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Oct 20, 2018 01:08:36   #
EconomistDon
 
Airforceone wrote:
What direction are we headed in. Love for the Russia’s, Love for the North Koreans, love for the Saudis a country with 20 million Sunni Muslims that Trump is selling $108 billion in guns, I thought you Trump supporters h**ed Muslims. Spending this country deeper into debt to give Trump a $38 million tax break, giving the Upper 1% tax cuts that will cost this country $2.2 trillion unpaid for directly to the deficit.

Repealing the clean air and water act is that a good direction.

What the hell is wrong with you people
What direction are we headed in. Love for the Russ... (show quote)


OMG Airgun, you are a R****T! You deny others the freedom to love peoples of other nations. What's wrong with you? Do you not love anyone beyond your clique of white, English-speaking, l*****t friends? It's a big world out there, Airgun, you must learn to embrace it and live within it. You can't go on picking fights with people who are different from you, because you distrust them. Did you learn nothing from Ronald Reagan who communicated with Gorbachev as equals in good faith, and ended the Cold War with Russia? Or did you want to keep the Berlin wall in place and keep fighting with Russia and maybe even start WW3? Trump is doing what is necessary to make peace in the world, with Russia, North Korea, and any other nation that poses a threat. WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU HAVE AGAINST PEACE?

This country IS headed in the right direction with Trump. It's just sad that loser leftys are too h**eful to join the renaissance.

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Oct 20, 2018 01:15:16   #
debeda
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Russia is doing what Russia has done, and we have done for more years than I care to think about. North Korea is beginning to turn itself around and one day will be a society where freedom is taken for granted, just like the USA. Saudi... the deal to sell weapons was made before President Trump took office. And if they are so bad in your opinion, why did you not raise an alarm when obama sold them $115 billion dollars in weapons in 2016? As for me hating muslims... I do not thinks the US should become like their nations, when they move to take over nations.... that is where I see an issue. But, should they remain living in their own way in their own country, I have no problems with them. As for tax breaks.... I bet you were glad to receive yours. Lastly repealing complicated Federal regulations is a good thing, as it gives the state back their authority to manage their own resources.

Going back to the arms sell....The report from the Pentagon says U.S. arms offers to Saudi Arabia since Obama took office in January 2009 included everything from small arms and ammunition to tanks, attack helicopters, air-to-ground missiles, missile defense ships, and warships. Washington also provides maintenance and training to Saudi security forces. But, I do not recall you (in any of your personalities on OPP) complain.... why?



But, I thank you for your effort to rebuff my comment.
Russia is doing what Russia has done, and we have ... (show quote)


KaaaaaaaaBOOM Pennylynn!!! You DO have a way with words!!

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Oct 20, 2018 01:16:43   #
debeda
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
As the Civil War was coming to an end, and a Union victory was assured, president Lincoln turned his thoughts to peace. He appealed to those in his administration, his military officers, and to congress to help him find the most amiable way to bring the rebel states and their American citizens back into the fold, to restore the Union. At a social event, a wealthy old dowager admonished him for what she thought was a detestable friendliness toward the rebels. She told him he had lost his spine. "The rebs are your enemies," she said, "they must be destroyed." Lincoln smiled and said, "Madam, do I not destroy my enemies by making them my friends?"
As the Civil War was coming to an end, and a Union... (show quote)


Yes I remember hearing about that quote!! Thanks for the reminder

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Oct 20, 2018 05:28:55   #
fredlott63
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
As the Civil War was coming to an end, and a Union victory was assured, president Lincoln turned his thoughts to peace. He appealed to those in his administration, his military officers, and to congress to help him find the most amiable way to bring the rebel states and their American citizens back into the fold, to restore the Union. At a social event, a wealthy old dowager admonished him for what she thought was a detestable friendliness toward the rebels. She told him he had lost his spine. "The rebs are your enemies," she said, "they must be destroyed." Lincoln smiled and said, "Madam, do I not destroy my enemies by making them my friends?"
As the Civil War was coming to an end, and a Union... (show quote)


good reply

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Oct 20, 2018 05:30:57   #
Seth
 
It is precisely to be able to continue stifling the First Amendment rights of "certain" Americans that the left fought so hard to quell Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation and are opposed to Constitutionalist judges being confirmed to the 9th Circuit (thereby depriving many of us of the fun of continuing to call it the 9th Circus).

These l*****ts just can't get it into their heads that the First Amendment was meant to apply to ALL of us, even those of us who disagree with their vision for a liberal Utopia, and that no matter how many times they read the Bill of Rights, no matter how hard they search, they will not find a "right not to be offended."

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Oct 20, 2018 05:35:42   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
First, welcome to OPP. Second, your comment seems incomplete. Third, to whom are you addressing?

Seth wrote:
It is precisely to be able to continue stifling the First Amendment rights of people like

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Oct 20, 2018 05:43:38   #
Idaho
 
Crayons wrote:
For the Good people on this thread who need a break from this merry-go-round
try https://theconservativetreehouse.com/ ...and don't worry, they run a tight ship


Thank you for the link!

The MSM’s non-stop propaganda and agenda of h**e is so tiresome! Let’s be part of the red tsunami at the mid-terms.

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Oct 20, 2018 05:47:14   #
Seth
 
Pennylynn wrote:
First, welcome to OPP. Second, your comment seems incomplete. Third, to whom are you addressing?


Lol, you read my comment and replied while I was still typing it, I think. I don't know how it partially published.

Excellent post.

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Oct 20, 2018 05:53:37   #
Seth
 
Seth wrote:
Lol, you read my comment and replied while I was still typing it, I think. I don't know how it partially published.

Excellent post.


It is precisely to stifle the First Amendment rights of "certain" Americans that the left fought so hard to quell the Kavanaugh confirmation and are now opposed to confirming Constitutionalist judges to what has been heretofore known as the Ninth Circus.

They can't seem to grasp the fact that the amendment applies to all of us.

They can also search the Bill of Rights to their hearts' content and will not therein find a right not to be offended.

Excellent post.

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Oct 20, 2018 06:38:38   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
That is STRANGE.... even for me!
Seth wrote:
Lol, you read my comment and replied while I was still typing it, I think. I don't know how it partially published.

Excellent post.

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Oct 20, 2018 06:42:40   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Russia is doing what Russia has done, and we have done for more years than I care to think about. North Korea is beginning to turn itself around and one day will be a society where freedom is taken for granted, just like the USA. Saudi... the deal to sell weapons was made before President Trump took office. And if they are so bad in your opinion, why did you not raise an alarm when obama sold them $115 billion dollars in weapons in 2016? As for me hating muslims... I do not thinks the US should become like their nations, when they move to take over nations.... that is where I see an issue. But, should they remain living in their own way in their own country, I have no problems with them. As for tax breaks.... I bet you were glad to receive yours. Lastly repealing complicated Federal regulations is a good thing, as it gives the state back their authority to manage their own resources.

Going back to the arms sell....The report from the Pentagon says U.S. arms offers to Saudi Arabia since Obama took office in January 2009 included everything from small arms and ammunition to tanks, attack helicopters, air-to-ground missiles, missile defense ships, and warships. Washington also provides maintenance and training to Saudi security forces. But, I do not recall you (in any of your personalities on OPP) complain.... why?

But, I thank you for your effort to rebuff my comment.
Russia is doing what Russia has done, and we have ... (show quote)


Nothing was said about these sales because the money for these sales did not go into the governments accounts but into the Socialist Democrats slush fund to be distributed to their party leaders personal accounts.

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Oct 20, 2018 07:20:27   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Remember when L***Q activists told us that they did not care if we welcomed them, as long as we just left them alone? Now, the L***Q activists DEMAND that we welcome them and say they are doing what is right and holy. They demand that we change the Bible to celebrate their sexual behavior and teach in school that sex with anyone and anything is honorable if you feel like doing it.While this distortion of biology is part of the goal of c*******m, it is not the t***h and totally against God's word and the laws of nature for human beings. And don't tell me that because flatworms are both sexes, and bonobo monkey females have sex with all males in their tribe, we should do the same and celebrate that behavior.Posted Oct 17, 2018 by Michael L. Brown


On January 9, 2015, I wrote an article titled, “The Mayor of Atlanta Declares War on Religious Freedom.” Now, more than three-and-a-half years later, sanity has prevailed and religious freedoms have been preserved. Atlanta must pay up.

The case involved Fire Chief Kelvin Cochran, a man who had served the city of Atlanta for more than 30 years, working with distinction and without blemish. But when he self-published a 160 page book for use in his home church, gay activists rose up against him, demanding that he be fired.

What was his crime?

On his own time and on his own dime, he dared to write a book which contained a few lines – yes, just a few lines – speaking against homosexual practice. (And note that he spoke against other sexual sins as well, based on Scripture.)

According to Cochran, he did this with proper clearance from his authorities, even giving a copy to the mayor, who, Cochran claims, promised to read it.

But at the behest of L**T activists, Cochran was first suspended for 30 days without pay (seriously!), ordered to go to sensitivity training, then fired.

To add insult to the injury and madness to the circus, Mayor Kasim Reed then explained that Cochran was fired because, “We will not discriminate on the basis of race or g****r or religion or creed or sexual orientation or physical ability or g****r identity.”

This is a line to make George Orwell proud: “Because we will not discriminate based on religion, we are firing you because of your religious beliefs!”

Thankfully, sanity has prevailed and religious liberty has been preserved. As the Daily Wire reported, “Atlanta To Pay Out $1.2 Million To Christian Fire Chief After Violating His First Amendment Rights.”

The initial ruling in Cochran’s favor came back in December, 2017. Now, the city council “agreed to pay out $1.2 million to the former chief for damages and attorneys' fees.” (Cochran was represented by the ADF, which has been on the front lines of major religious freedoms victories in recent years.)

In the words of ADF attorney Kevin Ther**t, “The government can’t force its employees to get its permission before they engage in free speech. It also can’t fire them for exercising that First Amendment freedom, causing them to lose both their freedom and their livelihoods.”

Precisely so.

The outrage is that this happened in the first place. The outrage is that anyone thought they had the power or right to terminate Cochran for his biblically-based, religious beliefs. And remember: At no point was there a single charge of discrimination brought against him. In other words, he treated all his employees and colleagues in a proper and professional manner.

The issue was what he believed about homosexual practice. And the city of Atlanta had the gall to tell him, “If you hold to these beliefs and express these beliefs, you cannot work for us.”

To repeat: That is a Constitutional outrage.

But around the world, similar outrages are occurring.

Most recently, the Prime Minister of Australia, Scott Morrison, announced that new legislation would “make it clear that no student of a non-state school should be expelled on the basis of their sexuality.”

In other words, a Christian school (or, any religious school) in Australia cannot require its students to live by its moral and religious code.

This is beyond chilling, as once again, gay rights trump religious rights.

Thankfully, in America, there continues to be a pushback against the all-out attack on our First Amendment rights. Rights which are foundational to the well-being of our nation. Rights which have formed the very warp and woof of our country since our inception.

To lose those rights is to lose our freedoms. To lose those rights is to forfeit our liberty and descend into ever-increasing captivity and bondage.

But all is not lost, and Kelvin Cochran’s victory is a victory for us all.

And, the t***h be told, his victory is not an attack on those who identify as L**T. He should not have been fired in the first place, and the Bible says what is says. People can accept that or reject that by their own choice. Those are the freedoms we enjoy.

Back in 2003, I noted in one of my sermons that, “The heightened moral crisis in society, led especially by the homosexual agenda, . . . will produce a holy backlash.”

It’s taken a while, but as L**T activists continue to overplay their hand, that holy backlash has increased as well. May it abound and grow until sanity and freedom prevail across
the land
Remember when L***Q activists told us that they di... (show quote)



Thanks for posting this very well thought out lesson. I've said this before, the party that wants a president elected by popular v**e, or a majority of the people, want the sensitivities and rights of the very few to out weigh the rights of the vast majority. In 2017, Wikipedia stated that only 4.5% of American adults self-identified as L**T, but their rights seem to outweigh the other 96.5% of the population. This majority MUST put the rights of the L**T community above their own rights to free speech and religious freedom. That is to say, as Democrats, we want the majority to rule this issue, while we want the minority to rule this other issue, and we want to decide when and concerning what issues we want majority OR minority to rule. We want to choose whichever one suits our purpose. Doesn't it sound like a child?'We want what we want and we want it NOW!'

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Oct 20, 2018 08:55:12   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Seth wrote:
It is precisely to stifle the First Amendment rights of "certain" Americans that the left fought so hard to quell the Kavanaugh confirmation and are now opposed to confirming Constitutionalist judges to what has been heretofore known as the Ninth Circus.

They can't seem to grasp the fact that the amendment applies to all of us.

They can also search the Bill of Rights to their hearts' content and will not therein find a right not to be offended.

Excellent post.


Your comments are right on target. Glad you have joined us in the fight.

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Oct 20, 2018 09:01:35   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
debeda wrote:
What an EXCELLENT piece!!!! Thank you, thank you!!!


You are quite welcome. I have no problem with individual homosexuals who go around quietly living their lives not forcing their d*****t activities on the rest of us, claiming that God made them that way so we MUST celebrate their behavior and consider it honorable and holy.

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Oct 20, 2018 10:03:09   #
bahmer
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Remember when L***Q activists told us that they did not care if we welcomed them, as long as we just left them alone? Now, the L***Q activists DEMAND that we welcome them and say they are doing what is right and holy. They demand that we change the Bible to celebrate their sexual behavior and teach in school that sex with anyone and anything is honorable if you feel like doing it.While this distortion of biology is part of the goal of c*******m, it is not the t***h and totally against God's word and the laws of nature for human beings. And don't tell me that because flatworms are both sexes, and bonobo monkey females have sex with all males in their tribe, we should do the same and celebrate that behavior.Posted Oct 17, 2018 by Michael L. Brown


On January 9, 2015, I wrote an article titled, “The Mayor of Atlanta Declares War on Religious Freedom.” Now, more than three-and-a-half years later, sanity has prevailed and religious freedoms have been preserved. Atlanta must pay up.

The case involved Fire Chief Kelvin Cochran, a man who had served the city of Atlanta for more than 30 years, working with distinction and without blemish. But when he self-published a 160 page book for use in his home church, gay activists rose up against him, demanding that he be fired.

What was his crime?

On his own time and on his own dime, he dared to write a book which contained a few lines – yes, just a few lines – speaking against homosexual practice. (And note that he spoke against other sexual sins as well, based on Scripture.)

According to Cochran, he did this with proper clearance from his authorities, even giving a copy to the mayor, who, Cochran claims, promised to read it.

But at the behest of L**T activists, Cochran was first suspended for 30 days without pay (seriously!), ordered to go to sensitivity training, then fired.

To add insult to the injury and madness to the circus, Mayor Kasim Reed then explained that Cochran was fired because, “We will not discriminate on the basis of race or g****r or religion or creed or sexual orientation or physical ability or g****r identity.”

This is a line to make George Orwell proud: “Because we will not discriminate based on religion, we are firing you because of your religious beliefs!”

Thankfully, sanity has prevailed and religious liberty has been preserved. As the Daily Wire reported, “Atlanta To Pay Out $1.2 Million To Christian Fire Chief After Violating His First Amendment Rights.”

The initial ruling in Cochran’s favor came back in December, 2017. Now, the city council “agreed to pay out $1.2 million to the former chief for damages and attorneys' fees.” (Cochran was represented by the ADF, which has been on the front lines of major religious freedoms victories in recent years.)

In the words of ADF attorney Kevin Ther**t, “The government can’t force its employees to get its permission before they engage in free speech. It also can’t fire them for exercising that First Amendment freedom, causing them to lose both their freedom and their livelihoods.”

Precisely so.

The outrage is that this happened in the first place. The outrage is that anyone thought they had the power or right to terminate Cochran for his biblically-based, religious beliefs. And remember: At no point was there a single charge of discrimination brought against him. In other words, he treated all his employees and colleagues in a proper and professional manner.

The issue was what he believed about homosexual practice. And the city of Atlanta had the gall to tell him, “If you hold to these beliefs and express these beliefs, you cannot work for us.”

To repeat: That is a Constitutional outrage.

But around the world, similar outrages are occurring.

Most recently, the Prime Minister of Australia, Scott Morrison, announced that new legislation would “make it clear that no student of a non-state school should be expelled on the basis of their sexuality.”

In other words, a Christian school (or, any religious school) in Australia cannot require its students to live by its moral and religious code.

This is beyond chilling, as once again, gay rights trump religious rights.

Thankfully, in America, there continues to be a pushback against the all-out attack on our First Amendment rights. Rights which are foundational to the well-being of our nation. Rights which have formed the very warp and woof of our country since our inception.

To lose those rights is to lose our freedoms. To lose those rights is to forfeit our liberty and descend into ever-increasing captivity and bondage.

But all is not lost, and Kelvin Cochran’s victory is a victory for us all.

And, the t***h be told, his victory is not an attack on those who identify as L**T. He should not have been fired in the first place, and the Bible says what is says. People can accept that or reject that by their own choice. Those are the freedoms we enjoy.

Back in 2003, I noted in one of my sermons that, “The heightened moral crisis in society, led especially by the homosexual agenda, . . . will produce a holy backlash.”

It’s taken a while, but as L**T activists continue to overplay their hand, that holy backlash has increased as well. May it abound and grow until sanity and freedom prevail across
the land
Remember when L***Q activists told us that they di... (show quote)


Amen and Amen great for the good guys finally.

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