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Sep 21, 2018 08:42:37   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh, come now. You con's have no room to be lecturing other people about morals. You did after all v**e for Trump--a serial adulterer and a man who claimed that he had nothing to repent for. If you can't bake a cake for a homosexual because doing so wo?uld make his sin yours than by v****g for Trump you've made his sin your's. Once you can clean up that stench then you can come lecture the rest of us...


Who said I v**ed for Trump petey bird?
You always assume so much.

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Sep 21, 2018 12:01:07   #
clevey77
 
Somewhere out there in left field:
Morality?
No matter our gifts of moral charterer, it seems there is a world of inquiry lost in t***slation of the 10 points… This is not meant to be hyper critical, but, an essay of what it means to be a spiritual entity… i.e., One, who at birth takes his or hers first breath… thereby the consciousness is awakened and breathing life begins the perceptions of mental cognitiv-ism. From there on, it is downhill, in an upward struggle to become emancipated from the dogmas of illusion… Like the concept of Christianity or any other mental factory-based fermentation of the creative mind. These are the concepts of so-called prophets of godly order. Were, men and woman, are given a mythological esteem by the lesser forces of intelligent DNA…? Most all tribal myth came at the ability of memorization, not the written word.

Thusly, we could assume, all the printing presses are controlled by the right of might and the politically correct sycophants of historical time… Needless to say, the so called cognitive written “WORDS” of the gods and the creative force within the mind of the individual. I use gods here, as an expiatory of the purging of false doctrine. Mono theism , the phallic Illusion of the minds of men… not woman, but men. Although the course in polytheism and the study of the Female Goddess is running amiss in the logic that… some how, men create, and women should follow the mass mind set, of the latter… By in large, The Woman is responsible for the mitochondrial DNA and the fermentation's of all the races. I liken it to, the light emanating from the vaginal center of the galaxy… (Wes Penre Papers). Here is where the metaphorical banging becomes an alternate wisdom of forces within the feminine nature… the vaginal vortex of creation and the expansion of light, atomic dark matter and dark energy. The ever-expanding universe and all its galactic outward spiraling stars and any planets spawning life in a frequency that staggers the imagination, as we all may try to perceive it! Which leads me to the next arena of bombastic furtherance of the Christian Identity.

Israel and the Mesopotamian Plain:

Let’s look at the metaphorical context in the new testament, centered on tribal associations in the Mesopotamian cultures’ and Semitic People’s, as well the power of myth in the oral memory of tradition and the struggles of survival. The will to live as nomads, tent dwellers, gypsy’s and trade root raiders of the “Lost Arch” and all booty belonging to the east-west caravans’ of trade … Was there ever an arch? Did these Israelite’s rob and steal from the east west caravans’ and become the merchants of crime and longitude abstract t***h’s in the mists of shamanic self-induced illusions…The dealers of hallucinatory drugs… the A-political format that gave credence to the domination of a cynical war like mentality’s? As well, the rationalization of, Right by Might” and the worrier male image?
Let’s look at the so-called Christian formula for the imperial elite… The founding of the New World and the Doctrine of Discovery and emanate domain! Those that planted the f**g of death on the shores of the new world. Sanctioned by the Papacy, the Christian Kings and Queens ordained as elites which could do no wrong in the eyes of a perverted church and the satanic order of Judaism… Here we can give new meaning of the Money changers, driven from the temples of the gods of the Israelite's… Does this story sound familiar…?

The gods of the golden calf and the worship thereof, the “Right of Might” and the graven images profoundly distorted by men, against nature herself. The vaginal vortex of life and the essence of the feminine expansion of the latter, opposed, to death and destruction of the indigenous peoples of the NEW WORLD… the so-called heathens, (Indians), k**led by Divine right Christianity…sanctioned by the papal-evangelical evil authority, and carried out by the ignorant masses of duped religious insanity! Here, critical thought is lost in t***slation and mass hypnosis…

It seems the deluded still are in power…It does not matter if it is Trump. Hitler, Obama, Benny Netan-yahoo, Margret Teacher, Churchill or Jacob Rothschild… they all follow the illusion of Divine right…and Christianity is as perverted and any other form of control that keeps the illusion of divine right alive in the minds of men… Jesus was a prophet??? Not a god?? Not the all ensuing eye of holiness…??? He may have been a man of vision as he whiteness the lack of critical thinking in organic creatures of his time…A genius with DNA combined in the flesh of a man, living in a labyrinth of vampires and near-do-wells and political junkies all promoting their genetic strain of Machiavellian-ism, in the narcissistic De-evolution of mother natures creation… if left alone, She, would weed out the undesirable’s of intellectual quackery and all that belongs to the Pillars of money and the power thereof!
Just Say-in...! 😊


PeterS wrote:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/10-signs-youre-actually-following-trumpianity-instead-of-christianity/

In the Era of Trump’s America, I must admit that I hardly recognize the very people who raised me. I was brought up by the Religious Right, and went on to become a faithful foot soldier for the cause of conservative Christianity and right-wing politics until my mid 30’s. However, long gone is their commitment to the values they tried to instill in me, and so much else that once consistently encompassed their collective identity.

Sadly, my old tribe seems to collectively struggle to realize they’ve done exactly what they spent the entire Left Behind series warning me not to do: they have fallen in line behind a worldly leader who arose to power during a time of “wars and rumors of wars,” who did so by falsely pretending to be a Christian, but who would ultimately lead them to follow an entirely new religion.

To help my former right-wing family out, here’s the top 10 signs you’re now following TRUMPianity instead of CHRISTianity:

10. You spent 8 years criticizing every move of Obama, but the minute Trump was sworn in you started telling everyone that “Christians should respect the president” and that being “d******e” is a sin.
Remember the you of two years ago? That’s okay, because I do– and you certainly didn’t seem to believe that Christians should “respect the president” or that being politically d******e was any sort of sin.

Here I am recalling you taught me that, “sin is always sin” and doesn’t change just because culture changes. Huh!

9. You think, “but we’re a nation of laws” somehow trumps biblical teachings on how immigrants are to be treated.
You didn’t expect me to forget all of those years where you taught me that the Bible is the “final authority for all matters of living,” did you?

Good, because I didn’t– but it certainly sounds like you did. I’m reminded every time you dismiss what the Bible teaches about the treatment of immigrants with, “But, but… we’re a nation of laws!”

I thought you’d said, “We have a responsibility to follow God’s law, not man’s law!” just a few weeks ago. Silly me!

8. Your church is planning a “patriotic worship service” for the 4th of July.
Let me simplify this for you: there’s no such thing as “patriotic worship” unless you’re willing to simply admit you’re worshipping your own country.

You were the ones who taught me that if God isn’t the focal point of our worship, that it’s sinful idolatry. Surely you remember Jesus saying, “It is written: worship the Lord your God and serve him only”?

Apparently there’s now room for two. Strange!

7. You instinctively applaud when Trump threatens to “bomb the s**t” out of people, but quickly push back if someone quotes what Jesus taught about violence and enemy love.
Jesus commanded we love our enemies, and that we never repay evil with evil but instead repay evil with good. I mean, it’s right there in the red words. I still have it underlined from 1984.

But now when I quote that in response to your thinking that it’s all cute when Trump wants to “knock the crap” out of a protestor or nuke a country, you tell me that I’m twisting scripture.

Sorry, but I think siding with Trump over Jesus is… as Trump would say: Sad!

6. You think that having a filthy mouth and boasting about sexual immorality is a sign of being unsaved, but when it comes to Trump you all of a sudden have a “Who am I to judge?” attitude.
I mean, c’mon. I grew up under your guidance and I think we both know that neither one of us ever thought we’d see the day when you became an advocate of not judging. You told me that if I had sex before marriage or used the F-word that it would be evidence I was never saved to begin with.

Doesn’t it seem odd to you that it was Trump, and not Jesus who got you to (selectively) soften up on the whole judging others thing? Interesting!

5. You think it’s God-honoring to refuse to bow to a national statue, but that you should be fired from your job, kicked out of the country, or even charged with treason for refusing to stand for the f**g.
Let me get this straight: When everyone obeyed the king and bowed down to the national statue and Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego refused– under the pain of death– to pledge their allegiance to anyone except God, they were the good guys of the story…


But fast forward to present day America, and the good guys are actually the ones who want to force everyone to pay respect to the national symbol? Plot twist!
4. You want the nation to return to “biblical values”… except for all those socialist sounding biblical things like caring for the poor, welcoming the stranger, giving food to the hungry, etc.
So you really want the nation to return to “biblical values”? You do realize that when Israel lived under God’s law (which you love to quote when talking of same sex marriage) also included laws that mandated the rich be taxed, even down to the food they had, and that the wealth was to be redistributed to the poor and immigrants, yes?

Or is this the one situation where you’d rather not remember that you keep saying, “But God’s law never changes”? Confused!

3. Your church spends one month a year celebrating the story of refugee family who fled their violent homeland and secretly crossed the border to safety, only to return home years later where their son became another unarmed person of color k**led by the state’s violent security forces because they “felt threatened”…
Yet you spend 11 months of the year missing the obvious. Ironic!

2. You claimed Barack Obama’s e******n was the result of evil forces, but the minute Trump was sworn into office you started quoting verses about how “God picks a nation’s kings and queens.”
For real, how does this work? Did God only get involved and start deciding e******ns with the past e******n cycle, or did you just start quoting this verse after the black guy left?

There’s a lot in this world I don’t know, but I do happen to know the answer to *that* one. Easy!

1. You spent the 90’s saying “character counts” but now say, “We don’t v**e for a national pastor.”
Ahh, my absolute favorite sign you’re following Trumpianity instead of Christianity.

Version of you from today, I’d like you to meet the version of you from the Clinton administration. You were supposedly so morally outraged that you coined the term, “Character Counts” to explain why you felt Clinton was unfit for office.

The version of you from today? My, my… as I listen to you explain that “We don’t v**e for a national pastor…” I am keenly aware of how having the political power changes things. Totally!



So you’re a loyal Trump supporter and a loyal Christian?

I’m not so sure.

You might want to take a more self-critical look and make sure you’re following Christianity, and not Trumpianity. Really!
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/10-sig... (show quote)

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Sep 21, 2018 12:21:57   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
PeterS wrote:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/10-signs-youre-actually-following-trumpianity-instead-of-christianity/

In the Era of Trump’s America, I must admit that I hardly recognize the very people who raised me. I was brought up by the Religious Right, and went on to become a faithful foot soldier for the cause of conservative Christianity and right-wing politics until my mid 30’s. However, long gone is their commitment to the values they tried to instill in me, and so much else that once consistently encompassed their collective identity.

Sadly, my old tribe seems to collectively struggle to realize they’ve done exactly what they spent the entire Left Behind series warning me not to do: they have fallen in line behind a worldly leader who arose to power during a time of “wars and rumors of wars,” who did so by falsely pretending to be a Christian, but who would ultimately lead them to follow an entirely new religion.

To help my former right-wing family out, here’s the top 10 signs you’re now following TRUMPianity instead of CHRISTianity:

10. You spent 8 years criticizing every move of Obama, but the minute Trump was sworn in you started telling everyone that “Christians should respect the president” and that being “d******e” is a sin.
Remember the you of two years ago? That’s okay, because I do– and you certainly didn’t seem to believe that Christians should “respect the president” or that being politically d******e was any sort of sin.

Here I am recalling you taught me that, “sin is always sin” and doesn’t change just because culture changes. Huh!

9. You think, “but we’re a nation of laws” somehow trumps biblical teachings on how immigrants are to be treated.
You didn’t expect me to forget all of those years where you taught me that the Bible is the “final authority for all matters of living,” did you?

Good, because I didn’t– but it certainly sounds like you did. I’m reminded every time you dismiss what the Bible teaches about the treatment of immigrants with, “But, but… we’re a nation of laws!”

I thought you’d said, “We have a responsibility to follow God’s law, not man’s law!” just a few weeks ago. Silly me!

8. Your church is planning a “patriotic worship service” for the 4th of July.
Let me simplify this for you: there’s no such thing as “patriotic worship” unless you’re willing to simply admit you’re worshipping your own country.

You were the ones who taught me that if God isn’t the focal point of our worship, that it’s sinful idolatry. Surely you remember Jesus saying, “It is written: worship the Lord your God and serve him only”?

Apparently there’s now room for two. Strange!

7. You instinctively applaud when Trump threatens to “bomb the s**t” out of people, but quickly push back if someone quotes what Jesus taught about violence and enemy love.
Jesus commanded we love our enemies, and that we never repay evil with evil but instead repay evil with good. I mean, it’s right there in the red words. I still have it underlined from 1984.

But now when I quote that in response to your thinking that it’s all cute when Trump wants to “knock the crap” out of a protestor or nuke a country, you tell me that I’m twisting scripture.

Sorry, but I think siding with Trump over Jesus is… as Trump would say: Sad!

6. You think that having a filthy mouth and boasting about sexual immorality is a sign of being unsaved, but when it comes to Trump you all of a sudden have a “Who am I to judge?” attitude.
I mean, c’mon. I grew up under your guidance and I think we both know that neither one of us ever thought we’d see the day when you became an advocate of not judging. You told me that if I had sex before marriage or used the F-word that it would be evidence I was never saved to begin with.

Doesn’t it seem odd to you that it was Trump, and not Jesus who got you to (selectively) soften up on the whole judging others thing? Interesting!

5. You think it’s God-honoring to refuse to bow to a national statue, but that you should be fired from your job, kicked out of the country, or even charged with treason for refusing to stand for the f**g.
Let me get this straight: When everyone obeyed the king and bowed down to the national statue and Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego refused– under the pain of death– to pledge their allegiance to anyone except God, they were the good guys of the story…


But fast forward to present day America, and the good guys are actually the ones who want to force everyone to pay respect to the national symbol? Plot twist!
4. You want the nation to return to “biblical values”… except for all those socialist sounding biblical things like caring for the poor, welcoming the stranger, giving food to the hungry, etc.
So you really want the nation to return to “biblical values”? You do realize that when Israel lived under God’s law (which you love to quote when talking of same sex marriage) also included laws that mandated the rich be taxed, even down to the food they had, and that the wealth was to be redistributed to the poor and immigrants, yes?

Or is this the one situation where you’d rather not remember that you keep saying, “But God’s law never changes”? Confused!

3. Your church spends one month a year celebrating the story of refugee family who fled their violent homeland and secretly crossed the border to safety, only to return home years later where their son became another unarmed person of color k**led by the state’s violent security forces because they “felt threatened”…
Yet you spend 11 months of the year missing the obvious. Ironic!

2. You claimed Barack Obama’s e******n was the result of evil forces, but the minute Trump was sworn into office you started quoting verses about how “God picks a nation’s kings and queens.”
For real, how does this work? Did God only get involved and start deciding e******ns with the past e******n cycle, or did you just start quoting this verse after the black guy left?

There’s a lot in this world I don’t know, but I do happen to know the answer to *that* one. Easy!

1. You spent the 90’s saying “character counts” but now say, “We don’t v**e for a national pastor.”
Ahh, my absolute favorite sign you’re following Trumpianity instead of Christianity.

Version of you from today, I’d like you to meet the version of you from the Clinton administration. You were supposedly so morally outraged that you coined the term, “Character Counts” to explain why you felt Clinton was unfit for office.

The version of you from today? My, my… as I listen to you explain that “We don’t v**e for a national pastor…” I am keenly aware of how having the political power changes things. Totally!



So you’re a loyal Trump supporter and a loyal Christian?

I’m not so sure.

You might want to take a more self-critical look and make sure you’re following Christianity, and not Trumpianity. Really!
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/10-sig... (show quote)


Reading your convoluted tripe reminded me C.S. Lewis' book, "The Screwtape Letters."

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Sep 21, 2018 12:36:50   #
PeterS
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
You may not have pulled the trigger of baby k*****g but you handed the loaded gun of a******n for any reason of personal convenience to those who did. You stand just as guilty.

Bull s**t. Women have been getting a******ns for as long as they figured out just where babies came from. In the 50's and 60's if you had the means then your daughter could be checked into the hospital and be given a D&C and be home the next day after having a "procedure." If you didn't have the means though you wound up in a back alley somewhere where you may or may not come out of it alive. You people didn't give a crap about a******n until we started counting. How many women got a******ns before RvW? No one knows. We can try to estimate but we didn't want to know so it was far easier to turn a blind eye.

But with RvW you people started counting and suddenly you started screaming MURDER where before you simply yawned and farted. I believe everyone has a right to control their own bodies. If you don't like what they do under that control--well that's between you and them--not me. I've never had an a******n nor have I ever impregnated a woman where she might have HAD to get an a******n because of my irresponsibility. I've been responsible with my penis. Whether you and your compatriots haven't--is something that is completely out of my control and completely in yours!

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Sep 21, 2018 12:40:30   #
PeterS
 
padremike wrote:
Reading your convoluted tripe reminded me C.S. Lewis' book, "The Screwtape Letters."

I didn't write it--I simply used it as a topic starter.

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Sep 21, 2018 13:14:41   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
PeterS wrote:
Bull s**t. Women have been getting a******ns for as long as they figured out just where babies came from. In the 50's and 60's if you had the means then your daughter could be checked into the hospital and be given a D&C and be home the next day after having a "procedure." If you didn't have the means though you wound up in a back alley somewhere where you may or may not come out of it alive. You people didn't give a crap about a******n until we started counting. How many women got a******ns before RvW? No one knows. We can try to estimate but we didn't want to know so it was far easier to turn a blind eye.

But with RvW you people started counting and suddenly you started screaming MURDER where before you simply yawned and farted. I believe everyone has a right to control their own bodies. If you don't like what they do under that control--well that's between you and them--not me. I've never had an a******n nor have I ever impregnated a woman where she might have HAD to get an a******n because of my irresponsibility. I've been responsible with my penis. Whether you and your compatriots haven't--is something that is completely out of my control and completely in yours!
Bull s**t. Women have been getting a******ns for a... (show quote)



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Sep 21, 2018 13:29:59   #
woodguru
 
PeterS wrote:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/10-signs-youre-actually-following-trumpianity-instead-of-christianity/

4. You want the nation to return to “biblical values”… except for all those socialist sounding biblical things like caring for the poor, welcoming the stranger, giving food to the hungry, etc.
So you really want the nation to return to “biblical values”? You do realize that when Israel lived under God’s law (which you love to quote when talking of same sex marriage) also included laws that mandated the rich be taxed, even down to the food they had, and that the wealth was to be redistributed to the poor and immigrants, yes?

Or is this the one situation where you’d rather not remember that you keep saying, “But God’s law never changes”? Confused!

So you’re a loyal Trump supporter and a loyal Christian?

I’m not so sure.

You might want to take a more self-critical look and make sure you’re following Christianity, and not Trumpianity. Really!
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/10-sig... (show quote)


This one stands out to me as being perhaps the key thing about being a true Christian, to me it's completely wrapped up in how you treat others, a mindset that lives with kindness in your heart. Hatred filled Trump supporters are nothing of the sort.

You can't be a blind follower of Trump and be a christian or a patriot, Trump supporters are f**e or alt christians and patriots, they believe they are which has nothing to do with facts

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Sep 21, 2018 13:33:42   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
PeterS wrote:
Bull s**t. Women have been getting a******ns for as long as they figured out just where babies came from. In the 50's and 60's if you had the means then your daughter could be checked into the hospital and be given a D&C and be home the next day after having a "procedure." If you didn't have the means though you wound up in a back alley somewhere where you may or may not come out of it alive. You people didn't give a crap about a******n until we started counting. How many women got a******ns before RvW? No one knows. We can try to estimate but we didn't want to know so it was far easier to turn a blind eye.

But with RvW you people started counting and suddenly you started screaming MURDER where before you simply yawned and farted. I believe everyone has a right to control their own bodies. If you don't like what they do under that control--well that's between you and them--not me. I've never had an a******n nor have I ever impregnated a woman where she might have HAD to get an a******n because of my irresponsibility. I've been responsible with my penis. Whether you and your compatriots haven't--is something that is completely out of my control and completely in yours!
Bull s**t. Women have been getting a******ns for a... (show quote)


Such tripe! You are evidently unaware that the ancient church wrote much about the evil of a******n. Read the Didache, a short 1st Century document easily found on line. There is no secret unaware mystery that some women murdered their unborn children. A******ns were performed in the dark because they could never stand the clean light of day .......until militant Progressives who can justify any evil behavior by calling them "my rights!" Balderdash!

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Sep 21, 2018 13:34:16   #
woodguru
 
PeterS wrote:
Bull s**t. Women have been getting a******ns for as long as they figured out just where babies came from. In the 50's and 60's if you had the means then your daughter could be checked into the hospital and be given a D&C and be home the next day after having a "procedure." If you didn't have the means though you wound up in a back alley somewhere where you may or may not come out of it alive. You people didn't give a crap about a******n until we started counting. How many women got a******ns before RvW? No one knows. We can try to estimate but we didn't want to know so it was far easier to turn a blind eye.

But with RvW you people started counting and suddenly you started screaming MURDER where before you simply yawned and farted. I believe everyone has a right to control their own bodies. If you don't like what they do under that control--well that's between you and them--not me. I've never had an a******n nor have I ever impregnated a woman where she might have HAD to get an a******n because of my irresponsibility. I've been responsible with my penis. Whether you and your compatriots haven't--is something that is completely out of my control and completely in yours!
Bull s**t. Women have been getting a******ns for a... (show quote)


I would love to see statistics on how many a******ns were performed on behalf of people on the right, the step father who gets his daughter pregnant, incest, rape, office affairs, etc. The right is against it until they know someone who's best interest is served by getting rid of an embarrassing little secret.

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Sep 21, 2018 13:39:27   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
padremike wrote:
Such tripe! You are evidently unaware that the ancient church wrote much about the evil of a******n. Read the Didache, a short 1st Century document easily found on line. There is no secret unaware mystery that some women murdered their unborn children. A******ns were performed in the dark because they could never stand the clean light of day .......until militant Progressives who can justify any evil behavior by calling them "my rights!" Balderdash!


Who gives a rat's ass about your archaic ancient church?

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Sep 21, 2018 13:40:02   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/10-signs-youre-actually-following-trumpianity-instead-of-christianity/

In the Era of Trump’s America, I must admit that I hardly recognize the very people who raised me. I was brought up by the Religious Right, and went on to become a faithful foot soldier for the cause of conservative Christianity and right-wing politics until my mid 30’s. However, long gone is their commitment to the values they tried to instill in me, and so much else that once consistently encompassed their collective identity.

Sadly, my old tribe seems to collectively struggle to realize they’ve done exactly what they spent the entire Left Behind series warning me not to do: they have fallen in line behind a worldly leader who arose to power during a time of “wars and rumors of wars,” who did so by falsely pretending to be a Christian, but who would ultimately lead them to follow an entirely new religion.

To help my former right-wing family out, here’s the top 10 signs you’re now following TRUMPianity instead of CHRISTianity:

10. You spent 8 years criticizing every move of Obama, but the minute Trump was sworn in you started telling everyone that “Christians should respect the president” and that being “d******e” is a sin.
Remember the you of two years ago? That’s okay, because I do– and you certainly didn’t seem to believe that Christians should “respect the president” or that being politically d******e was any sort of sin.

Here I am recalling you taught me that, “sin is always sin” and doesn’t change just because culture changes. Huh!

9. You think, “but we’re a nation of laws” somehow trumps biblical teachings on how immigrants are to be treated.
You didn’t expect me to forget all of those years where you taught me that the Bible is the “final authority for all matters of living,” did you?

Good, because I didn’t– but it certainly sounds like you did. I’m reminded every time you dismiss what the Bible teaches about the treatment of immigrants with, “But, but… we’re a nation of laws!”

I thought you’d said, “We have a responsibility to follow God’s law, not man’s law!” just a few weeks ago. Silly me!

8. Your church is planning a “patriotic worship service” for the 4th of July.
Let me simplify this for you: there’s no such thing as “patriotic worship” unless you’re willing to simply admit you’re worshipping your own country.

You were the ones who taught me that if God isn’t the focal point of our worship, that it’s sinful idolatry. Surely you remember Jesus saying, “It is written: worship the Lord your God and serve him only”?

Apparently there’s now room for two. Strange!

7. You instinctively applaud when Trump threatens to “bomb the s**t” out of people, but quickly push back if someone quotes what Jesus taught about violence and enemy love.
Jesus commanded we love our enemies, and that we never repay evil with evil but instead repay evil with good. I mean, it’s right there in the red words. I still have it underlined from 1984.

But now when I quote that in response to your thinking that it’s all cute when Trump wants to “knock the crap” out of a protestor or nuke a country, you tell me that I’m twisting scripture.

Sorry, but I think siding with Trump over Jesus is… as Trump would say: Sad!

6. You think that having a filthy mouth and boasting about sexual immorality is a sign of being unsaved, but when it comes to Trump you all of a sudden have a “Who am I to judge?” attitude.
I mean, c’mon. I grew up under your guidance and I think we both know that neither one of us ever thought we’d see the day when you became an advocate of not judging. You told me that if I had sex before marriage or used the F-word that it would be evidence I was never saved to begin with.

Doesn’t it seem odd to you that it was Trump, and not Jesus who got you to (selectively) soften up on the whole judging others thing? Interesting!

5. You think it’s God-honoring to refuse to bow to a national statue, but that you should be fired from your job, kicked out of the country, or even charged with treason for refusing to stand for the f**g.
Let me get this straight: When everyone obeyed the king and bowed down to the national statue and Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego refused– under the pain of death– to pledge their allegiance to anyone except God, they were the good guys of the story…


But fast forward to present day America, and the good guys are actually the ones who want to force everyone to pay respect to the national symbol? Plot twist!
4. You want the nation to return to “biblical values”… except for all those socialist sounding biblical things like caring for the poor, welcoming the stranger, giving food to the hungry, etc.
So you really want the nation to return to “biblical values”? You do realize that when Israel lived under God’s law (which you love to quote when talking of same sex marriage) also included laws that mandated the rich be taxed, even down to the food they had, and that the wealth was to be redistributed to the poor and immigrants, yes?

Or is this the one situation where you’d rather not remember that you keep saying, “But God’s law never changes”? Confused!

3. Your church spends one month a year celebrating the story of refugee family who fled their violent homeland and secretly crossed the border to safety, only to return home years later where their son became another unarmed person of color k**led by the state’s violent security forces because they “felt threatened”…
Yet you spend 11 months of the year missing the obvious. Ironic!

2. You claimed Barack Obama’s e******n was the result of evil forces, but the minute Trump was sworn into office you started quoting verses about how “God picks a nation’s kings and queens.”
For real, how does this work? Did God only get involved and start deciding e******ns with the past e******n cycle, or did you just start quoting this verse after the black guy left?

There’s a lot in this world I don’t know, but I do happen to know the answer to *that* one. Easy!

1. You spent the 90’s saying “character counts” but now say, “We don’t v**e for a national pastor.”
Ahh, my absolute favorite sign you’re following Trumpianity instead of Christianity.

Version of you from today, I’d like you to meet the version of you from the Clinton administration. You were supposedly so morally outraged that you coined the term, “Character Counts” to explain why you felt Clinton was unfit for office.

The version of you from today? My, my… as I listen to you explain that “We don’t v**e for a national pastor…” I am keenly aware of how having the political power changes things. Totally!

…

So you’re a loyal Trump supporter and a loyal Christian?

I’m not so sure.

You might want to take a more self-critical look and make sure you’re following Christianity, and not Trumpianity. Really!
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/10-sig... (show quote)



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Sep 21, 2018 13:42:00   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
woodguru wrote:
This one stands out to me as being perhaps the key thing about being a true Christian, to me it's completely wrapped up in how you treat others, a mindset that lives with kindness in your heart. Hatred filled Trump supporters are nothing of the sort.

You can't be a blind follower of Trump and be a christian or a patriot, Trump supporters are f**e or alt christians and patriots, they believe they are which has nothing to do with facts


You cannot be a Christian and be a Democrat because Democrats advocate a******n, homosexuality, and the rest of their hedonistic agenda. It matters not if you are a Democrat and are against a******n, and the rest of their sinful activities, because by endorsing the Democrats you give tacit approval to their entire platform and agenda.

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Sep 21, 2018 14:13:44   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
padremike wrote:
You cannot be a Christian and be a Democrat because Democrats advocate a******n, homosexuality, and the rest of their hedonistic agenda. It matters not if you are a Democrat and are against a******n, and the rest of their sinful activities, because by endorsing the Democrats you give tacit approval to their entire platform and agenda.



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Sep 21, 2018 15:18:11   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
youngwilliam wrote:
Who said I v**ed for Trump petey bird?
You always assume so much.


Assumptions and jumping to conclusions is bad exercise.
General rule of thumb.

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Sep 21, 2018 15:41:00   #
woodguru
 
padremike wrote:
You cannot be a Christian and be a Democrat because Democrats advocate a******n, homosexuality, and the rest of their hedonistic agenda. It matters not if you are a Democrat and are against a******n, and the rest of their sinful activities, because by endorsing the Democrats you give tacit approval to their entire platform and agenda.


Yet democrats that are christians happen to feel that the constitution and laws supercede the bible, they have tolerance for gays and have no problem with them in their churches...

And I know a boatload of republicans that feel the same way, they are personally against a******n but feel that it is not their place to tell the government to tell people what to do.

It's ironically funny that the religious people who are all about less government support the government telling people what they can and can't do based on religious beliefs.

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