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"None of the dossier, to Fox News’s knowledge, has been disproven," Smith added.
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Aug 17, 2018 21:01:35   #
rumitoid
 
Multiple former intelligence officials have said the dossier did not instigate the FBI’s investigation into Russia's e******n i**********e or provide a basis for the intelligence community assessment.

Trump's associates have sought to write off the investigation as a "h**x" and a "witch hunt" since its beginning. The probe so far has resulted in indictments or guilty pleas for 32 people and three Russian companies.

"For context, the research in the dossier includes 17 memos produced by the former spy Christopher Steele," Smith explained. "They allege misconduct and a conspiracy between members of the Trump campaign and the Russian government during the 2016 e******n, places and timelines matching his reports, or later confirmed as true."

"Some assertions in the dossier have been confirmed," he continued. "Other parts are unconfirmed."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/402062-fox-news-host-hits-giuliani-dossier-isnt-why-mueller-probe-was

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Aug 17, 2018 22:21:47   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
Multiple former intelligence officials have said the dossier did not instigate the FBI’s investigation into Russia's e******n i**********e or provide a basis for the intelligence community assessment.

Trump's associates have sought to write off the investigation as a "h**x" and a "witch hunt" since its beginning. The probe so far has resulted in indictments or guilty pleas for 32 people and three Russian companies.

"For context, the research in the dossier includes 17 memos produced by the former spy Christopher Steele," Smith explained. "They allege misconduct and a conspiracy between members of the Trump campaign and the Russian government during the 2016 e******n, places and timelines matching his reports, or later confirmed as true."

"Some assertions in the dossier have been confirmed," he continued. "Other parts are unconfirmed."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/402062-fox-news-host-hits-giuliani-dossier-isnt-why-mueller-probe-was
Multiple former intelligence officials have said t... (show quote)



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Aug 17, 2018 22:29:17   #
rumitoid
 
BigMike wrote:


And....

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Aug 17, 2018 23:04:51   #
Ricktloml
 
BigMike wrote:


ALL of the confirmed parts of the dossier are a matter of public record. Carter Page DID travel to Russia, he DID meet with Russian businessmen, and gave speeches, also NONE of these things were illegal. Carter Page was a COOPERATING witness with the FBI who HELPED identify suspicious contacts. This is the worst corruption and abuse of power in American history. What Obama, his operatives and appointees in his weaponized intelligence agencies, Hillary, the Democrat Party and their accomplices and collaborators in the abusively biased, agenda driven media have done makes Nixon and Watergate look like a parking ticket. And if they had been able to c***t Hillary into the White House, the American people would NEVER have found out about this treachery. It is a travesty that this os allowed to continue, and that these political thugs aren't being prosecuted.

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Aug 17, 2018 23:11:54   #
rumitoid
 
Ricktloml wrote:
ALL of the confirmed parts of the dossier are a matter of public record. Carter Page DID travel to Russia, he DID meet with Russian businessmen, and gave speeches, also NONE of these things were illegal. Carter Page was a COOPERATING witness with the FBI who HELPED identify suspicious contacts. This is the worst corruption and abuse of power in American history. What Obama, his operatives and appointees in his weaponized intelligence agencies, Hillary, the Democrat Party and their accomplices and collaborators in the abusively biased, agenda driven media have done makes Nixon and Watergate look like a parking ticket. And if they had been able to c***t Hillary into the White House, the American people would NEVER have found out about this treachery. It is a travesty that this os allowed to continue, and that these political thugs aren't being prosecuted.
ALL of the confirmed parts of the dossier are a ma... (show quote)


Please make the connection with evidence?

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Aug 18, 2018 00:14:20   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Multiple former intelligence officials have said the dossier did not instigate the FBI’s investigation into Russia's e******n i**********e or provide a basis for the intelligence community assessment.

Trump's associates have sought to write off the investigation as a "h**x" and a "witch hunt" since its beginning. The probe so far has resulted in indictments or guilty pleas for 32 people and three Russian companies.

"For context, the research in the dossier includes 17 memos produced by the former spy Christopher Steele," Smith explained. "They allege misconduct and a conspiracy between members of the Trump campaign and the Russian government during the 2016 e******n, places and timelines matching his reports, or later confirmed as true."

"Some assertions in the dossier have been confirmed," he continued. "Other parts are unconfirmed."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/402062-fox-news-host-hits-giuliani-dossier-isnt-why-mueller-probe-was
Multiple former intelligence officials have said t... (show quote)


And what part of all the accusations of Hillary incompetence, collusion with Russians to hide her part, the FBI/CIA'S part and even the participation of Obama in their use of their powers to stop Trump's e******n have been disproven??

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Aug 18, 2018 01:11:56   #
PeterS
 
Ricktloml wrote:
ALL of the confirmed parts of the dossier are a matter of public record. Carter Page DID travel to Russia, he DID meet with Russian businessmen, and gave speeches, also NONE of these things were illegal. Carter Page was a COOPERATING witness with the FBI who HELPED identify suspicious contacts. This is the worst corruption and abuse of power in American history. What Obama, his operatives and appointees in his weaponized intelligence agencies, Hillary, the Democrat Party and their accomplices and collaborators in the abusively biased, agenda driven media have done makes Nixon and Watergate look like a parking ticket. And if they had been able to c***t Hillary into the White House, the American people would NEVER have found out about this treachery. It is a travesty that this os allowed to continue, and that these political thugs aren't being prosecuted.
ALL of the confirmed parts of the dossier are a ma... (show quote)

And what Treachery are you talking about? The Dossier on Trump was started by you conservatives and only dropped when T***p w*n the nomination. It was only picked up by Hillary afterwards and there is no telling what was added or whether it was near complete. And what corruption and abuse of power are you talking about? The Dossier is true so why are you guys sniveling over it's compilation. You guys don't care so what's the problem? As long as you guys keep the majority Trump is safe because even if he openly colluded with Putin the only thing you cons care about is that you maintain power. So chill out. Your pumpkinfuhrer is safe unless you lose one or both of the houses. So v**e and stop worrying about your fearless leader, okay!

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Aug 18, 2018 01:17:34   #
PeterS
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
And what part of all the accusations of Hillary incompetence, collusion with Russians to hide her part, the FBI/CIA'S part and even the participation of Obama in their use of their powers to stop Trump's e******n have been disproven??

And what part is that? Putin said he wanted Trump elected so it seems odd that he would collude with Hillary and if he did why didn't he try to attack the RNC or let go of any dirt on Trump? And what exactly are you babbling about with respect to the FBI/CIA and Obama? You are driving all over the road and sound like Ranger when he was trying to defend his position on creationism. In other words you aren't making any sense at all...

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Aug 18, 2018 02:48:20   #
JW
 
PeterS wrote:
And what Treachery are you talking about? The Dossier on Trump was started by you conservatives and only dropped when T***p w*n the nomination. It was only picked up by Hillary afterwards and there is no telling what was added or whether it was near complete. And what corruption and abuse of power are you talking about? The Dossier is true so why are you guys sniveling over it's compilation. You guys don't care so what's the problem? As long as you guys keep the majority Trump is safe because even if he openly colluded with Putin the only thing you cons care about is that you maintain power. So chill out. Your pumpkinfuhrer is safe unless you lose one or both of the houses. So v**e and stop worrying about your fearless leader, okay!
And what Treachery are you talking about? The Doss... (show quote)


The dossier had nothing to do with Conservatives or Republicans... NOTHING!!!

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-dossier-timeline-whats-known

It is true that a Republican donor, opposed to Trump, began background research on Trump through Fusion GPS but that was long before the dossier came into being.

Once Trump wrapped up the nomination, Hillary and the DNC hired the same company to research Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Steele and Steele created the dossier.

I'm sure that every candidate had his or her own research done on the opposition. That is normal. What is not normal is hiring a foreign spy who openly h**ed Trump and then inventing a fiction and using it to create a dossier. Even the FBI fired Steele for his unreliable behavior. Still, they used the dossier to acquire the FISA warrants.

Using Shep Smith as an authority on anything political is self defeating. He h**es Trump as much as Hillary does.

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Aug 18, 2018 03:21:07   #
PeterS
 
JW wrote:
The dossier had nothing to do with Conservatives or Republicans... NOTHING!!!

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-dossier-timeline-whats-known

It is true that a Republican donor, opposed to Trump, began background research on Trump through Fusion GPS but that was long before the dossier came into being.

Once Trump wrapped up the nomination, Hillary and the DNC hired the same company to research Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Steele and Steele created the dossier.

I'm sure that every candidate had his or her own research done on the opposition. That is normal. What is not normal is hiring a foreign spy who openly h**ed Trump and then inventing a fiction and using it to create a dossier. Even the FBI fired Steele for his unreliable behavior. Still, they used the dossier to acquire the FISA warrants.

Using Shep Smith as an authority on anything political is self defeating. He h**es Trump as much as Hillary does.
The dossier had nothing to do with Conservatives o... (show quote)


In October 2015, before the official start of the 2016 Republican primary campaign, The Washington Free Beacon, an American conservative political journalism website primarily funded by Republican donor Paul Singer, hired the American research firm Fusion GPS to conduct general opposition research on Trump and other Republican p**********l candidates.[1] The Free Beacon and Singer were "part of the conservative never-Trump movement".[25] For months, Fusion GPS gathered information about Trump, focusing on his business and entertainment activities. When Trump became the presumptive nominee on May 3, 2016,[26] The Free Beacon stopped funding research on him.[2][27][28]

Although the source of the Steele dossier's funding had already been reported correctly over a year before,[2][27][28] a February 2, 2018 story by the Associated Press (AP) contributed to confusion about its funding by stating that the dossier "was initially funded" by the Washington Free Beacon, so the AP posted a correction the next day: "Though the former spy, Christopher Steele, was hired by a firm that was initially funded by the Washington Free Beacon, he did not begin work on the project until after Democratic groups had begun funding it."[29] At no point in time did the Free Beacon have any connection with the production of the Steele dossier, and the Free Beacon stated that "none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier."

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The second phase of opposition research was funded by the DNC and the Clinton campaign, working through their attorney of record, Marc Elias of Perkins Coie. In April 2016, Elias hired Fusion GPS to perform opposition research on Trump.[10]

As part of their investigation, Fusion GPS hired Orbis Business Intelligence, a private British intelligence firm, to look into connections between Trump and Russia. Orbis co-founder Christopher Steele, a retired British MI6 officer with expertise in Russian matters,[2] was hired as a subcontractor to do the job. In total, Perkins Coie paid Fusion GPS $1.02 million in fees and expenses, $168,000 of which was paid to Orbis by Fusion GPS and used by them to produce the dossier.


The dossier is simply the compilation of the research--research that was largely conducted under conservative stewardship. So we have 8 months of conservative ownership and 4 months of liberal ownership but you think this is mostly an effort made by liberals? What happened to all that individual responsibility you cons claim to be famous for? I guess it easy to be responsible when you blame everything on someone else isn't it...

And Smiths love or hatred of someone has nothing to do with his ability to be objective. That simply means he's not a true conservative and nothing more...

And by the way, your article simply verified what I said so what was the point in posting it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier#Research_funded_by_conservative_website

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Aug 18, 2018 03:52:35   #
JW
 
PeterS wrote:
In October 2015, before the official start of the 2016 Republican primary campaign, The Washington Free Beacon, an American conservative political journalism website primarily funded by Republican donor Paul Singer, hired the American research firm Fusion GPS to conduct general opposition research on Trump and other Republican p**********l candidates.[1] The Free Beacon and Singer were "part of the conservative never-Trump movement".[25] For months, Fusion GPS gathered information about Trump, focusing on his business and entertainment activities. When Trump became the presumptive nominee on May 3, 2016,[26] The Free Beacon stopped funding research on him.[2][27][28]

Although the source of the Steele dossier's funding had already been reported correctly over a year before,[2][27][28] a February 2, 2018 story by the Associated Press (AP) contributed to confusion about its funding by stating that the dossier "was initially funded" by the Washington Free Beacon, so the AP posted a correction the next day: "Though the former spy, Christopher Steele, was hired by a firm that was initially funded by the Washington Free Beacon, he did not begin work on the project until after Democratic groups had begun funding it."[29] At no point in time did the Free Beacon have any connection with the production of the Steele dossier, and the Free Beacon stated that "none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier."

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The second phase of opposition research was funded by the DNC and the Clinton campaign, working through their attorney of record, Marc Elias of Perkins Coie. In April 2016, Elias hired Fusion GPS to perform opposition research on Trump.[10]

As part of their investigation, Fusion GPS hired Orbis Business Intelligence, a private British intelligence firm, to look into connections between Trump and Russia. Orbis co-founder Christopher Steele, a retired British MI6 officer with expertise in Russian matters,[2] was hired as a subcontractor to do the job. In total, Perkins Coie paid Fusion GPS $1.02 million in fees and expenses, $168,000 of which was paid to Orbis by Fusion GPS and used by them to produce the dossier.


The dossier is simply the compilation of the research--research that was largely conducted under conservative stewardship. So we have 8 months of conservative ownership and 4 months of liberal ownership but you think this is mostly an effort made by liberals? What happened to all that individual responsibility you cons claim to be famous for? I guess it easy to be responsible when you blame everything on someone else isn't it...

And Smiths love or hatred of someone has nothing to do with his ability to be objective. That simply means he's not a true conservative and nothing more...

And by the way, your article simply verified what I said so what was the point in posting it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier#Research_funded_by_conservative_website
b In October 2015, before the official start of t... (show quote)





What you posted this time echoes what I directed you to. It is the opposite of what you stated above. The dossier had nothing to do with Conservatives. The dossier was Steele's fabrication and he was hired after Fusion GPS was hired by Clinton/DNC.

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Aug 18, 2018 04:06:13   #
woodguru
 
PeterS wrote:
And what Treachery are you talking about? The Dossier on Trump was started by you conservatives and only dropped when T***p w*n the nomination. It was only picked up by Hillary afterwards and there is no telling what was added or whether it was near complete. And what corruption and abuse of power are you talking about? The Dossier is true so why are you guys sniveling over it's compilation. You guys don't care so what's the problem? As long as you guys keep the majority Trump is safe because even if he openly colluded with Putin the only thing you cons care about is that you maintain power. So chill out. Your pumpkinfuhrer is safe unless you lose one or both of the houses. So v**e and stop worrying about your fearless leader, okay!
And what Treachery are you talking about? The Doss... (show quote)


It's like Manafort, it doesn't make any difference that he is a career criminal by MO, Trump says he's a nice guy and what's being done to him is horrible.

It's not like an innocent guy is being railroaded, but to hear Trump that's what's happening.

And by the way, what Trump is doing by weighing in the way he is doing is blatant jury tampering. He's going too far with that and his i***tic clearance meddling, the FBI and CIA can handle their own clearances better than Trump has managed the ones he has bestowed on family and friends who could never in a million years actually qualify to have accessto top national security issues.

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Aug 18, 2018 04:39:39   #
PeterS
 
JW wrote:
What you posted this time echoes what I directed you to. It is the opposite of what you stated above. The dossier had nothing to do with Conservatives. The dossier was Steele's fabrication and he was hired after Fusion GPS was hired by Clinton/DNC.

The dossier was largely complied by a conservative organization. How can you sit there and claim no responsibility? If you wrote two thirds of a book and it was finished by someone else would you claim no responsibility? And what was the fabrication created by Steele? What in the dossier isn't accurate? You guys have yet to debunk any of the points made by the dossier so how can you sit there and claim it a fabrication?

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Aug 18, 2018 05:07:52   #
JW
 
PeterS wrote:
The dossier was largely complied by a conservative organization. How can you sit there and claim no responsibility? If you wrote two thirds of a book and it was finished by someone else would you claim no responsibility? And what was the fabrication created by Steele? What in the dossier isn't accurate? You guys have yet to debunk any of the points made by the dossier so how can you sit there and claim it a fabrication?


It was NOT compiled by a Conservative organization. The dossier was created by Steele and other opposition research was done by Fusion GPS. Neither one is Conservative.

The only Conservative involvement in anything to do with the whole thing was legitimate opposition research conducted BEFORE Trump was nominated. Clinton/DNC/Steele all occurred after he got the Republican nomination.

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Aug 18, 2018 12:46:22   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
JW wrote:
The dossier had nothing to do with Conservatives or Republicans... NOTHING!!!

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-dossier-timeline-whats-known

It is true that a Republican donor, opposed to Trump, began background research on Trump through Fusion GPS but that was long before the dossier came into being.

Once Trump wrapped up the nomination, Hillary and the DNC hired the same company to research Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Steele and Steele created the dossier.

I'm sure that every candidate had his or her own research done on the opposition. That is normal. What is not normal is hiring a foreign spy who openly h**ed Trump and then inventing a fiction and using it to create a dossier. Even the FBI fired Steele for his unreliable behavior. Still, they used the dossier to acquire the FISA warrants.

Using Shep Smith as an authority on anything political is self defeating. He h**es Trump as much as Hillary does.
The dossier had nothing to do with Conservatives o... (show quote)


The FBI continued to communicate with Steel on the dossier after he'd been fired as well.

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