Tyster

Ok... I agree with that. Thought you were going in a different direction. There is no reason for him to even harp on this issue unless he is fomenting division.

Ve'hoe

WELLLLLL,,,,, I must say Tyster, that I am impressed with you, for admitting that...

I like to see someone who can think on both sides, I don't mind that at all, I know what it is like to be disappointed by your politicians, hell we had Nixon!!

But by the same token it is then inaccurate and wrong to say bush attacked Iraq or Afghanistan,, or that Palin said she could see Alaska,,,,,,,,

It is exactly that kind of rhetoric that keeps us from siding with decent people on the left... it cannot be one way for one side, and hell for the other...


Excellent job.

Tyster

Thank you. But just to tease a bit... I think Palin was very able to see Alaska! I remember the comment though... she said she could see Russia... which is possible depending where you are in Alaska.

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

Her quote was that she could, "... see Russia from my (her) back yard." That, my over zealous friends, is a total fabrication. She can't see Russia at all from her back yard.

The distance from her private house (which is closer to Russia than the Governor's Mansion), is 702 miles. For her to "see" Russia from that location, the elevation of her house would need to be at a distance of 62 vertical miles; which, just happens to be the distance from the Earth's surface to the beginnings of Outer Space.

Palin later back-tracked and said you can see Russia from Alaska. There are only 2 locations where that can be done without leaving the ground.

From Snopes.com:
As to the question of whether one can actually see Russia from Alaska, Governor Palin was correct: such a view is possible from more than one site in that state.

A Slate article on the topic noted that:
"In the middle of the Bering Strait are two small, sparsely populated islands: Big Diomede, which sits in Russian territory, and Little Diomede, which is part of the United States. At their closest, these two islands are a little less than two and a half miles apart, which means that, on a clear day, you can definitely see one from the other."

Also, a 1988 New York Times article reported that:
"To the Russian mainland from St. Lawrence Island, a bleak ice-bound expanse the size of Long Island out in the middle of the Bering Sea, the distance is 37 miles. From high ground there or from the Air Force facility at Tin City atop Cape Prince of Wales, the westernmost edge of mainland North America, on a clear day you can see the furthermost eastern extent of Siberia with the naked eye."

This isn't any political rhetoric. These are called "facts." These are the result of researching a topic to glean the t***h. Just saying....

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

It is surely time someone said those words about Obama and women. Thanks a lot, Dave.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Isn't it something when somebody can quote all the left leaning people around and lead off all those true words with the word of Tina Fey from Saturday Night Live. Yes, you screwed up an otherwise good post with those words which did come from the mouth of Sarah Palin. Yes, you took the words of Tina Fey right out of her mouth and inserted them in Sarah Palin's. Is there a chance that you have just listened to too many left leaners quoting those words and have come to believe they came from her?

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

You're wrong old boy! Palin DID say the words "back yard," in an interview with Katie Curic. You can Google the transcripts. I simply interjected Tina Fey's word, "house" for the fun of it.

However, think about what Palin ("I'm just a plain-spoken person who says what she thinks.") meant when she said, "I can see Russia from my back yard." I'll bet, even you construed her to mean the back yard of her house. Millions and millions of others did.

But semantics aside, the rest of my post is one you can't argue with. It has something you can't deal with, factual information. I did a Google Maps search of Palin's private house. It showed an aerial photo of the house. It faces East by Southeast. And, it's halfway down the Alaskan Panhandle. There's no way she can see Russia from her backyard. Her back yard looks out toward Canada.

So, cut out the rhetoric and get to counterpointing with things of substance. It'll make you appear (at least) like you know something of which you're speaking, unlike Palin. I realize its a stretch for you; but, please try.

I enjoy a good battle of wits; but, I just h**e dueling with unarmed people.
Know what I mean, Vern?

Ve'hoe

Here is the transcript:


Sarah Palin will be guest co-hosting NBC's "Today" show Tuesday, coinciding with Katie Couric's guest-hosting of ABC's "Good Morning America." The last time the two met head-to-head was in September 2008, when the then-Republican vice p**********l candidate and Couric sat down to talk during the upcoming e******n - a series of interviews that many believe doomed Palin's candidacy.





Here are POLITICO's top 5 moments from Couric and Palin's interview in 2008:

1. Alaska and Russia

Palin's comments would later be relentlessly mocked by Tina Fey on Saturday Night Live, as "I can see Russia from my house!"

"You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign-policy experience. What did you mean by that?" asked Couric.

"[O]ur next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of," said Palin, trying to explain how her state's proximity to Russia adds to her foreign policy experience.

"As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there, they are right next to our state," she added

Ve'hoe

Can you supply the transcript where palin said "backyard"???


This from the Chrisitian science monitor of top 10 political misquotes:


10. "I can see Russia from my house!" – Sarah Palin

It was actually comedian Tina Fey, who was impersonating Ms. Palin on Saturday Night Live, who uttered the line that is now widely attributed to the former Alaska governor.

The basis for this line comes from a September 2008 interview with ABC News's Charles Gibson, who asked Palin what insights she had from her state being so close to Russia. She responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."

This is true. As Slate has pointed out, on a clear day, those on the Alaskan island of Little Diomede can see the Russian island of Big Diomede, located across the International Date Line some two and a half miles away. Given that Big Diomede has no permanent population, the amount of foreign policy experience one can gain from staring at it is debatable. But you can see Russian soil while standing in Alaska.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

You remember something that didn't happen - or perhaps you mis-remember, a comedy parody with an actor impersonating Palin did say it, and like so many other folks who succumb to propaganda think it was actually Palin. Fantasy replacing reality for the easily led.

What is most fascinating about these Palin attacks is the realization that for the national office she was the nominee, her opponent was Biden - and is there a really open mind that would suggest that what comes out of his mouth is anywhere near as stupid as what comes from Palin's?

JimMe

So, the dispute between Us centers around Pres Obama NOT ACTUALLY UTTERING THE WORDS ANY WHITE HOUSE SPOKESPERSON SPOUTED & Not That Pres Obama Approved of What Was Said/Meant... In this case, You Are Correct... I Always See/Hear/Believe ANYTHING a White House Spokesperson Says Should Be Understood As the Pres' Voice... This is Where We Seem to Differ...

Tyster

You are belaboring the point and taking the original comments out of context. The conversation was what Obama actually uttered. Not what was said on his behalf.

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

Okay, it seems I was mistaken by what I thought was an accurate accounting of an interview between Charlie Gibson and Sarah Palin, in the 2008-9 timeframe, regarding her being able to see Russia from her house/backyard. Neither of those words, house or backyard were spoken by Palin. I stand corrected and apologize for my error.

Ve'hoe

OK,,, so why not actually look at what she "HAS" said,, she was a victim of an unmerciful media attack,, being an Officer in the service, you know how that can be and how they can paint you(!??!)

I have read into her a little, she isn't the dumb-butt they claim, she has been right on Russia, Affordable Care act, and a number of things,,,

The left and media H**E her, that in itself, is enough for me to look at her, because I cannot trust anyone with that much hatred, for someone else.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

You should be congratulated for learning the t***h and admitting your error. You seem to be an intelligent person who tries to keep up with events - this experience might suggest to you the sources you've been using are not reliably balanced - suggest you include other sources