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May 3, 2014 22:14:17   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
engaged wrote:
Homosexuality is not selfish; it is a reality. Among all life forms there is a constant 10% who are wired to seek love with their own kind. I know that you cannot see this because you take the Bible literally. I honor your right to do so. But be Christian in your compassion and acceptance. Jesus was.


larry wrote:
Jesus had compassion, but He also had disgust for those that did not honor the creative c**pling of man and woman, but went after selfish gratification by strange flesh. If there is any wiring toward this activity, it is a learned or curiosity experiment that has gotten out of hand. There is nothing wrong with filial love toward same sex persons, but it does not need to or should not lead to perversion of sexual activity. You seem to believe that a creator of perfection would purposely introduce perversity into the creation. This is absolutely against all knowledge of God. It may be a pagan concept but not one of Holiness.
Jesus had compassion, but He also had disgust for ... (show quote)


larry, The first post above was by "engaged." The quote tags are all messed up in the way it is displaying. I corrected it in this post, but the original shows no end between the end of engaged's post and the beginning of mine, so you can't tell where she stopped, and I began.

My post began here where I addressed her by name:

"Engaged, that 10% of humanity being homosexual is a complete misnomer, a deliberate lie perpetuated upon society by the man who first made the false claim.

Alfred Kinsey originally made that claim in the 40's and 50's, and his research was discredited long ago. Kinsey was a sexual pervert and predator, a homosexual paedophile - a pederast, actually, as he pursued and sometimes successfully seduced the young men who assisted him."

larry, I was refuting engaged's claim that the population is 10% homosexual.

It's showing it as my quote, instead of hers???

This is the second time this afternoon my post has NOT shown what I posted, but came up with a different result.

I have never written in support of homosexuality in any way, shape or form.

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May 3, 2014 22:23:15   #
larry
 
Zemirah wrote:
larry, The first post above was by "engaged." The quote tags are all messed up in the way it is displaying. I corrected it in this post, but the original shows no end between the end of engaged's post and the beginning of mine, so you can't tell where she stopped, and I began.

My post began here where I addressed her by name:

"Engaged, that 10% of humanity being homosexual is a complete misnomer, a deliberate lie perpetuated upon society by the man who first made the false claim.

Alfred Kinsey originally made that claim in the 40's and 50's, and his research was discredited long ago. Kinsey was a sexual pervert and predator, a homosexual paedophile - a pederast, actually, as he pursued and sometimes successfully seduced the young men who assisted him."

larry, I was refuting engaged's claim that the population is 10% homosexual.

It's showing it as my quote, instead of hers???

This is the second time this afternoon my post has NOT shown what I posted, but came up with a different result.

I have never written in support of homosexuality in any way, shape or form.
larry, The first post above was by "engaged.&... (show quote)


I APOLOGIZE FOR MY MISTAKE. FORGIVE ME.

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May 3, 2014 22:29:07   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
larry wrote:
I APOLOGIZE FOR MY MISTAKE. FORGIVE ME.


larry, it wasn't in any way your fault.

The machines sometimes become autonomous.

The page should have automatically shown where engaged's post ended, and then, where mine began.

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May 3, 2014 23:34:32   #
larry
 
engaged wrote:
Quote from larry

What makes you think, that homosexuals are h**ed? It is not the person that is h**ed, it is what they do that is outside of the sensibility of marriage. The purpose of marriage, is to form a consistent and trusting relationship in order to provide a basic foundation for offspring. Since the sexual acts of homosexual relationships do not produce an avenue for more people, it is an empty and selfish union that is against the concept of what marriage is all about. Suppose all selfish acts were to be honored by society, where then would cooperation stand, and what would society be?


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How can you say that all gay partnerships are an "empty and selfish union?" How many gay families are in your life? I know several couples, both male and female, who have children. Some born naturally to one of the lesbian couple through artificial insemination, some gays use surrogate mothers using their own sperm, both adopt - usually older, immigrant, hard-to-adopt children.

The couples I know make a special point of giving their children complete free reign in the "straight" world. They build a community around them that includes positive role models of both sexes. Although their children know their parents are gay, they also know that people are born that way or they're not. Homosexuality is NOT hereditary.

As to your final statement, "where then would cooperation stand?", I see a Congress that refuses to work together, where the top 10% ignore the less fortunate, where greed and consumerism dominate the culture? I'm afraid that America has gone way past selfish.

Homosexuality is not selfish; it is a reality. Among all life forms there is a constant 10% who are wired to seek love with their own kind. I know that you cannot see this because you take the Bible literally. I honor your right to do so. But be Christian in your compassion and acceptance. Jesus was.
Quote from larry br br What makes you think, that... (show quote)


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How can you say that all gay partnerships are an "empty and selfish union?" How many gay families are in your life? I know several couples, both male and female, who have children. Some born naturally to one of the lesbian couple through artificial insemination, some gays use surrogate mothers using their own sperm, both adopt - usually older, immigrant, hard-to-adopt children.


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Of course it is a selfish way to procreate, however, I would rather see couples raising children properly than aborting them. The only reason these gay couples adopt or have natural children is because they do not know how to give up their desire to be in control of their will rather than subject it to the will of God.

You can try to cover up depravity by using a false compassion, but it is not going to work with anyone. Homosexual unions are not natural, and trying to make them so is just pandering to a social sickness. Jesus did not accept homosexual unions or homosexual non unions because they are not part of the scheme of procreation. No matter that there are "gay" couples raising someone else-s child, they are bound to warp the natural tendency of the child's thinking. Religion is not the only social group that calls it a depravity, but it is the most vociferous. Rightly so, because that way of life God it is anathema. Sodom and Gomorrah are set as an example of how God feels about it.

larry

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May 3, 2014 23:58:31   #
rumitoid
 
BoJester wrote:
...if they repent their sins, but not for being gay.

Suddenly Franklin has expanded his mind and realizes that young evangelicals are more accepting of the gays in in the church. Even franklin admits he is a sinner just like a gay person may be a sinner.

A lot of the very fearful, terrified h********c bigots who claim to be christians will have to re-think their bias, fears and hatred if they want to get into franklin's vision of heaven

It will be fun watching so-called "conservative christian" heads explode.



http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/04/this-week-panel-are-evangelicals-out-of-touch-with-mainstream-views/
...if they repent their sins, but not for being ga... (show quote)


Why does being gay top the list of sins? Those who contribute to various churches are divorced, a sin equal to being gay. Where is the outrage!

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May 4, 2014 00:10:27   #
Deniseras
 
Me myself wish to live in a country where this is not an issue. someone s sexual preference is no ones business but their own. If I wanted to live in a country dictated by religion I would move into the Middle East

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May 5, 2014 11:45:37   #
larry
 
rhomin57 wrote:
Carnival ride, water skiing, picnics, tree climbing, visiting old museums, etc. These answers are from kids.


Ok, I get it now, fun is any activity that feels good, and does not do any harm to anyone. Or any activity that improves social relationships, and advances the standing of human life in the eyes of everyone involved. Usually limited to children that have no ulterior motive in the indulgence of such activities. It can be conversation, physical activity, mental activity, or selfish activity as long as no harm or insult is included.

So insulting, trickery, and disparagement are all ok as long as we are just having fun. Right?

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May 5, 2014 11:49:08   #
larry
 
rumitoid wrote:
Why does being gay top the list of sins? Those who contribute to various churches are divorced, a sin equal to being gay. Where is the outrage!


Being gay or divorced and in adultery, are all human foibles against the laws of God, but we are not the judge of the event, we are meant to lead the trespasser to forgiveness. We are not to pass judgement, just lead them to the available grace and return to God's definition of right behavior. Go, confess, and sin no more.

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May 5, 2014 11:53:52   #
larry
 
Deniseras wrote:
Me myself wish to live in a country where this is not an issue. someone s sexual preference is no ones business but their own. If I wanted to live in a country dictated by religion I would move into the Middle East


Religion is not dictative, it is meant to lead a person to right living, If you choose not to try to eradicate your sins from your life, that is your choice. If you find a religion that condemns you instead of helping you, get away from it. It is a false religion. If you do not find love in any of them, they are not truly from God, but from some impostor. God tells us what is right and wrong from His advantage point. Who else knows better than the creator.

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May 5, 2014 15:49:06   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Deniseras wrote:
Me myself wish to live in a country where this is not an issue. someone s sexual preference is no ones business but their own. If I wanted to live in a country dictated by religion I would move into the Middle East


Well you are in the wrong country then.
It seems to be an issue in our schools, for the PC police,
your place of business, churches, all politics, sports, advertising, TV shows, and every facet of the gov now.

New American Civic Religion Rejects Christianity—What it Means
By Kelly OConnell May 5, 2014

A recent event in Los Angeles, California, bizarrely illustrates the madhouse that unfettered application of Political Correctness has created in America. Morality has become a land of shifting sands and anyone can get slapped down like a miscreant at a moment’s notice. A local college sought a commencement speaker for their graduation ceremony.

The first person chosen was a homosexual male. Oscar-winning screenwriter Dustin Lance Black was invited to be Pasadena City College’s commencement speaker. But, before the speech date, sex pics surfaced of this man with a boyfriend, and leaked onto the Internet. Embarrassed, the school invited another speaker—Pasadena Public Health Director Eric Walsh. Yet, before Walsh could deliver, tapes of him next surfaced. He is also pastor of a local Christian denomination, where he condemned the local school district for pandering to gays, and he slammed evolution.

And so what did the school do? What any upstanding, modern, socially aware, educational institution would do in this situation—they re-invited the first man pictured performing homosexual acts. (The amateur gay porn star has yet to respond.) What is the message here? That being pictured doing reckless and obscene acts isn’t nearly as bad as being a “bigot.” Of course, being “bigoted” today means you simply agree with up to 70% of Americans that the Bible’s statements about morality are correct. But is it sane, fair, or even safe to sanction anyone who dares criticize gay rights, while giving sexual adventurers a permanent green light? Is all morality now defined in PC terms? If so, why? And do all who run afoul of PC standards deserve to be driven into the wilderness?

And so we would be remiss not to sum up the general elements of the classic American civil religion: Hard work, thrift, honesty, Christian forgiveness, sexual chastity, respect for authority, family mindedness, concern for justice, character over worldly success, courage, civic dedication, independence, knowledge of the Bible, military strength, church attendance, open mindedness, care for the poor, widow and orphan, prayer, faith, modesty, and patriotism.
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May 5, 2014 20:32:47   #
larry
 
[quote-bdamage], And so we would be remiss not to sum up the general elements of the classic American civil religion: Hard work, thrift, honesty, Christian forgiveness, sexual chastity, respect for authority, family mindedness, concern for justice, character over worldly success, courage, civic dedication, independence, knowledge of the Bible, military strength, church attendance, open mindedness, care for the poor, widow and orphan, prayer, faith, modesty, and patriotism.[/quote]

Most homosexual acts, do not affect normal people unless the acts are shoved into our faces by blatant disrespect of those that do not indulge or find those acts repulsive. So the persons involved in them should not make an issue of it and try to claim it is a natural and society sanctioned activity. Which it is not except to other practitioners. It is the Liberal/socialist/progressive society that is trying to force special attention to a depravity. We that do not believe it should be practiced in public, should just ignore it, and let those that promote it know that we look at it the same as murder, thievery, greed, adultery, courteousness, brutality, lying, and any other activity that is depraving. Show pity on their choice and se******n of their favorite sin, but do not encourage or promote it in any way. If gay people want to indulge in those practices, let them do it out of normal societal parameters. It is their path to social anathema.

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May 5, 2014 21:26:06   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
larry wrote:
Most homosexual acts, do not affect normal people unless the acts are shoved into our faces by blatant disrespect of those that do not indulge or find those acts repulsive. So the persons involved in them should not make an issue of it and try to claim it is a natural and society sanctioned activity. Which it is not except to other practitioners. It is the Liberal/socialist/progressive society that is trying to force special attention to a depravity. We that do not believe it should be practiced in public, should just ignore it, and let those that promote it know that we look at it the same as murder, thievery, greed, adultery, courteousness, brutality, lying, and any other activity that is depraving. Show pity on their choice and se******n of their favorite sin, but do not encourage or promote it in any way. If gay people want to indulge in those practices, let them do it out of normal societal parameters. It is their path to social anathema.
Most homosexual acts, do not affect normal people ... (show quote)


To sum up your statement......the acceptance and normalization of the gay lifestyle is the Trojan Horse of totalitarianism.

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May 6, 2014 09:25:28   #
larry
 
bdamage wrote:
To sum up your statement......the acceptance and normalization of the gay lifestyle is the Trojan Horse of totalitarianism.


Right, but we do not have to be fooled with this mockery as the Trojans were, they in their desire to feel victorious, were lulled into complacent destruction. The problem is, the gifters overcame the giftees by the same kind of liberal stupidity. They should have kept the horse in the wilderness

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