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Sep 11, 2018 21:15:13   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Doc110 would falsely have you believe the Christian Church died for nearly 1500 years, and the Catholic Church began with Peter. This was refuted with factual history in another post. This gives more factual evidence the Christian Church began with the apostles and continues through today. The Catholic church made great efforts to kill all Bible believing Christians over several centuries, committed demonic evil, while furthering false and pagan teachings. What Doc110 post is at the very least dangerous to anyone believing the cult teachings, using Christian terms to deceive but peal back the layers of deception and how the pope's and Bishops fabricated false church doctrine leading followers to hell.

Here are the facts,

THE DARKEST OF THE DARK—
THE CRIMES OF THE POPES PART II

All of these things happened while true Christians were underground, hiding, in fear for their lives. If you were not considered part of Catholicism, you were a “heretic” (someone against the “church”). Being a heretic, which true believers in Jesus were considered, practically guaranteed death, following brutal torture by the Catholic establishment.



An “iron maiden” was a hollow torture device in the shape of a woman, representing the Virgin Mary. Knives or spikes were attached to the inside, where the victim was placed. The “maiden” would then be closed slowly, impaling its victim.

EVIDENCE OF THE ANCIENT UNDERGROUND
PRO-ISRAEL CHURCH, FROM THE OPPOSITION

I know many may raise an eyebrow over our use of the word, underground.38 Therefore, I will present some incredible documentation which may startle you, if not, it will certainly enrich your understanding of true history; events which many may not want you to know about.
Regina Sharif is no friend of Christians who support Israel,39 and thus a witness of the opposition. She provides insight into the existence of the underground and its adherents’ Zionist yearnings.
Incredibly, these true Christians were forced underground due to their millennial hope of the Second Coming of the Messiah. This was contrary to the doctrine of Augustine. This man, one of the official authorities of Catholicism, reinterpreted the Second Coming millennial promise as a “spiritual state,” not a real event. He did this because he felt God was “finished with Israel!” True Christians, however, realizing the relevance of the Bible’s prophecies of Jesus’ return and the return of the Jew to Israel, believed otherwise and were persecuted for this belief!
In the section entitled, “Jewish Restoration and Christian Millenarianism,” from Sharif’s book, Non-Jewish Zionism, she wrote: “One of the most definite effects of the Protestant Reformation was the emerging interest in the fulfillment of Biblical prophecies concerning the End of Time. The core of millenarianism was the belief in the Second Coming of Christ whose return would establish God’s Kingdom on earth, which was to last for 1,000 years (that is, a millennium). Millenarians regarded the future of the Jewish people as an important element in the events to precede the End of Time. In fact, the literal interpretation of the apocalyptic writings in the Bible led them to conclude that the Millennium was to be heralded by the physical Restoration of the Jews as a nation (Israel) to Palestine....After Christianity [Catholicism] became the official religion of the Roman empire in AD 380....Augustine in his City of God seemed to have settled this problem [of millennial teachings], at least until the 16th Century. Using the allegorical methodology, Augustine interpreted the Millennium as a spiritual state....Pre-Reformation semi-sectarian minority movements expressing millenarian yearnings had to remain underground. They were persecuted and suppressed by the Church in Rome....It [millenarianism] continued to find followers in every period of history after the Reformation and finally culminated in 20th Century American fundamentalism which insists that the state of Israel presents the literal fulfillment of prophecy in modern history.”40


MORE EVIDENCE—ANABAPTIST
CHURCHES FROM THE DAYS OF THE APOSTLES
EVADE ROME BY HIDING UNDERGROUND


Quite a piece of evidence! Our second piece of evidence brings to mind the line used by Ronald Reagan to announce his second Presidential term. “You ain’t seen nothing yet!” This evidence will show, to our twentieth century eyes, that still another unbiased historical figure provides critical information about the existence of these true Christian churches.
John T. Christian shows that these churches have existed during the entire Christian era and even before the Roman Catholic Church, which many people are taught was the first and only church until the Reformation. In Christian’s book, History of the Baptists, we read: “Robert Barclay, a Quaker, who wrote largely upon this subject...says of the Baptists: We shall afterwards show the rise of the Anabaptists took place prior to the Reformation of the Church of England, and
there are also reasons for believing that on the Continent of Europe small hidden Christian societies, who have held many of the opinions of the Anabaptists, have existed from the times of the apostles. In the sense of the direct transmission of Divine Truth, and the true nature of spiritual religion, it seems probable that these churches have a lineage or succession more ancient than that of the Roman Church (Barclay, The Inner Life of the Societies of the Commonwealth, 11, 12. London, 1876)....Cardinal Hosius, a member of the Council of Trent, A.D. 1560, in a statement often quoted, says: If the truth of religion were to be judged by the readiness and boldness of which a man of any sect shows in suffering, then the opinion and persuasion of no sect can be truer and surer than that of the Anabaptists since there have been none for these twelve hundred years past, that have been more generally punished or that have more cheerfully and steadfastly undergone, and even offered themselves to the most cruel sorts of punishment than these people (Hosius, Letters Apud Opera, 112-113. Baptist Magazine CVIII, 278. May, 1826).
That Cardinal Hosius dated the history of the Baptists back twelve hundred years[41]...for in yet another place the Cardinal says: The Anabaptists are a pernicious sect. Of which kind the Waldensian brethren seem to have been, although some of them lately, as they testify in their apology, declare that they will no longer re-baptize, as was their former custom; nevertheless, it is certain that many of them retain their custom, and have united with the Anabaptists (Hosius, Works of the Heresæics of our Times, Bk. I. 431. Ed. 1584).
From any standpoint that this Roman Catholic testimony is viewed it is of great importance. The Roman Catholics were in active opposition to the Baptists, through the Inquisition they had been dealing with them for some centuries, they had every avenue of information, they had spared no means to inform themselves, and, consequently, were accurately conversant with the facts. These powerful testimonies to the antiquity of the Baptists are peculiarly weighty. The Baptists were no novelty to the Roman Catholics of the Reformation period.”42






***
BACK TO THE CRIMES OF THE POPES


Pope Sergius III (904-911) is reported to have had a mistress, Marozia, who “filled the papal chair with her illegitimate children.” Bible scholar Henry Halley documents the fact that this era of the papacy is “called in history The Rule of the Harlots (904-963).”
Halley also tells us Anastasius was made Pope by Theodora, Marozia’s mother, for reasons of passion, only to be smothered to death by Marozia. After this, Marozia made both Leo IV (928-929) and Steven VII (929-931) Pope. Finally, John XI (931-936), her very own illegitimate son, was appointed “Pope,” along with her other illegitimate sons. They were Leo VII (936-939), Steven VIII (939-942), Martin III (942-946), and Agapetus II (946-955).
Pope John XII (955-963), Marozia’s grandson, raped virgins, lived with his father’s mistress and was killed one day by the husband of the woman with whom he was sleeping!
Pope Boniface VII (984-985) murdered Pope John XIV and lived on stolen money. “The Bishop of Orleans, referring to John XII, Leo VIII and Boniface VII, called them ‘monsters of guilt, reeking in blood and filth....’ ”
Hildebrand, Pope Gregory VII (1073-1085), attempted to straighten out Roman Catholicism’s simony problem. Simony is the purchase of church offices, such as bishop or priest, with money. At the time, Roman Catholicism owned a large share of all properties. Gregory was very upset that anyone, regardless of qualification, could purchase such offices. This caused Gregory great bitterness toward Henry IV, Emperor of Germany, who deposed Gregory. After this, Gregory deposed Henry, which caused war to follow. In the end, Gregory was driven out of Rome, calling himself “Overlord of Kings and Princes.”
Popes Victor III, Urban II and Pascal II (1086-1118) kept the war going with the German Emperor.

Finish reading using this link

http://ramsheadpress.com/messiah/ch10.html

God Bless all that examine evidence by testing all things if they be true, using the Bible, God's word to test all things. If it doesn't pass the test of scripture or conflicts with scripture then it's not from God.
Test all things I have posted and using the same standard test Doc110's post. Reveal truth and the dark lies for yourself.

Jesus is the son of God, God in the flesh our Lord and Savior
God Bless,
In his Service
Maranatha

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Sep 12, 2018 10:11:58   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Doc110 would falsely have you believe the Christian Church died for nearly 1500 years, and the Catholic Church began with Peter. This was refuted with factual history in another post. This gives more factual evidence the Christian Church began with the apostles and continues through today. The Catholic church made great efforts to kill all Bible believing Christians over several centuries, committed demonic evil, while furthering false and pagan teachings. What Doc110 post is at the very least dangerous to anyone believing the cult teachings, using Christian terms to deceive but peal back the layers of deception and how the pope's and Bishops fabricated false church doctrine leading followers to hell.

Here are the facts,

THE DARKEST OF THE DARK—
THE CRIMES OF THE POPES PART II

All of these things happened while true Christians were underground, hiding, in fear for their lives. If you were not considered part of Catholicism, you were a “heretic” (someone against the “church”). Being a heretic, which true believers in Jesus were considered, practically guaranteed death, following brutal torture by the Catholic establishment.



An “iron maiden” was a hollow torture device in the shape of a woman, representing the Virgin Mary. Knives or spikes were attached to the inside, where the victim was placed. The “maiden” would then be closed slowly, impaling its victim.

EVIDENCE OF THE ANCIENT UNDERGROUND
PRO-ISRAEL CHURCH, FROM THE OPPOSITION

I know many may raise an eyebrow over our use of the word, underground.38 Therefore, I will present some incredible documentation which may startle you, if not, it will certainly enrich your understanding of true history; events which many may not want you to know about.
Regina Sharif is no friend of Christians who support Israel,39 and thus a witness of the opposition. She provides insight into the existence of the underground and its adherents’ Zionist yearnings.
Incredibly, these true Christians were forced underground due to their millennial hope of the Second Coming of the Messiah. This was contrary to the doctrine of Augustine. This man, one of the official authorities of Catholicism, reinterpreted the Second Coming millennial promise as a “spiritual state,” not a real event. He did this because he felt God was “finished with Israel!” True Christians, however, realizing the relevance of the Bible’s prophecies of Jesus’ return and the return of the Jew to Israel, believed otherwise and were persecuted for this belief!
In the section entitled, “Jewish Restoration and Christian Millenarianism,” from Sharif’s book, Non-Jewish Zionism, she wrote: “One of the most definite effects of the Protestant Reformation was the emerging interest in the fulfillment of Biblical prophecies concerning the End of Time. The core of millenarianism was the belief in the Second Coming of Christ whose return would establish God’s Kingdom on earth, which was to last for 1,000 years (that is, a millennium). Millenarians regarded the future of the Jewish people as an important element in the events to precede the End of Time. In fact, the literal interpretation of the apocalyptic writings in the Bible led them to conclude that the Millennium was to be heralded by the physical Restoration of the Jews as a nation (Israel) to Palestine....After Christianity [Catholicism] became the official religion of the Roman empire in AD 380....Augustine in his City of God seemed to have settled this problem [of millennial teachings], at least until the 16th Century. Using the allegorical methodology, Augustine interpreted the Millennium as a spiritual state....Pre-Reformation semi-sectarian minority movements expressing millenarian yearnings had to remain underground. They were persecuted and suppressed by the Church in Rome....It [millenarianism] continued to find followers in every period of history after the Reformation and finally culminated in 20th Century American fundamentalism which insists that the state of Israel presents the literal fulfillment of prophecy in modern history.”40


MORE EVIDENCE—ANABAPTIST
CHURCHES FROM THE DAYS OF THE APOSTLES
EVADE ROME BY HIDING UNDERGROUND


Quite a piece of evidence! Our second piece of evidence brings to mind the line used by Ronald Reagan to announce his second Presidential term. “You ain’t seen nothing yet!” This evidence will show, to our twentieth century eyes, that still another unbiased historical figure provides critical information about the existence of these true Christian churches.
John T. Christian shows that these churches have existed during the entire Christian era and even before the Roman Catholic Church, which many people are taught was the first and only church until the Reformation. In Christian’s book, History of the Baptists, we read: “Robert Barclay, a Quaker, who wrote largely upon this subject...says of the Baptists: We shall afterwards show the rise of the Anabaptists took place prior to the Reformation of the Church of England, and
there are also reasons for believing that on the Continent of Europe small hidden Christian societies, who have held many of the opinions of the Anabaptists, have existed from the times of the apostles. In the sense of the direct transmission of Divine Truth, and the true nature of spiritual religion, it seems probable that these churches have a lineage or succession more ancient than that of the Roman Church (Barclay, The Inner Life of the Societies of the Commonwealth, 11, 12. London, 1876)....Cardinal Hosius, a member of the Council of Trent, A.D. 1560, in a statement often quoted, says: If the truth of religion were to be judged by the readiness and boldness of which a man of any sect shows in suffering, then the opinion and persuasion of no sect can be truer and surer than that of the Anabaptists since there have been none for these twelve hundred years past, that have been more generally punished or that have more cheerfully and steadfastly undergone, and even offered themselves to the most cruel sorts of punishment than these people (Hosius, Letters Apud Opera, 112-113. Baptist Magazine CVIII, 278. May, 1826).
That Cardinal Hosius dated the history of the Baptists back twelve hundred years[41]...for in yet another place the Cardinal says: The Anabaptists are a pernicious sect. Of which kind the Waldensian brethren seem to have been, although some of them lately, as they testify in their apology, declare that they will no longer re-baptize, as was their former custom; nevertheless, it is certain that many of them retain their custom, and have united with the Anabaptists (Hosius, Works of the Heresæics of our Times, Bk. I. 431. Ed. 1584).
From any standpoint that this Roman Catholic testimony is viewed it is of great importance. The Roman Catholics were in active opposition to the Baptists, through the Inquisition they had been dealing with them for some centuries, they had every avenue of information, they had spared no means to inform themselves, and, consequently, were accurately conversant with the facts. These powerful testimonies to the antiquity of the Baptists are peculiarly weighty. The Baptists were no novelty to the Roman Catholics of the Reformation period.”42






***
BACK TO THE CRIMES OF THE POPES


Pope Sergius III (904-911) is reported to have had a mistress, Marozia, who “filled the papal chair with her illegitimate children.” Bible scholar Henry Halley documents the fact that this era of the papacy is “called in history The Rule of the Harlots (904-963).”
Halley also tells us Anastasius was made Pope by Theodora, Marozia’s mother, for reasons of passion, only to be smothered to death by Marozia. After this, Marozia made both Leo IV (928-929) and Steven VII (929-931) Pope. Finally, John XI (931-936), her very own illegitimate son, was appointed “Pope,” along with her other illegitimate sons. They were Leo VII (936-939), Steven VIII (939-942), Martin III (942-946), and Agapetus II (946-955).
Pope John XII (955-963), Marozia’s grandson, raped virgins, lived with his father’s mistress and was killed one day by the husband of the woman with whom he was sleeping!
Pope Boniface VII (984-985) murdered Pope John XIV and lived on stolen money. “The Bishop of Orleans, referring to John XII, Leo VIII and Boniface VII, called them ‘monsters of guilt, reeking in blood and filth....’ ”
Hildebrand, Pope Gregory VII (1073-1085), attempted to straighten out Roman Catholicism’s simony problem. Simony is the purchase of church offices, such as bishop or priest, with money. At the time, Roman Catholicism owned a large share of all properties. Gregory was very upset that anyone, regardless of qualification, could purchase such offices. This caused Gregory great bitterness toward Henry IV, Emperor of Germany, who deposed Gregory. After this, Gregory deposed Henry, which caused war to follow. In the end, Gregory was driven out of Rome, calling himself “Overlord of Kings and Princes.”
Popes Victor III, Urban II and Pascal II (1086-1118) kept the war going with the German Emperor.

Finish reading using this link

http://ramsheadpress.com/messiah/ch10.html

God Bless all that examine evidence by testing all things if they be true, using the Bible, God's word to test all things. If it doesn't pass the test of scripture or conflicts with scripture then it's not from God.
Test all things I have posted and using the same standard test Doc110's post. Reveal truth and the dark lies for yourself.

Jesus is the son of God, God in the flesh our Lord and Savior
God Bless,
In his Service
Maranatha
Doc110 would falsely have you believe the Christia... (show quote)



Well I have been reading the info that you and Karpenter had provided for 4 hrs. And my eyes have become blurred reading this small print on this iPad! So much wonderful info to read! I will read more at a later time! I appreciate the time that it took!

MARANATHA
BJW

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Sep 15, 2018 14:08:19   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
It’s called “Protestant Derangement Syndrome” (PDS)

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