woodguru

Christian values are supposed to be the gold standard of integrity, honor, and faith. The right, and I refer to the hard right not the progressive center, are defined by the scum they elect to office. And here's where the cries of democrats are worse, we tolerate liars because they are worse. There are always the examples, often not anywhere near equivalent in value, but they are there.

I've said this before, if the right would even begin to hold the scum they are electing to the christian standard, dems would be forced to hold the same standards. It starts with holding your elected officials to a meaningful standard and then the other party can be expected to follow that lead.

There is a segment of the hard right that has no semblance to christian values. Called on it we hear weak protests of nobody is perfect, we are only human. Too many supposed christians are actually pretty despicable human beings. Christians do not commit h**e crimes like vandalism and injuries to Mosques, or a******n clinics. They do not participate in alt right r****t h**e groups and their protests. Christians do not watch from the sidelines as people openly support these values, and they sure as hell don't agree with conduct like this. It is up to christians to make it clear that they are all about christian values.

Our country is sick, rotting from the inside of it's christian values when a despicable piece of trash like Roy Moore is defended by the supposedly moral religious faction who should have run him out on a rail. So you "can't prove" allegations. There was plenty of evidence he liked underage girls even as he worked as a prosecutor. He got kicked out of a mall because they thought it inappropriate for him to be picking up on young girls. He got kicked off of the court as a judge twice. The question being how many chances does the religious right give to a piece of trash like this?

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

Why don't YOU pull the log from your own eye and live up to those lofty "Christian values?" Do you want to throw a stone you hypocrite? NOBODY can live up to them. I stand corrected...ONLY one.

PeterS

The logic is--if what you are fighting against is a greater evil than what you are supporting then you are justified in being morally relative. The question begged though is what happens to your moral center? Our CC friends don't understand that in supporting evil they become the evil they support. If a Democrat were even remotely suspected of collusion with the Russians there would have been no end to the s**t that would have hit the fan but since Trump is 1) a lesser evil and 2) can give you what you want then you are perfectly justified in supporting the evil that he is and the contact he might have made. The fact that you no longer have a moral center based on Christian values since you are gaining everything you desired then it has to be moral--even though you no longer have the moral center to know what is and isn't moral.

Did I leave anything out?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

When you project, you don't hold anything back, do you? What you left out of your ridiculous rant is the t***h. That in itself is immoral. And, you have a truly warped idea of what is and is not evil.

Good Lord, man, who supports the mass slaughter of unborn children? Who supports, defends, and celebrates d*****t sexual behavior and perversion? Who defends i*****l i*********n and felons? Who supports sanctuary cities and safe zones? Who wants to abolish free speech and the right to bear arms? Who supports the destruction of the Constitution of the United States? Who supports anarchy and socialism?

Who will not acknowledge the t***h about who actually colluded with "foreign actors" to overturn a constitutionally elected president?

What political party is behind all of this? What ideology is the author of evil? Liberal progressivism is the bastard child of C*******m, the godless ideology responsible for more pain, suffering and death than any other on earth.

Hypocrite!

vernon

I don't believe you or peter are qualified to judge anyone's morals.

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

Tell me Pete, what is "gaining everything you desired?"

PeterS

You tell me, you're the ones who gained it...

PeterS

Hey, I didn't v**e for Bill Clinton twice because I thought he was a sorry sack of s**t and shouldn't be president. I will stack my morals against any Christian Conservative on this board or in this country for that matter.

PeterS

You're the one who said you v**ed for Trump because he was a lesser evil than Hillary--whom I take it you saw as Satan incarnate. I thought Hillary was the better candidate all along so there was no compromise for me. Where did I ever say I supported the slaughter of unborn children? I support a person right to control their bodies. If you don't like what they do with their bodies than take it up with them don't come whining to me. The only sexual behavior I've ever celebrated was mine. What others do with theirs, is their business, not mine--though I guess it is your's otherwise you wouldn't mention it would you! When have I ever defended i*****l i*********n or felons and while we are at it I've never spoken favorable about sanctuary cities but I do believe in DACA and believe that would be a very fair law for people who didn't come to this country by their own choice and for whom this country already has much invested so would be a shame to lose.

And the thing about it Blade, name a single goddamn thing conservativism ever did for this country? You Conservatives stood on the side of King George during the Revolution. You Southern Conservative's formed the Democratic party and did everything you could do to suppress b****s and minorities from the Civil War on to this very day. There is not a single solitary goddamn thing that you people have ever done that was a positive action for this country. Nothing. The first thing Trump did as president was to roll back regulations preventing coal companies from dumping wastes into our waterways and you maggots stood there and cheered as he signed. You can b***h and whine as much as you want about "Progressive Liberalism" but until you people do a single solitary damn thing that is a plus for this country then you don't have a damn thing to talk about...