Airforceone

I cannot even begin to count the number of post by these Trump supporters and there h**e for Muslims and how they should all be deported from the US. Trump wants a ban on the murderous Muslims from entering this country. These same Trump supporters screamed like little children about Shria law and how it preaches k*****g of all Americans.

Well Donald Trump tonight while meeting with defense contractors on selling $108 billion dollars in guns to a country of 20 million Sunni Muslims in Saudi Arabia and country that lives by Shria law. Then President Trump said this country that is 100% Muslims and practice Shria law is a great Allie of the US.

15 of the 9/11 attackers are from Saudi Arabia.

When do these Trump supporters WTFU and look at what Trump is really doing.

Oh I forgot when the Saudis were questioned on the 15 Saudis that attacked this country they said it was Israeli’s that attacked the Twin Towers.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Makes sense to me.

Seth

So let's just invite all refugees from the Middle East into our country, no vetting, no nothing, and ignore what's been happening in Sweden, in England, in Germany. Why learn anything from others' travails, right?

No, none of that stuff could possibly happen here, and if it did, so what? At least we won't have offended anyone, and that's worth more than a few measly American lives...

How about we just don't gamble?

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

The 1952 Democrats law made it illegal for muslims to come to the Unites States. Don't blame the Republicans for abiding by the law of the land.

Airforceone

The right wing now loves the Sunni Muslims that practice Shria law. Because King Trump said there great Allies. Ya a great allie to Trump and Kushner the money that King Trump is making is in the millions of dollars.

They bought a full floor off Trump at his NY tower for $58 million right into King Trumps pocket. The Saudis visited his hotel in Washington and dropped $250,000 in one weekend. They loaned Kushner $380 million to bail him out of his NY high rise. I guess they are great for King Trump. Sell them Sunnis more guns they need them to k**l Americans.

MAGA King Trump

Airforceone

What the hell are you talking about your a refugee. These people are being Vetted. What a stupid comment. The vetting process has been in place for over 50 years. What is it with you people. I wished the hell this country spent more time vetting the ancestors of these GD evangelicals that hide there h**e for this country behide there bible. They preach h**e while hugging a bible.

Seth

The thousands of refugees Barack Hussein brought in came in en masse, no interval long enough to even get their middle name, and he had them "distributed" in large clumps to numerous American cities. I remember reading about that because Reno was one of them and I may be retiring there.

As for the Saudis, I'm the first to agree with you that they're not our friends, but on the same token they ARE useful to have as an ally for now because of the situation in the Middle East, and they need us as well, enough to keep 'em halfway honest.

See, when Obama went along, either cognizant of what he was doing or naive about it, with the "Arab Spring" myth, he opened some doors to some very dark places.

It actually began under Carter with the o*******w of Mohammed Riza Pahlavi, continued under Bush with the fall of Saddam Hussein, and in the "Arab Spring" continued with the ousters of Hosni Mubarak and Muammar Mohammad al-Qadhaffi.

These were all strongman dictators, for whom we in the west have little use.

However, what our politicians and diplomats fail to acknowledge, if they even think about it, is that until about a century ago, when we and France showed the Arabs how to recover their oil, the Arab world was, for all intents and purposes, still living in the 7th Century, while the west had evolved socially into the twentieth.

The Arab mindset and our mindset are like apples and oranges.

Most of those countries are veritable hotbeds of fundamentalism while the countries themselves, with the exceptions of Iran and a few others, had become a little more secular, such as Egypt, Libya, Iraq, etc. The fundamentalist factions are the fine folks we see cutting off heads, stoning women to death for not wearing a veil, amputating limbs as punishments and k*****g people for apostasy. These people are i**********n either waiting for the opportunity to present itself or rabble rousing in an effort to get a good, bloody revolution underway.

These "strongmen" prevent this, all to OUR good in the long run, by ruling with a heavy hand.This may not be to our liking, but in their world it is what it is.

Each time one of those strongmen has been removed, the vacuum created has provided the fundamentalists the opportunity to fill the void.

In Egypt, they did so through e******ns, a Muslim Brotherhood fundamentalist got in, and when they saw where he was trying to take the country the military stepped in.

When Obama pulled our troops out of Iraq, Islamic State had a place to incubate. When Obama helped oust Qadhaffi, ISIL moved in to fill the vacuum. Years earlier, in Iran, secular and U.S. friendly Pahlavi was replaced by Ayatollah Ruhallah Khomeini, and modern day's single most oppressive and regionally disruptive theocracy was born.

The Saudi royal family walks a very thin line, their fundamentalist population, as they are the guardians of Mecca, very large and very powerful, and they've seen first hand what the "Arab Spring" has wrought among their neighbors. That's why they allow their religious police and others a certain amount of authority; they want to avoid i**********n by their own extremist factions.

They also fear Iran's regional ambitions, so they need us. We need them as well, for now, for the foothold they give us in the region.

As for their culpability on 9/11, the royal family consists of hundreds of spoiled megarich ne'er do wells, many of whose sympathies lie with the extremist factions, while the core family leadership tends to prefer a cordial relationship with the west.

Since most terrorism today is committed in the name of Allah yet mere mention of any Islamic connection draws yells of "r****t! Islamophobe!," how is it any different that, because most of the AQ tangos of 9/11 were Saudis (even though the Saudis had kicked OBL out of the country and condemned AQ even before 9/11), it's acceptable to blame Saudi Arabia?

We are r****ts for blaming any Muslims for an attack claimed by Al Qaeda or Islamic State, but we're okay with blaming all Saudis for 9/11, which their government denounced.

I didn't hear a peep out of the Democratic Party or the MSM when Obama BOWED to the Saudi king, so I have to assume that all this outrage had more to do with it being Trump involved than anything else.

Can you say, "double standard?"

Airforceone

Dammwhere are these thousands of refugees that came into this country. You people will believe anything the Russians tell you. Don’t you understand what the hell is going on in this country right. You got an Autocrat in the White House that constantly lies and you people believe him. It’s a GD disgrace what you people believe. Besides why are you justifying this freak in the White House is it because Obama did it, do a little reseach before you post Russian stupidity.

Seth

My fine feathered friend, I have been in the security business for many years, and I've BEEN to some of those hellholes and seen things first hand that would make you start crying like a baby, after you got done having an "accident" in your skivvies.

I also have friends and colleagues, other security people, who are FROM or CURRENTLY LIVE IN Muslim countries over there, including some Muslims, who would say exactly what I'm typing now:

From the profound lack of anything other than mindless rhetoric completely lacking in any kind of information other than uninformed histerics, you are obviously one of those ill informed reactionaries that every propagandist wishes there were a lot more of.

Before spewing, you might first want to acquire some information to impart. I only say this because I h**e seeing a grown-up (you ARE a grown-up, right?) come off like a total cretin.

Airforceone

Well you sound intellectual sound but unfortunately you didn’t answer the question. Where are these thousands of refugees that just walked across the boarder. I have travel this world and saw what s**t holes really look like. So stop trying to act like you are some kind of brilliant POS that elected one of the biggest s**m artist that ever lived in this country.

So take your intellectual sound rhetoric and go support another Pedaphile.

You lack any kind of common sense.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Wow, there are no words. How does one reply to such ignorance?

Seth

It's tough. Really, really tough.

To quote a commenter at an old blog I used to visit, "Arguing with a liberal is like standing in a bucket and trying to pull yourself up by the handle."

never out of the woods

Having no identity,and no God, these people adopted the l*****t ideology as religion. To reliquish this would leave the empty shell that
All Godless consist of. Its a fragile structure they live in, so any attempt to reason them out of it is met with vehement denial and argument. Only God can restore their ability to see reality.

Justsss Loc: Wisconsin

Seth, Good one!