Sicilianthing

Why did so many t*****rs past and present allow this to continue?

Doctor Dave Loc: Madisonville, Tx.

The ill advised beaurocrats were allowed by us because we were stupid enough to elect them. We have not always hired the best or brightest.

Liberty Tree

It will end up before the SCOTUS.

Sicilianthing

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Yes that is part of the problem but it’s mostly the CFR and Tri Lateral Commissions who shape policy and then bamboozle the Stupid Mother Ph**kers in office whe betray us.

Sicilianthing

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F SCOTUS too... you have too much faith in that T*****r apparatus....

What side are you on ?

Preservation or Open Borders ?

I am sick n tired of this Bullcrap Bastard Baby Makers with no education and will never contribute anything to us...

Sick n Effing Tired of this Crap

Do you understand ?

If Trump screws this up or SCOTUS raises the BAR and betrays us we go to war, you want that ?

Betta

I took it to mean exactly what Sen Howard said. Some i***t somewhere terribly misinterpreted the 14th and allowed Rubio to run for POTUS. His parents came here from Cuba. They were not legal citizens when he was born here. It wasn't until he was about 6 years old when they became legal. To me that doesn't cover little marco which means he is STILL under the jurisdiction of Cuba. Neither of his parents are natural born. If I'm not mistaken at least one parent has to be a natural born citizen, some say both have to be natural born citizens. Neither of marco's parents are natural born making him eligible to run for POTUS and never should have been allowed to. I hold that little marco is an anchor baby and is here illegally.

Rubio pulled a "Sessions" and recused himself from his job as Florida Senator, v**ed in by his constituents. He then decided he was running for POTUS for which he is ineligible. He flipped his constituents his middle finger and told them he was too busy running for president to do his job as Florida Senator. He missed countless senate v**es, his job, and continued to receive a paycheck upwards of about $75,000 PLUS got $10,000 of NObamaCARE credits for which he is NOT entitled, to pay for his healthcare for him and his family. Just think of it. An American citizen somewhere who makes less than half of what Rubio makes, is helping Rubio pay for his healthcare. I find this outrageous.

Not to mention some little document that Rubio and others signed that makes their government positions a "small business", therefore allowing him and others to get the credits to pay for their healthcare premiums. There's a whole lot of devil in the details.

PeterS

Everyone knows that an EO can be used to cancel a constitutional amendment. Obama should have used one to void the second amendment...

PeterS

I have to ask, if that's what Howard intended with the 14th amendment why didn't he just say that?

Sicilianthing

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NOted and agreed, it’s just the tip of the iceberg, Cruz is in that same boat... not eligible.

Time to form a posse and make citizen Arrests with Citizen M*****as since U.S. Marshalls have been c*********d.

Isn’t it beautiful ? Can you see it coming into view ?

Muslims are also not eligible to run or hold offices see here:

Sicilianthing

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Peter get over it, the 2nd amendment will be the last pillar to fall by my dead cold hands...

We will be long in battle on Open Range by then.

You just don’t get it yet do you?

Sicilianthing

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He did say it, that’s why it’s written.

Who’s side are you on Peter ?

Are you about the Open Border Free For all ? The whole world should just keep coming here by the millions?

Wtf are you doing ?

Smedley_buzkill

The 14th was a restatement of the Civil Rights Act of 1866. "Subject to the jurisdiction" means not subject to the jurisdiction of a foreign power, i.e. you are a citizen of another country. Wetbacks cannot legally pay taxes or serve in the military. Simply being required to obey the law of the land while you are present in the land is not "subject to the jurisdiction" in the sense it was used in the 14th Amendment.
One. more. Time. If the 14th is to be construed as narrowly as you think, then Indians and diplomats' children would be automatic birth citizens of this country, yet diplomats are not, and Indians required the Indian Citizenship Act (56 years after the ratification of the 14th) to be counted as birth citizens.
Your inability to comprehend the nuances of the English language as spoken in the nineteenth century does not redefine the intent of the Amendment. Had you even bothered to read the entire thing you would have also discovered that the Amendment can be modified by Congress, and does not require a Constitutional Amendment.

Sicilianthing

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I just created a new Topic: 4minutes audio about this....

http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-144437-1.html

JoyV

Too bad this wording, or something similar, wasn't included in the amendment itself. The writers seemed to assume people would understand their intent. Unfortunately, it is the words themselves which is what is followed, not simply intent of the authors. The 14th will have to be repealed!!!!

"Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

JoyV

No it can't legally and constitutionally. But could stand until it were challenged in the courts. And you know it WILL be challenged. The use of Article V is probably the surest recourse; but would take time.