It is very hard to hear t***h sometimes, especially when you have been inculcated since childhood to believe something different. I had a friend that at the young age of 14, stopped at a Rest Stop with his family for lunch. He saw a swarm of mosquitoes seeming to feed on some fruit bushes, and then they appeared to leave this snack for his family's flesh. To him, this proved the existence of Satan and solidified his faith to the day I met him, fifty years later. As he said, "If they can be sustained by fruit, only Satan in the world would make them human blood-suckers." Should I have told him that male mosquitoes do not suck blood, only the females feed on this exclusively? What harm or good could I expect? Of course, depending on anything but faith in our love of God, not imperative observations or anything else, is what Christ demands. Definition of faith in Hebrews 11:1: âNow faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.â Simply put, the biblical definition of faith is âtrusting in something you cannot explicitly prove.â Now to the topic.
Spoiler: "You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek,
turn to him the other also.â (Matthew 5:38) Why is the father taking an eye for an eye?
Does God really need to appease his wrath with a blood sacrifice in order to forgive us? If so, does this mean that the law of âan eye for an eye and a tooth for a toothâ is the ultimate description of Godâs character? And if this is true, what are we to make of Jesusâ teaching that this law is surpassed by the law of love? Not only this, but what are we to make of all the instances in the Bible where God forgives people without demanding a sacrifice (e.g. the prodigal son)?
If Godâs holiness requires that a sacrifice be made before he can fellowship with sinners, how did Jesus manage to hang out with sinners without a sacrifice, since he is as fully divine and as holy as God the Father?
If Jesusâ death allows God the Father to accept us, wouldnât it be more accurate to say that Jesus reconciles God to us than it is to say Jesus reconciles us to God? Yet the New Testament claims the latter and never the former (e.g. 2 Cor. 5:18-20). In fact, if God loves sinners and yet canât accept sinners without a sacrifice, wouldnât it be even more accurate to say that God reconciles God to himself than to say he reconciles us to God? But this is clearly an odd and unbiblical way of speaking.
How are we to understand one member of the Trinity (the Father) being wrathful towards another member of the Trinity (the Son), when they are, along with the Holy Spirit, one and the same God? Can God be truly angry with God? Can God actually punish God?
If God the father needs someone to âpay the priceâ for sin, does the Father ever really forgive anyone? Think about it. If you owe me a hundred dollars and I hold you to it unless someone pays me the owed sum, did I really forgive your debt? It seems not, especially since the very concept of forgiveness is about releasing a debt â not collecting it from someone else.
Are sin and guilt the sorts of things that can be literally t***sferred from one party to another? Related to this, how are we to conceive of the Father being angry towards Jesus and justly punishing him when he of course knew Jesus never did anything wrong?
If the just punishment for sin is eternal hell (as most Christians have traditionally believed), how does Jesusâ several hours of suffering and his short time in the grave pay for it?
If the main thing Jesus came to do was to appease the Fatherâs wrath by being slain by him for our sin, couldnât this have been accomplished just as easily when (say) Jesus was a one-year-old boy as when he was a thirty-three year old man? Were Jesusâ life, teachings, healing and deliverance ministry merely a prelude to the one really important thing he did â namely, die? It doesnât seem to me that the Gospels divide up and prioritize the various aspects of Jesusâ life in this way. (I maintain that everything Jesus did was about one thing â overcoming evil with love. Hence, every aspect of Jesus was centered on atonement â that is, reconciling us to God and freeing us from the devilâs oppression.)
To raise a more controversial question, if itâs true that Godâs wrath must be appeased by sacrificing his own Son, then donât we have to conclude that pagans who have throughout history sacrificed their children to appease the godsâ wrath had the right intuition, even if they expressed it in the wrong way?
What is the intrinsic connection between what Jesus did on the cross and how we actually live? The Penal Substitution view makes it seem like the real issue in need of resolution is a legal matter in the heavenly realms between Godâs holy wrath and our sin. Christâs death changes how God sees us, but this theory says nothing about how Christâs death changes us. This is particularly concerning to me because every study done on the subject has demonstrated that for the majority of Americans who believe in Jesus, their belief makes little or no impact on their life. I wonder if the dominance of this legal-t***saction view of the atonement might be partly responsible for this tragic state of affairs.
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