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Sep 21, 2018 10:56:32   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
It’s time for all you lefties to open your eyes and see the t***h before it’s too late. If you enjoy sending these insulting jabs at those on the right, just remember under the system you’re advocating that will not be allowed. You will keep your traps shut In Fear of offending someone a little higher up than you. It won’t be a gimme society anymore.


This is what bothers you?

Old marine is saying those whom he disagrees with politically are not bullet proof. Not a word from you.

Let someone point that out and off you go.....and you make no sense. You claim that under 'our' system we will no longer be allowed to send insults for fear of offending someone higher up than us. If it's our system wouldn't those higher ups be on our side?
And if those higher up were to be feared, then they wouldn't be on our side so it wouldn't be our system.

My eyes are wide open....

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Sep 21, 2018 11:05:12   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
working class stiff wrote:
This is what bothers you?

Old marine is saying those whom he disagrees with politically are not bullet proof. Not a word from you.

Let someone point that out and off you go.....and you make no sense. You claim that under 'our' system we will no longer be allowed to send insults for fear of offending someone higher up than us. If it's our system wouldn't those higher ups be on our side?
And if those higher up were to be feared, then they wouldn't be on our side so it wouldn't be our system.

My eyes are wide open....
This is what bothers you? br br Old marine is s... (show quote)


The old F*** is just babbling his normal BS.

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Sep 21, 2018 11:30:03   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
permafrost wrote:
Such a jaundiced view of reality.. who told you all this? Some right wing fish wrap?

All this emotion from the people who wanted a p*******e to hold office from the state of Georgia.

Now you want a person who at best was a teen age alcoholic.. by his own admission.

What next, you will want to be like Venezuela and head the SC with a convicted and time served murderer? Nice ambition..

While I do not care what someone has done as a teen, it points to his charictor and in this case we need to address that point..

My issue is that Kavanaugh has publicly expressed the idea that the President can not be charged or investigated. that he is above the law..

That is the reason trump wants him on the court. he foresees a probable case going all the way to the SC and he is looking for protection as always..
Such a jaundiced view of reality.. who told you al... (show quote)


You obviously have no understanding of alcoholism, it doesn't exist only at certain time of one's life. If he was an alcoholic then, he is still an alcoholic. Don't conflate alcoholism with stupid teenage boy's macho attempts, to be adults, by drinking without any concept of restraint or knowledge of the severity of intoxication with heavy drinking.

Your cartoons are stupid as well. Barak Obama finally produced a birth certificate that has been conclusively demonstrated to be a forgery. I don't know where he was born and to me it didn't matter because if the constitution was interpreted as the founders commonly understood the term "Natural Born Citizen" Obama was not eligible to be president because his father was not a US citizen.

Kavanaugh may or may not have expressed the idea that the president cannot be charged via Grand Jury, while he is president but Richard Nixon can attest that the other means of removing and convicting him are quite effective. It took a P**********l pardon from Gerald Ford to exempt him from prosecution.

You quibble about procedural mechanisms while ignoring the fact that a man is being convicted without due process or ever being allowed to face his accuser. Further, being a public figure, he has no recourse in civil courts for damages caused to his reputation and economic prospects, by what is an unfounded , uncorroborated accusation of events that may have taken place 35 years ago during a drunken, teenager's party.

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Sep 21, 2018 11:48:54   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
pafret wrote:
You obviously have no understanding of alcoholism, it doesn't exist only at certain time of one's life. If he was an alcoholic then, he is still an alcoholic. Don't conflate alcoholism with stupid teenage boy's macho attempts, to be adults, by drinking without any concept of restraint or knowledge of the severity of intoxication with heavy drinking.

Your cartoons are stupid as well. Barak Obama finally produced a birth certificate that has been conclusively demonstrated to be a forgery. I don't know where he was born and to me it didn't matter because if the constitution was interpreted as the founders commonly understood the term "Natural Born Citizen" Obama was not eligible to be president because his father was not a US citizen.

Kavanaugh may or may not have expressed the idea that the president cannot be charged via Grand Jury, while he is president but Richard Nixon can attest that the other means of removing and convicting him are quite effective. It took a P**********l pardon from Gerald Ford to exempt him from prosecution.

You quibble about procedural mechanisms while ignoring the fact that a man is being convicted without due process or ever being allowed to face his accuser. Further, being a public figure, he has no recourse in civil courts for damages caused to his reputation and economic prospects, by what is an unfounded , uncorroborated accusation of events that may have taken place 35 years ago during a drunken, teenager's party.
You obviously have no understanding of alcoholism,... (show quote)




The reason Kavanaugh is being pushed to the SC is that the criminal in the white house wants future protection.

Alcoholism is a life long disease, the fact that it surfaces when a teenager should be known by all.

You cling to your wish that President Obama was not illegible.. No matter how many times it has been shown to be a right wing lie.. you will never let it go.

It is the last of your dying hope that President was not the good man the worlds declares him to be.. And just who do you dream that "proved" the BC was a forgery??

Only in your night dreams.. you people will never give up you h**e and lies.. but you whine like children when we wish the full legal recourse.. Hypocrites!!!!



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Sep 21, 2018 14:21:41   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
permafrost wrote:
The reason Kavanaugh is being pushed to the SC is that the criminal in the white house wants future protection.

Alcoholism is a life long disease, the fact that it surfaces when a teenager should be known by all.

You cling to your wish that President Obama was not illegible.. No matter how many times it has been shown to be a right wing lie.. you will never let it go.

It is the last of your dying hope that President was not the good man the worlds declares him to be.. And just who do you dream that "proved" the BC was a forgery??

Only in your night dreams.. you people will never give up you h**e and lies.. but you whine like children when we wish the full legal recourse.. Hypocrites!!!!
The reason Kavanaugh is being pushed to the SC is ... (show quote)


"You cling to your wish that President Obama was not illegible.(sic)" President Obama was quite legible, he could be read like a book. I never doubted his legitimacy although I have possibly maligned him, by calling him a bastard. I questioned his use of forged instrument to prove his eligibility for e******n to the office and I indicated that it is of no concern whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii.

What I maintained is that according to "The Law of Nations Or, Principles of the Law of Nature Applied to the Conduct and Affairs of Nations and Sovereigns” published in 1758 by Emerich de Vattel, a Natural Born Citizen is defined as a person born of two Citizen parents, on the territory, of the nation involved. This book was in common usage for terminology and is referenced in the writings of many of the Founding Fathers, particularly on this point. A natural born citizen must have two citizen parents, not one and he must be born on US Territory.

Given these constraints, not only was Obama not eligible to become President, but also Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Bobbie Jindal were not eligible. The basic reason they had their hats in the ring is that Obama got away with it so they might as well try. This is precisely what the founding fathers wished to prevent. They wanted Presidents who were imbued with the American independent spirit and no influence by any foreign sovereignty even so remotely as having a foreign national as a parent.

Obama’s lack of candor and concealment of his personal history lays him open to all of the scurrilous charges and stories which have circulated about him. In his own words “The only people who don’t want to disclose the t***h are people with something to hide”

Here is a video of Mister Candor making that statement.

https://youtu.be/bhFB7-w2MY8

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Sep 21, 2018 16:31:11   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
pafret wrote:
"You cling to your wish that President Obama was not illegible.(sic)" President Obama was quite legible, he could be read like a book. I never doubted his legitimacy although I have possibly maligned him, by calling him a bastard. I questioned his use of forged instrument to prove his eligibility for e******n to the office and I indicated that it is of no concern whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii.

What I maintained is that according to "The Law of Nations Or, Principles of the Law of Nature Applied to the Conduct and Affairs of Nations and Sovereigns” published in 1758 by Emerich de Vattel, a Natural Born Citizen is defined as a person born of two Citizen parents, on the territory, of the nation involved. This book was in common usage for terminology and is referenced in the writings of many of the Founding Fathers, particularly on this point. A natural born citizen must have two citizen parents, not one and he must be born on US Territory.

Given these constraints, not only was Obama not eligible to become President, but also Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Bobbie Jindal were not eligible. The basic reason they had their hats in the ring is that Obama got away with it so they might as well try. This is precisely what the founding fathers wished to prevent. They wanted Presidents who were imbued with the American independent spirit and no influence by any foreign sovereignty even so remotely as having a foreign national as a parent.

Obama’s lack of candor and concealment of his personal history lays him open to all of the scurrilous charges and stories which have circulated about him. In his own words “The only people who don’t want to disclose the t***h are people with something to hide”

Here is a video of Mister Candor making that statement.

https://youtu.be/bhFB7-w2MY8
b "You cling to your wish that President Oba... (show quote)




We have something from 1758 in our constitutional law? Wow, who would have believed that?

I understand the right wing wanting to talk about Obama and what they have wished for about a decade now.

But as time moves on, new problems need to be faced. these problems all have an orange tinge to them and are more lasting then the fact so many on the right could not handle that Obama person..

We will simply have to let history show that Obama was one of the best, and we were (i hope) damn lucky to escape the orange desperado..

We could exchange rants for a while, but I have grown a bit tired of that.. If it were not so cold and windy today, I think I would be doing a little bit of something else..

I will v**e and contribute and do a little work for the Local Dem candidate and hope that our country can return to the top leadership role we held for so long..



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Sep 21, 2018 16:39:54   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Hardwork1 wrote:
Last week I wrote about why I did not feel capable of adequately describing what I was seeing and hearing the Democrats, MSM and RINO Republicans say and do. As I watched and listened to them this week I was literally overcome with the same thoughts and feelings. I also thought about something I wrote recently about how obsessed the Democrats, MSM and RINO Republicans are with their “Egos, Money and POWER”. I am absolutely certain that this is ultimately all they care about with the number one obsession being “Power”, and they will say and do anything to remain in “Power”! Their egos are insatiable and they need “POWER” to feed them. They all have money and with “POWER they can keep it and add to it. Consequently they will never give up their “Power” regardless of the damage their actions do to America and the world.

Here are a few examples of what the Democrats, MSM and RINO Republicans said and did publicly this week:

After the Democrats brutalized Judge Kavanaugh in his Senate committee confirmation hearings, which they lost badly, they went public with a political version of a nuclear weapon. They leaked an anonymous letter that a woman allegedly gave to Senator Feinstein alleging that Judge Kavanaugh physically assaulted her and attempted to sexually assault her 35 or 36 years ago at a drunken party attended by high school students. This story has changed hourly since Senator Feinstein went public with the accusation. According to Feinstein she had the information since July but the woman did not want to go public. Not much could be further from the t***h! The initial contact was a two hour private interview with California Congresswoman Eshoo IN JULY! Obviously all the Democrats have known about this since Eshoo’s initial contact and carefully coordinated their efforts (with the MSM’s eager assistance) to destroy Judge Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court nomination, AND ULTIMATELY PREVENT PRESIDENT TRUMP FROM EVER APPOINTING ANOTHER SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. With the help of the RINO Republicans this might actually happen! During his long career in public service Judge Kavanaugh has been heavily vetted six times by the FBI without the vetting’s ever producing a single blemish on his record. Meanwhile the accuser decided to go public while represented by a lawyer who is a Democratic activist (according to the lawyer’s public statements). Then the accuser immediately changed her position through a second Democrat activist lawyer, who is an active member of a George Soros funded anti-democracy group. This lawyer announced that the accuser would not testify before the Senate committee or anyone else until her allegations were fully investigated by the FBI! Every credible expert that I have seen interviewed publicly about this demand said it is not a reasonable request by any stretch of the imagination. For instance the statute of limitations has long since expired and even it
had not this complaint must be filed with the local authorities as an attempted assault. Other legal experts pointed out that no one has the right to demand an FBI investigation when no formal complaint has been filed anywhere and the due process requirements in our system of justice have not been fulfilled. Obviously the accuser is being manipulated and used by the America hating Democrats and the MSM and she is now a victim herself. Wh**ever happens as a result of her unsubstantiated allegations she and her family will never get their lives back.

There is so much information about the Kavanaugh nomination “carefully coordinated political hit job” that I cannot begin to properly detail it all here. The fact that the Democrats immediately put Anita Hill before the MSM cameras to loudly denounce how badly she was treated in the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings proves that they have been planning this for months and left ”no stone unturned”. Meanwhile the physical assault complaint that has been filed against Keith Ellison (AKA Keith Hakim) the current Illinois Congressman, number two person in the Democratic National Committee and soon to be the Illinois Attorney General has been buried. It has been totally buried in spite of the facts that the complaint was filed by his former girlfriend with graphic details about the assault and two different Doctor’s reports that confirm that she sustained physical injuries during the assault. Ellison’s “Keith Hakim” name was the Muslim name he used when he was active in the radical “Nation of Islam” organization prior to entering public life. As usual he always gets a pass on this and the recent assault charge whenever he is speaking to the public or the MSM asks him questions about anything.

Remember Mary Jo Kopechne? In 1969 she drowned in Senator Ted Kennedy’s car when he was drunk driving and ran off the Chappaquiddick bridge. He managed to get out of the car, walk home and went to sleep while she SLOWLY drowned! All because he did not want a DUI charge on his record or that it be made public that he was at private “parties’ with young women and alcohol. He was never charged with any crimes and was continually re-elected to the Senate until he died in office in 2009. He became known as “The Lion of the Senate” AND WAS EVEN GIVEN A STATE FUNERAL WHEN HE DIED. But now the Democrats, MSM and RINO Republicans are executing a perfectly coordinated political hit job on Judge Kavanaugh using a 35 or 36 year old unsubstantiated complaint. While this is happening no one in the MSM has asked any of the Kavanaugh attackers how the unsubstantiated claim against him compares to what Kennedy did?

And let’s not forget Bill Clinton’s endless sexual escapades over decades. In spite of this Hillary is going public again along with Obama and Biden attacking President Trump, his Administration and his supporters for ”destroying all the good the previous administration accomplished for America”. Hillary even published an op-ed in “The Atlantic” attacking President Trump and then went on the MSM talk show circuit to pontificate about how much damage Trump has done to America and what Trump is going to do immediately after the November 6 e******n, even if he loses the House or Senate. Among other ridiculous claims she said that he would immediately embark on a massive firing spree throughout the Federal Government, including in his Administration (I hope that he does). While all this is happening no one in the MSM has asked anyone on the Left how the alleged Kavanaugh complaint compares to Bill’s decades long history of sexual misconduct and assaults!

As I said earlier, everything the Democrats, MSM and RINO Republicans are saying and doing is part of a carefully planned and coordinated effort to take back the House and Senate on November 6 so they can totally take back control of America. If they do there will not be a Supreme Court Judge appointed as long as President Trump is in office. Also if they take back control of the House radical Democrats will become the chairperson of every House Committee. The same is true for the Senate! For example Maxine Waters will become Chairperson of the “House Banking and Finance Committee”, Congressman Nadler will become Chairperson of the “House Judiciary Committee” and Adam Schiff will become chairperson of the “House Intelligence Committee”. And these are only the tip of the ice berg! This is absolutely terrifying to me!

Those of us who want America to be “great again” must not be silent. We must continue to stand up and support President Trump’s tireless efforts to “make America great again”, especially at the b****t box! When you consider the open dishonesty that is happening in politics in America now, I am firmly convinced that the November 6 mid-term e******ns is now tied with the November 2016 P**********l e******n as the most important e******n in my lifetime!
Last week I wrote about why I did not feel capable... (show quote)
That's what you call an artillery barrage. Hell of a strike. Good job.

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Sep 21, 2018 16:54:50   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
You are a real nut case.
The liberal progs on this board are like a swarm of mosquitoes, buzzing around with their stingers primed to suck more blood from the American people. The first OPP lib prog honest enough to admit that what they want is an American Venezuela, I'll send him or her a certified check for 10.000 Yankee pesos. That way they can stock up on toilet paper before the country turns to shyte.

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Sep 21, 2018 17:13:37   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The liberal progs on this board are like a swarm of mosquitoes, buzzing around with their stingers primed to suck more blood from the American people. The first OPP lib prog honest enough to admit that what they want is an American Venezuela, I'll send him or her a certified check for 10.000 Yankee pesos. That way they can stock up on toilet paper before the country turns to shyte.


Without us liberals on the board you guys would be doing circle jerks.

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Sep 21, 2018 17:16:54   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
permafrost wrote:
We have something from 1758 in our constitutional law? Wow, who would have believed that?

I understand the right wing wanting to talk about Obama and what they have wished for about a decade now.

But as time moves on, new problems need to be faced. these problems all have an orange tinge to them and are more lasting then the fact so many on the right could not handle that Obama person..

We will simply have to let history show that Obama was one of the best, and we were (i hope) damn lucky to escape the orange desperado..

We could exchange rants for a while, but I have grown a bit tired of that.. If it were not so cold and windy today, I think I would be doing a little bit of something else..

I will v**e and contribute and do a little work for the Local Dem candidate and hope that our country can return to the top leadership role we held for so long..
We have something from 1758 in our constitutional ... (show quote)


Did you think our Constitution sprang whole cloth from Thomas Jefferson's head? There is a huge body of philosophers, statesmen and advanced political thinking, which is represented in our Constitution. Freedom was not born here, it was nurtured and raised to adulthood, in this nation, but it rested on the work of many men, religious sects and free thinkers.

Obama is as much of a liar as Hillary Clinton in her best days. Obama was simply too Un-American to be abided.

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Sep 21, 2018 17:19:48   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
pafret wrote:
Did you think our Constitution sprang whole cloth from Thomas Jefferson's head? There is a huge body of philosophers, statesmen and advanced political thinking, which is represented in our Constitution. Freedom was not born here, it was nurtured and raised to adulthood, in this nation but it rested on the work of many men, religious sects and free thinkers.

Obma is as much of a liar as Hillary Clinton in her best days. Obama was simply too Un-American to be abided.


You mean not white enough?

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Sep 21, 2018 17:27:33   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
pafret wrote:
Did you think our Constitution sprang whole cloth from Thomas Jefferson's head? There is a huge body of philosophers, statesmen and advanced political thinking, which is represented in our Constitution. Freedom was not born here, it was nurtured and raised to adulthood, in this nation but it rested on the work of many men, religious sects and free thinkers.

Obma is as much of a liar as Hillary Clinton in her best days. Obama was simply too Un-American to be abided.




Gee, i thought it all came from the Iroquois Indians and Greeks in Greece..

Are you still chasing lady Hillary after failing for over 20 years of non stop pursuit to even get one indictment on the poor old girl?

As for President Obama, as much as he was h**ed by McConnell and his henchmen, if they had found any scrap of a chance, they would have leaped on it..

The goodness of the great will forever shine on and shine on..



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Sep 21, 2018 17:33:54   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Bad Bob wrote:
You mean not white enough?


No, half white is close enough I meant C*******t, Moslem Sympathizer, G*******t Un-American. The problem with you b****s is that you forever filter everything through your skin color victim lens when no such intention was meant. It hinders your comprehension and reinforces the opinion that you are all stupid.

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Sep 21, 2018 17:38:19   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
pafret wrote:
No, half white is close enough I meant C*******t, Moslem Sympathizer, G*******t Un-American. The problem with you b****s is that you forever filter everything through your skin color victim lens when no such intention was meant. It hinders your comprehension and reinforces the opinion that you are all stupid.


"You b****s" ??? I think I was right the first time.

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Sep 21, 2018 17:50:04   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Bad Bob wrote:
"You b****s" ??? I think I was right the first time.


What specifically, did you think you were right about?

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