bdamage Loc: My Bunker

You might want to pace yourself moldy, this may take a while.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Oh so he drank and that naturally means he’s a raist or predator and the devils triangle means the same??? Just as thhe article is a strettttccchhh so are those comments..pfttt

You should read my year book~ ha, then again, no you shouldn’t... What a flimsy excuse you have come up with here...

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Could if what she claims took place... Another evasive comment that can not be proven... Just as she wants it, or embellished upon by Feinstein and liars in consortt!!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Alot of t***h in this Post Mike...

I note you use the phrase “lady” in your post.. Right again, there is a marked difference from being a women to a “lady.” My mother always said girls grow into women but few are a lady..

Militant feminism as you bring up is really, at least in my opinion, the insecurity of some women and need to compete with men just to prove they are valuable. Their insecurity comes from not recognizing that they are valuable and don’t need to compete with a man..I also believe those militant feminist have really placed a negative leeriness with men who do not trust them and not only them but all women which is what is infuriating... Not all women are like them and they appreciate the finer qualities a gentleman has to offer. Those women also recognize that they are perfectly able of proving themselves in the workforce and seeing each as an equal, not as someone being suppressed because of a man.

Like those embarrassing, ignorant, loudmouth, swearing worse than any man, displayed during those woman’s march h*****g there vagina around their neck; boy that went over well ~~talk about d********g and embarrassing... I still cringe over how they reduced a woman’s value to her vagina. I believe in equal rights, equal pay, equal respect and being treated as a lady. Like my mother said girls grow into women but not many make it to being a lady. I’m embarassed by the things going on right now... this metoo movement, and that is exactly what it is, in fact looks to take a man out of his position that they believe they belong in and they will do it anyway they can. Nothing more than jumping on the bandwagon rather than proving themselves the person they truly are or could be. They want to be independent while all the while screaming victimization. I’m glad most of the metoo moment comes from women Describing things that perhaps or possibly took place in 20 or 30 years ago...

Ford is s disaster and needs help but I doubt its because of her lies here...

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

God one.
Should we have mercy on them?
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lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

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Ms. Debeda, you are wonderful to read and I love your enthusiasm and straight talk in your posts!!!! You are goooooodddd!!!
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lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Exactly what I was just talking about! Excellent Facts too...👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍👍

LOL, I had two older brothers watching me like a hawk, didn’t let me get away with anything, the dang brats knew the guys better than I did even some of the girls better than I did, so I listened... I had to LOL...

Something serious though Deb, women do not have to compete with men they just need to except the fact that men are men and women are women. Venus and Mars and all the things in between. They can establish themselves by the performance of their jobs and as long as they are doing the equivalent then that should be offered the equivalent. That I support very much....I hear some women still complaining about the inequity of salary ranges but that’s all they do is complain..They don’t take it to task and get their company to recognize what is taking place and fix it...Companies will take advantage as long as they can until certainly called out... Too many laws on the book they were specifically violate because no one challenges them and they know it. So if they really want e******y and equal pay then go the task and stop blaming men for the fact that they get paid more money... They sure don’t mind when they bring it home to cover the household expenses etc...



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lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

You are anything but !!! Always a gracious lady that kneows whats up... Your granddaughter luccky to have you..

The milleninals of this day don’t want to do anything but what they want and with little effort.. I pity the “men that wind up with their attitudes ?You hungry, fix yourself something, I’m not your s***e~~ lolo I’d laugh but its the t***h.. Marriage isn’t needed, neither know commitment and dedication and only love themself..I always found great pleasure in my husband and I cooking dinner together. Walking on the beach together. I.. Always holding my hand, opening a door for me or allowing me to enter the building first etc. etc. all that is going away text and women are going to regret it later on....i do not call myself a feminist, if anything I’m simply feminin and live exactly the way I am.. I value, appreciate and respect my fellow partner and am not the least intimidated by he or any other male.. We are Opposite sexes for a reason and I sure am glad we are!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

I guess the proof is in the pudding of facts, not simply your opinion of things~~~

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

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You are being very nice in describing those Obstinate, self righteous, grandiose boisters of nothing..... I lke it...👏🏻

moldyoldy

I Know Why Evangelical Women Support Brett Kavanaugh. I Was Raised To Do The Same.

Carly Gelsinger


It seems a lot of people can’t fathom why a woman, regardless of political beliefs, would support Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh in light of Dr. Christine Blasey Ford’s testimony about him sexually assaulting her.
I can, and here’s why.

There exists a generation of women who were never taught consent ― and I’m not talking about Boomers. I’m talking about the hundreds of thousands of us who were raised in church and came of age at the turn of the millennium.
In our world, we were taught that our bodies didn’t belong to ourselves. God owned them, they said, but really, that meant that men owned them. Our fathers. Our pastors. Our husbands. Our politicians. Never ourselves.

This is, of course, the foundation of the 1990s evangelical movement known as “purity culture.” A pendulum swing from the free love culture of the 1970s and the AIDS scare of the 1980s, the 1990s were all about abstinence. Evangelicals took it upon themselves to stop a generation from promiscuity. They forged a mascot, a slogan (“True Love Waits”), held “purity balls,” manufactured an endless supply of merchandise — and voila! Purity culture, a subculture within an already-bizarre evangelical subculture, was born.
Purity culture taught young girls to bear responsibility for men’s lust. When we got dressed in the morning, we were supposed to ask ourselves what our grandfathers would think of our outfits. We wore T-shirts that said, “Modest is Hottest.

Our formative years were spent in shame over our bodies, in suspicion of our sexuality, and in earnest ownership over the behavior of men.
When I was 13, I went to my female youth pastor, shaken by the first aggressive catcall directed my way. She said, “Welcome to the wonderful world of womanhood,” with an edge of tired sarcasm to her voice. That was it. I shrugged it off and tried to shrug off the hundreds of catcalls in my future.
When I was 14, I was lying on my belly reading the Bible on the church floor before youth group. A youth leader told me to sit up. If a girl is horizontal around boys, it forces them to picture you naked, she said. It causes them to stumble.
We were taught that women who have sex before marriage are like a trampled rose. Damaged goods. Undesirable. Unworthy of love. Sometimes the metaphor used in sermon illustrations was a chewed piece of gum. The pastor would chew a piece of gum and then pass it around the room, asking if anyone else wanted to chew it after him.
When I was 15, I was violently assaulted on a mission trip. In response, my team leader literally asked me, “What were you wearing?”
This famous phrase is not just an internet meme. People actually say it to women, and even more destructively, to young girls. They said it to me. I shut up about that assault for a good decade after that.
When I was 16, I sat in a dark movie theater with my crush, alarmed by my desire to hold his hand. It was my first official date, and I was too consumed with fear to enjoy it. You see, we were taught that women who have sex before marriage are like a trampled rose. Damaged goods. Undesirable. Unworthy of love.
Sometimes the metaphor used in sermon illustrations was a chewed piece of gum. The pastor would chew a piece of gum and then pass it around the room, asking if anyone else wanted to chew it after him. Sometimes it was a piece of tape that had lost its stickiness. Sometimes it was a torn-up piece of construction paper. The sermon illustrations differed, but the message was always the same. With these images seared into my mind, I cut off contact with my crush after that night.
When I was 17, I attended a purity retreat where I signed a pledge to “save myself” for my future husband. I didn’t even think about what I wanted, because that didn’t matter. My body wasn’t my own.
When I was 18, in college, a guy at my Christian school lectured my friend and me for stretching in the student union. He said it caused him to picture us in the positions we could maintain in bed and that we should work harder to protect his thoughts.
We acquiesced. After all, we wanted to be women of God, worthy of our future husbands.

When I was 19, another girlfriend of mine went to visit a guy who was housesitting off campus. She kissed him on the sofa after a movie, and then gathered her keys to leave. He forced himself on her. She came back to the dorms in tears. She didn’t report it because we knew that girls who had sex were expelled from school.
There was so much shame regarding sex in evangelical circles that none of it — consensual or otherwise — was talked about. There was no difference. It was all sin.
When I was 20, my Christian boyfriend dumped me. “I want a pure woman,” he told me after one of our kissing sessions. We hadn’t even had sex. “Maybe if your cleavage wasn’t always out I could have controlled myself,” he suggested. I promised him we could stop making out. That wasn’t enough. We already had. I was damaged goods.
When I was 21, I was engaged to another Christian man. We stuck to the pledges we had made as teenagers. We sought Christian counsel to prepare ourselves for marriage. Always be available to your husband, they said. If you don’t fulfill his needs, he will lust after other women. Until then, continue to be sexless. Try not to even think about it. An impure mind is the start of all sins.
By then, I was damn well ready to have sex, yet I did not until after the cake was cut. I had made a promise to other people. My body was not my own.
I’ve had to unlearn so many ideas about sex and the female body. I had to relearn basic concepts of bodily autonomy, sexual consent, and sex/body positivity. Purity culture uses fear to try to stop women from being autonomous over their bodies. At its core, it is about control.

When I was 22, I began to untangle myself from the mess of purity culture. I’ve had to unlearn so many ideas about sex and the female body. I had to relearn basic concepts of bodily autonomy, sexual consent, and sex/body positivity. Purity culture uses fear to try to stop women from being autonomous over their bodies. At its core, it is about control.
So this is why it is not surprising to me that so many women are rushing to protect Kavanaugh and deriding Ford. The women who grew up being guardians of male sexuality are now approaching middle age, and many of us are still assuming that role and expecting other women to as well.
The lingering effects of purity culture run deep. We were taught to distrust women — beginning with ourselves.
Carly Gelsinger lives in California with her husband and two daughters. She holds a master’s in journalism and runs a small business helping people write their stories. Her first book, Once You Go In: A Memoir of Radical Faith, will be released in October 2018 and is the story of her experience being lured into and escaping a fundamentalist church. Learn more about Carly at by visiting her official website.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brett-kavanaugh-evangelical-women_us_5bb3a28de4b0ba8bb211985b

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

There is a lot of t***h and I suspect embellishment of the womens claims.. Meaning for her growing up it was as she recited it.. Not all were raised like she was.. While I don’t know her age she implies being of middle age”..

I can tell you that was not my teaching from my parents or even my Grandmother, Cheif of Nursing... She explained the birds and bees in a beautiful way of how the body is your domaine and not to shared etc but once in love it is the most sacred expression of that love etccc.....

Oops, just a second~~ just got confirmation Senate has confrmed Kavanaugh...

Anyway, I had no fear or Trepidation over what the future held for me nor was I thought that my body was owned by anyone other than myself. To the contrary I was taught that no meant no and don’t ever allow myself to be miss led by the intentions of a boyfriend. My dad was pretty cool about it he said lay with one and you’ll never be the one that is respected enough to be taken home to meet the family..

The purity culture is something that must’ve been before my time. In growing up, maybe that’s why I don’t put much credence to it.. As well as believing I am my own person and I make choices for myself that’s how I was raised.

moldyoldy

I was really interested in your birds and bees story.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Lol, cute.. Ok, Yes, our bodes are different, one of the special gifts is the difference being what in time brings, life, love, children and in all that what you develope into as you come to understand boys are fine tuned to wanting to bed you so they can share it with everyone..its natural, its healthy and it will come up frequently...

They defined every part of my body and its function, they defined a boys including his mind of conquer... As they put it, all laughing at times.. You get the picture...
My mother said” your body is sacred until you have found the one you know is your love of your life and when that happens you will want to give totally and completely to him..

I was never told that I owed any boy or man anything nor that they owned me.. Just the opposite really.. I guess I need to Thank the womens movement for starting the true changes that once dictated how we were to act.. I don’t mean the woman’s march that took place after Trump was nominated president but rather the suffragists under Anthony that circulated petitions and lobbied Congress to pass a constitutional amendment to enfranchise women...

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Well stated LJ. Thanks for taking the time.
IMO;
My dad always told us as teenagers. When you sleep with a woman, you are married.
I was lucky. My mom and dad were soul mates.

IMO; Sex without love may feel good, but it is not very special.
Can't say
Sex without Love is just friction.