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Amen and Amen

JohnCorrespondent

Your first question doesn't make much sense. "... issues why ..." ? It appears to be mainly a denigrating comment about Democrats.

In response to your second question: For preservation and protection of our constitution, Democrats have more respect for separation of powers, whereas the Republican Trump doesn't. For economy, the Democrats gave us a good beginning for more economical health care for all, while the Republicans are trying to dismantle that without being able to replace it. I don't have a quick ready answer for all the other details in your question; maybe you can lead the discussion in those other details by saying what good things Republicans are doing in those areas. (I might not stick around, but somebody else might pick up the thread.)

You say that I'm "listening to deceptive rhetoric of the left and the media". Who are you to judge that? What about the deceptive rhetoric of the right and Trump and the Fox network? Even if my argument was lacking in depth, yours is surely shallower, if it's even an argument at all. Read what you wrote and judge for yourself.

Republicans (or whoever you are, Radiance3 and another recent replier, Carol Kelly) (I've assumed you're "Republicans" and that the adversaries to what I write here are "Republicans") don't have to read that long reply post I wrote, but if you do read it and choose to reply to it, try to put at least 10% of the thoughtfulness into your reply that I had put into mine. I spent at least an hour writing it, and I was trying to make it worthwhile for any reader; and most of what the two of you wrote in reply to it is insulting, and empty, rhetoric.

It often seems that what the Republicans want to do is just waste Democrats' time and energy. The Republicans are already doing a pretty good job of doing just that. Mostly the Democrats (who sometimes, as I do, begin to try to have a thoughtful discussion in good faith) eventually have to learn to ignore most of what Republicans say, because so many Republicans don't really care about "words" (see Carol Kelly's recent reply) as something to think about; so many Republicans are just playing a cheap game of baiting or merely insulting and stereotyping. Or if they're not actually trying to do that, anyway it sure looks like that's what they're doing.

You wrote "... the most honest president we ever have". Really? You're referring to President Donald Trump? He may be simpler and more direct or straightforward than other Presidents. But that's not the same thing as being honest. Do you really believe everything he says (including his tweets)?

If all we needed were simplicity, directness, and being straightforward, then Donald Trump might be a good person to play that role.

On the subject of immigrants seeking asylum, he isn't interested in their asylum nor their plights nor what caused their problems, and he doesn't like those people (they're just strangers to him, after all), so, like so many careless people do, he just says wh**ever pops into his head, or in his case, usually tweets it, for example his tweet that i*****l i*******ts are our biggest violent criminals. That's simple, direct, and straightforward behavior from President Trump, but it's also wrong and harmful. If he learned more about those people and acted thoughtfully then he wouldn't stereotype them in that way. A good president is one who learns and acts thoughtfully.

On the subject of the trade war with China: I bring this up here, not because it has anything to do with honesty, but because it has to do with Donald Trump's mode of behavior and whether it's a good way to be a President: Trump's idea is to punish with tariffs. Well, that's probably how he feels about China; and the feeling has some basis in t***h, because there is some kind of trade deficit problem. It's simple, direct, and straightforward behavior on Trump's part to simply keep punishing with more and more tariffs. But I don't think it's going to work very well. China retaliates with tariffs of its own. What else could we expect it to do, just roll over and play dead? Meanwhile, the businesses, and the other countries, which are affected by the tariffs, have to decide how to react to all these tariffs, and how to keep their businesses and their national economies going despite the tariffs. They probably are going to learn to do more and more business, and trade, with other countries, and the U.S. will be more and more left out. Not that I really _know_ what's going to happen, of course, but I can see that it might be a complicated matter and that a lot of countries might rather take their business elsewhere. Consulting with experts, before imposing tariffs, or yet more and more tariffs, would probably have been a good idea. Trump doesn't seem to do that much; rather than consult with experts and weigh their advice carefully, he has a tendency to shoot from the hip, going with how he feels. For some situations (like maybe on some kinds of TV shows), shooting from the hip might be appropriate; however, in the situation of being a President of the U.S., shooting from the hip is not so appropriate, a lot of the time.

Most of what you say about Democrats could be said about the same way about Republicans. For example you say that Democrats do "relentless denigrating". When I see or hear Republicans, that's what I see and hear coming from them: "relentless denigrating". Look at your own post, for example, and what you said in it. Look at how President Trump, a Republican, talks and tweets. He is at least as relentlessly denigrating as any Democrat I've ever seen or heard.

So it may not do much good to just say that some people are relentlessly denigrating. Anybody can say that about anyone else; Republicans can _say_ it about Democrats, and Democrats and _say_ it about Republicans. Just saying it doesn't necessarily make it true or useful information.

(If you don't mind a little critique: Your question about "What plans, projects, and ideas they'll do for our country that will advance our economy, like the economy, national security, national education, and the preservation and protection of our constitution?" is, in my opinion, the more useful part of your post, because it names issues in a way that could start meaningful discussions (so thank you, about that), whereas some of the rest of your post doesn't do that.)