JW

No one understands how the universe originated. No one ever will since there is no way to prove it one way or the other. The scientific principle relies on provability of a thesis. There is no way to prove the origin of the universe without creating another one. Since the scientific principal cannot be applied to the question, it cannot be tested, faith in an unprovable theory must govern. Faith in an unprovable theory is not significantly different than faith in God.

In writing computer programs, and I have written a great many of them, it is possible to write an algorithm that will work perfectly for years only to discover that there are cases that eventually appear that, simply, come out wrong.

A major computer equipment manufacturer produced a line of mortgage calculation machines that I used to test a mortgage program I was writing. In most cases, I matched their numbers but in one case, I kept getting a different answer. I assumed I had made an error somewhere. After several days of woring the formulas manually and by machines, I concluded that the major company's machine was wrong. Since Banks are required to be absolutely accurate describing their mortgages and associated costs, all of the banks using that machine were in violation of the law. I contacted the manufacture and explained their error. They insisted I didn't know what I was talking about but two weeks later they shipped out new chips as updates for all of their machines.

Those machines had been used for years and the errors never were discovered and probably never actually occurred since the calculation I was trying to prove was for an unconventional loan configuration. Sometimes, even the wrong solution can produce the right answers most of the time.

susanblange Loc: USA

I am the Jewish Messiah and as prophesied, the Jews have rejected me as a group. Job 24:1. "Why, seeing times are not hidden from the Almighty, do they that know him not see his days?" They are expecting an ethnically Jewish male and the Messiah is neither male, nor Jewish. I am Israeli, from the tribe of Joseph. They were never Jewish, from the house of Judah. My Doctor is 75 years old and he intends to practice medicine till he's 80. Our identities are something we keep secret. There was supposed to be a surprise when the Messiah comes, and the surprise is that the Messiah is a woman. This was confirmed by both the Angel Gabrielle, and the flying roll (my childhood diary).

acknowledgeurma

You have written:
"I am the living God of Israel, the God of the Jews."
and
"I am the Jewish Messiah and as prophesied, the Jews have rejected me as a group."

Reading this:
http://www.jewfaq.org/mashiach.htm
Is it any wonder "the Jews have rejected you as a group"?

susanblange Loc: USA

I have already fulfilled alot of the requirements of the Messiah. I have already ended two wars in 1984, the Cold war and the civil war in Ireland. Around March, 1988, I wrote M. Gorbachev a letter and asked him to let the Jews emigrate to Israel. About three weeks later, the doors were opened. King David has been reincarnated and he will be reinstated as King of the UK. I am also a descendant of David but I can't prove it. I lead by example and I have a righteous/holy reputation. I will cause the Temple to be rebuilt, and I have also come to cut off the wicked from the earth. I call this "Judgment Day" and it will be the day after my trial. It will affect 97% of earth's inhabitants and they will spontaneously combust. Isaiah 24:6. The Jews are wrong about the divinity of the Messiah, the Messiah is God. I know this because of the vision I had of my own death in October, 1983, my conversation with the Angel Gabrielle about 26 years ago, and the reenactment of the incident in the Garden of Eden about what Adam and Eve did. I played the part of Eve and God.

acknowledgeurma

First on the list of 15 "problems", in the post that began this thread is:
The origin of laws of science: At the heart of science is man’s discovery of the laws of nature that govern the Universe, telling it how to behave. These laws exist, and yet there is absolutely no evidence from nature that such laws can “write” themselves into existence. One cannot be a naturalist and believe such a thing happens, since there is no evidence that such a thing could happen in nature. To believe that the laws of science could write themselves would require a blind “faith.”

Let me see if I can recapitulate your story of the erroneous mortgage algorithm in the terms of the first "problem".

At the heart of mortgage lending is man's discovery of the laws that govern the Banks, telling them how to lend. These laws exist, and yet there is absolutely no evidence from banking that such laws can “write” themselves into existence. One cannot be a banker and believe such a thing happens, since there is no evidence that such a thing could happen in banking. To believe that the laws of mortgage lending could write themselves would require a blind “faith.”

Since we know that a Legislature exists. And a Legislature wrote the laws of mortgage lending, by analogy we prove the existence of a Legislature (God) who wrote the laws of nature that govern the Universe, telling it how to behave.

So, I'm prompted to ask, "Is the Universe an ignorant child that wont know how to behave without these laws?"

And as for, "No one understands how the universe originated." Is it even certain that the universe had an origin?

And, "The scientific principle relies on provability of a thesis." I think most philosophers of science tend to be fallibilists now days,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallibilism
and would more likely say something like, "The scientific principle relies on falsifiability of a thesis."

acknowledgeurma

For the sake of my happiness, I will pretend that you are not who you say you are. I think belief in my pretense may make more sense (to at least 97% of earth's inhabitants), than belief in your visions. Peace.

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

Would you be so kind as too point them out by book, chapter, and verse.

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

Evolution is a theory yet it's taught in schools as fact.

susanblange Loc: USA

@ Blade Runner: I'm still waiting for your interpretation of Psalm 69 and the "crucifixion". Or are you conceding defeat and admitting Jesus didn't fulfill those prophecies? Which verses did Jesus fulfill in Psalm 69 and Job 16?

acknowledgeurma

What do you think scientists mean when they speak of Theories?
Is it the same thing religionists preach about?

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

Yep, the THEORY of evolution doesn't contain one single observable fact yet the Bible has always been verified as fact on numerous occasions...and keeps on being verified.

acknowledgeurma

I suspect your concept of observable is quite different than a scientist's,
perhaps because of what Paul wrote to the Hebrews 11:1
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."