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Trump to Announce Mideast Peace Deal at UN Next Month?
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Aug 22, 2018 00:22:47   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
First heard this reported on End of the Age and looked up the article on Israel National News

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/250824

Some of you will know what a peace deal means. Look for 4 elements:

1) Israel's right to exist will be agreed to

2) The Palestinians will get their homeland

3) The Jews will begin rebuilding the Temple because the Temple Mount will come under some kind of sharing arrangement

4) The issue of dividing Jerusalem will be put off

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Aug 22, 2018 06:39:59   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
BigMike wrote:
First heard this reported on End of the Age and looked up the article on Israel National News

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/250824

Some of you will know what a peace deal means. Look for 4 elements:

1) Israel's right to exist will be agreed to

2) The Palestinians will get their homeland

3) The Jews will begin rebuilding the Temple because the Temple Mount will come under some kind of sharing arrangement

4) The issue of dividing Jerusalem will be put off
First heard this reported on End of the Age and lo... (show quote)

Could the Rapture be this September 10 or 11 - those who understand will know what I'm talking about...just speculating, not date setting. Could this be Daniel's covenant as rendered in the KJV that will be confirmed (or strengthened) "with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease?" Interesting "stuff."

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Aug 22, 2018 15:35:53   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Could the Rapture be this September 10 or 11 - those who understand will know what I'm talking about...just speculating, not date setting. Could this be Daniel's covenant as rendered in the KJV that will be confirmed (or strengthened) "with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease?" Interesting "stuff."


No...if they sign the deal we have approximately 3 1/2 years before the "world community" pressures whoever leads it to put a stop to it. Can you imagine the PETA freak-out when they start having morning and evening sacrifices? Then we have another 3 1/2 years before they march on Jerusalem to enforce UN Resolution 2334.

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Aug 22, 2018 16:41:47   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
BigMike wrote:
No...if they sign the deal we have approximately 3 1/2 years before the "world community" pressures whoever leads it to put a stop to it. Can you imagine the PETA freak-out when they start having morning and evening sacrifices? Then we have another 3 1/2 years before they march on Jerusalem to enforce UN Resolution 2334.

Other than the timing, I agree with you (But no need to argue - pre-Trib, mid-Trib, post-Trib, etc. - since it's not a salvation issue). UN Resolution 2334 may very well play right into it.

And he will make a firm <H1396> covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering. (Dan 9:27a NASB)

"H1396" t***slates to:
T***sliteration:
gābar
Phonetic Pronunciation: gaw-bar'
Definition:
a primitive root; to be strong; by implication to prevail, act insolently :- exceed, confirm, be great, be mighty, prevail, put to more [strength], strengthen, be stronger, be valiant.

May be in other words, just as you allude to, the “world community” and “he” (the Antichrist) ENFORCES (or any other of the definitions) the treaty. And it may very well include UN Resolution 2334.

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Aug 22, 2018 16:45:37   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Other than the timing, I agree with you (But no need to argue - pre-Trib, mid-Trib, post-Trib, etc. - since it's not a salvation issue). UN Resolution 2334 may very well play right into it.

And he will make a firm <H1396> covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering. (Dan 9:27a NASB)

"H1396" t***slates to:
T***sliteration:
gābar
Phonetic Pronunciation: gaw-bar'
Definition:
a primitive root; to be strong; by implication to prevail, act insolently :- exceed, confirm, be great, be mighty, prevail, put to more [strength], strengthen, be stronger, be valiant.

May be in other words, just as you allude to, the “world community” and “he” (the Antichrist) ENFORCES (or any other of the definitions) the treaty. And it may very well include UN Resolution 2334.
Other than the timing, I agree with you (But no ne... (show quote)


Exactly...they aren't going to call it the government of the antichrist.

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Aug 22, 2018 16:56:21   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
BigMike wrote:
Exactly...they aren't going to call it the government of the antichrist.

Actually, now that I read your post again about the timing of the 3 1/2 years, we're in FULL agreement.

Another point: "with the many" = UN countries?

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Aug 22, 2018 20:46:58   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Actually, now that I read your post again about the timing of the 3 1/2 years, we're in FULL agreement.

Another point: "with the many" = UN countries?


Pay attention to the coalescing "coalition of the willing".

That sharing arrangement I mentioned (there's an amazing story behind it)...the sharing of the Temple Mount. UNESCO may declare it a World Heritage site and open it to Jews and Christians.

If they don't the Jews will only wait so long and they'll build it over the secondary site where that spring is...the name escapes me. You sound like you already know they have all the furnishings ready and have actively breeding a perfect red heifer for three generations (of cow! ) and the nation of Israel is keenly aware they are ceremonially unclean. The Rabbis have told them to avoid the Temple Mount.

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Aug 22, 2018 23:24:35   #
Sicilianthing
 
BigMike wrote:
First heard this reported on End of the Age and looked up the article on Israel National News

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/250824

Some of you will know what a peace deal means. Look for 4 elements:

1) Israel's right to exist will be agreed to

2) The Palestinians will get their homeland

3) The Jews will begin rebuilding the Temple because the Temple Mount will come under some kind of sharing arrangement

4) The issue of dividing Jerusalem will be put off
First heard this reported on End of the Age and lo... (show quote)


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Hmmm

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Aug 23, 2018 00:54:36   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Hmmm


If you knew the golden carrots being offered to the Palestinians and how much PRESSURE the Egyptians and Saudis are putting on the them it would make you laugh. I'm not kidding. Sending Kushner and Greenblatt on a 6 month scouting tour was a brilliant move on Trump's part. Kushner has the Mideast credibility of being married to Trump's daughter and Greenblatt is Trump's real lawyer of many years.

When they came back the only thing no one involved would agree on was Jerusalem. So Trump basically took it off the table by moving the embassy. Another brilliant move.

You'll note, I said part of the upcoming "Peace Deal" would be putting of the issue of Jerusalem for a period of time...6-7ish years.

That tells you immediately the peace deal is temporary...which doesn't clash with the Palestinian brand of Islam. You can make a deal with an enemy for a period of, like, up to ten years...but you're always more or less obligated as a Muslim to retake any territory you've ever occupied.

Abbas has said he won't deal with Trump but Trump has, for now, a little help from Putin who doesn't want his oligarch buddies being axed from world financial institutions. Putin could even lead the negotiations because it will be Trump's plan and that's fine with Trump. Plus, as you know, Putin has the goods on the hag and the KKKK and I'm sure Trump got a few hot tips in their little private chat.

It was fun to watch the collective freak out over that one! Putin was the one person on earth Klinton did not want Trump palling around with!

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Aug 23, 2018 11:19:52   #
Sicilianthing
 
BigMike wrote:
If you knew the golden carrots being offered to the Palestinians and how much PRESSURE the Egyptians and Saudis are putting on the them it would make you laugh. I'm not kidding. Sending Kushner and Greenblatt on a 6 month scouting tour was a brilliant move on Trump's part. Kushner has the Mideast credibility of being married to Trump's daughter and Greenblatt is Trump's real lawyer of many years.

When they came back the only thing no one involved would agree on was Jerusalem. So Trump basically took it off the table by moving the embassy. Another brilliant move.

You'll note, I said part of the upcoming "Peace Deal" would be putting of the issue of Jerusalem for a period of time...6-7ish years.

That tells you immediately the peace deal is temporary...which doesn't clash with the Palestinian brand of Islam. You can make a deal with an enemy for a period of, like, up to ten years...but you're always more or less obligated as a Muslim to retake any territory you've ever occupied.

Abbas has said he won't deal with Trump but Trump has, for now, a little help from Putin who doesn't want his oligarch buddies being axed from world financial institutions. Putin could even lead the negotiations because it will be Trump's plan and that's fine with Trump. Plus, as you know, Putin has the goods on the hag and the KKKK and I'm sure Trump got a few hot tips in their little private chat.

It was fun to watch the collective freak out over that one! Putin was the one person on earth Klinton did not want Trump palling around with!
If you knew the golden carrots being offered to th... (show quote)


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I can see this somewhat, makes sense, above my pay grade but I’m still looking for the Wild Cards to appear in all this too.

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Aug 23, 2018 23:58:03   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I can see this somewhat, makes sense, above my pay grade but I’m still looking for the Wild Cards to appear in all this too.


They've been in play this whole time. Trump has been 20 moves ahead despite the BS. All this hoopla is Trump and the military letting Americans get used to the idea criminals have been running the country since Bush I...and an ongoing courtesy to some to get out of Dodge with their pensions intact.

In the meantime there's so much more in current events than we get from the "legacy media" and they're related to what's happening here. Even Fox usually sticks to the 4-6 issue, 24/7 until they beat it to dead horse pudding, keep Americans stupid about the rest of the world bulls**t.

This is why I search for things until I find them...but it can't agree with my feelings. I may not like it...like waiting for the hammer to drop on people we all know are t*****rs, criminals and would have sold us out to the g*******t elites if Klinton had won as they all thought she would. You get how significant that is, right? They thought she would. They set it up for her. The Wild Card went into play when the Dems lost House and Senate. This is just a continuation of that. I knew she would get caught up before Trump announced.

Right around early 2015 history sped up. It sped up again.

"If I had not shortened the time no flesh would be saved".

I always thought I knew what that meant and I kinda did, but what I'm learning is scripture is layered and here's what I got from it:

God is the Wild Card and He's speaking with millions of Americans in the privacy of their hearts while all this crap goes on. People who don't know Him are being convinced how evil it would be if the Dems get their way...even a lot of Dems!

He's screwed the pooch for the g*******ts here and He's made the ones abroad move before they're ready...He shortened the time!

And the pollsters' dynamic won't account for that.

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Aug 24, 2018 00:30:08   #
Sicilianthing
 
BigMike wrote:
They've been in play this whole time. Trump has been 20 moves ahead despite the BS. All this hoopla is Trump and the military letting Americans get used to the idea criminals have been running the country since Bush I...and an ongoing courtesy to some to get out of Dodge with their pensions intact.

In the meantime there's so much more in current events than we get from the "legacy media" and they're related to what's happening here. Even Fox usually sticks to the 4-6 issue, 24/7 until they beat it to dead horse pudding, keep Americans stupid about the rest of the world bulls**t.

This is why I search for things until I find them...but it can't agree with my feelings. I may not like it...like waiting for the hammer to drop on people we all know are t*****rs, criminals and would have sold us out to the g*******t elites if Klinton had won as they all thought she would. You get how significant that is, right? They thought she would. They set it up for her. The Wild Card went into play when the Dems lost House and Senate. This is just a continuation of that. I knew she would get caught up before Trump announced.

Right around early 2015 history sped up. It sped up again.

"If I had not shortened the time no flesh would be saved".

I always thought I knew what that meant and I kinda did, but what I'm learning is scripture is layered and here's what I got from it:

God is the Wild Card and He's speaking with millions of Americans in the privacy of their hearts while all this crap goes on. People who don't know Him are being convinced how evil it would be if the Dems get their way...even a lot of Dems!

He's screwed the pooch for the g*******ts here and He's made the ones abroad move before they're ready...He shortened the time!

And the pollsters' dynamic won't account for that.
They've been in play this whole time. Trump has be... (show quote)


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I understand and I pray you’re right.
Yes it’s very strange that I see and feel time has sped up indeed.

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Aug 24, 2018 01:03:51   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I understand and I pray you’re right.
Yes it’s very strange that I see and feel time has sped up indeed.


I'll bet a whole lot of others are beginning to feel it too.

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Aug 24, 2018 12:07:09   #
Sicilianthing
 
BigMike wrote:
I'll bet a whole lot of others are beginning to feel it too.


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I guess, I haven’t come across to many that feel like you and I do, or pay attention that much, but I do know they are changing their behaviors and attitudes toward things in their daily routines.

I see they sense something isnt’ right ...
something is off or wrong
Something isn’t the safe, steady environment they’re used to.

They’re not safe anymore.

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Aug 24, 2018 12:53:12   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I guess, I haven’t come across to many that feel like you and I do, or pay attention that much, but I do know they are changing their behaviors and attitudes toward things in their daily routines.

I see they sense something isnt’ right ...
something is off or wrong
Something isn’t the safe, steady environment they’re used to.

They’re not safe anymore.


More specifically, it isn't safe for them to go along with the plan of the elites.

Has nothing to do with prophecy or the Bible...it's just a feeling that only God could put in the hearts of people who otherwise don't pay much attention to Him.

Another aspect of "shortened the time"...

War and murder brewing in South Africa. Those people desperately need the time to be shortened.

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