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Yet another example of the GOP's steady grind toward F*****m
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Aug 23, 2018 19:42:07   #
rumitoid
 
woodguru wrote:
Right off the bat, how about Obama's SCOTUS pick? That's fact


They "forget."

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Aug 23, 2018 19:48:15   #
rumitoid
 
peter11937 wrote:
There never are.


Prove it, a simple thing. You guys are like 12yo kids on a playground: "Did not." Would you go into court like this or hire a lawyer that offered your entire defense with just an insult for the prosecution and you saying, "So there"? Maybe sticking your tongue out to prove your innocence?

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Aug 23, 2018 19:55:31   #
woodguru
 
rumitoid wrote:
They "forget."


Never knew is more like it

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Aug 23, 2018 20:02:43   #
rumitoid
 
woodguru wrote:
Never knew is more like it


That would be better.

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Aug 23, 2018 20:26:09   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
rumitoid wrote:
Prove it.


What is this about and I don't look for it,It just happened why?
It proves something.
More than the WP picked it up.

https://washingtonpress.com/2018/08/23/trump-just-k**led-a-bipartisan-effort-save-all-future-e******ns-from-russian-attacks/

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Aug 24, 2018 05:49:42   #
debeda
 
bahmer wrote:
F*****m is a form of government which is a type of one-party dictatorship. F*****ts are against democracy. They work for a totalitarian one-party state. ... It stands for a centralized government headed by a dictator. This describes the democrat party far more than the republicans sorry about that.


AGREED!! And gerrymandering? The dems have been scrambling that action since Prez T***p w*n. Silly silly dems.

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Aug 24, 2018 05:51:59   #
debeda
 
woodguru wrote:
It is republicans in control of legislatures trying to impeach the left side of whole benches because they are shooting down jerrymanders and constitutional violations. It is happening over and over.

How would you feel if dems got control and tried to impeach all five conservative justices on the supreme court? This is what's happening and so far all I can see is that the right doesn't have a problem with GOP senates and houses trying to do this. They see a state supreme court call them on a constitutional violation and they use their control to impeach all of half of a supreme court bench that opposes the conservatives?

I don't care whether you are right or left it's wrong and if you support the constitution and are a patriot you have to object to that kind of actions.
It is republicans in control of legislatures tryin... (show quote)


WTH are you talking about. No one is "impeaching supreme court justices!!! Where do you people get this stuff???

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Aug 24, 2018 06:55:28   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
rumitoid wrote:
The list and extent is steadily growing: Gerrymandering, v**er suppression ID laws, changing polling rules (such as in Georgia trying to do away with 7 out of 9 polling places on a Black majority county), denying to v**e on Obama's SCOTUS nomination, resisting federal court rulings on unconstitutional gerrymandering v**er suppression laws, and more. Here is a very scary threat to our democracy.

The question at the heart of West Virginia lawmakers' unprecedented move to impeach all of the state’s top justices is intent. Did lawmakers in the state House v**e Monday to impeach the entire court because the justices were misusing state funds to a degree that merits impeachment? Or are West Virginia’s Republican lawmakers trying to get rid of the justices on trumped-up charges so the state’s GOP governor can appoint new ones?

Intent, in politics as in life, is hard to decipher. But what is not in question among judicial independence experts is West Virginia headlines a potentially troubling trend among state legislatures this year of politicians moving to exert control over a separate branch of government.

Lawmakers in 16 states have considered more than 50 different bills to minimize the role of state courts or make it harder for judges to do their jobs, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice, which described this as an “assault” on the judicial branch: “In the Trump era, courts frequently appear to be the last line of defense against partisan overreach. But in many states, courts’ vital role in our democracy is under threat.”

To some degree, tension between state courts and state government is normal. But what is going on now is not, says Doug Keith with the Brennan Center. The center’s research found that in the past 25 years, just two state judges have been impeached. Compare that with 2018, where on one day in one year, lawmakers impeached four justices. That was just in one state.

In North Carolina, the Republican-controlled legislature managed to get a constitutional amendment on the b****t in November to give lawmakers a lot more control over appointing judges. Right now the state’s Democratic governor gets to do that.

In Arkansas, lawmakers v**ed to put a measure on the b****t this November that would let them seize control over writing much of the top court’s rules.

In Missouri, Oklahoma and South Carolina, lawmakers proposed legislation to gut the role of independent commissions that nominate judges for the governor to appoint to the courts. Some Iowa and Missouri lawmakers proposed a constitutional amendment to outright eliminate its independent commission that selects judges.

One of the most blatantly political efforts to rein in a court came this year in Pennsylvania, where a dozen Republican lawmakers filed a resolution to impeach Democratic justices who threw out Republicans' congressional map. That effort has stalled, but it was only one of a few examples in recent history of lawmakers trying to impeach justices for specific rulings.

[Pennsylvania' Supreme Court just gave Democrats a big win on redistricting]

No state has gone further than West Virginia, though. Republicans in the state House said the impeachment was necessary to restore faith in the court after allegations of lavish spending on the part of some justices to renovate their offices. One suspended justice, Allen H. Loughry III, is facing a 23-count federal indictment on charges of fraud and obstruction of justice related to that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/08/14/west-virginias-efforts-impeach-states-supreme-court-is-just-latest-worrisome-trend/?utm_term=.8531cd4bb27e
“It has become clear that our Supreme Court has breached the public trust and lost the confidence of our citizens,” state House Speaker John Overington (R) said Monday.

But Democrats and good-government advocates in the state say this does not sit right. They worry lawmakers are taking advantage of one scandal to seize control of the entire court. After Tuesday, the governor can appoint justices to sit on the court until 2020.

“We feel West Virginians are right to be outraged about justices' alleged spending,” said Julie Archer with West Virginia Citizens for Clean E******ns, “but we think the optics of what’s happening is really bad: potentially removing multiple justices, subverting the v**e of the people and letting the governor fill multiple vacancies on the court.”

"No charges have been brought against any other justices," she added. "It just seems suspicious that all of a sudden they are being swept up in this as well."

Not helping quell fears is the impeachment was done almost entirely along partisan lines in the Republican-controlled House and would inevitably benefit Republicans. If these justices lose their trial in the Republican-controlled state Senate, Republican Gov. Jim Justice will get to appoint new ones. Those justices will not be up for ree******n again until 2020, when they will ostensibly have the advantage of incumbency.

Democratic Justice Robin Davis retired Tuesday rather than face impeachment, bashing the impeachment as a breach of justice: “What we are witnessing is a disaster for the rule of law, the foundation of our state and indeed, our own society."

West Virginia Supreme Court Justice Robin Davis announces her retirement Tuesday. (Craig Hudson /Charleston Gazette-Mail/AP)

It is impossible to pin down one reason for lawmakers taking increasingly bold actions against courts, Keith said. But it is noteworthy that this is all happening under the umbrella of a president who routinely attacks the courts and independent judicial system for rulings or investigations he does not like.

“It is difficult to divorce this from all the rhetoric we are seeing around the courts,” Keith said. “When you hear political leadership talking about courts that way, it certainly seems to give state legislatures the green light to push the envelope.”
The list and extent is steadily growing: Gerrymand... (show quote)



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Aug 25, 2018 16:26:50   #
rumitoid
 
debeda wrote:
WTH are you talking about. No one is "impeaching supreme court justices!!! Where do you people get this stuff???


State Supreme Court. Pay attention. Typical lack of attention by the Right.

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Aug 25, 2018 16:27:19   #
rumitoid
 
Bad Bob wrote:


Thank you, brother.

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Aug 25, 2018 16:28:50   #
debeda
 
rumitoid wrote:
State Supreme Court. Pay attention.


You pay attention. You specifically said supreme court.

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Aug 25, 2018 16:44:37   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
debeda wrote:
You pay attention. You specifically said supreme court.


not to bicker but what I am reading clearly says State Supreme Court. just saying.

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Aug 25, 2018 17:05:18   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
rumitoid wrote:
"The Republicans are just more recent. Your complaints would be far more believable if they contained any references to Liberal Democrat misbehavior. The politicians in your party certainly don't wear halos around their heads." Agreed, but the art has been perfected and it is, I feel, being yielded with greater focus and strength, perhaps not directly for f*****m but surely toward maintaining one party's permanent dominance and the hope of a one party system.


Exactly what Democrats and their RINO colleagues hope for. With a ree******n rate in the high ninetieth percentile, I don't know why incumbents would want to rock the boat. The Democratic Party's insistence that proving you are who you say you are before you are allowed to r******r to v**e is somehow discriminatory is ample evidence of their own desires in that direction, seeing that illegal v**es almost always accrue to their advantage.

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Aug 25, 2018 17:09:13   #
woodguru
 
debeda wrote:
WTH are you talking about. No one is "impeaching supreme court justices!!! Where do you people get this stuff???


State supreme courts, and more than one are trying to level off their entire benches of the left judges that oppose them

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Aug 25, 2018 17:12:06   #
woodguru
 
debeda wrote:
You pay attention. You specifically said supreme court.


It was in context to a state legislature's supreme court...

I pointed out that it would be just like dems getting a lock on both the senate and house and getting rid of all five conservative judges, the right would have a cow.

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