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Sep 20, 2018 08:15:31   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
If you had any doubt this was anything but a delay tactic, this morning’s developments should dispel your doubt.

Brett Kavanaugh was sailing to inevitable confirmation before Dianne Feinstein’s last-minute smear/ambush, and that put Democrats in a state of emergency. If Kavanaugh is confirmed, their last hope of a liberal Supreme Court majority could be lost for at least a generation. If you want to know why that represents the political equivalent of a nuclear meltdown, understand that Democrats routinely run to federal judges to impose policies they can’t achieve legislatively (or block policies they can’t stop any other way).

The judiciary does not have the constitutional authority to do this as extensively as Democrats want them to, and when liberal judges try to push those limits, they inevitably get stomped by a Supreme Court whose majority still believes in constitutionally limited government. Democrats desperately want to change this dynamic, and if Kavanaugh is confirmed, that will become almost impossible to do any time soon.

So the objective is as follows: Delay a v**e on Kavanaugh until

enough nervous Republicans pull away to deny him confirmation;
the mid-term e******ns can intervene and Kavanaugh can no longer be confirmed;
both.

That is why Charles Schumer now wants both the hearings and the v**e delayed until the FBI probes the allegations levelled by Christine Ford. Because the FBI will never do that, and Schumer knows it – and thus, neither the hearings nor the v**e will ever happen. That is the whole game here:

The FBI doesn’t conduct criminal investigations into nominees, especially not into an alleged incident that would not have been a violation of a federal statute. State law would be at issue. That’s why the FBI responded to Ms. Feinstein’s statement last week by saying it had no plans to conduct a criminal probe and merely added Ms. Ford’s letter to Judge Kavanaugh’s background file.

The purpose of a background check is to interview people about the character and qualifications of a nominee. The FBI makes no judgments about the veracity of the people it interviews, and its role isn’t to issue a judgment about the nominee. The FBI simply compiles information that is then submitted to the White House.

If the nomination is for a judgeship confirmable by the Senate, then the White House will forward that information to the Senate Judiciary Committee. If there is an allegation of some kind, the Senate staff will typically follow up with the accuser and the nominee and present the information to Senators, who then make their own judgment as part of their advice and consent power.

The preposterous circumstance in this case is that Senator Feinstein withheld Ms. Ford’s accusations for six weeks from Republicans and the White House. Ms. Feinstein could have turned over Ms. Ford’s letter to the FBI immediately, yet now Democrats are demanding a further delay so the FBI can do what the Senators can do for themselves—which is to interview the nominee and his accuser.

Republicans have invited Mr. Kavanaugh and Ms. Ford to appear on Monday, Mr. Kavanaugh says he’ll show up anywhere or anytime to deny the accusation. Yet by our deadline Tuesday Ms. Ford’s lawyer was still declining to say if her client would appear. Democratic staffers were also refusing to cooperate with Republicans on a schedule to conduct phone calls with Ms. Ford, Judge Kavanaugh, and any relevant witnesses. Such follow-up phone calls are standard procedure after an FBI background check has been completed.

All of this underscores that the main Democratic goal is to delay a confirmation v**e past the November e******n. That would spare Democrats running for re-e******n in Donald Trump states from having to take a difficult confirmation v**e. If Democrats take the Senate majority, they’ll then insist on no v**e until the new Senate convenes in January.


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Democrats will never, ever, be satisfied on this matter, precisely because they refuse to be satisfied. The FBI is not going to say Brett Kavanaugh broke federal law, and because of that, Schumer will say Ms. Ford has been denied justice and therefore Democrats must take up her cause by denying Kavanaugh confirmation.

If Ford doesn’t testify – and it appears as of now she is inclined not to – we will be told she was threatened and intimidated and thus denied her right to be heard. If she does testify and comes off as not being credible, we will be told that ghastly Republicans treated her badly. If she comes off as lucid, she’ll still be telling a tale she can’t prove and Kavanaugh’s denial will result in everyone choosing the side dictated by their partisan inclinations.

There is no way to vindication for Kavanaugh here, regardless of how nonexistent Ford’s evidence is. The very fact that she’s made the allegation is enough for partisan Democrats to demand no v**e on Kavanaugh can ever be held – not when “he is under such a cloud of suspicion.”

A cloud they created based on nothing.

The only proper response from the Republican majority? Call the v**e immediately and confirm Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court, and let Democrats know this kind of garbage will never be rewarded

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Sep 20, 2018 10:06:40   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
People who are not lying don't demand investigations . Merrick Garland was not even heard. Your argument is weak as the third run on a teabag.

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Sep 20, 2018 10:26:45   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Your argument is weaker. Garland has nothing to do with this. The FBI doesn’t even have jurisdiction. What would happen if a woman walked in to her local FBI office and said 36 years ago I was drunk at a party and so and so laid on top of me and groped me. I don’t remember exactly when or where and I got the number of people involved wrong in therapy. The other guy I know was there says he wasn’t. Honestly, I know what the FBI would say to this woman. Do you?
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
People who are not lying don't demand investigations . Merrick Garland was not even heard. Your argument is weak as the third run on a teabag.

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Sep 20, 2018 14:48:11   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
bmac32 wrote:
If you had any doubt this was anything but a delay tactic, this morning’s developments should dispel your doubt.

Brett Kavanaugh was sailing to inevitable confirmation before Dianne Feinstein’s last-minute smear/ambush, and that put Democrats in a state of emergency. If Kavanaugh is confirmed, their last hope of a liberal Supreme Court majority could be lost for at least a generation. If you want to know why that represents the political equivalent of a nuclear meltdown, understand that Democrats routinely run to federal judges to impose policies they can’t achieve legislatively (or block policies they can’t stop any other way).

The judiciary does not have the constitutional authority to do this as extensively as Democrats want them to, and when liberal judges try to push those limits, they inevitably get stomped by a Supreme Court whose majority still believes in constitutionally limited government. Democrats desperately want to change this dynamic, and if Kavanaugh is confirmed, that will become almost impossible to do any time soon.

So the objective is as follows: Delay a v**e on Kavanaugh until

enough nervous Republicans pull away to deny him confirmation;
the mid-term e******ns can intervene and Kavanaugh can no longer be confirmed;
both.

That is why Charles Schumer now wants both the hearings and the v**e delayed until the FBI probes the allegations levelled by Christine Ford. Because the FBI will never do that, and Schumer knows it – and thus, neither the hearings nor the v**e will ever happen. That is the whole game here:

The FBI doesn’t conduct criminal investigations into nominees, especially not into an alleged incident that would not have been a violation of a federal statute. State law would be at issue. That’s why the FBI responded to Ms. Feinstein’s statement last week by saying it had no plans to conduct a criminal probe and merely added Ms. Ford’s letter to Judge Kavanaugh’s background file.

The purpose of a background check is to interview people about the character and qualifications of a nominee. The FBI makes no judgments about the veracity of the people it interviews, and its role isn’t to issue a judgment about the nominee. The FBI simply compiles information that is then submitted to the White House.

If the nomination is for a judgeship confirmable by the Senate, then the White House will forward that information to the Senate Judiciary Committee. If there is an allegation of some kind, the Senate staff will typically follow up with the accuser and the nominee and present the information to Senators, who then make their own judgment as part of their advice and consent power.

The preposterous circumstance in this case is that Senator Feinstein withheld Ms. Ford’s accusations for six weeks from Republicans and the White House. Ms. Feinstein could have turned over Ms. Ford’s letter to the FBI immediately, yet now Democrats are demanding a further delay so the FBI can do what the Senators can do for themselves—which is to interview the nominee and his accuser.

Republicans have invited Mr. Kavanaugh and Ms. Ford to appear on Monday, Mr. Kavanaugh says he’ll show up anywhere or anytime to deny the accusation. Yet by our deadline Tuesday Ms. Ford’s lawyer was still declining to say if her client would appear. Democratic staffers were also refusing to cooperate with Republicans on a schedule to conduct phone calls with Ms. Ford, Judge Kavanaugh, and any relevant witnesses. Such follow-up phone calls are standard procedure after an FBI background check has been completed.

All of this underscores that the main Democratic goal is to delay a confirmation v**e past the November e******n. That would spare Democrats running for re-e******n in Donald Trump states from having to take a difficult confirmation v**e. If Democrats take the Senate majority, they’ll then insist on no v**e until the new Senate convenes in January.


Continued below...

Democrats will never, ever, be satisfied on this matter, precisely because they refuse to be satisfied. The FBI is not going to say Brett Kavanaugh broke federal law, and because of that, Schumer will say Ms. Ford has been denied justice and therefore Democrats must take up her cause by denying Kavanaugh confirmation.

If Ford doesn’t testify – and it appears as of now she is inclined not to – we will be told she was threatened and intimidated and thus denied her right to be heard. If she does testify and comes off as not being credible, we will be told that ghastly Republicans treated her badly. If she comes off as lucid, she’ll still be telling a tale she can’t prove and Kavanaugh’s denial will result in everyone choosing the side dictated by their partisan inclinations.

There is no way to vindication for Kavanaugh here, regardless of how nonexistent Ford’s evidence is. The very fact that she’s made the allegation is enough for partisan Democrats to demand no v**e on Kavanaugh can ever be held – not when “he is under such a cloud of suspicion.”

A cloud they created based on nothing.

The only proper response from the Republican majority? Call the v**e immediately and confirm Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court, and let Democrats know this kind of garbage will never be rewarded
If you had any doubt this was anything but a delay... (show quote)


Well reasoned and correct in every aspect. We need to start agitating our Congress people for an immediate v**e on Kavanaugh's accession to the Supreme Court Judgeship.

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Sep 20, 2018 16:28:47   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Correct as far as we know. Democrats need to take a hard look at themselves.


pafret wrote:
Well reasoned and correct in every aspect. We need to start agitating our Congress people for an immediate v**e on Kavanaugh's accession to the Supreme Court Judgeship.

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Sep 20, 2018 23:31:57   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
JFlorio wrote:
Your argument is weaker. Garland has nothing to do with this. The FBI doesn’t even have jurisdiction. What would happen if a woman walked in to her local FBI office and said 36 years ago I was drunk at a party and so and so laid on top of me and groped me. I don’t remember exactly when or where and I got the number of people involved wrong in therapy. The other guy I know was there says he wasn’t. Honestly, I know what the FBI would say to this woman. Do you?


I don't think so. The Supreme court nomination is not a laughing matter. All points must be considered and if an accusation has been leveled then there must be an investigation. Leave nothing to chance when it is a lifetime appointment..

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Sep 20, 2018 23:47:06   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Investigate what Tom? There’s no crime. Drunk guy laid on a adrunk girl in high school? No assault, no torn clothes, her only witness says it didn’t happen. Where’s his pattern of this type of behavior? His pattern is just the opposite. Her story has changed from her supposed therapy story. No police force would take this case.
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I don't think so. The Supreme court nomination is not a laughing matter. All points must be considered and if an accusation has been leveled then there must be an investigation. Leave nothing to chance when it is a lifetime appointment..

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Sep 21, 2018 06:46:29   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
JFlorio wrote:
Investigate what Tom? There’s no crime. Drunk guy laid on a adrunk girl in high school? No assault, no torn clothes, her only witness says it didn’t happen. Where’s his pattern of this type of behavior? His pattern is just the opposite. Her story has changed from her supposed therapy story. No police force would take this case.
So the thing to do is dismiss the accuser and fast track the nomination?

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Sep 21, 2018 09:52:45   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
She's being given every opportunity. She sure had no trouble with the newspaper people. He's released more documents than the last five justices combined that have to do with the way he sees the "job and has ruled in the past. Look, he's qualified. No doubt. He's to establishment for me but he is qualified. So according to you we shouls possibly ruin some man's career with no proof, a changed story from a far left reactionary.
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
So the thing to do is dismiss the accuser and fast track the nomination?

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Sep 21, 2018 10:35:12   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
JFlorio wrote:
She's being given every opportunity. She sure had no trouble with the newspaper people. He's released more documents than the last five justices combined that have to do with the way he sees the "job and has ruled in the past. Look, he's qualified. No doubt. He's to establishment for me but he is qualified. So according to you we shouls possibly ruin some man's career with no proof, a changed story from a far left reactionary.
Now it is a far left reactionary. Kavenaugh may know a lot about being a judge and the acusser may have been told be here at this time but that does not nullify the facts. The facts need to be examined without Bias before the nomination process is completed.

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Sep 21, 2018 10:45:48   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Tom, just google her. You will admit she’s very far left. There are no facts that are verifiable. It’s he said she said. There is no crime. What is it besides delay you hope to accomplish?
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Now it is a far left reactionary. Kavenaugh may know a lot about being a judge and the acusser may have been told be here at this time but that does not nullify the facts. The facts need to be examined without Bias before the nomination process is completed.

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Sep 21, 2018 12:05:56   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Now it is a far left reactionary. Kavenaugh may know a lot about being a judge and the acusser may have been told be here at this time but that does not nullify the facts. The facts need to be examined without Bias before the nomination process is completed.


Tom, I claim you ran a red light, seventeen years ago in your town and I saw you do it. i also recognized the guy in your truck and named him. Do you think this should be investigated? Not serious enough, well how about I say you were fleeing from the scense of a bank robbery at the time.

What red light, I don't know. Which bank, I don't know. The guy who was in your truck says it didn't happen. Another guy I named, who was standing on the corner says it didn't happen. I identify as a woman so I must be believed and I think the FBI should look into your backgound and see if they find anything before I make formal filing.

After all, you are in contact with the public every day, in your business and I'm sure it would make a difference if they knew they were dealing with a bank robber. Especially after you pistol whipped the teller.

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Sep 21, 2018 19:50:47   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
JFlorio wrote:
Tom, just google her. You will admit she’s very far left. There are no facts that are verifiable. It’s he said she said. There is no crime. What is it besides delay you hope to accomplish?
I would like that there was no delay and that congress would move on but the accusation is serious enough that it must be settled before a v**e can proceed. This is serious and not something to ignore just because it is a pain in the a--

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Sep 21, 2018 19:53:40   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
pafret wrote:
Tom, I claim you ran a red light, seventeen years ago in your town and I saw you do it. i also recognized the guy in your truck and named him. Do you think this should be investigated? Not serious enough, well how about I say you were fleeing from the scense of a bank robbery at the time.

What red light, I don't know. Which bank, I don't know. The guy who was in your truck says it didn't happen. Another guy I named, who was standing on the corner says it didn't happen. I identify as a woman so I must be believed and I think the FBI should look into your backgound and see if they find anything before I make formal filing.

After all, you are in contact with the public every day, in your business and I'm sure it would make a difference if they knew they were dealing with a bank robber. Especially after you pistol whipped the teller.
Tom, I claim you ran a red light, seventeen years ... (show quote)
Wow that's a stretch but I see what you mean

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Sep 21, 2018 20:36:31   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I would like that there was no delay and that congress would move on but the accusation is serious enough that it must be settled before a v**e can proceed. This is serious and not something to ignore just because it is a pain in the a--


She has no witnesses except one, who says he wasn’t there. What is the point of calling witnesses when she admits she can’t recall when and where this happened. How can this he said she said be settled? Gonna make a prediction here. With that old b***h Feinstein now starting to back pedal on the professors memory recollection I believe we will find this just another hit job.

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