Cripple

Dear Believers of the Vietnam Gulf of Tonkin,
The lies that our Navy ships in that Gulf being fired upon, U.S. men k**led. The government, military, said so, all the media at the time repeated it & the mood of the country changed. We wanted nothing to do with another Korea (Police Action) a decade earlier but now the Gulf of Tonkin, we all want to go to war. We did, it was another deceit from our government. Enter the Vietnam Police Action, still such today. A lie told by our government, encouraged and repeated many times by the media and young fools like me who seemed we couldn't wait to "get even" with those who k**led our servicemen. A LIE! The Gulf of Tonkin NEVER HAPPENED! All those deaths, all those lives ruined, all those who went out of their way to NOT go to Vietnam, Trump you're one of them.

I have this "acceptable conduct" thing. "Ethics", just the first few topics & I think #1 is "no deceit"! We encourage deceit, it is "acceptable conduct" to us and actually expect such from our politicians. Lie first because people believe lies. Me? Lie to me once is all you need & you lost me. I believe it is our U.S. society that find "Deceit" as "acceptable conduct" and will v**e, aid, and encourage/reward a liar. Where is the problem? I think the problem is with those willing to accept the lie. Am I one of those "Conspiracy Theory" guys? I don't think so, but look that our government & media were so willing to "K**L" over 58,000+ of good men, good people, I knew personally, what else would they do? Would they do a 9/11 to make money like they did for Vietnam? I think so. There is no limit and there is no contract, no level of disgust a person may have against those with blood on their hands in exchange for profit. Money, used to lie to people. Money used for people to believe the lies, encourage the lies, reward the lies.

I'm not long for this world and this old Marine refuses to go until I find someone to take over for me when I'm gone on the issue of "Ethics" attaching "Deceit" at every opportunity. 100 years from now, would it matter? YES! I'll bet people will look back saying people back then were stupid, just not as smart as we are today to be r****ts, N**i's, skin-heads, Bigots who actually elected a Bigot into a high political office as President. They sure did like being lied-to then (in those days). Is that you? Is that who you are? A R****t Bigot? Are you so dumb as to believe all the lies? Who are you supporting right now?

I know people don't like to take the blame for anything, even when it's obvious, another thing future people will look upon as stupid, such a lack of smarts.

Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa

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Who are you supporting right now?

I support President Trump because he is so much better than the alternative and he has accomplished much more than the past 3 Presidents all combined.

As far as being lied to--no one has lied to the American people more than either Obama or the Clintons-- or LBJ " The Democrats. President Trump is not a perfect person but I did not v**e for him to be a Boy Scout leader. I v**ed for him to be President of this great country. Look at who lied to us about the Gulf of Tonkin.
LBJ a F-ing Democrat

I was in Vietnam 3 times between 1965 and 1969. Now when I look back I realize that we should not have gone to war in Vietnam. French Indochina had been under French rule since 1887. It was a Colony of France just like what later became the USA had been a Colony of Great Briton. The people in that part of the world just wanted their freedom and we should have helped them but we didn't because France was an Allie of the United States. Ho Chi Mein asked us for help and we turned him down so then he turned to the C*******t for help.

I don't believe we should be fighting in Afghanistan or Syria or Iraq. We should not allow Muslims to immigrate to this country. They should be forced to remain in their own Muslim countries k*****g each other. Too late now though, Lieing-Muslim Obama has infected this country with Islam just like a disease.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Thank you Sailor....I too v**ed for President Trump because of his policies....Obama was a good speaker especially when he had teleprompter,but he had lousy policies...

pafret Loc: Northeast

You are an optimist, if you think that people 100 years from now will be able to assess anything. By that time, the pablum they are force fed as evidenced by today's snowflakes will have rotted their last remaining grey matter and they will be babbling i***ts.

Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa

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I have often said that had Obama not been raised by his "white grandparents"
(who he resented) he probably wouldn't be able to speak as well as he does and
probably would not have been elected President.

Carol Kelly

Your final paragraph says it all, but you left out the part where we went to war to destroy Yugoslavia in order to aid the Bosnian Muslims. We’ve done a lot of that, haven’t we?
Obama certainly left us up the creek without a paddle. By the time all his appointees have been located, we will all be dead.

Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa

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Yes I forgot about Yugoslavia.
I never did understand that war.

Kosovo Music Video *Beach Boy Remix*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3994RFfITQ

Cripple

Thanks Old Sailor, I don't support Trump any more. I did v**e for the man & did things to encourage others to support him. I did some research and discovered he lied to us all. Obama lied to us all. Clinton lied to us all. Bush lied to us all. I'm now an Independent. I was yelling at Clinton & he lied to us all about his sexual experiences. People said then what unethical people are saying now, they didn't v**e for a man due to his sexual acts. I prefer to use the word "Ethics" rather than "Morals" because sometimes, even with my friends, we get off topic discussing "Morals" instead of the issue that began the discussion. Now I support no-one.

Here I am on my death-bed quite concerned over who will be the "Ethical" voice? So as typical Marines go, I refuse to give-up & die until that one issue of "Ethics" is solved in my mind, (we all know I'm talking #1 is Deceit).

I h**e it looking with hindsight yes the Dems. initially lied to us and the Repbs. held that "Police Action" close to their chest for decades. McCain is a war hero in my eyes, he didn't have the input to send us to Nam, so what he was involved in during Nam is on him (hero in this case). I really didn't know that as a Candidate Trump was on a radio show claiming his sexual experiences left him vulnerable for sexually t***smitted diseases (his worry) and such equates him to the bravery & courage of those of us who have been in a combat situation. We were already involved in Nam via the U.N. It seriously breaks my heart even today those I saw, those I held as they bled-out. To me such were life-changing events. Others really don't fully understand. Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria well I, now today, don't believe a word from the govt. I wouldn't put anything past them.

What political party a person tags on themselves is of no difference to me. If someone supports anyone who is outside their personal ethics is not a person to me, not human. I'll leave this life soon enough, I'm sure too soon. I'm not proud of so much I've done in my life. Wish I had another shot at it.