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Sep 22, 2018 16:05:00   #
Morgan
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"If you wish to make an argument then state your premise. Don't pretend you are responding to my post while you slay straw men. As it stands you may have read my post but you certainly didn't comprehend what you read." - pafret

That is a usual problem with responding to Morgan.
She doesn't understand what you wrote, then misrepresents your position, and then time has to be wasted correcting her.
On Purpose?
Sometimes I wonder.


Of course you wonder, your nonsensical post reflects that, you see, you can't have it both ways, you either understand the post and can misrepresent, or you don't understand and then intentionally misrepresnting is impossible because it is misinterpreted, have I now gone over your head?

ps try and not to be such a little girl, and that is not a metaphor.

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Sep 22, 2018 16:13:16   #
Morgan
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
That is her modus operandi. She purposely tries to goad posters with whom she disagrees into calling her stupid. Then, when they do, she reports them to the administrator to get them banned.


I would never goad anyone into calling me stupid, that is just...stupid, first lie, The only person I reported was you because you had reported me while I was in the middle of a post with you so you could delete my post, yeah the first and only tit for tat, I have NEVER reported anyone to get them banned... ever... including you, why would I? Second lie.

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Sep 22, 2018 16:40:05   #
Jean Deaux
 
Morgan wrote:
What good has he done that stands on its own merit and not Obama's, not the economy, all he has done is to keep it going from Obama's stimulation. Deregulation has perpetuated that, but in the long run, it will hurt us and the environment.

No, I don't know any other presidents who were a complete narcissist. Make no mistake about him getting divine advice... no comment

What I can possibly credit to evil is when people manipulate and lie for their own self-interest, especially working to represent others.
What good has he done that stands on its own merit... (show quote)



The ONLY things that obama gave us were the largest national debt in world history, constant attempts at deviating from our Constitution as in his, "I have a phone and a pen" or his jamming mandatory premiums for his obamacare down peoples throats and then steadily increasing the deductibles, taking our military to treasonous levels by reducing our military to pre-1940 levels and our navy to the same number of ships we had in 1910. His ineptness in education dropped us from #3 or #4 worldwide to halfway down the list of 3rd world countries, we were overrun with i******s and our welfare costs soared, the VA became a subject of ridicule and he turned the IRS loose on conservatives as in the Tea Party scandal. Exactly whose interests did he lie to in his attempts to manipulate the e*****rate? Surely you don't think he was acting in the interests of the American people?

Obama stimulated nothing but racial hatred and discontent. He ignored Holder's gun running escapades into old Mexico. Unemployment was pathetic in the levels it reached under his administration, particularly in black and Hispanic circles, and he was oblivious to hillaries multiple trespasses including uranium sales, the B******i disaster, her "foundation" efforts including selling her anticipated national influence to foreign governments and giants in our defense industry, her classified email debacle and purloining Haitian relief funds. He denied President Trump's ability to return industry to our shores, based no doubt on his, obama's, extensive experience as a "community organizer" who was unable or unwilling to add any business expertise to his cabinet. He was the classic example of an i***t being led by know nothings with the result that he had the most dismal administration in our history. He was recognized for his ability to bow and scrape before foreign rulers and potentates, apparently trying to appear humble. All he achieved was looking like a jackass!

Thank God we have President Trump in office; he is leading us back from the black hole of a national disaster to our return as a nation of p***e, accomplishment and success. It was absent during the past reign of democrat efforts to lead us away from our lawful roots as a Republic. I'll take a seasoned businessman over a grasping politician anytime as our nations chief executive.

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Sep 22, 2018 22:17:29   #
Morgan
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
The ONLY things that obama gave us were the largest national debt in world history, constant attempts at deviating from our Constitution as in his, "I have a phone and a pen" or his jamming mandatory premiums for his obamacare down peoples throats and then steadily increasing the deductibles, taking our military to treasonous levels by reducing our military to pre-1940 levels and our navy to the same number of ships we had in 1910. His ineptness in education dropped us from #3 or #4 worldwide to halfway down the list of 3rd world countries, we were overrun with i******s and our welfare costs soared, the VA became a subject of ridicule and he turned the IRS loose on conservatives as in the Tea Party scandal. Exactly whose interests did he lie to in his attempts to manipulate the e*****rate? Surely you don't think he was acting in the interests of the American people?

Obama stimulated nothing but racial hatred and discontent. He ignored Holder's gun running escapades into old Mexico. Unemployment was pathetic in the levels it reached under his administration, particularly in black and Hispanic circles, and he was oblivious to hillaries multiple trespasses including uranium sales, the B******i disaster, her "foundation" efforts including selling her anticipated national influence to foreign governments and giants in our defense industry, her classified email debacle and purloining Haitian relief funds. He denied President Trump's ability to return industry to our shores, based no doubt on his, obama's, extensive experience as a "community organizer" who was unable or unwilling to add any business expertise to his cabinet. He was the classic example of an i***t being led by know nothings with the result that he had the most dismal administration in our history. He was recognized for his ability to bow and scrape before foreign rulers and potentates, apparently trying to appear humble. All he achieved was looking like a jackass!

Thank God we have President Trump in office; he is leading us back from the black hole of a national disaster to our return as a nation of p***e, accomplishment and success. It was absent during the past reign of democrat efforts to lead us away from our lawful roots as a Republic. I'll take a seasoned businessman over a grasping politician anytime as our nations chief executive.
The ONLY things that obama gave us were the larges... (show quote)


You disparaging Obama is a tiresome and typical response from the right, no excuses are left to have the most unp**********l person to sit in that chair ever, and you support a person who lacks such character only reinforces who his base is. The so-call black hole you speak of was CREATED by the c***ting New Republican Party, which is why, I and many others have left it. The Republican party no longer have lawful roots, this is shown by their c***ting lying ways and not the willingness or want to fix the sabotaging efforts from the Russians in our v****g process, simply due to the fact it works in their favor, as they are selling our country down the river.

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Sep 23, 2018 05:38:34   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
The ONLY things that obama gave us were the largest national debt in world history, constant attempts at deviating from our Constitution as in his, "I have a phone and a pen" or his jamming mandatory premiums for his obamacare down peoples throats and then steadily increasing the deductibles, taking our military to treasonous levels by reducing our military to pre-1940 levels and our navy to the same number of ships we had in 1910. His ineptness in education dropped us from #3 or #4 worldwide to halfway down the list of 3rd world countries, we were overrun with i******s and our welfare costs soared, the VA became a subject of ridicule and he turned the IRS loose on conservatives as in the Tea Party scandal. Exactly whose interests did he lie to in his attempts to manipulate the e*****rate? Surely you don't think he was acting in the interests of the American people?

Obama stimulated nothing but racial hatred and discontent. He ignored Holder's gun running escapades into old Mexico. Unemployment was pathetic in the levels it reached under his administration, particularly in black and Hispanic circles, and he was oblivious to hillaries multiple trespasses including uranium sales, the B******i disaster, her "foundation" efforts including selling her anticipated national influence to foreign governments and giants in our defense industry, her classified email debacle and purloining Haitian relief funds. He denied President Trump's ability to return industry to our shores, based no doubt on his, obama's, extensive experience as a "community organizer" who was unable or unwilling to add any business expertise to his cabinet. He was the classic example of an i***t being led by know nothings with the result that he had the most dismal administration in our history. He was recognized for his ability to bow and scrape before foreign rulers and potentates, apparently trying to appear humble. All he achieved was looking like a jackass!

Thank God we have President Trump in office; he is leading us back from the black hole of a national disaster to our return as a nation of p***e, accomplishment and success. It was absent during the past reign of democrat efforts to lead us away from our lawful roots as a Republic. I'll take a seasoned businessman over a grasping politician anytime as our nations chief executive.
The ONLY things that obama gave us were the larges... (show quote)



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Sep 23, 2018 10:16:37   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Morgan wrote:
You disparaging Obama is a tiresome and typical response from the right, no excuses are left to have the most unp**********l person to sit in that chair ever, and you support a person who lacks such character only reinforces who his base is. The so-call black hole you speak of was CREATED by the c***ting New Republican Party, which is why, I and many others have left it. The Republican party no longer have lawful roots, this is shown by their c***ting lying ways and not the willingness or want to fix the sabotaging efforts from the Russians in our v****g process, simply due to the fact it works in their favor, as they are selling our country down the river.
You disparaging Obama is a tiresome and typical re... (show quote)




Morgan, you ever being a Republican is almost unbelievable, just like nickolia constantly claims he left the Right too, when anyone can tell he's never had a right lean in his history. No offence intended.

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Sep 23, 2018 10:26:30   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
How do you possibly equate the good he has done in the multiple sectors to which he has applied himself with evil? His list of accolades is long and growing longer daily and is the antithesis of evil. Granted, he may be narcissistic but name a President who has been otherwise. We have had many P**********l speakers who have been more eloquent but he doesn't need the devices that obama needed in order to convey his thoughts. Often off the cuff, with no need for notes and people realize he is addressing the problems we face, not political demagoguery and he makes no mistake about getting divine advice through prayer.

I believe he was selected for his tasks because he can manipulate people; criticize or praise, threaten or reward, he has done more to correct past errors, both national and international, than any other President in our history. If you find that to be evil, that is your burden. I find it overwhelmingly fresh and good for the Republic. Perhaps that is the basis for our differences.
How do you possibly equate the good he has done in... (show quote)


Well said, with verifiable proof to his accomplishments..

Its the overwhelming freshness of our president that infuriates the left,.. He is, afterall, achieving in the face of nothing but Resistance, deflection, lies, etc. from that 50% that wanted more of the same we had under Bo and bringing a more socialistic citizenry.. Big, no yugeeeee mistake there...

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Sep 23, 2018 10:26:49   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Morgan wrote:
Of course you wonder, your nonsensical post reflects that, you see, you can't have it both ways, you either understand the post and can misrepresent, or you don't understand and then intentionally misrepresnting is impossible because it is misinterpreted, have I now gone over your head?

ps try and not to be such a little girl, and that is not a metaphor.


I just agreed with pafret's take on you Morgan.
As far as being a "little girl";
Did you ever grow up enough to take responsibility for your lack of wisdom?
Like I said before; you misrepresent other's positions.

Morgan wrote:
"Where do you get Trump as a humble anything, especially a farm boy? What forces are good and what are evil, I think evil now resides in the white house if you want to call self-interest evil, I know it can be.

You are correct, few things are black and white especially politics, but to think Trump is innocent of political manipulations because he didn't come from DC, that is a very naive notion, manipulating people is a sk**l, one Trump has perfected over decades with his money. Simply look at him being so familiar with getting his own way all the time, look at how he treats people, even people with just as equal importance as himself.

Unfortunately I think there is more t***h than speculation in that original post. Trump is the fictional classic outsider; Metaphor begins here the humble farm boy becomes an invincible warrior and rises to command all of the forces of good in the battle with pure evil.End Metaphor In reality nothing is ever black and white." - Morgan

pafret wrote:
"Unfortunately I think there is more t***h than speculation in that original post. Trump is the fictional classic outsider; Metaphor begins here the humble farm boy becomes an invincible warrior and rises to command all of the forces of good in the battle with pure evil. End Metaphor In reality nothing is ever black and white.

His being an outsider means he has not had the time to cultivate obligations, favors, and friends, Note that there is no mention of Trump manipulating anyone or thing who can protect his back in the infighting that goes on in the Washington cesspool. All of his co-party members consider his every action with regard to how it benefits them personally and they have no allegiance or obligation to protect Trump.

Inevitably Trump will step on the toes of his own party members because they all have their hands out to way too many fat cats, for their e******n expenses. They have other obligations that Trump has not convinced them to renege on. Is this indicative of naivete to you

*******If you wish to make an argument then state your premise. Don't pretend you are responding to my post while you slay straw men. As it stands you may have read my post but you certainly didn't comprehend what you read.******* - pafret

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Sep 23, 2018 10:41:06   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Morgan wrote:
What good has he done that stands on its own merit and not Obama's, not the economy, all he has done is to keep it going from Obama's stimulation. Deregulation has perpetuated that, but in the long run, it will hurt us and the environment.

No, I don't know any other presidents who were a complete narcissist. Make no mistake about him getting divine advice... no comment

What I can possibly credit to evil is when people manipulate and lie for their own self-interest, especially working to represent others.
What good has he done that stands on its own merit... (show quote)


"What I can possibly credit to evil is when people manipulate and lie for their own self-interest, especially working to represent others." - Morgan

You mean like Christine Ford?

Her 4th supposed witness has stated in writing that she recalls no such party and didn't even know who Kavanaugh was in high school.
She is now 0 for 4.
Guess she will have to rely on her 5th and final witness....



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Sep 23, 2018 10:45:52   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
bdamage wrote:
"What I can possibly credit to evil is when people manipulate and lie for their own self-interest, especially working to represent others." - Morgan

You mean like Christine Ford?

Her 4th supposed witness has stated in writing that she recalls no such party and didn't even know who Kavanaugh was in high school.
She is now 0 for 4.
Guess she will have to rely on her 5th and final witness....




Someone needs to make t-shirts of that picture and claim by Michael Robinson.

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Sep 23, 2018 10:47:39   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
pafret wrote:
Unfortunately I think there is more t***h than speculation in that original post. Trump is the fictional classic outsider; the humble farm boy becomes an invincible warrior and rises to command all of the forces of good in the battle with pure evil. In reality nothing is ever black and white. His being an outsider means he has not had the time to cultivate obligations, favors, and friends, who can protect his back in the infighting that goes on in the Washington cesspool. All of his co-party members consider his every action with regard to how it benefits them personally and they have no allegiance or obligation to protect Trump.

Inevitably Trump will step on the toes of his own party members because they all have their hands out to way too many fat cats, for their e******n expenses. They have other obligations that Trump has not convinced them to renege on.
Unfortunately I think there is more t***h than spe... (show quote)


You mean just as every president before him went through the very same misgivings of our corrupt government...

Their desire and “ funding comes before the president or even our country...

Trump can’t be bought and therefore Steamrolls right through them.... They are finding this most difficult to deal with.. Right along with his narcissism and his ability to say just exactly what he’s thinking not caring how it would impacts..

Trump, whether through luck, his own actions or some of both ~~ now sits at a potential crossroads of history... That's an idea that cheers Republicans and terrifies liberals... But that moment is upon us...And Trump knows it and is seizing upon it by correcting so many things other Presidents were to “politics as usual” saving themselves from attacking the issues that directly impact our country. Don’t let NATFA come to mind or the tariff agreements working towards come to mine or the handling of North Korea come to mind or the GDP he’s brought about or the fact we don’t have jobs to be concerned with right this moment anyway and most importantly how he manipulates that stock market by get exactly what is needed which is ensuring a vision of direction of our country...S comfort zone in other words..

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Sep 23, 2018 10:49:07   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
bdamage wrote:
"What I can possibly credit to evil is when people manipulate and lie for their own self-interest, especially working to represent others." - Morgan

You mean like Christine Ford?

Her 4th supposed witness has stated in writing that she recalls no such party and didn't even know who Kavanaugh was in high school.
She is now 0 for 4.
Guess she will have to rely on her 5th and final witness....

"What I can possibly credit to evil is when people manipulate and lie for their own self-interest, especially working to represent others." - Morgan

"You mean like Christine Ford?
Her 4th supposed witness has stated in writing that she recalls no such party and didn't even know who Kavanaugh was in high school.
She is now 0 for 4.
Guess she will have to rely on her 5th and final witness..." - bdamage

Is a fifth witness going to be a charm?
https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2018/9/23/t1-384558-kav14.jpg

WOW!!!!
That is brutal, Dameage control!!!!

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Sep 23, 2018 11:04:40   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Morgan wrote:
What good has he done that stands on its own merit and not Obama's, not the economy, all he has done is to keep it going from Obama's stimulation. Deregulation has perpetuated that, but in the long run, it will hurt us and the environment.

No, I don't know any other presidents who were a complete narcissist. Make no mistake about him getting divine advice... no comment

What I can possibly credit to evil is when people manipulate and lie for their own self-interest, especially working to represent others.
What good has he done that stands on its own merit... (show quote)


You repeatidly make this false assessment of Bo.. Eight years in office and he did nothing about jobs, GDP growth, unemployment, i******s, other than invite them, give stand down orders to border patrol, catch and release.
And you say it is because of Bo?? If it is then why nothing in his eight years??? I ask this question all the time and yet no one answers it.. Do you have the answer???? Please share it with us..

You must be speaking of Hillary in your closing paragraph...Boy that resonates loud and clear..

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Sep 23, 2018 11:12:48   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
pafret wrote:
That won't stop the problem of murder of the innocents or the burden of illegitmate children abandoned to public services. In all probability, it will give rise to other illegal s**ms to support the women and their bastards.


Adoption isn’t considered near enough as an alternative to termination of a baby others so desperately want..<money the reason>

The other issue in supporting a******n is, like it or not, Euthanasia of yet another human being on the planet ties to the conception we are over populated..

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Sep 23, 2018 11:21:39   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
byronglimish wrote:
Morgan, you ever being a Republican is almost unbelievable, just like nickolia constantly claims he left the Right too, when anyone can tell he's never had a right lean in his history. No offence intended.

I have heard of drunks taking a "Right lean" on a light pole to keep from falling down.

Do that count?🤔😉😃😉😏🙄😁😎

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