If Nothing can Come from Nothing, Where Did “God” Come From ?
Sep 30, 2018 02:23:01 #
07/19/2016 If Nothing can Come from Nothing, Where did “God” Come From?
Fr. Robert Spitzer
https://www.magiscenter.com/if-nothing-can-come-from-nothing-where-did-god-come-from/
If a reality – say, our universe – has a beginning, then that beginning point represents the point at which the universe came into existence (including its physical time).
https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/what-was-it-like-when-the-big-bang-first-began-cef8de2c2d73
Prior to that point the physical universe did not exist.
In other words, it was nothing – absolute nothing.
Now HERE is where the problem of something coming from nothing appears on the scene.
If the universe was truly nothing, and if from nothing only nothing can come, then the universe needs something beyond itself to cause it to exist – to bring it from nothing to something.
What Realities Need Explaining?
Without this transcendent cause (a creator), the universe could not bring itself from nothing to something – because it was nothing.
If a reality doesn’t have a beginning, if it is not conditioned in its existence, and if it is not conditioned by time, that reality does not have to have a creator.
It does not have to have a cause for its existence, because it was never nothing (unlike our universe, which was nothing prior to its beginning) and it was not dependent on anything else for its existence.
It is its own existence – indeed, it is existence or being itself. Such a reality is not contradictory – it is, in the words of many philosophers, necessary.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/god-necessary-being/
There is nothing in the world of logic that requires every being to have a creator or a cause!
The only beings that require a creator or a cause, as I said above, are those which have a beginning, those which are dependent on something else for their existence, and those which are conditioned by time.
What is Exactly is God?
Now let’s return to your question.
God is defined as a being that does not have a beginning, that is not dependent on anything for its existence, and that is not conditioned by time, and so God does not need a cause.
Indeed, if you read chapters three and five of “New Proofs for the Existence of God,” you will see that God must exist, because there must exist at least
https://www.magiscenter.com/product/new-proofs-for-the-existence-of-god/
One reality which:
Has no beginning,
Is not dependent on anything else for its existence,
And is not conditioned by time.
The short reason for this (which is explained fully in the book) is as follows:
If all beings have a beginning, then all beings will have been nothing prior to their beginning, but this means that nothing will ever come into existence.
Why?
Avoid the Infinite Regress
Let’s say our universe is nothing without the existence of a prior reality, but that prior reality is nothing without the existence of another prior reality, and so forth ad infinitum.
Then the whole of reality is nothing without prior realities, but we have no end to the prior realities, which are nothing.
In short, the sum total of all the realities which are nothing without other realities, which are nothing without other realities, which are nothing…
Is NOTHING.
Zero added to itself an infinite number of times is zero.
You can read a fuller explanation here, or in chapters three through five of the book. If you do not have at least one “reality which is NOT nothing prior to a beginning” (like God), then you have no reality at all.
https://strangenotions.com/why-an-infinite-regress-among-proper-causes-is-metaphysically-impossible/
And this We Call God
Now it just so happens that there can be ONLY one reality that does not have a beginning, is not dependent on anything else for its existence, and is not conditioned by time.
The proofs for this are in the book, and it will take too long to explain them here.
The ultimate conclusion is there has to be AT LEAST one “beginningless being.”
And there can be ONLY one “beginningless being” – and this is what we mean by “God.”
Now let’s return to your question.
The reason we ask the question “why does the universe have a cause?”
Or “why do we have to explain how the universe came from nothing to something?”
is because there is an increasing amount of evidence from physics, the philosophy of mathematics, and metaphysics that imply and even require that the universe has a BEGINNING.
You can see some of this evidence on our Physics FAQ (or chapters one through five of “New Proofs”).
The Borde-Vilenkin-Guth 2003 theorem, entropy, the Borde-Vilenkin 1993 theorem, etc.
https://www.magiscenter.com/evidence-of-a-beginning-of-the-universe-from-the-borde-vilenkin-guth-bvg-theorem-god-modern-physics-8/
“Where Did God Come From?” Doesn’t Apply
These questions don’t come up with respect to God because there is NO EVIDENCE that God had a beginning, or is dependent on something for its existence, or is conditioned by time.
Indeed, as noted above, there must be at least one being – and only one being (i.e. God).
That does not have a beginning, is not dependent on anything for its existence, and is not conditioned by time.
I hope this helps you with your query.
If you want a more complete explanation, please read “New Proofs for the Existence of God” or download our
https://www.magiscenter.com/product/new-proofs-for-the-existence-of-god/
Physics FAQ.
https://www.magiscenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Magis_FactSheet.pdf
Sincerely,
Fr. Robert Spitzer, S.J., Ph.D.
Fr. Robert Spitzer
https://www.magiscenter.com/if-nothing-can-come-from-nothing-where-did-god-come-from/
If a reality – say, our universe – has a beginning, then that beginning point represents the point at which the universe came into existence (including its physical time).
https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/what-was-it-like-when-the-big-bang-first-began-cef8de2c2d73
Prior to that point the physical universe did not exist.
In other words, it was nothing – absolute nothing.
Now HERE is where the problem of something coming from nothing appears on the scene.
If the universe was truly nothing, and if from nothing only nothing can come, then the universe needs something beyond itself to cause it to exist – to bring it from nothing to something.
What Realities Need Explaining?
Without this transcendent cause (a creator), the universe could not bring itself from nothing to something – because it was nothing.
If a reality doesn’t have a beginning, if it is not conditioned in its existence, and if it is not conditioned by time, that reality does not have to have a creator.
It does not have to have a cause for its existence, because it was never nothing (unlike our universe, which was nothing prior to its beginning) and it was not dependent on anything else for its existence.
It is its own existence – indeed, it is existence or being itself. Such a reality is not contradictory – it is, in the words of many philosophers, necessary.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/god-necessary-being/
There is nothing in the world of logic that requires every being to have a creator or a cause!
The only beings that require a creator or a cause, as I said above, are those which have a beginning, those which are dependent on something else for their existence, and those which are conditioned by time.
What is Exactly is God?
Now let’s return to your question.
God is defined as a being that does not have a beginning, that is not dependent on anything for its existence, and that is not conditioned by time, and so God does not need a cause.
Indeed, if you read chapters three and five of “New Proofs for the Existence of God,” you will see that God must exist, because there must exist at least
https://www.magiscenter.com/product/new-proofs-for-the-existence-of-god/
One reality which:
Has no beginning,
Is not dependent on anything else for its existence,
And is not conditioned by time.
The short reason for this (which is explained fully in the book) is as follows:
If all beings have a beginning, then all beings will have been nothing prior to their beginning, but this means that nothing will ever come into existence.
Why?
Avoid the Infinite Regress
Let’s say our universe is nothing without the existence of a prior reality, but that prior reality is nothing without the existence of another prior reality, and so forth ad infinitum.
Then the whole of reality is nothing without prior realities, but we have no end to the prior realities, which are nothing.
In short, the sum total of all the realities which are nothing without other realities, which are nothing without other realities, which are nothing…
Is NOTHING.
Zero added to itself an infinite number of times is zero.
You can read a fuller explanation here, or in chapters three through five of the book. If you do not have at least one “reality which is NOT nothing prior to a beginning” (like God), then you have no reality at all.
https://strangenotions.com/why-an-infinite-regress-among-proper-causes-is-metaphysically-impossible/
And this We Call God
Now it just so happens that there can be ONLY one reality that does not have a beginning, is not dependent on anything else for its existence, and is not conditioned by time.
The proofs for this are in the book, and it will take too long to explain them here.
The ultimate conclusion is there has to be AT LEAST one “beginningless being.”
And there can be ONLY one “beginningless being” – and this is what we mean by “God.”
Now let’s return to your question.
The reason we ask the question “why does the universe have a cause?”
Or “why do we have to explain how the universe came from nothing to something?”
is because there is an increasing amount of evidence from physics, the philosophy of mathematics, and metaphysics that imply and even require that the universe has a BEGINNING.
You can see some of this evidence on our Physics FAQ (or chapters one through five of “New Proofs”).
The Borde-Vilenkin-Guth 2003 theorem, entropy, the Borde-Vilenkin 1993 theorem, etc.
https://www.magiscenter.com/evidence-of-a-beginning-of-the-universe-from-the-borde-vilenkin-guth-bvg-theorem-god-modern-physics-8/
“Where Did God Come From?” Doesn’t Apply
These questions don’t come up with respect to God because there is NO EVIDENCE that God had a beginning, or is dependent on something for its existence, or is conditioned by time.
Indeed, as noted above, there must be at least one being – and only one being (i.e. God).
That does not have a beginning, is not dependent on anything for its existence, and is not conditioned by time.
I hope this helps you with your query.
If you want a more complete explanation, please read “New Proofs for the Existence of God” or download our
https://www.magiscenter.com/product/new-proofs-for-the-existence-of-god/
Physics FAQ.
https://www.magiscenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Magis_FactSheet.pdf
Sincerely,
Fr. Robert Spitzer, S.J., Ph.D.
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