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Cohen's Credibility Has Never Been Higher, His Future Depends On 100% Honesty And Cooperation
Aug 22, 2018 13:55:13   #
woodguru
 
I know the right has it in their heads that the deep state is pressuring Trump associates with crimes so as to "force" them to lie about Trump. Two factors come into play, the more complicated and involved things get, the more players are involved, the harder it gets to fabricate a cohesive fabricated story that's a lie. Actually the complicated ones get easier and easier to prove when multiple sources and evidence all fits into the picture.

Prosecutors will be more and more careful to make sure any element of evidence or testimony can't be impeached by making sure that each thing has backup. When multiple people all have knowledge of something key to an investigation breaking one person helps get the real t***h out of others because it can be used as leverage to force someone to tell what somebody else already is. Lying breaks any plea bargains for reduced sentences and brings on full sentences.

Cohen apparently has a deal that reduces over 30 years in jail to four or less, do you think he would even think about lying? Trump simply can't pardon Cohen without triggering obstruction charges that result in impeachment if not being indicted as well. The GOP is going to cave and impeach as a result of what Cohen is saying about Trump's knowledge and role in paying off Stormy and his other bimbo. It's obvious that the timing is related to a fear that this information coming out might have cost him the e******n. The lying about this to the public should hbe enough to justify an impeachment, when you add worse violations and e******n tampering and criminal campaign financial violations, the GOP has to cave before the e******n.

I'm way okay with Pence, at least he has a politician's understanding of what a president can get away with, Trump didn't get it from the time he blatantly skirted nepotism laws.

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Aug 22, 2018 14:12:31   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
I know the right has it in their heads that the deep state is pressuring Trump associates with crimes so as to "force" them to lie about Trump. Two factors come into play, the more complicated and involved things get, the more players are involved, the harder it gets to fabricate a cohesive fabricated story that's a lie. Actually the complicated ones get easier and easier to prove when multiple sources and evidence all fits into the picture.

Prosecutors will be more and more careful to make sure any element of evidence or testimony can't be impeached by making sure that each thing has backup. When multiple people all have knowledge of something key to an investigation breaking one person helps get the real t***h out of others because it can be used as leverage to force someone to tell what somebody else already is. Lying breaks any plea bargains for reduced sentences and brings on full sentences.

Cohen apparently has a deal that reduces over 30 years in jail to four or less, do you think he would even think about lying? Trump simply can't pardon Cohen without triggering obstruction charges that result in impeachment if not being indicted as well. The GOP is going to cave and impeach as a result of what Cohen is saying about Trump's knowledge and role in paying off Stormy and his other bimbo. It's obvious that the timing is related to a fear that this information coming out might have cost him the e******n. The lying about this to the public should hbe enough to justify an impeachment, when you add worse violations and e******n tampering and criminal campaign financial violations, the GOP has to cave before the e******n.

I'm way okay with Pence, at least he has a politician's understanding of what a president can get away with, Trump didn't get it from the time he blatantly skirted nepotism laws.
I know the right has it in their heads that the de... (show quote)

Newsflash!

There is absolutely nothing in these convictions or plea bargains that implicate president Trump in any way, there is nothing there that has anything to with Trump's campaign or in violation of campaign finance law.

Following the passage of the McCain Feingold Act, upon recommendation from senators and reps, Bill Clinton appointed Bradley Smith to chair the Federal E******n Commission. Smith was an outspoken opponent of the McCain Feingold Act, but he was the most knowledgeable about the law and most articulate in writing the best interpretations of it. He chaired the commission when it wrote the MF Act into FEC law. Today, Smith came on a radio program and explained quite clearly that the charges against Cohen did not in any way violate campaign finance law.

In this case, the prosecutor attempted to write his own campaign finance law in an effort to connect this to the president. Fact is, Herr Mueller handed off the investigation and prosecution of Cohen to the Southern District US Court of New York, which essentially removed the case from the special counsel witch hunt. Mueller knew there was nothing there that could implicate Trump.

Contrary to the media hype, when Trump told Cohen to make a payoff to eliminate a problem, he did not "order Cohen to commit a crime". There is no law against making such a payoff, especially since the money did not come from any campaign fund.

Cohen and his lawyer are as crooked as a bag of snakes. Davis is a hard-core Hillary supporter and donor, Cohen is a tax c***t. both of them are shysters. A lawyer who records meetings with his client is deceptive, dishonest and violates attorney/client confidentiality.

No mystery why a fool like you would see a criminal lawyer as one whose integrity is impeccable.

In Manafort's case, all the charges against him, the crimes he committed, all occurred before he ever became a short term campaign manager for Trump.

Neither of these two crooks have anything whatsoever with which to "flip" on Trump.

I will stand with the expert analysis by the FEC chairman who wrote the campaign finance law rather than the emotional hype of a highly prejudiced media and the biased opinions of so-called "legal experts" the media parades across their stages.

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Aug 22, 2018 14:28:58   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
woodguru wrote:
I know the right has it in their heads that the deep state is pressuring Trump associates with crimes so as to "force" them to lie about Trump. Two factors come into play, the more complicated and involved things get, the more players are involved, the harder it gets to fabricate a cohesive fabricated story that's a lie. Actually the complicated ones get easier and easier to prove when multiple sources and evidence all fits into the picture.

Prosecutors will be more and more careful to make sure any element of evidence or testimony can't be impeached by making sure that each thing has backup. When multiple people all have knowledge of something key to an investigation breaking one person helps get the real t***h out of others because it can be used as leverage to force someone to tell what somebody else already is. Lying breaks any plea bargains for reduced sentences and brings on full sentences.

Cohen apparently has a deal that reduces over 30 years in jail to four or less, do you think he would even think about lying? Trump simply can't pardon Cohen without triggering obstruction charges that result in impeachment if not being indicted as well. The GOP is going to cave and impeach as a result of what Cohen is saying about Trump's knowledge and role in paying off Stormy and his other bimbo. It's obvious that the timing is related to a fear that this information coming out might have cost him the e******n. The lying about this to the public should hbe enough to justify an impeachment, when you add worse violations and e******n tampering and criminal campaign financial violations, the GOP has to cave before the e******n.

I'm way okay with Pence, at least he has a politician's understanding of what a president can get away with, Trump didn't get it from the time he blatantly skirted nepotism laws.
I know the right has it in their heads that the de... (show quote)


Lie, lie, lie, lie. The endless Mantra of the left. Of course he didn't want the information to be made public, it would wreck his marriage as well as harm his image in public opinion. If the Whore Stormy Daniels was willing to take money to shut up why not? The public had no right to know.

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Aug 22, 2018 14:36:09   #
woodguru
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Newsflash!

There is absolutely nothing in these convictions or plea bargains that implicate president Trump in any way, there is nothing there that has anything to with Trump's campaign or in violation of campaign finance law.


It's all in those pesky little details, Clinton didn't trigger articles of impeachment because he got a blowjob, it was because he lied about it.

You can stand on technicalies of e******n tampering, or misuse of e******n campaign funds all you want, but the president has lied in layers on top of layers, changing his story the whole time. Cohens tapes puts Trump discussing payoffs he went public saying he knew nothing about...busted, guilty of lying to the public, impeachment called for for violations of public trust. These violations have a laundry list, but the violation of public trust is the easiest to prove.

The right has gotten so used to their president being a liar, and it being okay that it's easy to forget that lying is not okay, and has these specific statutes which even the president is subject to being held accountable for, actually especially needs to be held accountable for.

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Aug 22, 2018 14:42:06   #
woodguru
 
pafret wrote:
Lie, lie, lie, lie. The endless Mantra of the left. Of course he didn't want the information to be made public, it would wreck his marriage as well as harm his image in public opinion. If the Whore Stormy Daniels was willing to take money to shut up why not? The public had no right to know.


If that were it, yes, but he should have written a personal check as opposed to be such a tightwad that he wanted to use campaign funds to pay Cohen back (with lots of interest).

Lie Lie Lie, it's all Trump does, don't you get s**k of it? More importantly if this is what he does why do you believe that he has had no involvement with Russia? He lies about everything else.

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Aug 22, 2018 14:47:26   #
woodguru
 
https://dmlnews.com/video-trump-speaks-hush-money-payments-exclusive-interview/

So right there Trump just openly corroborated that he did in fact lie before about not knowing about this trying to cover his alternative fact that campaign funds were not used. He can and should be impeached on the grounds of the violation of public trust statutes. That's all it takes and it is a big deal.

Serial liars get tripped up by their layers of lies, it would serve a perverse sense of justice if the biggest liar we've ever had as president goes down on (pun intended) lies.

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Aug 22, 2018 16:07:53   #
bobebgtime Loc: Virginia
 
woodguru wrote:
I know the right has it in their heads that the deep state is pressuring Trump associates with crimes so as to "force" them to lie about Trump. Two factors come into play, the more complicated and involved things get, the more players are involved, the harder it gets to fabricate a cohesive fabricated story that's a lie. Actually the complicated ones get easier and easier to prove when multiple sources and evidence all fits into the picture.

Prosecutors will be more and more careful to make sure any element of evidence or testimony can't be impeached by making sure that each thing has backup. When multiple people all have knowledge of something key to an investigation breaking one person helps get the real t***h out of others because it can be used as leverage to force someone to tell what somebody else already is. Lying breaks any plea bargains for reduced sentences and brings on full sentences.

Cohen apparently has a deal that reduces over 30 years in jail to four or less, do you think he would even think about lying? Trump simply can't pardon Cohen without triggering obstruction charges that result in impeachment if not being indicted as well. The GOP is going to cave and impeach as a result of what Cohen is saying about Trump's knowledge and role in paying off Stormy and his other bimbo. It's obvious that the timing is related to a fear that this information coming out might have cost him the e******n. The lying about this to the public should hbe enough to justify an impeachment, when you add worse violations and e******n tampering and criminal campaign financial violations, the GOP has to cave before the e******n.

I'm way okay with Pence, at least he has a politician's understanding of what a president can get away with, Trump didn't get it from the time he blatantly skirted nepotism laws.
I know the right has it in their heads that the de... (show quote)



You stated that Cohen’s credibility has never been higher?? Cohen has zero credibility,no integrity or principles he is a scumbag,He will never practice law again. You are right about one thing he has cut a deal. However I doubt he’s had a moment of clarity regarding being honest. He is only a Mueller stooge, he will say what Mueller tells him to say word for word.

This bulls**t inquiry has been gone for over 18 months and every week or so you people go into a frenzy we got him now, this time for sure, But you never do. Do you think it's easy to impeach a sitting president? It’s very difficult process. No president to date has been removed from office via the impeachment process. Bill Clinton and Andrew Johnson were impeached by the House. Neither one was convicted by the Senate. You might say that the threat of being impeached and convicted caused Richard Nixon to resign and leave office, but technically he left. Trump will not be impeached

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Aug 22, 2018 16:34:41   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
woodguru wrote:
If that were it, yes, but he should have written a personal check as opposed to be such a tightwad that he wanted to use campaign funds to pay Cohen back (with lots of interest).

Lie Lie Lie, it's all Trump does, don't you get s**k of it? More importantly if this is what he does why do you believe that he has had no involvement with Russia? He lies about everything else.


Campaign funds? You mean he took the payment from his left pocket instead of his right?

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Aug 22, 2018 21:08:04   #
vernon
 
woodguru wrote:
I know the right has it in their heads that the deep state is pressuring Trump associates with crimes so as to "force" them to lie about Trump. Two factors come into play, the more complicated and involved things get, the more players are involved, the harder it gets to fabricate a cohesive fabricated story that's a lie. Actually the complicated ones get easier and easier to prove when multiple sources and evidence all fits into the picture.

Prosecutors will be more and more careful to make sure any element of evidence or testimony can't be impeached by making sure that each thing has backup. When multiple people all have knowledge of something key to an investigation breaking one person helps get the real t***h out of others because it can be used as leverage to force someone to tell what somebody else already is. Lying breaks any plea bargains for reduced sentences and brings on full sentences.

Cohen apparently has a deal that reduces over 30 years in jail to four or less, do you think he would even think about lying? Trump simply can't pardon Cohen without triggering obstruction charges that result in impeachment if not being indicted as well. The GOP is going to cave and impeach as a result of what Cohen is saying about Trump's knowledge and role in paying off Stormy and his other bimbo. It's obvious that the timing is related to a fear that this information coming out might have cost him the e******n. The lying about this to the public should hbe enough to justify an impeachment, when you add worse violations and e******n tampering and criminal campaign financial violations, the GOP has to cave before the e******n.

I'm way okay with Pence, at least he has a politician's understanding of what a president can get away with, Trump didn't get it from the time he blatantly skirted nepotism laws.
I know the right has it in their heads that the de... (show quote)


You just dream on.Trump isn't going to get impeached because not one of the acquisitions you just blabbered about are true.

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