Patty

"The president’s view of spending, deficits and debt is not merely Keynesian theory run amok. Its origins and objectives are far more terrifying. Where the traditional Democratic playbook for economic downturns was provided by Keynes and first made policy by FDR, the Obama template comes straight from Saul Alinsky.

Alinsky, the father of “community organizing,” hails from the president’s Chicago and is revered by today’s fashionably l*****t university faculties. His 1971 Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals distills and updates Karl Marx’s Das Kapital for the 20th century, as a how-to manual for exploiting the darker corners of human nature. Alinsky repackaged such Marxian terms as “bourgoisie” and “proletariat” into 20th century American idiom as “Haves,” “Have Nots” and “Want Mores.”

More ominously, Alinsky advises identifying an “enemy” and elevating and manipulating “symbols” to better unite and direct the passions of the community to be ‘organized.’ Even worse, he addresses the central question of civil society – “do the ends justify the means?” – only in the context of “goal-setting.” Moral absolutes appear to have no place in his system, only controlling the political process matters without regard to the sanctity of the individual, the rule of law, and the rights of those who disagree.

In that context, the President’s own statements and economic policies compel some alarming conclusions. Namely, that bloated federal spending does not serve the classic Keynesian purpose – to ameliorate and ultimately end economic slumps inherent in free-market economies. Rather, it is an extension of Alinsky’s construct: to sharpen and exploit those downturns as means to achieve the objectives of the ‘organizer.’

Chronic deficits, massive increases in the national debt, and persistent joblessness are part of President Obama’s plan for the “t***sformation” of America. You read that right: they are not a problem, but rather necessities as part of a broader plan to make America conform to their notion of ‘fairness.’ That America will be much poorer overall and that a far greater percentage of her people dependent on the government, which is a success in their eyes.

Just what does the destruction of economic growth and opportunity “create” for Mr. Obama and his allies?"

petertimber

The very tools he uses such as INE******Y OF INCOME is the very same tool he employs to maintain his authority and control in order to communicate that authority. There are other tools and actions which he also employs.

http://freebeacon.com/columns/oligarchy-in-the-twenty-first-century.

Patty

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jasfourth401

As a republican, and fiscal conservative, I find this type of post utterly appalling. It shows a complete lack of understanding about where our annual deficit is headed (down) and the root causes of how the federal debt was accumulated. It is all on record. It isn't complicated. It is due to four line items in the federal balance sheet...and almost none of it is due to the current president. And until everyone begins to understand how we got here, and how to fix it, we continue to head down the road to oblivion. Blaming the wrong people and the wrong reason doesn't get us anywhere. Dealing with the blunt and factual data does. And it isn't pretty.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

:thumbup: :lol:

bdh1863q

I suppose the 9 trillion added to the debt under what's his name is OK with you. You are a liar. You are not a conservative.

Patty

What you should find is a basic economics book. Obama has added 5 trillion to our debt. He got a total bonus the first year when the TARP bailout money went on Bush's budget and the money paid back went in his column. There is also the little matter of 100 billion that Obama has promised to the IMF to boost SDR's. This admin is nothing but creative bean counters and anyone who believes the fairy tale numbers coming out of Washington is a fool. Here is a good example. Did you know that they can now count the inventory sitting on the shelves, in the back warehouse and in shipping warehouses as GDP now? That makes an enormous difference with just all the inventory Walmart has. Don't believe everything you read.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

"Don't believe everything you read".....in particular don't believe anything Pat posts. It's all twisted to discredit America and promote Russian propaganda lines. :( :-(

Patty

Why are you telling me not to believe myself?
"What a moroon. What an ignoranmous"
:lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo

jasfourth401

Your inability to add up simple numbers and assign it to the correct ledger entry is exactly why this country is doomed. This isn't a game. This is reality. I have no need to lie. I can read a budget. I can follow the money.

jasfourth401

There is no need to get a book. What is needed here is for you to get a grip. Tossing around the bogus statement "Obama has added $5 trillion" simply proves my point. I know exactly where that 5 trillion comes from. Do you? Do you understand the federal term "unfunded liabilities"? It's a nasty term governments use to categorize programs or line items they have no ability to pay. And only four of these unfunded liability items have added well over $10 trillion to our debt since 1996, the biggest being "carry forward interest". Add the $5.8 already on the books in 96 and you get to $16.4 trillion of the 17 currently owed.

This is simple math. No politics are involved. No books. No theories. Just cold hard numbers. Cash. Deficit spending. Simple ledger entries. No conspiracy theories. No end in sight as long as your type of argument clouds reality and the facts that drive this disaster.

Please stop reading and spouting fiction and start reviewing boring budget line items. It may not be as entertaining as your wild speculative theories, but it just might ground you in what is really going on.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

"Moroon" and "ignoranmous" yourself, Pat. I wasn't telling you...I was telling everyone else about you. Difficulty understanding basic spoken English, Pats? One wonders why. :XD: :XD: :XD:

Consult one of the other operatives before you post ignoranmously, sweetie. :idea: :hunf: :hunf:

CDM Loc: Florida

I agree we can't blame 80 years of fiscal irresponsibility on the guy in the hot seat at the moment, whenever you care to measure that moment. Americans don't want the t***h and they don't want the fixes. That notwithstanding Obama did say repeatedly he knew how to fix what is wrong. That was naive politics or purposeful deception, take your pick. When all is said and done he has aggravated the problem to at least the same extent as previous presidents by not addressing it.

Putting blame aside since it never cures anything, what would you suggest Obama do in the three or so years he has remaining to set the country on a corrective path?

emarine

Simple answer is take in more than you pay out..... a balanced budget, it's way past time the top pay up and everyone pays some.

jasfourth401

Obama could do a lot...but he won't. It is far too toxic an issue. But if he had a pair of you-know-whats, he'd throw this country a gut check and declare the practice of unfunded liabilities illegal.

My approach would be to attack the four big unfunded liabilities head on. First, I'd tell the department of defense to go find the $2.5 trillion in unfunded liabilities spent on the middle east wars and pay it back. It wasn't included in their annual budget requests. They spent it. Now they need to find how to repay it out of ongoing budget allocations.

Next, I'd toss the hot potato of the Bush era tax cuts back on congress. When that law passed, there was no provision to "pay back" the treasury with the lost $2 trillion in revenue. Well, this ain't no free lunch. That's like parking the new Lexus in the driveway and stiffing the loan company. Doesn't work in the real world...and it's time to claw back the lost revenue. I don't care if its tax hikes or program cuts. Time to even it out.

Next, this country needs a reality check with the third (and most dangerous) unfunded liability...Medicare Part D. It already runs a $3,000 per person yearly deficit, or $600 billion to date. And it is exploding to $100 billion every year by 2020. Rates must go up. Reimbursements to drug companies must come down.

Last, and most important, "carry forward interest", now running $400 billion every year...just to fund the interest on the debt. This has to stop. Now. And the only way to come to grips is try to slow it down. A yearly federal line item needs to be added to pay a portion of that bill...maybe 20% or $80 billion every year.

Obviously no one in that pathetic pile of DC bureaucrats will do anything. They want status quo. They want all of us to argue one way or the other about who is to blame. That's how they win. They get us to squabble about crumbs while they pick our pockets. And the best way to give them a wake up call is for someone, like a president with balls, to announce an across the board cut of 10% against every federal department. That would get their attention. Oh, and d**g every single one of them kicking and screaming into the benefit pool us regular slobs enjoy...like social security and "free market" healthcare. It's time for this country's leaders to walk in the shoes of its citizens. They need to feel what's it's like to live in the real world...and DC isn't it.

Thank you for asking and have a great weekend.