No More Stalling on Kavanaugh!!!
Sep 29, 2018 13:13:33 #
You know the Progressives are going to asking for more time and that the FBI didn't really have a chance to get the job done. That's a given. Now this is when the GOP has to continue to be tough and say, "It's over, period". Maybe quote Biden again. Actually, if Murkoski (Ak), Collins (Maine), and Flake (Az.) are satisfied, that's really all that matters. The way I see it, if two out of three are a "go", that will put them at 50. and then VP Pence being the deciding factor.
Sep 29, 2018 13:15:35 #
fullspinzoo wrote:
You know the Progressives are going to asking for ... (show quote)
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You will Regret Kavanaugh years down the road just like Trump if he doesn’t Pivot and change his stance.
Sep 29, 2018 13:38:33 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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You will Regret Kavanaugh years down the road just like Trump if he doesn’t Pivot and change his stance.
You will Regret Kavanaugh years down the road just like Trump if he doesn’t Pivot and change his stance.
Change his stance how? Just like Trump? How? I'm not regretting Trump in the least. I've always taken a positive stance when it comes to Trump. In fact, I think he has out done all of expectations. You always take such a negative approach to everybody. Trump could not be doing any better, especially considering all the bulls**t he has to put up with from L'Resistance. I usually respect your opinion but sometimes you really piss me off with your "the glass is half empty" approach. You couldn't have it better with any one politician, dead or alive, period.
Sep 29, 2018 13:41:43 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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You will Regret Kavanaugh years down the road just like Trump if he doesn’t Pivot and change his stance.
You will Regret Kavanaugh years down the road just like Trump if he doesn’t Pivot and change his stance.
For once you speak wisdom. If confirmed Kavanaugh will be viewed as Trumps mini-me
poodle on the Supreme Court. A spineless yes man for the angry right, incapable of fairly adjudicating any serious matter before the court.
Sep 29, 2018 14:19:23 #
fullspinzoo wrote:
Change his stance how? Just like Trump? How? I'... (show quote)
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He keeps rehiring all the Swamp ones... they will never change... I’m very suspicious of Trump’s motives now.
Go to that Topic I gave you and read it carefully to understand what’s been done.
Sep 29, 2018 14:20:40 #
eden wrote:
For once you speak wisdom. If confirmed Kavanaugh will be viewed as Trumps mini-me poodle on the Supreme Court. A spineless yes man for the angry right, incapable of fairly adjudicating any serious matter before the court.
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Well aside from that,I’m more referring to the bigger picture of all the RATS Trump hashired thus far.
Sep 29, 2018 14:27:13 #
eden wrote:
For once you speak wisdom. If confirmed Kavanaugh will be viewed as Trumps mini-me
poodle on the Supreme Court. A spineless yes man for the angry right, incapable of fairly adjudicating any serious matter before the court.
poodle on the Supreme Court. A spineless yes man for the angry right, incapable of fairly adjudicating any serious matter before the court.
That's pure bulls**t and you know it.
Sep 29, 2018 14:29:48 #
The elite create puppet shows and circuses to confuse, mislead, and distract us. The article below is what American's SHOULD be screaming about. But instead, like small children boo'ing the bad puppets, we argue with each other for or against Kavanaugh. Meanwhile the puppet master laughs hysterically at our simple mindedness while his co-conspirators mingle among us, picking our pockets clean. We may be individually smart but we are collectively stupid. The elite know this. They count on it. They thrive off it.
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Losing Time
If you work by the hour, the guy with money can buy your time. That’s what it really means to say someone is “rich” – he has more time because he can control not only his own, but yours, too.
The guy who had $1,000 worth of stocks in 1971 could buy approximately 250 of the average working man’s hours. Today, that $1,000 worth of stocks is worth about $28,000… which, at today’s $26-per-hour average, will buy 1,077 hours of the typical working man’s time – four times as much as in 1971.
In other words, compared to the wage earner, the capitalist is four times as rich.
Invert it, and you see about the same thing. A working man would have had to labor for 212 hours to buy the 30 Dow stocks in 1971. Today, his time is much less valuable; he has to sweat for over 1,100 hours to buy the Dow.
That’s why the liberals whine about “ine******y”… and probably why Donald J. Trump was elected. Few people may have done the math, but a lot of people suspected a rat.
And they were right.
Many – including the president – pointed their fingers… but at the wrong rat!
They thought it was the foreigners who had done them dirty: the Chinese with their “unfair trade practices” and the Mexicans “pouring across the border, stealing our jobs,” was the jingo.
For their part, investors, the rich, and the cronies and insiders thought they were smart. They earned their wealth fair and square, they believed, by funding America’s enterprises… and by carefully allocating precious capital to worthy businesses run by able corporate champions.
But the fix was in.
Executive Order 6102: How exactly was the fix put in place?
In 1933, the matter first came before the Supreme Court. Franklin Roosevelt’s Executive Order 6102 made it illegal for citizens to own gold, except in the smallest of quantities.
It came to the Supremes in a series of disputes called the “gold clause” cases. “Where in the Constitution did the president get that power?” people wondered.
Back then, some investors recalled that the feds can play fast and loose with the dollar, as Lincoln had during the War Between the States.
Gold clauses in contracts protected them by insisting on gold as a means of settling up. Eliminating the gold clause meant taking away the ability to protect against inflation... and substantially altering the terms of the deal.
But the Supremes went along with it. Colleague Dan Denning tells the tale:
…First, let me quote a few brief passages from [Justice James] McReynolds’ dissent. They capture the spirit of his objection and the relationship between sound money and political liberty. McReynolds writes that:
“Just men regard repudiation and spoliation of citizens by their sovereign with abhorrence; but we are asked to affirm that the Constitution has granted power to accomplish both. No definite delegation of such power exists; and we cannot believe the farseeing framers, who labored with hope of establishing justice and securing the blessings of liberty, intended that the expected government should have authority to annihilate its own obligations and destroy the very rights which they were endeavoring to protect. Not only is there no permission for such actions; they are inhibited. And no plenitude of words can conform them to our charter.”
McReynolds went on to make the point that when you buy a bond or make a loan, “the creditor agrees to accept and the debtor undertakes to return the thing loaned or its equivalent.” Because Roosevelt’s Executive Order meant companies could be paid back in depreciated dollars instead of gold coin or gold equal to the value of the original loan, McReynolds recognized that this was a de facto default.
The gold clause guaranteeing creditors be paid back in gold or something of equal value, “prevents the borrower from availing itself of a possibility of discharge of the debt in depreciated currency.”
Congress went along with it, too. And then, still in the minority, McReynolds saw the handwriting on the wall. The feds themselves might be the main beneficiaries. Congress would be able to borrow… and then wipe out its own debt by inflation:
“We are dealing here with a debased standard, adopted with the definite purpose to destroy obligations. Such arbitrary and oppressive action is not within any congressional power heretofore recognized. The authority of Congress to create legal tender obligations in times of peace is derived from the power to borrow money; this cannot be extended to embrace the destruction of all credits. […]
For the government to say we have violated our contract, but have escaped the consequences through our own statute, would be monstrous. In matters of contractual obligation, the government cannot legislate so as to excuse itself. […]
Wh**ever may be the situation now confronting us, it is the outcome of attempts to destroy lawful undertakings by legislative action; and this we think the Court should disapprove of in no uncertain terms. […]
Loss of reputation for honorable dealing will bring us unending humiliation, the impending legal and moral chaos is appalling.”
Humiliation Afoot
With the gold clause out of the way, the coast was clear. The feds floated out one program after another, meddling in every aspect of human life.
By the 1950's, the f**e wars had begun, too – major wars – with no declaration or funding from Congress.
By the 1960's, the Johnson team had a full-scale war in Vietnam (a country with no capacity or intention to harm the U.S.).
In addition, it launched a War on Poverty, too… intended to create a Great Society, where the lambs would lie down with the wolves and fruit would hang from every ghetto palm.
But humiliation was afoot. It was soon clear that the feds were going to run out of money.
And this time, it was the Nixon team that shirked its duty. Rather than admit that it had overspent, Nixon repudiated the last link with real money and the ability of foreign governments to exchange their dollars for gold at the promised rate.
Now, the feds had gone Full Paper. Their money was nothing but pieces of paper backed by what was soon to be the world’s biggest debtor.
And now, there was nothing stopping them… There was nothing to stop the chaos McReynolds foresaw...
full article: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-29/how-executive-order-6102-doomed-america
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Losing Time
If you work by the hour, the guy with money can buy your time. That’s what it really means to say someone is “rich” – he has more time because he can control not only his own, but yours, too.
The guy who had $1,000 worth of stocks in 1971 could buy approximately 250 of the average working man’s hours. Today, that $1,000 worth of stocks is worth about $28,000… which, at today’s $26-per-hour average, will buy 1,077 hours of the typical working man’s time – four times as much as in 1971.
In other words, compared to the wage earner, the capitalist is four times as rich.
Invert it, and you see about the same thing. A working man would have had to labor for 212 hours to buy the 30 Dow stocks in 1971. Today, his time is much less valuable; he has to sweat for over 1,100 hours to buy the Dow.
That’s why the liberals whine about “ine******y”… and probably why Donald J. Trump was elected. Few people may have done the math, but a lot of people suspected a rat.
And they were right.
Many – including the president – pointed their fingers… but at the wrong rat!
They thought it was the foreigners who had done them dirty: the Chinese with their “unfair trade practices” and the Mexicans “pouring across the border, stealing our jobs,” was the jingo.
For their part, investors, the rich, and the cronies and insiders thought they were smart. They earned their wealth fair and square, they believed, by funding America’s enterprises… and by carefully allocating precious capital to worthy businesses run by able corporate champions.
But the fix was in.
Executive Order 6102: How exactly was the fix put in place?
In 1933, the matter first came before the Supreme Court. Franklin Roosevelt’s Executive Order 6102 made it illegal for citizens to own gold, except in the smallest of quantities.
It came to the Supremes in a series of disputes called the “gold clause” cases. “Where in the Constitution did the president get that power?” people wondered.
Back then, some investors recalled that the feds can play fast and loose with the dollar, as Lincoln had during the War Between the States.
Gold clauses in contracts protected them by insisting on gold as a means of settling up. Eliminating the gold clause meant taking away the ability to protect against inflation... and substantially altering the terms of the deal.
But the Supremes went along with it. Colleague Dan Denning tells the tale:
…First, let me quote a few brief passages from [Justice James] McReynolds’ dissent. They capture the spirit of his objection and the relationship between sound money and political liberty. McReynolds writes that:
“Just men regard repudiation and spoliation of citizens by their sovereign with abhorrence; but we are asked to affirm that the Constitution has granted power to accomplish both. No definite delegation of such power exists; and we cannot believe the farseeing framers, who labored with hope of establishing justice and securing the blessings of liberty, intended that the expected government should have authority to annihilate its own obligations and destroy the very rights which they were endeavoring to protect. Not only is there no permission for such actions; they are inhibited. And no plenitude of words can conform them to our charter.”
McReynolds went on to make the point that when you buy a bond or make a loan, “the creditor agrees to accept and the debtor undertakes to return the thing loaned or its equivalent.” Because Roosevelt’s Executive Order meant companies could be paid back in depreciated dollars instead of gold coin or gold equal to the value of the original loan, McReynolds recognized that this was a de facto default.
The gold clause guaranteeing creditors be paid back in gold or something of equal value, “prevents the borrower from availing itself of a possibility of discharge of the debt in depreciated currency.”
Congress went along with it, too. And then, still in the minority, McReynolds saw the handwriting on the wall. The feds themselves might be the main beneficiaries. Congress would be able to borrow… and then wipe out its own debt by inflation:
“We are dealing here with a debased standard, adopted with the definite purpose to destroy obligations. Such arbitrary and oppressive action is not within any congressional power heretofore recognized. The authority of Congress to create legal tender obligations in times of peace is derived from the power to borrow money; this cannot be extended to embrace the destruction of all credits. […]
For the government to say we have violated our contract, but have escaped the consequences through our own statute, would be monstrous. In matters of contractual obligation, the government cannot legislate so as to excuse itself. […]
Wh**ever may be the situation now confronting us, it is the outcome of attempts to destroy lawful undertakings by legislative action; and this we think the Court should disapprove of in no uncertain terms. […]
Loss of reputation for honorable dealing will bring us unending humiliation, the impending legal and moral chaos is appalling.”
Humiliation Afoot
With the gold clause out of the way, the coast was clear. The feds floated out one program after another, meddling in every aspect of human life.
By the 1950's, the f**e wars had begun, too – major wars – with no declaration or funding from Congress.
By the 1960's, the Johnson team had a full-scale war in Vietnam (a country with no capacity or intention to harm the U.S.).
In addition, it launched a War on Poverty, too… intended to create a Great Society, where the lambs would lie down with the wolves and fruit would hang from every ghetto palm.
But humiliation was afoot. It was soon clear that the feds were going to run out of money.
And this time, it was the Nixon team that shirked its duty. Rather than admit that it had overspent, Nixon repudiated the last link with real money and the ability of foreign governments to exchange their dollars for gold at the promised rate.
Now, the feds had gone Full Paper. Their money was nothing but pieces of paper backed by what was soon to be the world’s biggest debtor.
And now, there was nothing stopping them… There was nothing to stop the chaos McReynolds foresaw...
full article: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-29/how-executive-order-6102-doomed-america
Sep 29, 2018 14:30:03 #
fullspinzoo wrote:
That's pure bulls**t and you know it.
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IDK what else to say ZOO, these people born, Bred, raised, Schooled, G***med, programmed in D.C. etc are never ever going to change.
They can not be reprogrammed.
Sep 29, 2018 14:36:17 #
cSc61 wrote:
The elite create puppet shows and circuses to conf... (show quote)
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Bullseye !
JACKPOT you nailed it... great post... Can you Create a New Topic for this and I will chime in on it later, I”m traveling today.
Thank You
and Trump just borrowed another $900Billion of FIAT Royalty Paper to these A**holes Above...
WTF is Really Going on Mr. Trump ?
Sep 29, 2018 14:55:26 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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IDK what else to say ZOO, these people born, Bred, raised, Schooled, G***med, programmed in D.C. etc are never ever going to change.
They can not be reprogrammed.
IDK what else to say ZOO, these people born, Bred, raised, Schooled, G***med, programmed in D.C. etc are never ever going to change.
They can not be reprogrammed.
IDK either Sici, but you're becoming too conspiratorial for me, a little too much like Alex Jones. For me, if Trump was not in control, we wouldn't be seeing a real plus in the economy due to the tax cuts, 100 new records plus since Trump was elected in the market, Gorsuch confirmed and I think Kavanaugh will be confirmed. It's 60-40 tp the good right now. I believe there will be a good turnout for the midterms. I believe who we elect WILL matter immensely. Without Trump, there is no way (or no person) who could have put us in the position that we are in now. NOBODY so a puppet and somebody else pulling the strings, nobody has the ability to pull strings and accomplish what Trump has done. Foreign policy wise neither Bush nor Obama had the right message toward NK and Chairman Kim. But Trump did. And Trump did away with the Iran Deal.
Sep 30, 2018 12:23:21 #
fullspinzoo wrote:
IDK either Sici, but you're becoming too conspirat... (show quote)
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I know he’s done a few good things, I’m not talking about those, I’m talking about the constant hiring and rehiring from everyone in the swamp from A to Z ...
I did not support Gorsuch for the Same reasons I don’t trust Kavanugh...
I’m also referring to the 3 things Trump hasn’t addressed, approached, gone after, remains silent on... not done yet...
As for the Economy, I’m sorry, I just don’t see it and I don’t measure my or my clients progress, revenue streams or success by WallStreets illusions.
More later.
Sep 30, 2018 12:58:08 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>> br br I know he’s done a few goo... (show quote)
Sorry, but unfortunately we are just on two different wave lengths. Exactly who do you think is controlling Trump and Obama in the past. You make it sound like the same group or individual. If Trump is not in control, how would Trump be lacking in addressing your 3 issues? If you have a particular link, I'll be happy to try to digest it. If you get a chance read "the Naked C*******t" by Cleon Skousen who I knew personally in Salt Lake City. You strike me as a Alex Jones fan. Or maybe the Health Ranger, Mike Adams. Some use the word conspiratorial. Like I said I respect your right to have wh**ever opinion on these kind of matters you have, but I don't necessarily agree with you....and probably never will. Doesn't mean that I'm right and you're wrong. Geo engineering, the Fed, regulated medical practices (fluoride in water), foreign policy (not backing Israel), UFO's ~ what 3 things has Trump NOT addressed. I'm probably a hard case to win over ~ hard to teach an old dog new tricks, but I'll take a considerable look.
Sep 30, 2018 13:10:58 #
fullspinzoo wrote:
Sorry, but unfortunately we are just on two differ... (show quote)
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Here’s a Topic I created yesterday as she explains it best:
Pillar and Post
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-141780-1.html
Obama worked for one team, Trump possibly works for the other team I just need more time to prove it...
If Trump is really smart enough to see through the mastery of deception these 2 entities have created then he’s scared or something, IDK, too soon to tell...
Who are Trump’s Handlers ?
Sep 30, 2018 13:32:15 #
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