Origin of the Steele Dossier
Aug 20, 2018 21:16:10 #
So many people on the OPP argue either for or against the “Russia Dossier.” Mostly, it depends on which side of the political spectrum one claims to be on. Something I’ve noticed is that irrespective of one’s political alliances, very few of us have taken teh time to actually investigate the dossier, including its origin and contents. Most people only recognize that the Russian dossier is either favorable or unfavorable to their side. In other words, they either like it for what they perceive are the dossier’s negative comments towards Trumpet, or, they don’t like it for the same reason.
Additionally, many on the OPP don’t even know how or why the dossier, first, came into being. Many say it was initiated by the Clinton campaign in an effort to get negative information/dirt on Trumpet. Others say it was initiated by a GOPTPer PAC donor who didn’t like the idea of Trumpet running for the presidency. And, so you know, I, too, was skeptical when the dossier was first reported and released. I found it hard to believe that an American p**********l candidate would let himself be c*********d like the dossier inferred Trumpet was. However, since reading the dossier and watching and listening to Trumpet’s actions during the first 18-19 months of his presidency, I’ve become convinced that Trumpet, very easily, could allow himself to have been recorded in compromising situations. The following is taken from an article by John Cassidy, of the New Yorker magazine, and my own research on the subject.
It’s been about 20 months since BuzzFeed’s publication of the controversial “Russia dossier,” the document compiled by the former British spy, Christopher Steele, that claimed the Russian government had been “cultivating, supporting, and assisting” Donald Trump for years, and that the Kremlin was holding incriminating material about Trump, including a sex tape from a Moscow hotel room.
In the past 18-20 months, we’ve learned more about the Steele dossier, including that it was commissioned by the D.C.-based intelligence firm, Fusion GPS, which, eventually, received funding from the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s P**********l campaign. Some of the allegations in the dossier, including the one about the sex tape, haven’t been corroborated, and Trump has described it as a “Crooked Hillary pile of garbage.” (In publishing the dossier, BuzzFeed noted that the allegations it contained were unverified and that it contained errors.)
However, we have also learned that the F.B.I. took Steele’s work seriously enough to interview him before the 2016 e******n. After the e******n, according to the Washington Post, the FBI agreed to pay Steele to do some more research, but that agreement was cancelled after BuzzFeed published the dossier. There have also been unconfirmed reports that the FBI used the dossier to obtain secret warrants to tap the phone of Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign manager. And, last January, James Comey, while still the FBI director, informed President-elect Trump about the dossier and its contents.
In recent weeks, Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee, who are supposed to be investigating Russian interference in the 2016 e******n, have raised more questions about the dossier and the role it played in the FBI’s Russia investigation. Last week, in a letter to the Justice Department, Charles Grassley, the head of the committee, and Lindsey Graham, another Republican member, asked the department to investigate Steele for possibly lying to the FBI, but they didn’t provide any evidence to back up the request. This looked like another GOPTP effort to undermine the credibility of the Russia investigation, and, on Tuesday, Dianne Feinstein (senior Democrat on the Judiciary Committee), responded by releasing a transcript of a lengthy interview that the committee’s lawyers carried out, last August, with Glenn Simpson, the co-founder of Fusion GPS. Although Simpson refused to answer some of the questions put to him, particularly those relating to his clients, his testimony provides new details about the genesis of the Steele dossier and Steele’s contacts with the FBI It also provides a glimpse into an aspect of modern political campaigns that usually remains hidden: paid opposition research.
Simpson, who founded Fusion GPS in 2010, began his testimony by explaining his background as an investigative reporter at the Wall Street Journal and at Roll Call. He described himself as a “document hound” who specializes in searching public records. Fusion GPS doesn’t do much political work, he said, because “most campaigns don’t have the budget for the kind of services we provide.” Normally, his outfit worked for law firms on cases related to “financial crime, money laundering and fraud investigations, tax evasion, that sort of thing.” (That being the case, it would make perfect sense that Mueller would want to interview Simpson regarding any possible “... cases related to ‘financial crime, money laundering and fraud investigations, tax evasion, that sort of thing.’”
But, in September or October of 2015 (Simpson was vague about the exact date) a client hired Fusion GPS to investigate Donald Trump. (The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative Web site acknowledged it had received funding from GOPTP donor and hedge-fund billionaire, Paul Singer, to hire Fusion GPS to investigate candidates during the Republican P**********l primaries.) Simpson said the mandate was to carry out an “open-ended” examination of Trump’s business record, including his bankruptcies, and, he added, “it evolved somewhat quickly into issues of his relationship to organized-crime figures.”
One of the early subjects of the inquiry, Simpson said, was Felix Sater, a longtime business associate of Trump’s who reportedly was linked to the Russian mafia, and who played a role in the development of the Trump SoHo building. Another subject of interest was the financing of Trump’s various real-estate projects. “We saw indications that some of the money came from Kazakhstan, among other places, and that some of it you just couldn’t account for,” Simpson said. But, for the first six months of the work, he added, the probe wasn’t focussed only on Russia.
Things changed in the spring of 2016, after Fusion GPS got a new client, which we now know to have been the Clinton campaign and the DNC (This fact emerged in October, well after Simpson’s testimony, when lawyers from the Judiciary Committee demanded Fusion GPS’s bank records.) In “May or June of 2016,” Simpson recalled, he engaged Christopher Steele, an old associate of his, who was the former head of the Russia desk at the British foreign-intelligence agency, MI6. He and Steele, who was by then running his own intelligence consultancy in the UK, shared an interest in the Russian kleptocracy and in organized-crime issues, Simpson said.
Asked about the methods Steele used to compile his reports, Simpson said that, rather than visiting Moscow himself, Steele relied on “a network of people, sources” that he had in Russia, which gathered information for him. “What people call the dossier is not really a dossier,” Simpson said. “It’s a collection of field memoranda, of field interviews, a collection that accumulates over a period of months . . . . He’d reach a point in the reporting where he had enough to send a new memo; so he’d send one.” In response to a question about whether Steele paid any of his sources, Simpson said that he hadn’t asked him that question.
In any case, when Steele sent in his first memorandum, which was thirty-five pages long and dated June 20, 2016, it contained some explosive allegations, including claims that the Russian regime had been carefully cultivating Trump, and that the FSB, the Kremlin’s domestic-intelligence agency, had “c*********d trump through his activities in Moscow sufficiently to be able to blackmail him.” The memorandum also quoted Steele’s “Source A . . . a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure,” as saying, “the Kremlin had been feeding trump and his team valuable information on his opponents, including Democratic p**********l candidate Hillary clinton, for years.”
It was about this time, Simpson said, that Steele first contacted the FBI. In Simpson’s telling, taking this step was Steele’s idea. Shortly after filing his first memo, Simpson recounted, “Chris said he was very concerned about whether this represented a national-security threat and said he wanted to—he said he thought we were obligated to tell someone in government, in our government, about this information. He thought from his perspective there was an issue—a security issue about whether a P**********l candidate was being blackmailed.” Simpson said that he didn’t agree or disagree with Steele’s suggestion, but said he’d think about it. “Then he raised it again with me. I don’t remember the exact sequence of these events, but my recollection is that I questioned how we would do that because I don’t know anyone there that I could report something like this to and be believed, and I didn’t really think it was necessarily appropriate for me to do that. In any event, he said, ‘Don’t worry about that, I know the perfect person, I have a contact there, they’ll listen to me, they know who I am, I’ll take care of it.’ I said Okay.”
It was in early July, 2016, that Steele spoke with his FBI contact and relayed the Russia allegations, Simpson said. After that, Steele continued his work for Fusion GPS, which led to more memos, including one that addressed the activities of Carter Page, a foreign-policy adviser to the Trump campaign. To Simpson’s chagrin, however, neither Steele nor Fusion GPS heard anything more from the FBI for months. During that time, Simpson pointed out, the hacking of the DNC was revealed, the Republican Party’s platform was changed to be friendlier to Russia on the issue of Ukraine, and Trump continued to speak positively about Vladimir Putin. “So I vaguely recall that these external events prompted us to say, I wonder what the FBI did, whoops, haven’t heard from them. . . . That was basically the state of things through September,” Simpson said.
Finally, Steele informed Simpson that the FBI had contacted him again. At that stage, Simpson told the questioners, “I was very concerned because Chris had delivered a lot of information and by this time we had, you know, stood up a good bit of it. Various things he had written about in his memos corresponded quite closely with other events, and I began, you know, to view his reporting in this case as, you know, really serious and really credible.” Simpson said that Steele told him he would have to go to Rome to meet with someone from the FBI. “I said O.K. He went to Rome. Then afterwards he came back and said, you know, ‘I gave them a full briefing.’ ”
Simpson also said Steele told him that the FBI already had another source on Russia, one inside the Trump campaign. This is important because some of Trump’s defenders have been suggesting that without the dossier there wouldn't have been any Russia investigation. “My understanding was that they believed Chris at this point—that they believed Chris’s information might be credible because they had other intelligence that indicated the same thing, and one of those pieces of intelligence was a human source from inside the Trump organization,” Simpson said. The New York Times reported on Tuesday evening that Steele, “after being questioned by the FBI, came to believe that the bureau’s human source was George Papadopoulos, a former Trump campaign foreign adviser. In fact, the source was an Australian diplomat who had spent a night drinking in London with Mr. Papadopoulos in the spring, and then shared with American officials what he had learned from the Trump aide.” Two weeks ago, the Times reported that it was the tip-off from the Australian diplomat that prompted the FBI to open its investigation, in June, 2016.
The transcript also provides new details of the dealings that Fusion GPS and Steele had with journalists before the e******n. During the summer of 2016, Simpson said, he spoke with reporters about “alleged connections between the Trump campaign and the Russians,” adding: “Some of what we discussed was informed by Chris’s reporting.” A lawyer for the Republican members of the committee then presented Simpson with an affidavit from Steele’s lawyers, which had been presented in a lawsuit filed against Steele and his firm, and which said that, at the end of September, Steele, “at Fusion’s instruction,” had briefed journalists “from the New York Times, the Washington Post, Yahoo News, The New Yorker, and CNN.”
The lawyer went on to quote the affidavit saying that Steele “subsequently participated in further meetings, at Fusion’s instruction, with Fusion and the New York Times, the Washington Post, and Yahoo News, which took place in mid-October, 2016. In each of those cases the briefing was conducted verbally in person. In addition, and again at Fusion’s instruction, in late October, 2016, (Steele) briefed the journalist from Mother Jones by Skype.”
When Simpson was asked if the affidavit from Steele’s lawyer presented a “full and accurate account of all the news organizations with which Fusion and Mr. Steele shared information from the memoranda,” he replied, “I’d say that’s largely right,” but added that he thought the broadcast network was ABC News rather than CNN. The lawyer also asked Simpson if Fusion GPS had disclosed any hard copies of Steele’s memoranda to journalists. At this point, Simpson’s lawyer interrupted and said he wasn’t going to answer that question.
From Simpson’s perspective, it seems fair to assume, these behind-the-scenes media briefings didn’t have their desired effect. The Mother Jones reporter David Corn was the only journalist to publish a big story based on Steele’s research before the e******n, and most of the mainstream media didn’t pick it up. On October 31st, eight days before the polls opened, the Times published a story saying that the FBI had been investigating Trump’s Russia connections for much of the summer but so far hadn’t found “any conclusive or direct link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government.” Simpson told his interlocutors that the story was “a real Halloween special.” In response to the Times report, which contradicted the claims in his memoranda, Steele cut off contact with the FBI for a while, Simpson told the Judiciary Committee. “Chris was confused and somewhat disturbed and didn’t think he understood the landscape,” Simpson said. “And I think both of us felt like things were happening that we didn’t understand and that we must not know everything about, and therefore, you know, in a situation like that, the smart thing to do is stand down.”
by:
John Cassidy
staff writer
The New Yorker since 1995
Additionally, many on the OPP don’t even know how or why the dossier, first, came into being. Many say it was initiated by the Clinton campaign in an effort to get negative information/dirt on Trumpet. Others say it was initiated by a GOPTPer PAC donor who didn’t like the idea of Trumpet running for the presidency. And, so you know, I, too, was skeptical when the dossier was first reported and released. I found it hard to believe that an American p**********l candidate would let himself be c*********d like the dossier inferred Trumpet was. However, since reading the dossier and watching and listening to Trumpet’s actions during the first 18-19 months of his presidency, I’ve become convinced that Trumpet, very easily, could allow himself to have been recorded in compromising situations. The following is taken from an article by John Cassidy, of the New Yorker magazine, and my own research on the subject.
It’s been about 20 months since BuzzFeed’s publication of the controversial “Russia dossier,” the document compiled by the former British spy, Christopher Steele, that claimed the Russian government had been “cultivating, supporting, and assisting” Donald Trump for years, and that the Kremlin was holding incriminating material about Trump, including a sex tape from a Moscow hotel room.
In the past 18-20 months, we’ve learned more about the Steele dossier, including that it was commissioned by the D.C.-based intelligence firm, Fusion GPS, which, eventually, received funding from the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s P**********l campaign. Some of the allegations in the dossier, including the one about the sex tape, haven’t been corroborated, and Trump has described it as a “Crooked Hillary pile of garbage.” (In publishing the dossier, BuzzFeed noted that the allegations it contained were unverified and that it contained errors.)
However, we have also learned that the F.B.I. took Steele’s work seriously enough to interview him before the 2016 e******n. After the e******n, according to the Washington Post, the FBI agreed to pay Steele to do some more research, but that agreement was cancelled after BuzzFeed published the dossier. There have also been unconfirmed reports that the FBI used the dossier to obtain secret warrants to tap the phone of Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign manager. And, last January, James Comey, while still the FBI director, informed President-elect Trump about the dossier and its contents.
In recent weeks, Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee, who are supposed to be investigating Russian interference in the 2016 e******n, have raised more questions about the dossier and the role it played in the FBI’s Russia investigation. Last week, in a letter to the Justice Department, Charles Grassley, the head of the committee, and Lindsey Graham, another Republican member, asked the department to investigate Steele for possibly lying to the FBI, but they didn’t provide any evidence to back up the request. This looked like another GOPTP effort to undermine the credibility of the Russia investigation, and, on Tuesday, Dianne Feinstein (senior Democrat on the Judiciary Committee), responded by releasing a transcript of a lengthy interview that the committee’s lawyers carried out, last August, with Glenn Simpson, the co-founder of Fusion GPS. Although Simpson refused to answer some of the questions put to him, particularly those relating to his clients, his testimony provides new details about the genesis of the Steele dossier and Steele’s contacts with the FBI It also provides a glimpse into an aspect of modern political campaigns that usually remains hidden: paid opposition research.
Simpson, who founded Fusion GPS in 2010, began his testimony by explaining his background as an investigative reporter at the Wall Street Journal and at Roll Call. He described himself as a “document hound” who specializes in searching public records. Fusion GPS doesn’t do much political work, he said, because “most campaigns don’t have the budget for the kind of services we provide.” Normally, his outfit worked for law firms on cases related to “financial crime, money laundering and fraud investigations, tax evasion, that sort of thing.” (That being the case, it would make perfect sense that Mueller would want to interview Simpson regarding any possible “... cases related to ‘financial crime, money laundering and fraud investigations, tax evasion, that sort of thing.’”
But, in September or October of 2015 (Simpson was vague about the exact date) a client hired Fusion GPS to investigate Donald Trump. (The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative Web site acknowledged it had received funding from GOPTP donor and hedge-fund billionaire, Paul Singer, to hire Fusion GPS to investigate candidates during the Republican P**********l primaries.) Simpson said the mandate was to carry out an “open-ended” examination of Trump’s business record, including his bankruptcies, and, he added, “it evolved somewhat quickly into issues of his relationship to organized-crime figures.”
One of the early subjects of the inquiry, Simpson said, was Felix Sater, a longtime business associate of Trump’s who reportedly was linked to the Russian mafia, and who played a role in the development of the Trump SoHo building. Another subject of interest was the financing of Trump’s various real-estate projects. “We saw indications that some of the money came from Kazakhstan, among other places, and that some of it you just couldn’t account for,” Simpson said. But, for the first six months of the work, he added, the probe wasn’t focussed only on Russia.
Things changed in the spring of 2016, after Fusion GPS got a new client, which we now know to have been the Clinton campaign and the DNC (This fact emerged in October, well after Simpson’s testimony, when lawyers from the Judiciary Committee demanded Fusion GPS’s bank records.) In “May or June of 2016,” Simpson recalled, he engaged Christopher Steele, an old associate of his, who was the former head of the Russia desk at the British foreign-intelligence agency, MI6. He and Steele, who was by then running his own intelligence consultancy in the UK, shared an interest in the Russian kleptocracy and in organized-crime issues, Simpson said.
Asked about the methods Steele used to compile his reports, Simpson said that, rather than visiting Moscow himself, Steele relied on “a network of people, sources” that he had in Russia, which gathered information for him. “What people call the dossier is not really a dossier,” Simpson said. “It’s a collection of field memoranda, of field interviews, a collection that accumulates over a period of months . . . . He’d reach a point in the reporting where he had enough to send a new memo; so he’d send one.” In response to a question about whether Steele paid any of his sources, Simpson said that he hadn’t asked him that question.
In any case, when Steele sent in his first memorandum, which was thirty-five pages long and dated June 20, 2016, it contained some explosive allegations, including claims that the Russian regime had been carefully cultivating Trump, and that the FSB, the Kremlin’s domestic-intelligence agency, had “c*********d trump through his activities in Moscow sufficiently to be able to blackmail him.” The memorandum also quoted Steele’s “Source A . . . a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure,” as saying, “the Kremlin had been feeding trump and his team valuable information on his opponents, including Democratic p**********l candidate Hillary clinton, for years.”
It was about this time, Simpson said, that Steele first contacted the FBI. In Simpson’s telling, taking this step was Steele’s idea. Shortly after filing his first memo, Simpson recounted, “Chris said he was very concerned about whether this represented a national-security threat and said he wanted to—he said he thought we were obligated to tell someone in government, in our government, about this information. He thought from his perspective there was an issue—a security issue about whether a P**********l candidate was being blackmailed.” Simpson said that he didn’t agree or disagree with Steele’s suggestion, but said he’d think about it. “Then he raised it again with me. I don’t remember the exact sequence of these events, but my recollection is that I questioned how we would do that because I don’t know anyone there that I could report something like this to and be believed, and I didn’t really think it was necessarily appropriate for me to do that. In any event, he said, ‘Don’t worry about that, I know the perfect person, I have a contact there, they’ll listen to me, they know who I am, I’ll take care of it.’ I said Okay.”
It was in early July, 2016, that Steele spoke with his FBI contact and relayed the Russia allegations, Simpson said. After that, Steele continued his work for Fusion GPS, which led to more memos, including one that addressed the activities of Carter Page, a foreign-policy adviser to the Trump campaign. To Simpson’s chagrin, however, neither Steele nor Fusion GPS heard anything more from the FBI for months. During that time, Simpson pointed out, the hacking of the DNC was revealed, the Republican Party’s platform was changed to be friendlier to Russia on the issue of Ukraine, and Trump continued to speak positively about Vladimir Putin. “So I vaguely recall that these external events prompted us to say, I wonder what the FBI did, whoops, haven’t heard from them. . . . That was basically the state of things through September,” Simpson said.
Finally, Steele informed Simpson that the FBI had contacted him again. At that stage, Simpson told the questioners, “I was very concerned because Chris had delivered a lot of information and by this time we had, you know, stood up a good bit of it. Various things he had written about in his memos corresponded quite closely with other events, and I began, you know, to view his reporting in this case as, you know, really serious and really credible.” Simpson said that Steele told him he would have to go to Rome to meet with someone from the FBI. “I said O.K. He went to Rome. Then afterwards he came back and said, you know, ‘I gave them a full briefing.’ ”
Simpson also said Steele told him that the FBI already had another source on Russia, one inside the Trump campaign. This is important because some of Trump’s defenders have been suggesting that without the dossier there wouldn't have been any Russia investigation. “My understanding was that they believed Chris at this point—that they believed Chris’s information might be credible because they had other intelligence that indicated the same thing, and one of those pieces of intelligence was a human source from inside the Trump organization,” Simpson said. The New York Times reported on Tuesday evening that Steele, “after being questioned by the FBI, came to believe that the bureau’s human source was George Papadopoulos, a former Trump campaign foreign adviser. In fact, the source was an Australian diplomat who had spent a night drinking in London with Mr. Papadopoulos in the spring, and then shared with American officials what he had learned from the Trump aide.” Two weeks ago, the Times reported that it was the tip-off from the Australian diplomat that prompted the FBI to open its investigation, in June, 2016.
The transcript also provides new details of the dealings that Fusion GPS and Steele had with journalists before the e******n. During the summer of 2016, Simpson said, he spoke with reporters about “alleged connections between the Trump campaign and the Russians,” adding: “Some of what we discussed was informed by Chris’s reporting.” A lawyer for the Republican members of the committee then presented Simpson with an affidavit from Steele’s lawyers, which had been presented in a lawsuit filed against Steele and his firm, and which said that, at the end of September, Steele, “at Fusion’s instruction,” had briefed journalists “from the New York Times, the Washington Post, Yahoo News, The New Yorker, and CNN.”
The lawyer went on to quote the affidavit saying that Steele “subsequently participated in further meetings, at Fusion’s instruction, with Fusion and the New York Times, the Washington Post, and Yahoo News, which took place in mid-October, 2016. In each of those cases the briefing was conducted verbally in person. In addition, and again at Fusion’s instruction, in late October, 2016, (Steele) briefed the journalist from Mother Jones by Skype.”
When Simpson was asked if the affidavit from Steele’s lawyer presented a “full and accurate account of all the news organizations with which Fusion and Mr. Steele shared information from the memoranda,” he replied, “I’d say that’s largely right,” but added that he thought the broadcast network was ABC News rather than CNN. The lawyer also asked Simpson if Fusion GPS had disclosed any hard copies of Steele’s memoranda to journalists. At this point, Simpson’s lawyer interrupted and said he wasn’t going to answer that question.
From Simpson’s perspective, it seems fair to assume, these behind-the-scenes media briefings didn’t have their desired effect. The Mother Jones reporter David Corn was the only journalist to publish a big story based on Steele’s research before the e******n, and most of the mainstream media didn’t pick it up. On October 31st, eight days before the polls opened, the Times published a story saying that the FBI had been investigating Trump’s Russia connections for much of the summer but so far hadn’t found “any conclusive or direct link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government.” Simpson told his interlocutors that the story was “a real Halloween special.” In response to the Times report, which contradicted the claims in his memoranda, Steele cut off contact with the FBI for a while, Simpson told the Judiciary Committee. “Chris was confused and somewhat disturbed and didn’t think he understood the landscape,” Simpson said. “And I think both of us felt like things were happening that we didn’t understand and that we must not know everything about, and therefore, you know, in a situation like that, the smart thing to do is stand down.”
by:
John Cassidy
staff writer
The New Yorker since 1995
Aug 20, 2018 21:28:04 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
It is always interesting that reporters omit the name Dan Jones former staffer of Diane Feinstein, who was equipped with 50 millions dollars from donors from N.Y and Calif to create the dossier..Dishonesty is also not giving the "whole t***h"..
Aug 20, 2018 22:19:46 #
byronglimish wrote:
It is always interesting that reporters omit the name Dan Jones former staffer of Diane Feinstein, who was equipped with 50 millions dollars from donors from N.Y and Calif to create the dossier..Dishonesty is also not giving the "whole t***h"..
Let's boil this kettle of frogs and eyes of newt down to its essence. A witch hunt.
And, Lord Byron, tales spun with elaborate details and applifying coincidences are provided to hide the t***h.
If I ask my wife where she's been and she says "store", I believe her. But if I ask my wife where she's been and she gives me a detailed lengthy itinerary, I don't believe her.
So thus. Obama and his intelligence bureaus tried to stop Trump from getting elected and they are still trying to remove Trump from office.
Treason and s******n. All guilty.
Aug 20, 2018 22:35:13 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Let's boil this kettle of frogs and eyes of newt d... (show quote)
Sir Mike, nice to hear from your perspective.
Very well stated t***h..They (not your wife) are like meth heads giving too much jabber to avoid the t***h.
A friend of mine who worked for the DEA, told me long ago, "that t***h is like a mathematical equation"..he always said " let's put the pencil too it, and see if it adds up".
Aug 20, 2018 23:12:39 #
This story will be spun but in the end there will no collision on the Trump campaign and that's what counts.
byronglimish wrote:
Sir Mike, nice to hear from your perspective.
Very well stated t***h..They (not your wife) are like meth heads giving too much jabber to avoid the t***h.
A friend of mine who worked for the DEA, told me long ago, "that t***h is like a mathematical equation"..he always said " let's put the pencil too it, and see if it adds up".
Very well stated t***h..They (not your wife) are like meth heads giving too much jabber to avoid the t***h.
A friend of mine who worked for the DEA, told me long ago, "that t***h is like a mathematical equation"..he always said " let's put the pencil too it, and see if it adds up".
Aug 20, 2018 23:16:40 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
bmac32 wrote:
This story will be spun but in the end there will no collision on the Trump campaign and that's what counts.
Agreed.
Aug 21, 2018 08:32:18 #
byronglimish wrote:
Sir Mike, nice to hear from your perspective.
Very well stated t***h..They (not your wife) are like meth heads giving too much jabber to avoid the t***h.
A friend of mine who worked for the DEA, told me long ago, "that t***h is like a mathematical equation"..he always said " let's put the pencil too it, and see if it adds up".
Very well stated t***h..They (not your wife) are like meth heads giving too much jabber to avoid the t***h.
A friend of mine who worked for the DEA, told me long ago, "that t***h is like a mathematical equation"..he always said " let's put the pencil too it, and see if it adds up".
A smug effort by the obama Clinton cabal to humiliate Trump at first, then to stop him, and now, desperate attempts to remove Trump from office. All treason and s******n.
Aug 21, 2018 09:13:02 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
Mikeyavelli wrote:
A smug effort by the obama Clinton cabal to humiliate Trump at first, then to stop him, and now, desperate attempts to remove Trump from office. All treason and s******n.
Absolutely and try to effectively sour the midterms.
I believe these people undermining our Republic are no good to anyone while breathing.
Aug 21, 2018 09:32:06 #
byronglimish wrote:
It is always interesting that reporters omit the name Dan Jones former staffer of Diane Feinstein, who was equipped with 50 millions dollars from donors from N.Y and Calif to create the dossier..Dishonesty is also not giving the "whole t***h"..
The one key statement that discounts the report.
Simpson: "I don’t know anyone there that I could report something like this to and be believed..."
Aug 21, 2018 09:39:55 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
Gatsby wrote:
The one key statement that discounts the report.
Simpson: "I don’t know anyone there that I could report something like this to and be believed..."
Simpson: "I don’t know anyone there that I could report something like this to and be believed..."
Exactly!
Aug 21, 2018 09:49:17 #
Aug 21, 2018 10:17:23 #
Remove, why at this late date?
Lonewolf wrote:
Trump will remove himself by a tweet
Aug 21, 2018 10:23:34 #
To save himself the humiliation of impeachment and prison
bmac32 wrote:
Remove, why at this late date?
Aug 21, 2018 11:14:04 #
Aug 21, 2018 11:51:11 #
Lonewolf wrote:
Keep on supporting the t*****r caption bone spurs
Trump's only a t*****r in the eyes of the Obamites. Loving America and doing what is best for America is treason in their eyes. Trump should be taking America down, like obama did, and leveling the living standards of the world. Everyone wearing the same uniform, sleeping on the standard cot in the standard housing facility, and eating from the same trough, and praying when the Muslims call out for prayer 5 times a day.
Trump is against that utopian system of fairness.
T*****r to the Dreams of Obama.
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