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Aug 21, 2018 10:33:10   #
Airforceone
 
As Trump promotes his so called clean coal energy plan and the count now is up to 264 jobs he has created in the coal industry I did a little reseach on the what’s up with energy in other parts of the world.

Below is a solar farm which could be the largest in the world today but it’s not being constructed in the US because of Trump and his love of coal. But it’s being constructed in Southern Egypt. It’s a $4 billion investment.

China has begun construction of a solar farm that will be even larger than Southern Egypt’s.

Columbia has also begun building a supersized Solar farm. It’s a cheaper way of producing clean energy because the cost of solar panels have has decreased.

Mexico just inaugurated there supersized solar farm and more to come.

It’s amazing what the solar industry is doing for the China solar panel industry because the countries interested in building these supersized solar farms have multi trade agreements with China and other countries where Trump has dropped out and created a trade war.

Sun power and IS first solar have moved there manufactoring plants outside the US due to Trump trade wars. Germany China and Italy now produce most of the solar panels around the world and the US is loosing all this business.

Germany Italy and China now take the lead on producing solar power. Remember Trump with his lies about Germany and purchasing oil from Russian. This president is a joke Germany is number one in advancing solar energy construction.

In Trumps first year the US lost over 10,000 solar jobs in the US but he brags about cresting a couple of hundred jobs. Now with his trade war a loss of an additional 23,000 jobs are expected to be lost. Along with all this garbage created by Trump an additional $2.5 Billion in construction have been either cancelled or put on hold (HOW MANY CONSTRUCTION JOBS LOST)

President Trump has ripped up environmental rules deleted all data on greenhouse gases, imposed tariffs on imported panels, pushed through oil pipelines, and attempting to rescue the coal industry that nobody wants. But this fool has no idea of what the future of energy in this country looks I am convinced Trump is trying to meme the US a banana republic.





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Aug 21, 2018 14:03:50   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Airforceone wrote:
As Trump promotes his so called clean coal energy plan and the count now is up to 264 jobs he has created in the coal industry I did a little reseach on the what’s up with energy in other parts of the world.

Below is a solar farm which could be the largest in the world today but it’s not being constructed in the US because of Trump and his love of coal. But it’s being constructed in Southern Egypt. It’s a $4 billion investment.

China has begun construction of a solar farm that will be even larger than Southern Egypt’s.

Columbia has also begun building a supersized Solar farm. It’s a cheaper way of producing clean energy because the cost of solar panels have has decreased.

Mexico just inaugurated there supersized solar farm and more to come.

It’s amazing what the solar industry is doing for the China solar panel industry because the countries interested in building these supersized solar farms have multi trade agreements with China and other countries where Trump has dropped out and created a trade war.

Sun power and IS first solar have moved there manufactoring plants outside the US due to Trump trade wars. Germany China and Italy now produce most of the solar panels around the world and the US is loosing all this business.

Germany Italy and China now take the lead on producing solar power. Remember Trump with his lies about Germany and purchasing oil from Russian. This president is a joke Germany is number one in advancing solar energy construction.

In Trumps first year the US lost over 10,000 solar jobs in the US but he brags about cresting a couple of hundred jobs. Now with his trade war a loss of an additional 23,000 jobs are expected to be lost. Along with all this garbage created by Trump an additional $2.5 Billion in construction have been either cancelled or put on hold (HOW MANY CONSTRUCTION JOBS LOST)

President Trump has ripped up environmental rules deleted all data on greenhouse gases, imposed tariffs on imported panels, pushed through oil pipelines, and attempting to rescue the coal industry that nobody wants. But this fool has no idea of what the future of energy in this country looks I am convinced Trump is trying to meme the US a banana republic.
As Trump promotes his so called clean coal energy ... (show quote)





Lies, lies, myths and more lies Airforce. Personally I love solar and the freedoms it gives me on my fifth wheel. But even with reduced solar panels, the jobs and money would go to other countries. GE is out of the solar panel business when subsidized (tax payer money) cost to purchase from foreign countries became less than production cost.
Another problem that remains is size VS productivity. It would require enough real-estate the size of Texas plus, plus to power America.

Batteries, batteries are Solara biggest weakness. Half life of deep cycle batteries charging and discharging is 12-18 months under high load. Thus maintenance and replacement cost prohibit efficiency since once battery reaches 80% or 20 % usage controllers shut it down to extend life. This means massive amounts of batteries are required to meet demand. An example I use two Trojan 850 ah lead acid(about a hundred pounds each) and 6 gel 450 ah and another 4 545 ah lead acid, which cost (wholesale) $2700. Every 600-800 cycles depending on battery.

Other cost, inverter at wholesale 15000 watt pure sine $ 1,100, controller $350. Electrical switch panel $650. 4 100 watt solar panels and 3 250 watt solar panels $1,800.

After 36 months the panels slowly begin losing efficiency and eventually will need to be replaced depending on load requirements.

As I said before, I'm pro solar for specific reasons, but unfortunately our technology does not make them pay back.

The pro solar media and solar manufacturers are deceptive in giving the math of solar paying for itself by way of not including battery replacement cost, and or other factors.

Greed is our other problem.
In blue states people wanting wells either because city utilities are not available or wanting to save money and be off the grid, the city or county are putting meters on wells, some have grandfathered existing land owners but once land is sold the new owner will have to be metered. The same is being worked on by some cities for solar power to be metered for usage after what is sold back to electric companies. Currently the resale is only . 8 cents per Kw and as solar expands the resale will be amount will be reduced.

I see other methods of power emerging, that is if the government doesn't shut down the inventors. Several backyard inventors have been working on non fuel generators. Including myself without having sk**led electronics /electrical training.
I have solved a problem of efficiency piggy backing off of an inventors discovery for something that has a completely different application. The ability to produce 595 total Amp output, with the ability to use +/- 425-450 of those amps. My fifth wheel running two AC units, TV, lights, washer/dryer, coffee pot, microwave max demand is +/- 140 amps.
This non fuel generator has easily the ability to fully power a large family home including a heated swimming pool.
There are several working non fuel generators on YouTube but they haven't solved the efficiency problem that I have.
This technology if built by expert electronics / electricians with engineering production would cost approximately $2,200-$2,700 per unit. Using the suppliers I have access to now including a special modification I'm paying just over $3,000 for a part that can be manufactured for about $600., making the completed unit not counting labor around $6,000.
Comparing the cost of Solar to what this could be retailed for, even at 400-500% mark up does have a 3-7 year payback depending on what part of the country the utility company charges per KW.
I doubt though that the government or powerful utility companies will allow this to ever go to market. Just the same as they stopped others that invented ways for cars to get over a hundred miles per gallon 35 ish years ago.

The point I'm trying to get across is even though solar is not large scale cost effective, it is backed by very powerful powers that are vested and its not going away, just as the very powerful vested in oil, which also is not going away and anything that threatens those that are highly vested get stopped. Scientists have learned how to make energy from ions using a special type of steel rod that captures the ions and could power entire cities, but have been silenced.

When the elite are vested, exoect deception to milk the public of their money and solar is the perfect example.

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Aug 22, 2018 06:52:19   #
Big dog
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Lies, lies, myths and more lies Airforce. Personally I love solar and the freedoms it gives me on my fifth wheel. But even with reduced solar panels, the jobs and money would go to other countries. GE is out of the solar panel business when subsidized (tax payer money) cost to purchase from foreign countries became less than production cost.
Another problem that remains is size VS productivity. It would require enough real-estate the size of Texas plus, plus to power America.

Batteries, batteries are Solara biggest weakness. Half life of deep cycle batteries charging and discharging is 12-18 months under high load. Thus maintenance and replacement cost prohibit efficiency since once battery reaches 80% or 20 % usage controllers shut it down to extend life. This means massive amounts of batteries are required to meet demand. An example I use two Trojan 850 ah lead acid(about a hundred pounds each) and 6 gel 450 ah and another 4 545 ah lead acid, which cost (wholesale) $2700. Every 600-800 cycles depending on battery.

Other cost, inverter at wholesale 15000 watt pure sine $ 1,100, controller $350. Electrical switch panel $650. 4 100 watt solar panels and 3 250 watt solar panels $1,800.

After 36 months the panels slowly begin losing efficiency and eventually will need to be replaced depending on load requirements.

As I said before, I'm pro solar for specific reasons, but unfortunately our technology does not make them pay back.

The pro solar media and solar manufacturers are deceptive in giving the math of solar paying for itself by way of not including battery replacement cost, and or other factors.

Greed is our other problem.
In blue states people wanting wells either because city utilities are not available or wanting to save money and be off the grid, the city or county are putting meters on wells, some have grandfathered existing land owners but once land is sold the new owner will have to be metered. The same is being worked on by some cities for solar power to be metered for usage after what is sold back to electric companies. Currently the resale is only . 8 cents per Kw and as solar expands the resale will be amount will be reduced.

I see other methods of power emerging, that is if the government doesn't shut down the inventors. Several backyard inventors have been working on non fuel generators. Including myself without having sk**led electronics /electrical training.
I have solved a problem of efficiency piggy backing off of an inventors discovery for something that has a completely different application. The ability to produce 595 total Amp output, with the ability to use +/- 425-450 of those amps. My fifth wheel running two AC units, TV, lights, washer/dryer, coffee pot, microwave max demand is +/- 140 amps.
This non fuel generator has easily the ability to fully power a large family home including a heated swimming pool.
There are several working non fuel generators on YouTube but they haven't solved the efficiency problem that I have.
This technology if built by expert electronics / electricians with engineering production would cost approximately $2,200-$2,700 per unit. Using the suppliers I have access to now including a special modification I'm paying just over $3,000 for a part that can be manufactured for about $600., making the completed unit not counting labor around $6,000.
Comparing the cost of Solar to what this could be retailed for, even at 400-500% mark up does have a 3-7 year payback depending on what part of the country the utility company charges per KW.
I doubt though that the government or powerful utility companies will allow this to ever go to market. Just the same as they stopped others that invented ways for cars to get over a hundred miles per gallon 35 ish years ago.

The point I'm trying to get across is even though solar is not large scale cost effective, it is backed by very powerful powers that are vested and its not going away, just as the very powerful vested in oil, which also is not going away and anything that threatens those that are highly vested get stopped. Scientists have learned how to make energy from ions using a special type of steel rod that captures the ions and could power entire cities, but have been silenced.

When the elite are vested, exoect deception to milk the public of their money and solar is the perfect example.
Lies, lies, myths and more lies Airforce. Personal... (show quote)


Solar is fine for some applications but it's NOT a fix all answer. Tesla had the answers but WE may never know what they are thanks to our deep state government.

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Aug 24, 2018 04:27:23   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Big dog wrote:
Solar is fine for some applications but it's NOT a fix all answer. Tesla had the answers but WE may never know what they are thanks to our deep state government.




We are breaking the codes of Tesla in some areas, but until a genius comes along like tesla I'm afraid your right.
Many of our greatest inventors were not higher education educated, poor at math but they had imagination and were creative. Thousands of backyard inventors are laboring to invent free energy and some on the very edge of new discoveries. No doubt our government will not allow public knowledge of any genuine breakthrough.

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