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Oct 17, 2018 11:25:02   #
Sicilianthing
 
plainlogic wrote:
T***h be told, YOU, have bought ALL the crap the Dems/liberal media has showered everyone with. YOU'RE in denial, most likely not your choice, but that's how manipulation is, they manipulate, you follow.


>>>>

Looks like you’ve mistaken me for someone else, I’m not Left, Dem or liberal, I’m Extreme Hard Hard Core Conservaitve Right, Right and then More Right.

IM nationalist
I’’m Constitutionalist verbatim not that sh*t you see SCOTUS wash over you
I’m Sovereign, you’re a s***e still

I know my rights you don’t

You’ve been brainwashed since k1, i’m Free I’ve gone through the awakening, you still need to experience it.

Good Luck, but stay in the fight.

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Oct 17, 2018 20:48:55   #
Radiance3
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>

I’ve posted it countless times.

The Economy is fragmenting
Whole sectors are shutting down
Stores are closing
Layoffs are pending
No ones income has really gone up to adjust for inflation which is totally out of control
The GDP report is a sham
The employment report is a Big Phat Ph**king LIE !
Bankruptcies are soaring
Shadow inventories are ballooning everywhere
The Foreclosures are rising as 7 and 10 year ARMS can not reset (do the math)
Housing unattainable
Homeless populations exploding in all cities
Credit card delinquencies, bills, loans all going into default and rising

You don’t know what you’re talking about ...

I can go on for pages to show you how bad things are getting, only a few sectors of the economy are insulated sorta and will make any real sustainable measures in 2018, 2019, 2020 and beyond.

There is NO Real REcovery from the 2008 meltdown, all the Wreckae and Toxic Assets from the past are coming back on line to be reckoned with.

The FED has sold you guys a Bill of Goods and the house of cards is coming down.
>>>> br br I’ve posted it countless t... (show quote)

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Sici, you really don't understand what has been going on. All you do is listen to Ana Von Riech
what she has been feeding you. Are you working at all for a living?

Here are the answers to your complaints.
Sici, where did you get all these CRAP of yours that are not supported by facts. Did Anna von Reich prepare them for you? They are all NON-SENSE!!

1.Economy fragmenting.
Ans. Fact: Economy is as solid as it is with companies creating more jobs and hiring sk**led people to maintain their operations. We have 4.12 million jobs available created by these different sectors. Where are the fragments there?

2. Whole sectors are shutting down?
Ans. Fact: You must be hallucinating; whole sectors are all in full force thus millions of jobs are created.

3. Stores are closing:
Ans. Okay the old-style stores operations have been abolished because new technology has emerged that are more efficient, productive. IT made this possible through on-line sales which have saved more money through efficient and fast process. it is more productive.

4. Layoff are pending?
Ans. Where? Those store that are closing? That is right their jobs are antiquated and are replaced by modern technologies that are cost effective and fast.

5. No one income has really gone up?
Ans. Did you know that income has gone up 10% compared to prior year-vs inflation of 2-3%?

6. GDP report has been a sham?
Ans. How did you figure that out? You don’t even know how that GDP came up. It is the Gross Domestic Product that went up to 4.2% compared to the average prior year- presidents of 1% to 2%.

7. Employment report Is Big Phat Ph ** LIE?
Ans. How come that most of the people except you are working? That is 96.3% of US households are working. Are you out of a job?

8. Bankruptcies are soaring?
Ans. Give me examples of bankrupt companies and how they got bankrupt? Only bankruptcies were during 2006-2009 when the Democrats required bank to lend to UNQUALIFIED home buyers, thus millions of them were not able to pay loans after a year. It is called the Sub-Prime lending when Fannie and Freddie have been lending to smaller banks to accommodate those Low income buyers are demanded by the democrats, or else they will be sued for discriminations.

9. Shadow inventories are ballooning everywhere
Ans. . Show me what kind of inventories are ballooning. You are just guessing creating false justification without specifics.

10. Homeless population are exploding in the cities.
Ans. You are counting those illegal hoodlums, drug addicts, dealers, and gays and drunks in San Francisco, California and inner cities of Chicago where violence have been the world’s highest due to the democrat administration for decades.

11. Credit card delinquencies and loans going default?
Ans. Not in this current economy where people have money to spend. Some irresponsible people spend more than they could afford thus credits are not sustainable. These are the democrat dependents and delinquents all the time.

No bank has reported bankruptcies except in 2008-2015, when bankruptcies were the highest due to the subprime loans provided by democrats in 2006-2008 to non-qualified home buyers.

Fact, there are 4.12 million jobs at present waiting to be filled up by qualified applicants.

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Oct 17, 2018 22:51:46   #
Sicilianthing
 
Radiance3 wrote:
=================
Sici, you really don't understand what has been going on. All you do is listen to Ana Von Riech
what she has been feeding you. Are you working at all for a living?

Here are the answers to your complaints.
Sici, where did you get all these CRAP of yours that are not supported by facts. Did Anna von Reich prepare them for you? They are all NON-SENSE!!

1.Economy fragmenting.
Ans. Fact: Economy is as solid as it is with companies creating more jobs and hiring sk**led people to maintain their operations. We have 4.12 million jobs available created by these different sectors. Where are the fragments there?

2. Whole sectors are shutting down?
Ans. Fact: You must be hallucinating; whole sectors are all in full force thus millions of jobs are created.

3. Stores are closing:
Ans. Okay the old-style stores operations have been abolished because new technology has emerged that are more efficient, productive. IT made this possible through on-line sales which have saved more money through efficient and fast process. it is more productive.

4. Layoff are pending?
Ans. Where? Those store that are closing? That is right their jobs are antiquated and are replaced by modern technologies that are cost effective and fast.

5. No one income has really gone up?
Ans. Did you know that income has gone up 10% compared to prior year-vs inflation of 2-3%?

6. GDP report has been a sham?
Ans. How did you figure that out? You don’t even know how that GDP came up. It is the Gross Domestic Product that went up to 4.2% compared to the average prior year- presidents of 1% to 2%.

7. Employment report Is Big Phat Ph ** LIE?
Ans. How come that most of the people except you are working? That is 96.3% of US households are working. Are you out of a job?

8. Bankruptcies are soaring?
Ans. Give me examples of bankrupt companies and how they got bankrupt? Only bankruptcies were during 2006-2009 when the Democrats required bank to lend to UNQUALIFIED home buyers, thus millions of them were not able to pay loans after a year. It is called the Sub-Prime lending when Fannie and Freddie have been lending to smaller banks to accommodate those Low income buyers are demanded by the democrats, or else they will be sued for discriminations.

9. Shadow inventories are ballooning everywhere
Ans. . Show me what kind of inventories are ballooning. You are just guessing creating false justification without specifics.

10. Homeless population are exploding in the cities.
Ans. You are counting those illegal hoodlums, drug addicts, dealers, and gays and drunks in San Francisco, California and inner cities of Chicago where violence have been the world’s highest due to the democrat administration for decades.

11. Credit card delinquencies and loans going default?
Ans. Not in this current economy where people have money to spend. Some irresponsible people spend more than they could afford thus credits are not sustainable. These are the democrat dependents and delinquents all the time.

No bank has reported bankruptcies except in 2008-2015, when bankruptcies were the highest due to the subprime loans provided by democrats in 2006-2008 to non-qualified home buyers.

Fact, there are 4.12 million jobs at present waiting to be filled up by qualified applicants.
================= br Sici, you really don't unders... (show quote)


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Do your own research, I’m OUT.
I’ve answered all these in countless posts since the beginning of the year
Maybe OPP should have an Economy section so we can post all this CRAP in there ?

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Oct 18, 2018 02:40:48   #
JoyV
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>

Wrong Answer, I just told you in my opening line... no matter what you think about Reich, the math doesn’t lie.

Go back and read it again and then comment on the math, don’t shoot the messenger.


You can't determine the effects of a complex variable system like our economy through math. There are too many changing factors, and other economies around the world impact our own as we impact them. So though math may nor lie, no one knows all the variables which would need to go into the calculations. Only general predictions are pretty safe to predict. Such as the law of supply and demand. Such as if taxes and regulations are high, businesses will suffer or relocate to where conditions are more favorable.

If it were snowing outside and the math calculated the day would be sunny and hot; would you wear a T shirt and shorts because you shouldn't believe your eyes over the math which never lies? Sounds like an educated i***t to me.

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Oct 18, 2018 02:56:44   #
JoyV
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>

I’ve posted it countless times.

The Economy is fragmenting
Whole sectors are shutting down
Stores are closing
Layoffs are pending
No ones income has really gone up to adjust for inflation which is totally out of control
The GDP report is a sham
The employment report is a Big Phat Ph**king LIE !
Bankruptcies are soaring
Shadow inventories are ballooning everywhere
The Foreclosures are rising as 7 and 10 year ARMS can not reset (do the math)
Housing unattainable
Homeless populations exploding in all cities
Credit card delinquencies, bills, loans all going into default and rising

You don’t know what you’re talking about ...

I can go on for pages to show you how bad things are getting, only a few sectors of the economy are insulated sorta and will make any real sustainable measures in 2018, 2019, 2020 and beyond.

There is NO Real REcovery from the 2008 meltdown, all the Wreckae and Toxic Assets from the past are coming back on line to be reckoned with.

The FED has sold you guys a Bill of Goods and the house of cards is coming down.
>>>> br br I’ve posted it countless t... (show quote)


That is not a math equation. Nor is it what most Americans are experiencing. At least not in places where the state governments have increased taxes to compensate for Trump's tax cut, and increased state regulations to compensate for his regulation reductions. In those states they are not experiencing an economic improvement. But in most of the country, we are doing better. Businesses which had previously closed are reopening or another business taking over the premises. Businesses which had been h*****g on by a thread are now hiring more employees, buying more trucks, or equipment, or what have you. Jobs are at a all time high. Even the environment is benefiting as even though the EPA has less funding and less regulations, that funding is being used to actually HELP the environment such as by toxic contamination areas being cleaned up instead of being left as they are to use them as political talking point weapons.

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Oct 18, 2018 11:22:28   #
Sicilianthing
 
JoyV wrote:
You can't determine the effects of a complex variable system like our economy through math. There are too many changing factors, and other economies around the world impact our own as we impact them. So though math may nor lie, no one knows all the variables which would need to go into the calculations. Only general predictions are pretty safe to predict. Such as the law of supply and demand. Such as if taxes and regulations are high, businesses will suffer or relocate to where conditions are more favorable.

If it were snowing outside and the math calculated the day would be sunny and hot; would you wear a T shirt and shorts because you shouldn't believe your eyes over the math which never lies? Sounds like an educated i***t to me.
You can't determine the effects of a complex varia... (show quote)


>>>>

That makes sense.

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Oct 18, 2018 11:25:31   #
Sicilianthing
 
JoyV wrote:
That is not a math equation. Nor is it what most Americans are experiencing. At least not in places where the state governments have increased taxes to compensate for Trump's tax cut, and increased state regulations to compensate for his regulation reductions. In those states they are not experiencing an economic improvement. But in most of the country, we are doing better. Businesses which had previously closed are reopening or another business taking over the premises. Businesses which had been h*****g on by a thread are now hiring more employees, buying more trucks, or equipment, or what have you. Jobs are at a all time high. Even the environment is benefiting as even though the EPA has less funding and less regulations, that funding is being used to actually HELP the environment such as by toxic contamination areas being cleaned up instead of being left as they are to use them as political talking point weapons.
That is not a math equation. Nor is it what most ... (show quote)


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I’m aware of some of this but like I said if I line up and visit 10 companies, only 1 has done the above
If I line 100 companies only 10 maybe have benefited
If I visit 1,000 companies in a year only a small % did this... say 10% or less

So you still have 90% of the economy and the true American bloodline suffers as more illegal ignorant trash floods into eviscerating the middle class.

So I”m only buying a part of your story.

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Oct 18, 2018 14:39:08   #
JoyV
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>

I’m aware of some of this but like I said if I line up and visit 10 companies, only 1 has done the above
If I line 100 companies only 10 maybe have benefited
If I visit 1,000 companies in a year only a small % did this... say 10% or less

So you still have 90% of the economy and the true American bloodline suffers as more illegal ignorant trash floods into eviscerating the middle class.

So I”m only buying a part of your story.


What types of companies? Were they finance sector, manufacturing sector, service related, insurance companies? And where are the jobs located? In a high tax state, low tax state, or average tax state?

If only 10% of companies are hiring, let alone increasing wages; then explain this.

STATE EMPLOYMENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT -- AUGUST 2018


Unemployment rates were lower in August in 13 states, higher in 3 states, and stable
in 34 states and the District of Columbia, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported
today. Eleven states had jobless rate decreases from a year earlier and 39 states and
the District had little or no change. The national unemployment rate was unchanged from
July at 3.9 percent but was 0.5 percentage point lower than in August 2017.

Nonfarm payroll employment increased in 4 states in August 2018 and was essentially
unchanged in 46 states and the District of Columbia. Over the year, 35 states added
nonfarm payroll jobs and 15 states and the District were essentially unchanged.

Unemployment

Hawaii had the lowest unemployment rate in August, 2.1 percent. The rates in Idaho
(2.8 percent), Oregon (3.8 percent), South Carolina (3.4 percent), and Washington (4.5
percent) set new series lows. (All state series begin in 1976.) Alaska had the highest
jobless rate, 6.7 percent. In total, 15 states had unemployment rates lower than the
U.S. figure of 3.9 percent, 9 states and the District of Columbia had higher rates, and
26 states had rates that were not appreciably different from that of the nation. (See
tables A and 1.)

In August, 13 states had unemployment rate decreases, the largest of which were in
Alaska, Michigan, North Carolina, and South Carolina (-0.2 percentage point each).
Three states had over-the-month rate increases: Maine (+0.2 percentage point) and
Colorado and Wyoming (+0.1 point each). The remaining 34 states and the District of
Columbia had jobless rates that were not notably different from those of a month
earlier, though some had changes that were at least as large numerically as the
significant changes. (See table B.)

Eleven states had unemployment rate changes from August 2017, all of which were
decreases. The largest decline occurred in New Mexico (-1.4 percentage points).
(See table C.)

Nonfarm Payroll Employment

Four states had over-the-month increases in nonfarm payroll employment in August 2018:
California (+44,800), Texas (+32,000), Arizona (+21,900), and Florida (+20,500). In
percentage terms, the largest increase occurred in Arizona (+0.8 percent), followed by
California and Texas (+0.3 percent each) and Florida (+0.2 percent). (See table 3.)

Thirty-five states had over-the-year increases in nonfarm payroll employment in August.
The largest job gains occurred in Texas (+394,500), California (+348,900), and Florida
(+220,200). The largest percentage gain occurred in Utah (+3.5 percent), followed by
Nevada and Washington (+3.3 percent each). (See table D.)


https://www.bls.gov/news.release/laus.nr0.htm

For the first time since the 50s there are more jobs than job seekers!

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Oct 18, 2018 15:47:28   #
Sicilianthing
 
JoyV wrote:
What types of companies? Were they finance sector, manufacturing sector, service related, insurance companies? And where are the jobs located? In a high tax state, low tax state, or average tax state?

If only 10% of companies are hiring, let alone increasing wages; then explain this.

STATE EMPLOYMENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT -- AUGUST 2018


Unemployment rates were lower in August in 13 states, higher in 3 states, and stable
in 34 states and the District of Columbia, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported
today. Eleven states had jobless rate decreases from a year earlier and 39 states and
the District had little or no change. The national unemployment rate was unchanged from
July at 3.9 percent but was 0.5 percentage point lower than in August 2017.

Nonfarm payroll employment increased in 4 states in August 2018 and was essentially
unchanged in 46 states and the District of Columbia. Over the year, 35 states added
nonfarm payroll jobs and 15 states and the District were essentially unchanged.

Unemployment

Hawaii had the lowest unemployment rate in August, 2.1 percent. The rates in Idaho
(2.8 percent), Oregon (3.8 percent), South Carolina (3.4 percent), and Washington (4.5
percent) set new series lows. (All state series begin in 1976.) Alaska had the highest
jobless rate, 6.7 percent. In total, 15 states had unemployment rates lower than the
U.S. figure of 3.9 percent, 9 states and the District of Columbia had higher rates, and
26 states had rates that were not appreciably different from that of the nation. (See
tables A and 1.)

In August, 13 states had unemployment rate decreases, the largest of which were in
Alaska, Michigan, North Carolina, and South Carolina (-0.2 percentage point each).
Three states had over-the-month rate increases: Maine (+0.2 percentage point) and
Colorado and Wyoming (+0.1 point each). The remaining 34 states and the District of
Columbia had jobless rates that were not notably different from those of a month
earlier, though some had changes that were at least as large numerically as the
significant changes. (See table B.)

Eleven states had unemployment rate changes from August 2017, all of which were
decreases. The largest decline occurred in New Mexico (-1.4 percentage points).
(See table C.)

Nonfarm Payroll Employment

Four states had over-the-month increases in nonfarm payroll employment in August 2018:
California (+44,800), Texas (+32,000), Arizona (+21,900), and Florida (+20,500). In
percentage terms, the largest increase occurred in Arizona (+0.8 percent), followed by
California and Texas (+0.3 percent each) and Florida (+0.2 percent). (See table 3.)

Thirty-five states had over-the-year increases in nonfarm payroll employment in August.
The largest job gains occurred in Texas (+394,500), California (+348,900), and Florida
(+220,200). The largest percentage gain occurred in Utah (+3.5 percent), followed by
Nevada and Washington (+3.3 percent each). (See table D.)


https://www.bls.gov/news.release/laus.nr0.htm

For the first time since the 50s there are more jobs than job seekers!
What types of companies? Were they finance sector... (show quote)


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My clients are from every industry and sector from A to Z, that’s it
The t***h
The fact
The reality...

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Oct 18, 2018 19:25:47   #
JoyV
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>

My clients are from every industry and sector from A to Z, that’s it
The t***h
The fact
The reality...


What sort of business has clients in every sector? And are you saying your own experience is more accurate in determining the state of our economy than the BLS?

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/laus.nr0.htm

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Oct 18, 2018 22:11:31   #
Sicilianthing
 
JoyV wrote:
What sort of business has clients in every sector? And are you saying your own experience is more accurate in determining the state of our economy than the BLS?

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/laus.nr0.htm


>>>>

OMG, are you seriously going to tell me you believe the Crap they publish?

Do you have any idea who and how the BLS was created ?

I’m out, I’m not going down this rabbit hole...

Let me think about it and I’ll see If I’m up to posting the Lies, Trickery and Deceit of the Data Collection methodologies.

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Oct 19, 2018 14:42:04   #
JoyV
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>

OMG, are you seriously going to tell me you believe the Crap they publish?

Do you have any idea who and how the BLS was created ?

I’m out, I’m not going down this rabbit hole...

Let me think about it and I’ll see If I’m up to posting the Lies, Trickery and Deceit of the Data Collection methodologies.


I notice that many on the left are pleased to use BLS stats when it supports their narrative.

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Oct 19, 2018 18:10:13   #
Sicilianthing
 
JoyV wrote:
I notice that many on the left are pleased to use BLS stats when it supports their narrative.


>>>>

Indeed but the Rino’s also use it when it benefits them in play...

It’s all cooked and now Trump is using the same Bulls**t

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