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Sep 21, 2018 13:59:19   #
debeda
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Perhaps you haven't been reading the papers or watching the news, PR. The accusation against Kavanaugh is quite clear; even explicit. And as Kavanaugh himself has issued a precise denial already, it is clear he knows what the accusation is. Your comment here seems disingenuous to me.


Clear and explicit?? Okay. When specifically did this happen? Where specifically did it happen? Who specifically was present at the time? Do you know how silly you sound?

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Sep 21, 2018 14:00:12   #
debeda
 
proud republican wrote:
My biggest problem with all of this BS is timing!!!Why did she waited until the 11th hour to come out...If it wasnt political, then she should of come out as soon as she found out that Judge Kavanaugh is a nominee for a Superior Court and not wait untll 1 week before v****g...And what happened to INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY????


My problem with all this b.s. is that it's ALL b.s.

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Sep 21, 2018 14:12:23   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
debeda wrote:
Clear and explicit?? Okay. When specifically did this happen? Where specifically did it happen? Who specifically was present at the time? Do you know how silly you sound?


I'm simply calling out that the accusation has been all over the news and that Kavanaugh himself has denied it directly. Unless you have been living in complete darkness I cannot imagine how you might have missed this.

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Sep 21, 2018 14:16:34   #
debeda
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I'm simply calling out that the accusation has been all over the news and that Kavanaugh himself has denied it directly. Unless you have been living in complete darkness I cannot imagine how you might have missed this.


Yes, the accusation has been all over the news. The accusation is neither clear nor explicit.

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Sep 21, 2018 14:40:27   #
Gatsby
 
proud republican wrote:
Something else smell bad in this whole thing.....Dr.Ford wants Judge Kavanaugh go first.....Ihave a question...How can he defend himself if he doesnt know what he is accused of???....Of course she has to go firs!!!What a stupid request!!!....t


Stalling, not for the most opportune moment, but only for the sake of delay!

Delay until after the e******n, hoping to gain a majority in the Senate, so that they can keep Kennedy's seat open until 2021.

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Sep 21, 2018 15:13:41   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
debeda wrote:
My problem with all this b.s. is that it's ALL b.s.


I have the strong suspicion that you might feel differently had you been the one had been abused and making the accusation.

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Sep 21, 2018 15:15:25   #
debeda
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I have the strong suspicion that you might feel differently had you been the one had been abused and making the accusation.


I have the feeling - no actually the knowledge- that when something like this happens to a female their memory is not the least hazy about it.

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Sep 21, 2018 15:17:31   #
Kevyn
 
proud republican wrote:
Democrats and celebrities already pronounced Judge Kavanaugh guilty!!!1...Presumption of innocence is gone out of window!!!1....One Democratic Senator said "We have to believe Dr.Ford!!".....That means Judge Kavanaugh doesnt stand a chance....That is very scary,because i have son...So any woman from his past can accuse him of something awful and we have to believe her just because she is a woman???That is very unfair....Or...There could be another reason for all this circus to happen...Could it be, the reason all this is happening is because Judge Kavanaugh is registered Republican and was nominated by Republican President????...Oh no, you say!!That cant be why its happening!!!....Our Judiciary system is fair, you say......Well, case in point my friends...Keith Ellison...DNC chair assistant or wh**ever he is!!1...His girlfriend complained to DNC that he beat her and assaulted her...She even had medical records, bruises on her face....Dr's notes that noted all her abuse...She showed all this to DNC and what did they say to her???According to victim they said "We dont believe you!!".....He also won nomination for Attorney General. of MASS..Really???...Really???,,So let me get this straight!!!You believe a woman who has no prove of anything happening, no bruises,no witnesses, doesnt remember where it happen, what year it happen...But she is a registered Democrat and most important she is anti -Trump!!!So she MUST be believed!!!.....Wow!!!...I wonder if Judge Kavanaugh was nominated by Obama, would we be going through this circus today???I think we all know the answer!!!
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Democrats and celebrities already pronounced Judge... (show quote)

He is not being investigated or charged with a crime, this is simply an investigation to discover if he has the high standard of character to sit on the nations highest court.

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Sep 21, 2018 15:20:20   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I'm simply calling out that the accusation has been all over the news and that Kavanaugh himself has denied it directly. Unless you have been living in complete darkness I cannot imagine how you might have missed this.


Paul, are you the dude who fondled my drunk friend at a party in 1980?
That could have been you! He's always wondered, and wants closure.
Maybe I'll tell him to accuse you so he can get on with his tortured life.
Of course, you'll have to compensate him handsomely since you are responsible for all of his bad decisions via his accusation.
Can he prove it? Probably not.
But, most importantly, can you disprove it?
I'll message him now.

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Sep 21, 2018 15:22:24   #
debeda
 
archie bunker wrote:
Paul, are you the dude who fondled my drunk friend at a party in 1980?
That could have been you! He's always wondered, and wants closure.
Maybe I'll tell him to accuse you so he can get on with his tortured life.
Of course, you'll have to compensate him handsomely since you are responsible for all of his bad decisions via his accusation.
Can he prove it? Probably not.
But, most importantly, can you disprove it?
I'll message him now.



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Sep 21, 2018 15:46:38   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Kevyn wrote:
He is not being investigated or charged with a crime, this is simply an investigation to discover if he has the high standard of character to sit on the nations highest court.


According to your party he already been found guilty without presumption of innocence......

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Sep 21, 2018 15:47:53   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
archie bunker wrote:
Paul, are you the dude who fondled my drunk friend at a party in 1980?
That could have been you! He's always wondered, and wants closure.
Maybe I'll tell him to accuse you so he can get on with his tortured life.
Of course, you'll have to compensate him handsomely since you are responsible for all of his bad decisions via his accusation.
Can he prove it? Probably not.
But, most importantly, can you disprove it?
I'll message him now.



If your friend has a credible claim I think it is everyone's obligation to explore it. I was living in Chapel Hill in North Carolina in 1980. Was he there? Does he have a record of having spoken with his spouse and therapist about the incident?

I completely understand how many are uncomfortable with the timing of this revelation. But all abuse accusations deserve to be explored.

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Sep 21, 2018 15:49:13   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
debeda wrote:
I have the feeling - no actually the knowledge- that when something like this happens to a female their memory is not the least hazy about it.


So you agree that the accusation deserves to be explored?

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Sep 21, 2018 15:50:00   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
PaulPisces wrote:
If your friend has a credible claim I think it is everyone's obligation to explore it. I was living in Chapel Hill in North Carolina in 1980. Was he there? Does he have a record of having spoken with his spouse and therapist about the incident?

I completely understand how many are uncomfortable with the timing of this revelation. But all abuse accusations deserve to be explored.


And the person who is being accused also deserves to be heard without presumption of guilt....

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Sep 21, 2018 15:57:03   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
proud republican wrote:
And the person who is being accused also deserves to be heard without presumption of guilt....


Exactly!

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