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Apr 23, 2014 03:27:49   #
trucksterbud
 
Everyone might want to wake up here. And of course across America. Hidden deep in the Affordable Care Act is a little known provision that is going to wake EVERYBODY UP, and I do mean everybody.

This monstrosity not only adds layers of jumbled up mumbo-jumbo that almost no one can figure out, it not only makes employers or individuals responsible for providing health insurance on an individual, it not only taxes (almost to death) the wealthy peoples plans with a 40% tax called the Cadillac tax, it not only makes not complying with this monstrosity a - TAX - so the ever so concerned agents of the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as the Internal Revenue Service can come after you and PENALIZE you for not having health insurance (one of the first things any socialist country did to ens***e the people), not only does it do a disservice to the country by FORCING supposedly free individuals to purchase a product - through a government exchange - thereby giving all your personal data to the metadata center of the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as UNITED STATES INCORPORATED - not only does it do all that, but buried deep in the regulations (not one a law) it - ALLOWS, EVEN MANDATES THAT ANY MONEY THE GOVERNMENT SPENT ON YOU VIA THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, WHILE YOU WERE ON MEDICARE, MEDICAID, GETTING A SUBSIDY FROM BIG BRO FOR YOUR FREE HEALTH INSURANCE - WILL (AND I REPEAT HERE) WILL BE TAKEN OUT OF YOUR ESTATE WHEN YOU DIE.

What this basically means is that ObamaCare now has the opportunity - by law and taxation - to remove any inheritance, any money you want to go to your kids, any property you had while alive, ANYTHING OF VALUE that can be seized to pay back what the "Government" spent on you to provide for your healthcare, they can do it, and there is nothing we the people can do.

This has the opportunity to create a whole new class of poverty stricken homeless people (namely your kids) as the "Government" can now not only go after your assets, they can go after your estate and your children's assets to pay off any balances that "THEY" feel you owe. This is already happening with the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as the Internal Revenue Service, the "Government" is now going after children of deceased individuals to rec**p back taxes. And the Democrats recently snuck through on the back of another bill a rider to change the original 8 years to now go back 12. So, in the end here, there is no avenue too sacred, no policy too C*******T, no way that could be considered too COLD HEARTED AND CRUEL to make sure and TAX us all out of existence.

My only question here is this: When do all the agents of the GESTAPO finally wake up and realize that they will be the targets of this too. When some other agent of the GESTAPO shows up on his or her doorstep and confiscates / seizes all their assets..??

A recent interview of a Democratic Senator (name withheld for a reason, but you can view it at www.InfoWars.com - along with several other pertinient videos) that he is so concerned about the devastating effects of the Affordable Care Act he stated in the interview that once the people of America find out the t***h, it may be the end of the Democratic party as we know it. And he is not the only one, there have been several individuals, some senators or representatives, that have voiced concerned about the collateral financial damage this is going to cause our society, and especially in the up and coming younger generations. We already live in a society where most if not all "trades" and "unsk**led" laborers are either temporary, or if not, have full time jobs that pay minimum wage with no benefits whatsoever.

So you see Americans, this community organizer who cries "R****t" over every objection to his socialist policies (engineered by George Soros), this community organizer who never had a job but is now President of the largest economy on the planet, this community organizer who never responds with common sense about why his policy is better than the other guys, this community organizer (and proven pot smoker from Hawaii) has - with the help of his SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC FRIENDS IN CONGRESS has begun the death knell to what was once a FREE SOCIETY and had some sembalence to prosperity for all - and started us down the road to TRUE SOCIALISM. This is one of the topics written about over and over again by seriously intelligent people, that in the economies of the European countries just before WWl and WWll, this is how both Joseph Stalin and Adolph Hitler STARTED their push for TOTALITARIAN CONTROL.

Take over the health care system, and require all to submit to big government / big brother.

We, the people fought wars in other countries to keep this from happening to them, yet our senators (Reid, Pelosi, Feinstein, King) and representatives have gone along with one of the biggest LIARS ever to step onto American soil, and this is why I for one can't stand O'bammy. He lies about everything at every turn, he has no spine, and he is ceretainly about totally ruining this country. If you don't believe it, just look at the foreign policy. You don't bomb citizens of another country, k*****g 53 to take out 5, k*****g 58 to take out 3 without consequences. You don't challenge the leader of another large country with f**e / falsified information just trying to make them look bad. All this stuff that this Administration is doing, is going to come back and SERIOUSLY bite America in the butt - long term. And you've (all you Bammy lovers) only got yourself to blame.

I'd appreciate it if you do your research before you try to bash me on this subject, especially you Cryin Brian, and get your head out of the Socialist Sewer. We were never meant to spend more on social programs than we make. At this point in time, for every working class citizen in the country right now, there are 4 unemployed / government workers bleeding that one individual. Even educated individuals are starting the alarm. We have too many free rides on the backs of the working class. We have a 221% rise in people denouncing their US Citizenship (s***e to the CORPORATION) than ever before.

Intelligent, prosperous individuals don't need a "Government" (fictitious and f**e foreign CORPORATION) to run / ruin our lives. Personally, I can manage quite well without all this "Government" interference.

And as a personal guarantee to all those who are employed by the fictitious CORPORATION wanting to control / ruin our lives - rest assured, your day will come too. When the cold-hearted cruel agents of the CORPORATION will show up on your doorstep and TAKE ALL YOU HAVE, TAKE ALL YOU HAVE WORKED FOR, AND TAKE ALL YOUR CHILDREN EVER HOPE TO HAVE.! That day is on the writing on the wall. So go ahead, enjoy your service to the puppetmaster, when your day comes, no one will cry for you and no one will help you. Because there will be no one left.

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Apr 23, 2014 06:14:00   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
trucksterbud wrote:
Everyone might want to wake up here. And of course across America. Hidden deep in the Affordable Care Act is a little known provision that is going to wake EVERYBODY UP, and I do mean everybody.

This monstrosity not only adds layers of jumbled up mumbo-jumbo that almost no one can figure out, it not only makes employers or individuals responsible for providing health insurance on an individual, it not only taxes (almost to death) the wealthy peoples plans with a 40% tax called the Cadillac tax, it not only makes not complying with this monstrosity a - TAX - so the ever so concerned agents of the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as the Internal Revenue Service can come after you and PENALIZE you for not having health insurance (one of the first things any socialist country did to ens***e the people), not only does it do a disservice to the country by FORCING supposedly free individuals to purchase a product - through a government exchange - thereby giving all your personal data to the metadata center of the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as UNITED STATES INCORPORATED - not only does it do all that, but buried deep in the regulations (not one a law) it - ALLOWS, EVEN MANDATES THAT ANY MONEY THE GOVERNMENT SPENT ON YOU VIA THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, WHILE YOU WERE ON MEDICARE, MEDICAID, GETTING A SUBSIDY FROM BIG BRO FOR YOUR FREE HEALTH INSURANCE - WILL (AND I REPEAT HERE) WILL BE TAKEN OUT OF YOUR ESTATE WHEN YOU DIE.

What this basically means is that ObamaCare now has the opportunity - by law and taxation - to remove any inheritance, any money you want to go to your kids, any property you had while alive, ANYTHING OF VALUE that can be seized to pay back what the "Government" spent on you to provide for your healthcare, they can do it, and there is nothing we the people can do.

This has the opportunity to create a whole new class of poverty stricken homeless people (namely your kids) as the "Government" can now not only go after your assets, they can go after your estate and your children's assets to pay off any balances that "THEY" feel you owe. This is already happening with the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as the Internal Revenue Service, the "Government" is now going after children of deceased individuals to rec**p back taxes. And the Democrats recently snuck through on the back of another bill a rider to change the original 8 years to now go back 12. So, in the end here, there is no avenue too sacred, no policy too C*******T, no way that could be considered too COLD HEARTED AND CRUEL to make sure and TAX us all out of existence.

My only question here is this: When do all the agents of the GESTAPO finally wake up and realize that they will be the targets of this too. When some other agent of the GESTAPO shows up on his or her doorstep and confiscates / seizes all their assets..??

A recent interview of a Democratic Senator (name withheld for a reason, but you can view it at www.InfoWars.com - along with several other pertinient videos) that he is so concerned about the devastating effects of the Affordable Care Act he stated in the interview that once the people of America find out the t***h, it may be the end of the Democratic party as we know it. And he is not the only one, there have been several individuals, some senators or representatives, that have voiced concerned about the collateral financial damage this is going to cause our society, and especially in the up and coming younger generations. We already live in a society where most if not all "trades" and "unsk**led" laborers are either temporary, or if not, have full time jobs that pay minimum wage with no benefits whatsoever.

So you see Americans, this community organizer who cries "R****t" over every objection to his socialist policies (engineered by George Soros), this community organizer who never had a job but is now President of the largest economy on the planet, this community organizer who never responds with common sense about why his policy is better than the other guys, this community organizer (and proven pot smoker from Hawaii) has - with the help of his SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC FRIENDS IN CONGRESS has begun the death knell to what was once a FREE SOCIETY and had some sembalence to prosperity for all - and started us down the road to TRUE SOCIALISM. This is one of the topics written about over and over again by seriously intelligent people, that in the economies of the European countries just before WWl and WWll, this is how both Joseph Stalin and Adolph Hitler STARTED their push for TOTALITARIAN CONTROL.

Take over the health care system, and require all to submit to big government / big brother.

We, the people fought wars in other countries to keep this from happening to them, yet our senators (Reid, Pelosi, Feinstein, King) and representatives have gone along with one of the biggest LIARS ever to step onto American soil, and this is why I for one can't stand O'bammy. He lies about everything at every turn, he has no spine, and he is ceretainly about totally ruining this country. If you don't believe it, just look at the foreign policy. You don't bomb citizens of another country, k*****g 53 to take out 5, k*****g 58 to take out 3 without consequences. You don't challenge the leader of another large country with f**e / falsified information just trying to make them look bad. All this stuff that this Administration is doing, is going to come back and SERIOUSLY bite America in r
the butt - long term. And you've (all you Bammy lovers) only got yourself to blame.

I'd appreciate it if you do your research before you try to bash me on this subject, especially you Cryin Brian, and get your head out of the Socialist Sewer. We were never meant to spend more on social programs than we make. At this point in time, for every working class citizen in the country right now, there are 4 unemployed / government workers bleeding that one individual. Even educated individuals are starting the alarm. We have too many free rides on the backs of the working class. We have a 221% rise in people denouncing their US Citizenship (s***e to the CORPORATION) than ever before.

Intelligent, prosperous individuals don't need a "Government" (fictitious and f**e foreign CORPORATION) to run / ruin our lives. Personally, I can manage quite well without all this "Government" interference.

And as a personal guarantee to all those who are employed by the fictitious CORPORATION wanting to control / ruin our lives - rest assured, your day will come too. When the cold-hearted cruel agents of the CORPORATION will show up on your doorstep and TAKE ALL YOU HAVE, TAKE ALL YOU HAVE WORKED FOR, AND TAKE ALL YOUR CHILDREN EVER HOPE TO HAVE.! That day is on the writing on the wall. So go ahead, enjoy your service to the puppetmaster, when your day comes, no one will cry for you and no one will help you. Because there will be no one left.
Everyone might want to wake up here. And of cours... (show quote)


I disagree with only one statement; "and you've (all you bammy lovers) only got yourself to blame." I believe the responsability for this rape rest squarly on the shoulders of millions of Americans who are too apathetic, too ignorant or just too stupid to rise up and do something about it.

As for the c*******ts here doing research before attacking you...surely you jest. C*******ts don't respond intelligently, they respond violently...facts have that effect on them.

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Apr 23, 2014 07:53:38   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Why doesn't the government tax all "entitlements" under the "Gift Tax Law"? Then everyone would have a little 'skin in the game"?

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Apr 23, 2014 08:03:49   #
Not-a-RINO Loc: Michigan
 
CDM wrote:
I disagree with only one statement; "and you've (all you bammy lovers) only got yourself to blame." I believe the responsability for this rape rest squarly on the shoulders of millions of Americans who are too apathetic, too ignorant or just too stupid to rise up and do something about it.

As for the c*******ts here doing research before attacking you...surely you jest. C*******ts don't respond intelligently, they respond violently...facts have that effect on them.


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Apr 23, 2014 08:43:38   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
trucksterbud wrote:
Everyone might want to wake up here. And of course across America. Hidden deep in the Affordable Care Act is a little known provision that is going to wake EVERYBODY UP, and I do mean everybody.

This monstrosity not only adds layers of jumbled up mumbo-jumbo that almost no one can figure out, it not only makes employers or individuals responsible for providing health insurance on an individual, it not only taxes (almost to death) the wealthy peoples plans with a 40% tax called the Cadillac tax, it not only makes not complying with this monstrosity a - TAX - so the ever so concerned agents of the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as the Internal Revenue Service can come after you and PENALIZE you for not having health insurance (one of the first things any socialist country did to ens***e the people), not only does it do a disservice to the country by FORCING supposedly free individuals to purchase a product - through a government exchange - thereby giving all your personal data to the metadata center of the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as UNITED STATES INCORPORATED - not only does it do all that, but buried deep in the regulations (not one a law) it - ALLOWS, EVEN MANDATES THAT ANY MONEY THE GOVERNMENT SPENT ON YOU VIA THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, WHILE YOU WERE ON MEDICARE, MEDICAID, GETTING A SUBSIDY FROM BIG BRO FOR YOUR FREE HEALTH INSURANCE - WILL (AND I REPEAT HERE) WILL BE TAKEN OUT OF YOUR ESTATE WHEN YOU DIE.

What this basically means is that ObamaCare now has the opportunity - by law and taxation - to remove any inheritance, any money you want to go to your kids, any property you had while alive, ANYTHING OF VALUE that can be seized to pay back what the "Government" spent on you to provide for your healthcare, they can do it, and there is nothing we the people can do.

This has the opportunity to create a whole new class of poverty stricken homeless people (namely your kids) as the "Government" can now not only go after your assets, they can go after your estate and your children's assets to pay off any balances that "THEY" feel you owe. This is already happening with the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as the Internal Revenue Service, the "Government" is now going after children of deceased individuals to rec**p back taxes. And the Democrats recently snuck through on the back of another bill a rider to change the original 8 years to now go back 12. So, in the end here, there is no avenue too sacred, no policy too C*******T, no way that could be considered too COLD HEARTED AND CRUEL to make sure and TAX us all out of existence.

My only question here is this: When do all the agents of the GESTAPO finally wake up and realize that they will be the targets of this too. When some other agent of the GESTAPO shows up on his or her doorstep and confiscates / seizes all their assets..??

A recent interview of a Democratic Senator (name withheld for a reason, but you can view it at www.InfoWars.com - along with several other pertinient videos) that he is so concerned about the devastating effects of the Affordable Care Act he stated in the interview that once the people of America find out the t***h, it may be the end of the Democratic party as we know it. And he is not the only one, there have been several individuals, some senators or representatives, that have voiced concerned about the collateral financial damage this is going to cause our society, and especially in the up and coming younger generations. We already live in a society where most if not all "trades" and "unsk**led" laborers are either temporary, or if not, have full time jobs that pay minimum wage with no benefits whatsoever.

So you see Americans, this community organizer who cries "R****t" over every objection to his socialist policies (engineered by George Soros), this community organizer who never had a job but is now President of the largest economy on the planet, this community organizer who never responds with common sense about why his policy is better than the other guys, this community organizer (and proven pot smoker from Hawaii) has - with the help of his SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC FRIENDS IN CONGRESS has begun the death knell to what was once a FREE SOCIETY and had some sembalence to prosperity for all - and started us down the road to TRUE SOCIALISM. This is one of the topics written about over and over again by seriously intelligent people, that in the economies of the European countries just before WWl and WWll, this is how both Joseph Stalin and Adolph Hitler STARTED their push for TOTALITARIAN CONTROL.

Take over the health care system, and require all to submit to big government / big brother.

We, the people fought wars in other countries to keep this from happening to them, yet our senators (Reid, Pelosi, Feinstein, King) and representatives have gone along with one of the biggest LIARS ever to step onto American soil, and this is why I for one can't stand O'bammy. He lies about everything at every turn, he has no spine, and he is ceretainly about totally ruining this country. If you don't believe it, just look at the foreign policy. You don't bomb citizens of another country, k*****g 53 to take out 5, k*****g 58 to take out 3 without consequences. You don't challenge the leader of another large country with f**e / falsified information just trying to make them look bad. All this stuff that this Administration is doing, is going to come back and SERIOUSLY bite America in the butt - long term. And you've (all you Bammy lovers) only got yourself to blame.

I'd appreciate it if you do your research before you try to bash me on this subject, especially you Cryin Brian, and get your head out of the Socialist Sewer. We were never meant to spend more on social programs than we make. At this point in time, for every working class citizen in the country right now, there are 4 unemployed / government workers bleeding that one individual. Even educated individuals are starting the alarm. We have too many free rides on the backs of the working class. We have a 221% rise in people denouncing their US Citizenship (s***e to the CORPORATION) than ever before.

Intelligent, prosperous individuals don't need a "Government" (fictitious and f**e foreign CORPORATION) to run / ruin our lives. Personally, I can manage quite well without all this "Government" interference.

And as a personal guarantee to all those who are employed by the fictitious CORPORATION wanting to control / ruin our lives - rest assured, your day will come too. When the cold-hearted cruel agents of the CORPORATION will show up on your doorstep and TAKE ALL YOU HAVE, TAKE ALL YOU HAVE WORKED FOR, AND TAKE ALL YOUR CHILDREN EVER HOPE TO HAVE.! That day is on the writing on the wall. So go ahead, enjoy your service to the puppetmaster, when your day comes, no one will cry for you and no one will help you. Because there will be no one left.
Everyone might want to wake up here. And of cours... (show quote)


Agree with you 100%.

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Apr 23, 2014 09:27:33   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Why doesn't the government tax all "entitlements" under the "Gift Tax Law"? Then everyone would have a little 'skin in the game"?


Gift taxes are paid by the giver of the gift, not the recipient.

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Apr 23, 2014 09:28:59   #
barberdawg Loc: Georgia
 
CDM wrote:
I disagree with only one statement; "and you've (all you bammy lovers) only got yourself to blame." I believe the responsability for this rape rest squarly on the shoulders of millions of Americans who are too apathetic, too ignorant or just too stupid to rise up and do something about it.

As for the c*******ts here doing research before attacking you...surely you jest. C*******ts don't respond intelligently, they respond violently...facts have that effect on them.


Well said

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Apr 23, 2014 09:57:01   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
barberdawg wrote:
Well said




This should be sent to everyone who might just pay attention. That would be about 53% of the population, more or less.

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Apr 23, 2014 13:03:57   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
Gift taxes are paid by the giver of the gift, not the recipient.


You are right. I should have said they should be taxed on unearned income.

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Apr 23, 2014 14:54:27   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
You are right. I should have said they should be taxed on unearned income.


I would agree with that, but I think it ends up costing more money to do so. In order words, if the government gives people money and then taxes them on it, why not just give them less to begin with and avoid all of the paperwork and tax prep fees? They would be paying taxes with taxpayer money! Some might say that that is exactly what is happening now without taxing it.

I agree with you, though, that taxing welfare benefits would, at least, create the illusion of "having skin in the game" if they paid taxes on it, and it could make them behave a little more responsibly. But then ... I'm not too fond of that kind of manipulation either. So...status quo. Sigh.

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Apr 24, 2014 08:44:52   #
Serenity54321
 
CDM wrote:
I disagree with only one statement; "and you've (all you bammy lovers) only got yourself to blame." I believe the responsability for this rape rest squarly on the shoulders of millions of Americans who are too apathetic, too ignorant or just too stupid to rise up and do something about it.

As for the c*******ts here doing research before attacking you...surely you jest. C*******ts don't respond intelligently, they respond violently...facts have that effect on them.


I wish I could understand the law when I read it. It has too many "according to 253e, 412b, etc. I have heard this argument before. While I can verify the Cadillac tax I can't verify that the IRS can tax children's estate. If indeed true, it will be the end of the Democratic Party. Can someone please provide where it says that? I've tried no luck.

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Apr 24, 2014 12:41:42   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Serenity54321 wrote:
I wish I could understand the law when I read it. It has too many "according to 253e, 412b, etc. I have heard this argument before. While I can verify the Cadillac tax I can't verify that the IRS can tax children's estate. If indeed true, it will be the end of the Democratic Party. Can someone please provide where it says that? I've tried no luck.


It was posted a few days ago, I think, on another thread, not this one. It was called something about all the unknown new Obama taxes inherent in the ACA.

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Apr 24, 2014 19:33:47   #
vernon
 
trucksterbud wrote:
Everyone might want to wake up here. And of course across America. Hidden deep in the Affordable Care Act is a little known provision that is going to wake EVERYBODY UP, and I do mean everybody.

This monstrosity not only adds layers of jumbled up mumbo-jumbo that almost no one can figure out, it not only makes employers or individuals responsible for providing health insurance on an individual, it not only taxes (almost to death) the wealthy peoples plans with a 40% tax called the Cadillac tax, it not only makes not complying with this monstrosity a - TAX - so the ever so concerned agents of the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as the Internal Revenue Service can come after you and PENALIZE you for not having health insurance (one of the first things any socialist country did to ens***e the people), not only does it do a disservice to the country by FORCING supposedly free individuals to purchase a product - through a government exchange - thereby giving all your personal data to the metadata center of the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as UNITED STATES INCORPORATED - not only does it do all that, but buried deep in the regulations (not one a law) it - ALLOWS, EVEN MANDATES THAT ANY MONEY THE GOVERNMENT SPENT ON YOU VIA THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, WHILE YOU WERE ON MEDICARE, MEDICAID, GETTING A SUBSIDY FROM BIG BRO FOR YOUR FREE HEALTH INSURANCE - WILL (AND I REPEAT HERE) WILL BE TAKEN OUT OF YOUR ESTATE WHEN YOU DIE.

What this basically means is that ObamaCare now has the opportunity - by law and taxation - to remove any inheritance, any money you want to go to your kids, any property you had while alive, ANYTHING OF VALUE that can be seized to pay back what the "Government" spent on you to provide for your healthcare, they can do it, and there is nothing we the people can do.

This has the opportunity to create a whole new class of poverty stricken homeless people (namely your kids) as the "Government" can now not only go after your assets, they can go after your estate and your children's assets to pay off any balances that "THEY" feel you owe. This is already happening with the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as the Internal Revenue Service, the "Government" is now going after children of deceased individuals to rec**p back taxes. And the Democrats recently snuck through on the back of another bill a rider to change the original 8 years to now go back 12. So, in the end here, there is no avenue too sacred, no policy too C*******T, no way that could be considered too COLD HEARTED AND CRUEL to make sure and TAX us all out of existence.

My only question here is this: When do all the agents of the GESTAPO finally wake up and realize that they will be the targets of this too. When some other agent of the GESTAPO shows up on his or her doorstep and confiscates / seizes all their assets..??

A recent interview of a Democratic Senator (name withheld for a reason, but you can view it at www.InfoWars.com - along with several other pertinient videos) that he is so concerned about the devastating effects of the Affordable Care Act he stated in the interview that once the people of America find out the t***h, it may be the end of the Democratic party as we know it. And he is not the only one, there have been several individuals, some senators or representatives, that have voiced concerned about the collateral financial damage this is going to cause our society, and especially in the up and coming younger generations. We already live in a society where most if not all "trades" and "unsk**led" laborers are either temporary, or if not, have full time jobs that pay minimum wage with no benefits whatsoever.

So you see Americans, this community organizer who cries "R****t" over every objection to his socialist policies (engineered by George Soros), this community organizer who never had a job but is now President of the largest economy on the planet, this community organizer who never responds with common sense about why his policy is better than the other guys, this community organizer (and proven pot smoker from Hawaii) has - with the help of his SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC FRIENDS IN CONGRESS has begun the death knell to what was once a FREE SOCIETY and had some sembalence to prosperity for all - and started us down the road to TRUE SOCIALISM. This is one of the topics written about over and over again by seriously intelligent people, that in the economies of the European countries just before WWl and WWll, this is how both Joseph Stalin and Adolph Hitler STARTED their push for TOTALITARIAN CONTROL.

Take over the health care system, and require all to submit to big government / big brother.

We, the people fought wars in other countries to keep this from happening to them, yet our senators (Reid, Pelosi, Feinstein, King) and representatives have gone along with one of the biggest LIARS ever to step onto American soil, and this is why I for one can't stand O'bammy. He lies about everything at every turn, he has no spine, and he is ceretainly about totally ruining this country. If you don't believe it, just look at the foreign policy. You don't bomb citizens of another country, k*****g 53 to take out 5, k*****g 58 to take out 3 without consequences. You don't challenge the leader of another large country with f**e / falsified information just trying to make them look bad. All this stuff that this Administration is doing, is going to come back and SERIOUSLY bite America in the butt - long term. And you've (all you Bammy lovers) only got yourself to blame.

I'd appreciate it if you do your research before you try to bash me on this subject, especially you Cryin Brian, and get your head out of the Socialist Sewer. We were never meant to spend more on social programs than we make. At this point in time, for every working class citizen in the country right now, there are 4 unemployed / government workers bleeding that one individual. Even educated individuals are starting the alarm. We have too many free rides on the backs of the working class. We have a 221% rise in people denouncing their US Citizenship (s***e to the CORPORATION) than ever before.

Intelligent, prosperous individuals don't need a "Government" (fictitious and f**e foreign CORPORATION) to run / ruin our lives. Personally, I can manage quite well without all this "Government" interference.

And as a personal guarantee to all those who are employed by the fictitious CORPORATION wanting to control / ruin our lives - rest assured, your day will come too. When the cold-hearted cruel agents of the CORPORATION will show up on your doorstep and TAKE ALL YOU HAVE, TAKE ALL YOU HAVE WORKED FOR, AND TAKE ALL YOUR CHILDREN EVER HOPE TO HAVE.! That day is on the writing on the wall. So go ahead, enjoy your service to the puppetmaster, when your day comes, no one will cry for you and no one will help you. Because there will be no one left.
Everyone might want to wake up here. And of cours... (show quote)


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Apr 25, 2014 12:56:58   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
Serenity54321 wrote:
I wish I could understand the law when I read it. It has too many "according to 253e, 412b, etc. I have heard this argument before. While I can verify the Cadillac tax I can't verify that the IRS can tax children's estate. If indeed true, it will be the end of the Democratic Party. Can someone please provide where it says that? I've tried no luck.


Re the issue about taxing a "children's estate." It is not the children (adult or not) who pay estate taxes. Estate taxes are collected from a person's estate no more than 9 months after death. There has been a federal law on the books since 1993 or 1994 that "requires" states to rec**p from the estates of people who receive Medicaid benefits the amount of the benefits received. Until recently, however, very few states (literally...only a few) have pursued such rec**pment because it was not economically feasible to do so, i.e. most people who receive Medicaid benefits don't have estates large enough to go after. The topic has been brought to the forefront recently by ACA opponents, who argue that such rec**pment from the estates of genuinely poor Medicaid recipients is unfair. The reality is that the IRS can't get blood out of a rock, so those who qualify for Medicaid don't really have much to worry about.

There has been an ongoing issue, however, regarding wealthy people who falsely impoverish themselves to qualify for Medicaid nursing home benefits. It happens more than the mainstream public knows. There's a whole legal sub-industry dev**ed to it. I hear an ad on the radio every day featuring a cheeky woman who tells listeners that they can qualify for Medicaid nursing home care even if they are wealthy (not in those exact words, of course). What I have been railing about for years is that those wealthy people have gotten away with gaming the system and taking advantage of legal loopholes to benefit from a welfare program intended for the poor. They hide millions in assets to pass on to their heirs while Medicaid pays their nursing home expenses. Over the past several years, more and more states are pursing Medicaid cost rec**pment in such cases.

Btw, every American can give away upon death up to $5 million to whomever they want with no estate or gift tax. Each year while they are alive, a person can gift up to $15,000 to as many people as they want without paying gift taxes (gifts in excess of that amount are supposed to be recorded and then subtracted from their $5 million exemption at time of death - doubtful how often that happens!) And if a couple prepares the proper legal documents, they can, combined, give away up to $10 million after they have both died. There's no limit on how much one can leave to one's spouse.

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Apr 25, 2014 13:03:28   #
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trucksterbud wrote:
Everyone might want to wake up here. And of course across America. Hidden deep in the Affordable Care Act is a little known provision that is going to wake EVERYBODY UP, and I do mean everybody.

This monstrosity not only adds layers of jumbled up mumbo-jumbo that almost no one can figure out, it not only makes employers or individuals responsible for providing health insurance on an individual, it not only taxes (almost to death) the wealthy peoples plans with a 40% tax called the Cadillac tax, it not only makes not complying with this monstrosity a - TAX - so the ever so concerned agents of the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as the Internal Revenue Service can come after you and PENALIZE you for not having health insurance (one of the first things any socialist country did to ens***e the people), not only does it do a disservice to the country by FORCING supposedly free individuals to purchase a product - through a government exchange - thereby giving all your personal data to the metadata center of the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as UNITED STATES INCORPORATED - not only does it do all that, but buried deep in the regulations (not one a law) it - ALLOWS, EVEN MANDATES THAT ANY MONEY THE GOVERNMENT SPENT ON YOU VIA THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, WHILE YOU WERE ON MEDICARE, MEDICAID, GETTING A SUBSIDY FROM BIG BRO FOR YOUR FREE HEALTH INSURANCE - WILL (AND I REPEAT HERE) WILL BE TAKEN OUT OF YOUR ESTATE WHEN YOU DIE.

What this basically means is that ObamaCare now has the opportunity - by law and taxation - to remove any inheritance, any money you want to go to your kids, any property you had while alive, ANYTHING OF VALUE that can be seized to pay back what the "Government" spent on you to provide for your healthcare, they can do it, and there is nothing we the people can do.

This has the opportunity to create a whole new class of poverty stricken homeless people (namely your kids) as the "Government" can now not only go after your assets, they can go after your estate and your children's assets to pay off any balances that "THEY" feel you owe. This is already happening with the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as the Internal Revenue Service, the "Government" is now going after children of deceased individuals to rec**p back taxes. And the Democrats recently snuck through on the back of another bill a rider to change the original 8 years to now go back 12. So, in the end here, there is no avenue too sacred, no policy too C*******T, no way that could be considered too COLD HEARTED AND CRUEL to make sure and TAX us all out of existence.

My only question here is this: When do all the agents of the GESTAPO finally wake up and realize that they will be the targets of this too. When some other agent of the GESTAPO shows up on his or her doorstep and confiscates / seizes all their assets..??

A recent interview of a Democratic Senator (name withheld for a reason, but you can view it at www.InfoWars.com - along with several other pertinient videos) that he is so concerned about the devastating effects of the Affordable Care Act he stated in the interview that once the people of America find out the t***h, it may be the end of the Democratic party as we know it. And he is not the only one, there have been several individuals, some senators or representatives, that have voiced concerned about the collateral financial damage this is going to cause our society, and especially in the up and coming younger generations. We already live in a society where most if not all "trades" and "unsk**led" laborers are either temporary, or if not, have full time jobs that pay minimum wage with no benefits whatsoever.

So you see Americans, this community organizer who cries "R****t" over every objection to his socialist policies (engineered by George Soros), this community organizer who never had a job but is now President of the largest economy on the planet, this community organizer who never responds with common sense about why his policy is better than the other guys, this community organizer (and proven pot smoker from Hawaii) has - with the help of his SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC FRIENDS IN CONGRESS has begun the death knell to what was once a FREE SOCIETY and had some sembalence to prosperity for all - and started us down the road to TRUE SOCIALISM. This is one of the topics written about over and over again by seriously intelligent people, that in the economies of the European countries just before WWl and WWll, this is how both Joseph Stalin and Adolph Hitler STARTED their push for TOTALITARIAN CONTROL.

Take over the health care system, and require all to submit to big government / big brother.

We, the people fought wars in other countries to keep this from happening to them, yet our senators (Reid, Pelosi, Feinstein, King) and representatives have gone along with one of the biggest LIARS ever to step onto American soil, and this is why I for one can't stand O'bammy. He lies about everything at every turn, he has no spine, and he is ceretainly about totally ruining this country. If you don't believe it, just look at the foreign policy. You don't bomb citizens of another country, k*****g 53 to take out 5, k*****g 58 to take out 3 without consequences. You don't challenge the leader of another large country with f**e / falsified information just trying to make them look bad. All this stuff that this Administration is doing, is going to come back and SERIOUSLY bite America in the butt - long term. And you've (all you Bammy lovers) only got yourself to blame.

I'd appreciate it if you do your research before you try to bash me on this subject, especially you Cryin Brian, and get your head out of the Socialist Sewer. We were never meant to spend more on social programs than we make. At this point in time, for every working class citizen in the country right now, there are 4 unemployed / government workers bleeding that one individual. Even educated individuals are starting the alarm. We have too many free rides on the backs of the working class. We have a 221% rise in people denouncing their US Citizenship (s***e to the CORPORATION) than ever before.

Intelligent, prosperous individuals don't need a "Government" (fictitious and f**e foreign CORPORATION) to run / ruin our lives. Personally, I can manage quite well without all this "Government" interference.

And as a personal guarantee to all those who are employed by the fictitious CORPORATION wanting to control / ruin our lives - rest assured, your day will come too. When the cold-hearted cruel agents of the CORPORATION will show up on your doorstep and TAKE ALL YOU HAVE, TAKE ALL YOU HAVE WORKED FOR, AND TAKE ALL YOUR CHILDREN EVER HOPE TO HAVE.! That day is on the writing on the wall. So go ahead, enjoy your service to the puppetmaster, when your day comes, no one will cry for you and no one will help you. Because there will be no one left.
Everyone might want to wake up here. And of cours... (show quote)


I'll leave most of your comments for others to comment about, but I am curious to know which countries you are referring to with your comment, "...agents of the FOREIGN GESTAPO known as the Internal Revenue Service can come after you and PENALIZE you for not having health insurance (one of the first things any socialist country did to ens***e the people). Care to share which socialist countries you are referring to? Cite a source? Thanks.

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