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Feb 22, 2019 07:44:20   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
The report on glaciers is showing the collateral damage caused by g****l w*****g, it is admitted in the science community that it is caused by the input of man-made f****l f**l output. In reality, c*****e c****e is not the issue, g****l w*****g is, lets not continue on that disingenuous diversion of the t***h.


It is NOT admitted, and more and more are now reversing their initial take on it and seeing that CO2 rise is the result, not the cause. Any consensus is myth.

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Feb 22, 2019 08:09:05   #
Morgan
 
lindajoy wrote:
When you consider Ddeveloped nations typically have high carbon dioxide emissions per capita, while some developing countries lead in the growth rate of carbon dioxide emissions too. ..

How much has really gone to Africa or any of the third world countries or any others for that fact?? Been collecting funding via the UN for how long now and yet no changes to these countries??? Why??

You know who has reduced emmissions?? Why its the US~~The reduction in the US of nearly 800 million tons of CO2 emissions since 2007 is almost five times greater than the second ranked country (UK) is just slightly less than the reductions of the next ten countries combined (UK, Italy, Ukraine, Spain, Japan, Russian Federation, France, Germany, Canada, and Greece) and where is china???
Do WE really need to be in Paris climate Accord???

Market forces, including the low price of renewables and natural gas, as well as a growing appetite for renewable energy fueled the decrease in U.S. emissions.

China one of the largest has has had slight reduction but not nearv enough when they are working towards a number onevin Solar panels producers?

Overall, Asia's growing economies contributed about two-thirds of the global increase in carbon emissions, the IEA found. India's emissions grew, the IEA said, but at half the rate seen in the past decade.

I read your suggesting to helping, all good, dismissed because your analogy doesn’t jive with the propaganda
put out..

Pollution is something we can work to reduce. The rest CO2 eyc is going to do what it does..

An informative article along with the sites referenced..

http://www.aei.org/publication/what-nation-on-earth-has-reduced-its-carbon-emissions-more-than-any-other-part-ii/
When you consider Ddeveloped nations typically hav... (show quote)


This graph is skewed only giving half of the information, for as much as the Us and China are putting out, our report cards are very poor. I have been looking for a site I was on that showed results of what countries put out to their improvements.

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Feb 22, 2019 08:15:11   #
Morgan
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
It is NOT admitted, and more and more are now reversing their initial take on it and seeing that CO2 rise is the result, not the cause. Any consensus is myth.


It is most definitely admitted, and the reversion is to the amount of speed it is getting worse. A scientific estimation is not a myth but one equation based on numbers which vary by slight degrees to allow for adjustments. Just as the numbers of our emissions have grown since Trump and instead of moving towards rectifying a problem, we are now accelerating it thanks to you and your base, Good job!

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Feb 22, 2019 09:35:42   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
It is most definitely admitted, and the reversion is to the amount of speed it is getting worse. A scientific estimation is not a myth but one equation based on numbers which vary by slight degrees to allow for adjustments. Just as the numbers of our emissions have grown since Trump and instead of moving towards rectifying a problem, we are now accelerating it thanks to you and your base, Good job!
It is most definitely admitted, and the reversion ... (show quote)


What is it with you alarmists? You can't get the difference between warming and cause. Not too many, at this point, deny there is warming and even some are, as you say, purporting that the rate of warming is increasing. However, the numbers of those actually in the world of science still thinking the warming is caused by man and CO2 emissions is ever decreasing. In March 2011, carbon dioxide levels were at 391 ppm, which is 0.0391 percent of the atmosphere. Pay attention to that. That is about 4/100's of a single percentage point. That alone should cause one to stop and reconsider, especially those who actually demonstrated the green house effect of gases like CO2 in the lab. Now, throw in the contradictions of CO2 levels rising after warming in the past, not preceding it, and you have very good arguments against CO2 being the culprit.

You l*****ts exaggerate the claim because you are so desperate to have your "green" agenda enacted, like a GD religion. We have had enough of the left's over reactions to everything! It's how we got things like affirmative action, identity politics, multiple g****rs, hyper sensitivity to comments, misrepresentations of p**********l comments related to race//religion, denial of i*****l i*********n issues and now more calls for paying r********ns to b****s for past s***ery.

You call Trump a liar and yet still speak of the Muslim ban as being a ban on all Muslims, as if it has anything what so ever to do with a religion. You still pin Trump with separating babies from parents at the border and yet you followed a guy who did exactly that and you back those who wrote the laws which allowed it.

The left has ZERO objectivity and freak out about the least little thing. Thus the term "snowflake" because they melt so easily!

We, those on the right, conservatives for the most part, will never give in to the l*****ts hyperbolic nonsense. We enjoy watching the new l*****t democratic p**********l candidates propose such stupidity. So, keep it up. WE love it!!! LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Feb 22, 2019 10:26:30   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
What is it with you alarmists? You can't get the difference between warming and cause. Not too many, at this point, deny there is warming and even some are, as you say, purporting that the rate of warming is increasing. However, the numbers of those actually in the world of science still thinking the warming is caused by man and CO2 emissions is ever decreasing. In March 2011, carbon dioxide levels were at 391 ppm, which is 0.0391 percent of the atmosphere. Pay attention to that. That is about 4/100's of a single percentage point. That alone should cause one to stop and reconsider, especially those who actually demonstrated the green house effect of gases like CO2 in the lab. Now, throw in the contradictions of CO2 levels rising after warming in the past, not preceding it, and you have very good arguments against CO2 being the culprit.

You l*****ts exaggerate the claim because you are so desperate to have your "green" agenda enacted, like a GD religion. We have had enough of the left's over reactions to everything! It's how we got things like affirmative action, identity politics, multiple g****rs, hyper sensitivity to comments, misrepresentations of p**********l comments related to race//religion, denial of i*****l i*********n issues and now more calls for paying r********ns to b****s for past s***ery.

You call Trump a liar and yet still speak of the Muslim ban as being a ban on all Muslims, as if it has anything what so ever to do with a religion. You still pin Trump with separating babies from parents at the border and yet you followed a guy who did exactly that and you back those who wrote the laws which allowed it.

The left has ZERO objectivity and freak out about the least little thing. Thus the term "snowflake" because they melt so easily!

We, those on the right, conservatives for the most part, will never give in to the l*****ts hyperbolic nonsense. We enjoy watching the new l*****t democratic p**********l candidates propose such stupidity. So, keep it up. WE love it!!! LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is it with you alarmists? You can't get the ... (show quote)


Since when does Snowflake refer solely to l*****ts?

I'm a conservative and sadly I've had to melt a few of my brothers...

Deflecting is a sure sign of impending defeat...

And the last resort of the ignorant...

You have made some solid arguments... Stick with them and leave the insults to bigots like Wolf Counselor...
(This has been an excellent thread )

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Feb 22, 2019 10:57:27   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Since when does Snowflake refer solely to l*****ts?

I'm a conservative and sadly I've had to melt a few of my brothers...

Deflecting is a sure sign of impending defeat...

And the last resort of the ignorant...

You have made some solid arguments... Stick with them and leave the insults to bigots like Wolf Counselor...
(This has been an excellent thread )


"The left has ZERO objectivity and freak out about the least little thing. Thus the term "snowflake" because they melt so easily!"

Insult, in a mild way, yes/maybe, but not a deflection, and certainly not a last resort of MINE. And maybe you have melted a few on the right, but the topic at hand here, is g****l w*****g. My comments regarding the objectivity of the left in this regard is spot on. I would invite Morgan's "objective" argument to counter what I have said.

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Feb 22, 2019 11:38:54   #
Morgan
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
What is it with you alarmists? You can't get the difference between warming and cause. Not too many, at this point, deny there is warming and even some are, as you say, purporting that the rate of warming is increasing. However, the numbers of those actually in the world of science still thinking the warming is caused by man and CO2 emissions is ever decreasing. In March 2011, carbon dioxide levels were at 391 ppm, which is 0.0391 percent of the atmosphere. Pay attention to that. That is about 4/100's of a single percentage point. That alone should cause one to stop and reconsider, especially those who actually demonstrated the green house effect of gases like CO2 in the lab. Now, throw in the contradictions of CO2 levels rising after warming in the past, not preceding it, and you have very good arguments against CO2 being the culprit.

You l*****ts exaggerate the claim because you are so desperate to have your "green" agenda enacted, like a GD religion. We have had enough of the left's over reactions to everything! It's how we got things like affirmative action, identity politics, multiple g****rs, hyper sensitivity to comments, misrepresentations of p**********l comments related to race//religion, denial of i*****l i*********n issues and now more calls for paying r********ns to b****s for past s***ery.

You call Trump a liar and yet still speak of the Muslim ban as being a ban on all Muslims, as if it has anything what so ever to do with a religion. You still pin Trump with separating babies from parents at the border and yet you followed a guy who did exactly that and you back those who wrote the laws which allowed it.

The left has ZERO objectivity and freak out about the least little thing. Thus the term "snowflake" because they melt so easily!

We, those on the right, conservatives for the most part, will never give in to the l*****ts hyperbolic nonsense. We enjoy watching the new l*****t democratic p**********l candidates propose such stupidity. So, keep it up. WE love it!!! LOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is it with you alarmists? You can't get the ... (show quote)


Your naivete is only surpassed by your foolish and arrogant obstinance. I imagine you're a birther also. You must work for an oil company. There is g****l w*****g CAUSED by man's usage of f****l f**ls. No one on the left is "freaking out", but because of the right refusing to address the issue of g****l w*****g they have us kicking the can down the road for decades and guess what, that time is over and it's time for us not to be stopped by deniers who simply refuse to face reality. I suppose you're waiting for the entire world to behave like China or Japan wearing facial masks to simply walk down the street.

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Feb 22, 2019 11:53:26   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
Your naivete is only surpassed by your foolish and arrogant obstinance. I imagine you're a birther also. You must work for an oil company. There is g****l w*****g CAUSED by man's usage of f****l f**ls. No one on the left is "freaking out", but because of the right refusing to address the issue of g****l w*****g they have us kicking the can down the road for decades and guess what, that time is over and it's time for us not to be stopped by deniers who simply refuse to face reality. I suppose you're waiting for the entire world to behave like China or Japan wearing facial masks to simply walk down the street.
Your naivete is only surpassed by your foolish and... (show quote)


Do you think they wear masks because of CO2? Right. Lol!

As long as China and India and all of Africa, much of S America don't comply, it is even more of a waste of time and resources.

As for the implied Naivete, I am heavily degrees AND published. I also do peer reviews for journals, one is environmental in its proceedings. I know bad science when I see it. I know bias in science also. Those of us who do this sort of thing all agree one one thing; CO2 induced warming is not valid on a world wide scale. It's not supported in the literature.

The question of what is causing the warming is still a mystery.

By the way, giving others money to throw at this problem with out checks and balances to make sure the money is used for that is, in my book, stupid. Aka-The Paris Agreement.

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Feb 22, 2019 12:09:59   #
Morgan
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Do you think they wear masks because of CO2? Right. Lol!

As long as China and India and all of Africa, much of S America don't comply, it is even more of a waste of time and resources.

As for the implied Naivete, I am heavily degrees AND published. I also do peer reviews for journals, one is environmental in its proceedings. I know bad science when I see it. I know bias in science also. Those of us who do this sort of thing all agree one one thing; CO2 induced warming is not valid on a world wide scale. It's not supported in the literature.

The question of what is causing the warming is still a mystery.

By the way, giving others money to throw at this problem with out checks and balances to make sure the money is used for that is, in my book, stupid. Aka-The Paris Agreement.
Do you think they wear masks because of CO2? Righ... (show quote)


LOL, what do you think is in air pollution, just CO2? What about CO which is never even discussed. No... it's NO mystery. Tell me one reason why the industries that profit greatly by their f****l f**ls should not be responsible for its waste into the air that effects everything? The Paris agreement is not as important as what we, ourselves do to address the problem of the future. Tell me also, what do you think we're spending on all of these climate catastrophes due to g****l w*****g? They are at a much greater cost to us than industries adhering to regulations. Right now their profits are skyrocketing while our taxes won't be able to keep up with rescue and damages, meanwhile, soon enough it'll break the insurance companies backs and more people will be unable to rebuild, crops will die, food shortages can happen. So much for saving your buck.







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Feb 22, 2019 12:33:41   #
Morgan
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Since when does Snowflake refer solely to l*****ts?

I'm a conservative and sadly I've had to melt a few of my brothers...

Deflecting is a sure sign of impending defeat...

And the last resort of the ignorant...

You have made some solid arguments... Stick with them and leave the insults to bigots like Wolf Counselor...
(This has been an excellent thread )


Thank you...again, I seem to be a venting station for some of these people. Hard to stay above it.

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Feb 22, 2019 12:50:22   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
LOL, what do you think is in air pollution, just CO2? What about CO which is never even discussed. No... it's NO mystery. Tell me one reason why the industries that profit greatly by their f****l f**ls should not be responsible for its waste into the air that effects everything? The Paris agreement is not as important as what we, ourselves do to address the problem of the future. Tell me also, what do you think we're spending on all of these climate catastrophes due to g****l w*****g? They are at a much greater cost to us than industries adhering to regulations. Right now their profits are skyrocketing while our taxes won't be able to keep up with rescue and damages, meanwhile, soon enough it'll break the insurance companies backs and more people will be unable to rebuild, crops will die, food shortages can happen. So much for saving your buck.
LOL, what do you think is in air pollution, just C... (show quote)


I didn't even imply that CO2 is a big, much less small, part of CO2. By the way, masks don't help. Lol!

What climate catastrophes??

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Feb 22, 2019 12:58:37   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
Thank you...again, I seem to be a venting station for some of these people. Hard to stay above it.


Who are "these people?"

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Feb 22, 2019 13:00:49   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
LOL, what do you think is in air pollution, just CO2? What about CO which is never even discussed. No... it's NO mystery. Tell me one reason why the industries that profit greatly by their f****l f**ls should not be responsible for its waste into the air that effects everything? The Paris agreement is not as important as what we, ourselves do to address the problem of the future. Tell me also, what do you think we're spending on all of these climate catastrophes due to g****l w*****g? They are at a much greater cost to us than industries adhering to regulations. Right now their profits are skyrocketing while our taxes won't be able to keep up with rescue and damages, meanwhile, soon enough it'll break the insurance companies backs and more people will be unable to rebuild, crops will die, food shortages can happen. So much for saving your buck.
LOL, what do you think is in air pollution, just C... (show quote)


By the way, correlation is not causation, else increased numbers of firemen are the obvious cause of fires. Lol! Can you prove that rising CO2 levels are not a response to warming, but a cause?

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Feb 22, 2019 13:12:41   #
Morgan
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I didn't even imply that CO2 is a big, much less small, part of CO2. By the way, masks don't help. Lol!

What climate catastrophes??



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Feb 22, 2019 13:17:38   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Morgan wrote:


Exactly right. There have not been any.

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