you have not grown wise enough to use your creativity constructively. 7.
Most of my readers are familiar with the term, “muscle bound.” As a race you have grown “ego bound” instead, held in a spiritual rigidity, with the intuitive portions of the self either denied or distorted beyond any recognition. (SS, Chap. 1, pg. 8).
You may take a break or end the session as you prefer.

…Consciousness is a way of perceiving the various dimensions of reality. Consciousness as you know it is highly specialized. The physical senses allow you to perceive the three-dimensional world, and yet by their very nature they can inhibit the perception of other equally valid dimensions. 8.
Most of you identify with your daily physically oriented self. You would not think of identifying with one portion of your body and ignoring all other parts, and yet you are doing the same thing (smile) when you imagine that the egotistical self carries the burden of your identity.
…You are not a cosmic bag of bones and flesh, thrown together through some mixture of chemicals and elements. Your consciousness is not some fiery product, formed merely accidentally through the interworkings of chemical components. 8.
You are not a forsaken offshoot of physical matter, nor is your consciousness meant to vanish like a puff of smoke. Instead, you form the physical body that you know at a deeply unconscious level with great discrimination, miraculous clarity, and intimate unconscious knowledge of each minute cell that composes it. This is not meant symbolically. 8.

Now because your conscious mind, as you think of it, is not aware of these activities, you do not identify with this inner portion of yourselves. You prefer to identify with the part of you who watches television or cooks or works—the part you think knows what it is doing. But this seemingly unconscious portion of yourself is far more knowledgeable, and upon its smooth functioning your entire physical existence depends.
***This portion is conscious, aware, alert. It is you, so focused in physical reality, who do not listen to its voice, who do not understand that it is the great psychological strength from which your physically oriented self springs. 11.
I call this seemingly unconscious the “inner ego,” for it directs inner activities. It correlates information that is perceived not through the physical senses, but through other inner channels. It is the inner perceiver of reality that exists beyond the three-dimensional. It carries within it the memory of each of your past existences. It looks into subjective dimensions that are literally infinite, and from these subjective dimensions all objective realities flow. 11.
The “outer ego” and the inner ego operate together, the one to enable you to manipulate in the world that you know, the other to bring you those delicate inner perceptions without which physical existence could not be maintained. 11.
There is however a portion of you, the deeper identity who forms both the inner ego and the outer ego; who decided that you would be a physical being in this place and in this time. This is the core of your identity, the psychic seed from which you sprang, the multidimensional personality of which you are a part. 12. …The entity [or soul] is the overall identity of which [each reader’s] personality is one manifestation—an independent and eternally valid portion. (pg. 17).

…There are no limitations to the self. There are no limitations to its potentials. You can adopt artificial limitations through your own ignorance, however. You can identify, for example, with your outer ego alone, and cut yourself off from abilities that are a part of you. 14.
I do not mean to underestimate the outer ego. You have simply overestimated it. Nor has its true nature been recognized.
The ego is a jealous god, and it wants its interests served. It does not want to admit the reality of any dimensions except those within which it feels comfortable and can understand. It was meant to be an aid but it has been allowed to become a tyrant.
Even so, it is much more resilient and eager to learn than is generally supposed. It is not natively as rigid as it seems. Its curiosity can be of great value. 15.
If you have a limited conception of the nature of reality, then your ego will do its best to keep you in the small enclosed area of your accepted reality.
If, on the other hand, your intuitions and creative instincts are allowed freedom, then they communicate some knowledge of greater dimensions to this most-physically oriented portion of your personality. 15.

The Soul, or Multidimensional Self
[Man] says through his religions that he has a soul indeed, without ever asking what a soul is, and often he seems to regard it as an object in his possession. (“Seth Speaks,” pg. 74).
Many individuals imagine the soul to be an immortalized ego, forgetting that the ego as you know it is only a small portion of the self; so this section of the personality is simply projected onward, ad infinitum, so to speak. 74.
…Only a portion of your entire identity is ‘presently’ familiar to you… 203.
It is only because your present existence is so highly focused in one narrow area that you put such stern limits upon your definitions and the self… You worry for your physical identity and limit the extent of your perceptions for fear you cannot handle more and retain your selfhood. 83.
You think of the soul, therefore, in the light of erroneous conceptions that you hold regarding even the nature of your mortal selves. [And] even the mortal self, you see, is far more miraculous and wondrous than you perceive, and possesses far more abilities than you ascribe to it.
[So] while you hold limited concepts of your own reality, then you cannot practically take advantage of many abilities that are your own; and while you have a limited concept of the soul, then to some extent you cut yourself off from the source of your own being and creativity. 77.

Consciousness in All Things
There is no such thing as dead matter. There is no object that was not formed by consciousness, and each consciousness, regardless of its degree, rejoices in sensation and creativity. You cannot understand what you are unless you understand such matters. 14.
Now at times I will be using the term “camouf**ge,” referring to the physical world to which the outer ego relates, for physical form is one of the camouf**ges that reality adopts. The camouf**ge is real, and yet, there is a much greater reality within it—the vitality that gave it form. 15.
Your physical senses then allow you to perceive this camouf**ge, for they are attuned to it in a highly specialized manner. But to sense the reality within the form requires a different sort of attention and more delicate manipulations than the physical senses provide. 15.

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Nov 5, 2018 23:53:50   #
paul987109 Loc: Oscoda
 
This is a continuation of the above treatise of the Seth books, by Jane Roberts:


SIMPLE PRACTICES FOR
PSYCHOLOGICAL-SPIRITUAL EXPANSION

“Psychological Time”
This practice was first pioneered by the late, great Jane Roberts. “Psychological Time” is one of nine Soul Senses, or “inner senses” as Jane calls them, that we all possess now and will use fully after we pass on. In other words—they imply a concrete existence beyond the physical one, and we can learn to use these senses in this life; for practical or creative purposes. We can use them to access information that is normally inaccessible, from that spiritual realm from which our physical world originates. The idea here is to free our attention from what Jane calls worldly-based “assembly line time,” physical perception, and the rigidity of our usual, linear thought processes.

Sit in a comfortable chair, with back as close to vertical as possible, as comfort allows. Close your eyes, and take in a slow, deep breath, and exhale slowly...repeat several times. Relax all areas of your body, from head to toe. Put immediate concerns and thoughts out of mind, and heart, for now. If ordinary thoughts or worries arise, then go back to your breathing.

Now, think of the sensation of time, or duration—how it varies, depending on the situation; as in “having fun”, vs. being “moderately interested” vs. being “bored silly.” Ponder on the elasticity, or fluidity of time. Thoughts will arise, but for now, just let them go on, on their own. Focus on the sensation of “psychological time”. You may sense deeper, subtler emotional currents and eddies; feel their living energy, the “feeling tones” underlying the moment.

As your thoughts quiet and physical eye movements end (the smallest muscles in your body), you will begin to sense an intuitive calm at the point on the forehead, up and between the eyes, at what is known as the “third eye” or the seat of the imagination. Let go of control and the fear of wh**ever consequences, and just go with it. You may sense deeper, emotional currents and eddies; feelings of exhilaration, motion, joy, freedom; you may perceive subtle, dream-like images, sounds (e.g., thought-like whispers, or music), or, you may experience moments of insight, direction, or revelatory experiences.

You are learning to tap in consciously to that larger, unknown, 90-95% portion of the brain where our greater subjectivity lies, straddling the time-space medium. Jane calls this the “inner-conscious mind”, or the part of the soul that resides in the body. This sense seems to be a natural doorway to the other inner senses (see “The Seth Material”, Chap. 19).

“Inner Vibrational Touch”
Another “inner sense” is called Inner Vibrational Touch (IVT): “It is a stronger version of empathy, but far more direct and vital.” One imaginatively “projects” one's awareness into any living thing, and can sense or cognize the innate vitality of the individual, or even non-living things one has chosen. “Walking along on a typical street, with houses, grass and trees, one could feel the basic sensations felt by each of the trees about him.... any or all of the trees. He would feel the experience of being anything he chose within his field of notice: people, insects, blades of grass.” As Jane has said, “The inner senses are not important because they release clairvoyant or telepathic abilities; but because they reveal to us our own independence from physical matter.... we (can) begin to understand why we are here, individually and as a people.”

Three personal examples: at work one day, I went into the kitchen to pour myself some hot water, for coffee. The tea pot was on the stove, and we always kept it no more than half full, so it would heat fast. As I walked in, I suddenly felt a stream or tentacle of something come out of my belly and “connect” to the tea pot. It felt like my awareness reaching out, in a long, invisible arm—and I knew right then, or I “cognized”, that the tea pot was full. And it was.

Example 2: I'd been practicing Psy Time with IVT “projecting” my awareness out of my apartment to the woods, imaginatively encompassing the forest, and saying hello to the trees, bushes, shrubs, grass, air, and everything basically, as an introduction, etc. After months practicing, I was doing some things in my apartment when something invisibly “tugged” on my forehead, pulling it to look towards the living room, and out the window. I went out to sit in my chair. I started Psy Time practice, then tried reaching out using IVT. Within minutes, I started feeling the most glorious sensation, coming from the trees, bushes, shrubs, etc.! It was a warm, vital, heart-y sensation that I'd experienced a few times in meditation. Thereafter, I could go outside at any time, and reach out and sense the utter, ecstatic joy coming from the woods--it was true “communing” with nature!

Example 3: I’d been practicing Psy Time and IVT mainly for a while. I had tried projecting to my young nephew Myles when he was around 2 years old. One day at my brother’s house, I was sitting at the dinner table when I felt the same invisible tug on my head. When I turned around, Myles was on the floor, looking right up at me.

Expansion/Contraction of the Tissue Capsule

Seth refers to an invisible barrier around all individual consciousnesses which holds in our psychic energy, which can expand or contract in size, to any proportion. An example: I have a memory as a young child in his high chair, at the breakfast table. I wanted more cereal. I looked over at the counter and saw the cereal box. Suddenly I was there, on the counter, and looking up at a huge, building-sized box!

Example 2: While driving around one night on one of the country back roads, I stopped to get out and look at the stars. Laying on the car’s hood, I smoked some marijuana and relaxed back to take in the sight. Suddenly, my awareness went flying out of my body and I was instantly encompassing a large field of stars in the Milky Way galaxy. I touched each one in some manner, becoming aware of the angle of tilt of each star’s rotational axis. The perception was fleeting but vivid, and raises certain questions--like the speed of travel of such experiences, far faster than the speed of light, the speed limit of all radiant energies. Ex. 3: I had a similar, fleeting experience while gazing, pot intoxicated, at the rising smoke of my campfire.

There have been similar reports in the fields of science. German organic chemist Friedrich Kekule dreamt of a d**gon eating its own tail, and later figured out the circular nature of the benzene molecule. Another scientist, Nobel Prize winner Francis Crick, discovered the double helical nature of DNA, while high on LSD. These are examples of the mobility of consciousness, when momentarily freed from our ordinary world’s conceptual constraints, through various drugged and un-drugged altered states of consciousness.

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Nov 6, 2018 11:11:25   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
This information is NOT new, Paul.

This couple started receiving messages in 1963, fifty five (55) years ago, from a voice coming from a "spirit board," also known as a ouija board.

It came straight from the serpent in the Garden of Eden, who sold it to Eve.

1 John 4:1 "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world."


Ouija boards, also known as talking boards or spirit boards, are a tool/game that strikes fear and wonder in the hearts of many people. Almost everyone has heard stories of someone connecting with malevolent beings, aka, demonic entities, or of suffering unfortunate events following the use of a Ouija board.

The Ouija board is known as the Spirit board, and has been in use since at least the 19th century in America and rose in popularity with the interest in spiritualism – a belief that contradicts the Bible, by teaching that the dead can communicate with the living.

Leviticus 20:5-7 "I myself will set my face against him and his family and will cut them off from their people together with all who follow him in prostituting themselves to Molek. I will set my face against anyone who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute themselves by following them, and I will cut them off from their people. Consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am the LORD your God."

In late 1963, Jane Roberts and her husband, Robert Butts, experimented with a Ouija board as part of Roberts’ research for a book on extra-sensory perception.

According to Roberts and Butts, on December 2, 1963 they began to receive coherent messages from a male personality who eventually identified himself as Seth. Soon after, Roberts reported that she was hearing the messages in her head. She began to dictate the messages instead of utilizing the Ouija board, and the board was eventually abandoned.

For 21 years until Roberts’ death in 1984 (with a one-year hiatus due to her final illness), Roberts held regular sessions in which she went into a trance and purportedly spoke on behalf of the discarnate (bodyless) entity, who called himself Seth.

Butts served as stenographer, taking the messages down in homemade shorthand, although some sessions were recorded. These messages from the Seth personality, consisting mostly of monologues on a wide variety of topics, are collectively known as the “Seth Material” (sometimes referred to herein simply as the “Material”).

The Material through 1969 was published in summary form in The Seth Material, which was written by Roberts with substantial excerpts contributed from the "Seth personality."



paul987109 wrote:
This is a continuation of the above treatise of the Seth books, by Jane Roberts:


SIMPLE PRACTICES FOR
PSYCHOLOGICAL-SPIRITUAL EXPANSION

“Psychological Time”
This practice was first pioneered by the late, great Jane Roberts. “Psychological Time” is one of nine Soul Senses, or “inner senses” as Jane calls them, that we all possess now and will use fully after we pass on. In other words—they imply a concrete existence beyond the physical one, and we can learn to use these senses in this life; for practical or creative purposes. We can use them to access information that is normally inaccessible, from that spiritual realm from which our physical world originates. The idea here is to free our attention from what Jane calls worldly-based “assembly line time,” physical perception, and the rigidity of our usual, linear thought processes.

Sit in a comfortable chair, with back as close to vertical as possible, as comfort allows. Close your eyes, and take in a slow, deep breath, and exhale slowly...repeat several times. Relax all areas of your body, from head to toe. Put immediate concerns and thoughts out of mind, and heart, for now. If ordinary thoughts or worries arise, then go back to your breathing.

Now, think of the sensation of time, or duration—how it varies, depending on the situation; as in “having fun”, vs. being “moderately interested” vs. being “bored silly.” Ponder on the elasticity, or fluidity of time. Thoughts will arise, but for now, just let them go on, on their own. Focus on the sensation of “psychological time”. You may sense deeper, subtler emotional currents and eddies; feel their living energy, the “feeling tones” underlying the moment.

As your thoughts quiet and physical eye movements end (the smallest muscles in your body), you will begin to sense an intuitive calm at the point on the forehead, up and between the eyes, at what is known as the “third eye” or the seat of the imagination. Let go of control and the fear of wh**ever consequences, and just go with it. You may sense deeper, emotional currents and eddies; feelings of exhilaration, motion, joy, freedom; you may perceive subtle, dream-like images, sounds (e.g., thought-like whispers, or music), or, you may experience moments of insight, direction, or revelatory experiences.

You are learning to tap in consciously to that larger, unknown, 90-95% portion of the brain where our greater subjectivity lies, straddling the time-space medium. Jane calls this the “inner-conscious mind”, or the part of the soul that resides in the body. This sense seems to be a natural doorway to the other inner senses (see “The Seth Material”, Chap. 19).

“Inner Vibrational Touch”
Another “inner sense” is called Inner Vibrational Touch (IVT): “It is a stronger version of empathy, but far more direct and vital.” One imaginatively “projects” one's awareness into any living thing, and can sense or cognize the innate vitality of the individual, or even non-living things one has chosen. “Walking along on a typical street, with houses, grass and trees, one could feel the basic sensations felt by each of the trees about him.... any or all of the trees. He would feel the experience of being anything he chose within his field of notice: people, insects, blades of grass.” As Jane has said, “The inner senses are not important because they release clairvoyant or telepathic abilities; but because they reveal to us our own independence from physical matter.... we (can) begin to understand why we are here, individually and as a people.”

Three personal examples: at work one day, I went into the kitchen to pour myself some hot water, for coffee. The tea pot was on the stove, and we always kept it no more than half full, so it would heat fast. As I walked in, I suddenly felt a stream or tentacle of something come out of my belly and “connect” to the tea pot. It felt like my awareness reaching out, in a long, invisible arm—and I knew right then, or I “cognized”, that the tea pot was full. And it was.

Example 2: I'd been practicing Psy Time with IVT “projecting” my awareness out of my apartment to the woods, imaginatively encompassing the forest, and saying hello to the trees, bushes, shrubs, grass, air, and everything basically, as an introduction, etc. After months practicing, I was doing some things in my apartment when something invisibly “tugged” on my forehead, pulling it to look towards the living room, and out the window. I went out to sit in my chair. I started Psy Time practice, then tried reaching out using IVT. Within minutes, I started feeling the most glorious sensation, coming from the trees, bushes, shrubs, etc.! It was a warm, vital, heart-y sensation that I'd experienced a few times in meditation. Thereafter, I could go outside at any time, and reach out and sense the utter, ecstatic joy coming from the woods--it was true “communing” with nature!

Example 3: I’d been practicing Psy Time and IVT mainly for a while. I had tried projecting to my young nephew Myles when he was around 2 years old. One day at my brother’s house, I was sitting at the dinner table when I felt the same invisible tug on my head. When I turned around, Myles was on the floor, looking right up at me.

Expansion/Contraction of the Tissue Capsule

Seth refers to an invisible barrier around all individual consciousnesses which holds in our psychic energy, which can expand or contract in size, to any proportion. An example: I have a memory as a young child in his high chair, at the breakfast table. I wanted more cereal. I looked over at the counter and saw the cereal box. Suddenly I was there, on the counter, and looking up at a huge, building-sized box!

Example 2: While driving around one night on one of the country back roads, I stopped to get out and look at the stars. Laying on the car’s hood, I smoked some marijuana and relaxed back to take in the sight. Suddenly, my awareness went flying out of my body and I was instantly encompassing a large field of stars in the Milky Way galaxy. I touched each one in some manner, becoming aware of the angle of tilt of each star’s rotational axis. The perception was fleeting but vivid, and raises certain questions--like the speed of travel of such experiences, far faster than the speed of light, the speed limit of all radiant energies. Ex. 3: I had a similar, fleeting experience while gazing, pot intoxicated, at the rising smoke of my campfire.

There have been similar reports in the fields of science. German organic chemist Friedrich Kekule dreamt of a d**gon eating its own tail, and later figured out the circular nature of the benzene molecule. Another scientist, Nobel Prize winner Francis Crick, discovered the double helical nature of DNA, while high on LSD. These are examples of the mobility of consciousness, when momentarily freed from our ordinary world’s conceptual constraints, through various drugged and un-drugged altered states of consciousness.
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Nov 9, 2018 02:27:36   #
paul987109 Loc: Oscoda
 
You read her bio. i suppose I should be happy you got that far.

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Nov 9, 2018 02:28:27   #
paul987109 Loc: Oscoda
 
You read her bio. i suppose I should be happy you got that far.

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Nov 9, 2018 03:24:22   #
paul987109 Loc: Oscoda
 
And your New Testament ain't "new" either.

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Nov 9, 2018 10:07:13   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
1st, IMHO, no one should base their happiness on what someone unknown to them does or does not read.

To respond to a specific post, hit the "Quote Reply" key.

Otherwise, there is no clarity as to whom or which comment you are responding.




paul987109 wrote:
You read her bio. i suppose I should be happy you got that far.

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Nov 9, 2018 10:12:00   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
The New Testament, printed in combination with the Old Testament, as the Bible, is most definitively not new.

It is thousands of years old, and has, unfailingly, always been, since the inception of the printing press, the best selling book on earth.

There is a reason for that. It is the Word of God and it fulfills the spiritual longing within the human heart.



paul987109 wrote:
And your New Testament ain't "new" either.

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