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Are there any Democrats honest enough to admit Trump's accomplishments?
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Aug 31, 2018 17:04:05   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Super Dave wrote:
Just wondering.



There is no such thing as an honest Democrat. Their entire belief system is a lie.

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Aug 31, 2018 17:42:36   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Super Dave wrote:
You people are so desperate trying to deny reality.

You tried giving Obama credit for the economic boom. Since that failed plan B is to deny the existence of the economic boom.

It's funny that the same people that were crying about the tarrifs charged on foreign made goods was being passed on to the American consumer pretend to be stupid enough to think that the corprate taxes on American made goods is not.

The longer you pretend that Trump is not making things better, the dumber you look.
You people are so desperate trying to deny reality... (show quote)




either you and yours are being obstinate or it is impossible for all of you to understand facts..

If you are middle class, you are going to have to pay through the butt for the tax gift to himself and his ultra rich friends.. can you see any way you are not??

The economy without the orange con would have one difference... without the huge gift of cash, we would not be seeing the stock buy backs which are driving the market sky high..

we would however, very likely to have the same down on the street economy, that is not being driven by the over injection of cash..



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Aug 31, 2018 19:24:51   #
debeda
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
There is no such thing as an honest Democrat. Their entire belief system is a lie.



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Aug 31, 2018 19:43:41   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
either you and yours are being obstinate or it is impossible for all of you to understand facts..

If you are middle class, you are going to have to pay through the butt for the tax gift to himself and his ultra rich friends.. can you see any way you are not??

The economy without the orange con would have one difference... without the huge gift of cash, we would not be seeing the stock buy backs which are driving the market sky high..

we would however, very likely to have the same down on the street economy, that is not being driven by the over injection of cash..
either you and yours are being obstinate or it is ... (show quote)
Do you even know what "quantitative easing (QE)" is?

The FED dumped somewhere around $3Trillion into the market propping up the anemic economy while Obama was in office and taking credit for the economy being barely over the cusp of recession.

QE ended well before Trump took office. The economy is now working on it's own, and better than any time Obama had the power to F it up.

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Aug 31, 2018 19:51:31   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Super Dave wrote:
You people are so desperate trying to deny reality.

You tried giving Obama credit for the economic boom. Since that failed plan B is to deny the existence of the economic boom.

It's funny that the same people that were crying about the tarrifs charged on foreign made goods was being passed on to the American consumer pretend to be stupid enough to think that the corprate taxes on American made goods is not.

The longer you pretend that Trump is not making things better, the dumber you look.
You people are so desperate trying to deny reality... (show quote)


Not desperate, nor denying reality. Just amused at your alternative reality.

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Aug 31, 2018 20:02:29   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Super Dave wrote:
Do you even know what "quantitative easing (QE)" is?

The FED dumped somewhere around $3Trillion into the market propping up the anemic economy while Obama was in office and taking credit for the economy being barely over the cusp of recession.

QE ended well before Trump took office. The economy is now working on it's own, and better than any time Obama had the power to F it up.




so, you are finally admitting that the FED knew what they were doing and saved our butt...



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Aug 31, 2018 20:23:21   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
working class stiff wrote:
Not desperate, nor denying reality. Just amused at your alternative reality.


American citizen, consumer, and small business confidence is at a multi-decade high.

That's America's reality.

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Aug 31, 2018 21:36:16   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Super Dave wrote:
American citizen, consumer, and small business confidence is at a multi-decade high.

That's America's reality.


For a minute...but just as surely as things go up they will come down again.

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Aug 31, 2018 21:36:23   #
emarine
 
CDM wrote:
It is a fools errand to believe that a president, any president controls the temperature of an economy if you will. It is just as foolish to believe that the president cannot or does not directly influence the pace of an economy. They do, with a mechanism called 'policy'.

The U.S. Economy primarily because of it's (still) capitalist roots has a natural tendency to want to grow – even a little. You point out that 'deregulation' will cause it to spike. You don't point out that over-regulation will also cause a spike. Spikes go both ways on charts.

Obviously, you want to make a case for Obama's positive influence on our economic successes today. In my humble opinion, the charts you show here are rather pedestrian and fall woefully short of that objective.

I suggest you take the hours it will take to pull the data from the Department of Labor Stats – actual numbers mind you – with a focus on sectors, job type and job longevity. The real story resides there.

Just an observation.
It is a fools errand to believe that a president, ... (show quote)




the charts that I show prove that even with over regulation there is still growth... maybe not fast growth but steady growth... massive deregulation leads to short term gains & bubbles... not a big problem for those with enough behind them to ride it out... not good for the general population... the general population fuels the economy... those that have enough to cover themselves are the economy... the general population always takes the hit when it all goes south... our economy has poor balance...



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Sep 1, 2018 00:31:11   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
He has succeeded in dividing our people even more than they already were. Some people love the tax cuts but our deficit has gone up. He made a lot of people happy with his attacks on Obamacare and cutting people off of food stamps. Puerto Rico is still a shambles but Hey he did a great job. He succeeded in villifying Black athletes protesting racial bias and police brutality on Black people. There is more. I am glad I did not v**e for him. I will have nothing to regret.


This is such a screwed up post!!

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Sep 1, 2018 00:48:21   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
working class stiff wrote:
For a minute...but just as surely as things go up they will come down again.
Naturally.

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Sep 1, 2018 22:15:32   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
kankune wrote:
This is such a screwed up post!!
T***h hurts. 60% of registered v**ers giving Trump an unfavorable rating cannot be wrong. I don't care that he is a Republican ---I do care that he is a wannabe dictator and lousy statesman.

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Sep 1, 2018 22:42:23   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
T***h hurts. 60% of registered v**ers giving Trump an unfavorable rating cannot be wrong. I don't care that he is a Republican ---I do care that he is a wannabe dictator and lousy statesman.

You really surprise me.

The more Trumps policies lowers unemployment and increases the economy, the more bizarre the left gets.

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Sep 2, 2018 06:13:55   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Super Dave wrote:
You really surprise me.

The more Trumps policies lowers unemployment and increases the economy, the more bizarre the left gets.
Trump is bizzare but with blind adoration from his minions he is exalted to God Like status. The man is not normal period.

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Sep 2, 2018 08:08:12   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Trump is bizzare but with blind adoration from his minions he is exalted to God Like status. The man is not normal period.
No. He's not normal. Obama and Hillary aren't normal. Bush43 was normal, and Bill Clinton was kind of normal.

Trump is an arrogant asshole. He's narcissistic and personally abusive. I think this makes him less suited to be POTUS than many others.

But it is unquestionably true that Trump is improving the way government affects the American economy.

Trump's policies are intended to allow Americans access to more prosperity and less imposition by the government. That makes Trump vastly more suited for POTUS than Obama or Hillary.

It's about America. Not about the person in the big chair.

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