carolyn

Obama's Executive Order #13524 amended Executive Order # 12425. It grants the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) "rights" on American soil that place it BEYOND THE REACH of our own law enforcement agencies such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). In other words, he signed the rights of our own law enforcement away for the sake of the UN police. Does this not upset some truly patriotic Americans that our so-called president would do such a thing?

Now why does anyone think Obummer would do this if he was, in actuality, the "GREAT" American, who also took the p**********l oath to uphold our Constitution to the letter, that some i***ts believe him to be?

I wonder how it feels to stagger through life in a stupid utopian trance as some seem to be in all the time?

vernon

vernon

i think he is just giving our soventry over to the un one little bit at a time.and on congress for not making noise and letting the people know about this.

Had enough

IMPEACH obama NOW!!!!! His impeachment can stand even if the Senate refuses to enforce it, then the republicans can finish the job in Jan... Let him know we've had enough of it and we're not going to take anymore of it!!!!! The democRATS in this Country can get behind this or get OUT OF THIS COUNTRY!!!!!! Go to Russia to live since you don't mind being controlled by a DICTATOR!!!!!

battalion

it is about time we impeach this i***t.

Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

Have you carefully read those two EOs, and the pertinent sections of Title 1 of Public Law 79-291? Could you explain the changes, or did you just read this on a website or in an email?

carolyn

I read the changes as well as the original 12425. Did you read them both?

RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC

I think you already know that she just read it on a website inside her bubble. All that EO 13524 (dated DECEMBER 17, 2009, by the way) did was remove inefficiencies in Interpol operations.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/12/just-what-did-president-obamas-executive-order-regarding-interpol-do/

From that artcle:

So what does the counterterrorism official from the Bush years think of this?

He can't believe it's taken this long.

"To the extent that granting these immunities to INTERPOL furthers the efficacy or ease of information-sharing or joint action on an expedited basis to act on warrants seems like a no brainer to me," the official says.

skott Loc: Bama

Here is what SNOPES hasw to say: Origins: On 17 December 2009, President Barack Obama issued an executive order which extended to INTERPOL, the international police organization, an additional subset of the standard "privileges, exemptions and immunities" granted to public international organizations by the U.S. under the International Organizations Immunities Act. President Obama's executive order was an amendation of one issued by President Ronald Reagan in 1983 which first applied the International Organizations Immunities Act to INTERPOL.

While the fact of the executive order is real, the claims that it gives INTERPOL license to start conducting warrantless searches, arresting U.S. citizens, and violating other constitutional guarantees to due process are exaggerated.

The common perception of INTERPOL as a global police organization that sends agents around the world to track down suspects, make arrests, and haul criminals before international tribunals (such as the United Nations) for trial is erroneous. INTERPOL has no police force, and it does not conduct criminal


investigations or make arrests. It's merely an administrative organization that services its member countries (currently 188 in number) by facilitating and coordinating the sharing of law enforcement organization. If, for example, one country should issue an arrest warrant for a suspect currently residing in a second country, INTERPOL merely passes along the warrant and related information to the second country — it's completely up to the latter's government to decide if their laws justify an arrest and, if so, to send their own agents to effect it.

As the New York Times noted, the granting of additional immunities to INTERPOL was prompted by that organization's opening a liaison office at the United Nations' New York headquarters in 2004 and was something first considered during the administration of George W. Bush:
When public international organizations are operating on United States soil, a law allows the president to grant them certain rights and immunities, just as foreign embassies receive privileges. More than 70 organizations — including the International Committee of the Red Cross, the World Bank and the International Pacific Halibut Commission — receive those rights.

In 1983, President Ronald Reagan extended some rights — including immunity from lawsuits or prosecution for official acts — to Interpol, which was holding its annual meeting in the United States. But Mr. Reagan's order did not include other standard privileges — like immunity from certain tax requirements and from having its property or records subject to search and seizure — because at the time, Interpol had no permanent office or employees on United States soil.

That changed in 2004, when Interpol opened a liaison office at the United Nations in New York City. The office consists of five staff members, [Interpol spokeswoman Rachel] Billington said, and they have access to law enforcement information submitted by other countries with restrictions on who may receive it.

"When the office opened in 2004, we said look, we'd like to have the Interpol staff working in the office in New York afforded the same immunities as other international organizations," Ms. Billington said. "It's only for the New York office."

The State Department recommended approving the request, but the Bush White House did not complete the matter before its term ended, and so it rolled over.

It is just amazing how her article has foreign countries having taken over the US.

carolyn

If you would also check the background of Snopes, you would find that they are a man/wife team that gets almost as much wrong as they get right. They also get most of their info concerning the s**ms of the government from the government websites. So go ahead and check everything through snopes. You MIGHT be right occasionally.

If you want to check the difference between PO Orders 12425 and 13524, check them both verbatim and see where Obama changed and eliminated a FEW punctuation marks here and there to completely change HIS PO from that of President Reagan. Then you should be able to see where he gives INTERPOL full authority over us.

Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

Damn, I h**e having to post all this to expose your crap, but here the pertinent sections of Title 1 of 79-291 are, with my comments in RED.

SEC. 2.[edit]
International organizations shall enjoy the status, immunities, exemptions, and privileges set forth in this section, as follows:

(c)Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable. Anything here in Sect. 2(c), giving Interpol authority?

SEC. 3.[edit]
Pursuant to regulations prescribed by the Commissioner of Customs with the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, the baggage and effects of alien officers and employees of international organizations, or of aliens designated by foreign governments to serve as their representatives in or to such organizations, or of the families, suites, and servants of such officers, employees, or representatives shall be admitted (when imported in connection with the arrival of the owner) free of customs duties and free of internal-revenue taxes imposed upon or by reason of importation. Anything here in Sect. 3, that you can point out as giving authority?

SEC. 4.[edit]
The Internal Revenue Code is hereby amended as follows:
(a) Effective with respect to taxable years beginning after December 31, 1943, section 116 (c), relating to the exclusion from gross income of income of foreign governments, is amended to read as follows:


``(C) INCOME OF FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS AND OF INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS.—The income of foreign governments or international organizations received from investments in the United States in stocks, bonds, or other domestic securities, owned by such foreign governments or by international organizations, or from interest on deposits in banks in the United States of moneys belonging to such foreign governments or international organizations, or from any other source within the United States.´´


(b) Effective with respect to taxable years beginning after December 31, 1943, section 116 (h) (1), relating to the exclusion from gross income of amounts paid employees of foreign governments, is amended to read as follows:


``(1) RULE FOR EXCLUSION.—Wages, fees, or salary of any employee of a foreign government or of an international organization or of the Commonwealth of the Philippines (including a consular or other officer, or a nondiplomatic representative), received as compensation for official services to such government, international organization, or such Commonwealth—
``(A) If such employee is not a citizen of the United States, or is a citizen of the Commonwealth of the Philippines (whether or not a citizen of the United States); and
``(B) If, in the case of an employee of a foreign government or of the Commonwealth of the Philippines, the services are of a character similar to those performed by employees of the Government of the United States in foreign countries or in the Commonwealth of the Philippines, as the case may be; and
``(C) If, in the case of an employee of a foreign government or the Commonwealth of the Philippines, the foreign government or the Commonwealth grants an equivalent exemption to employees of the Government of the United States performing similar services in such foreign country or such Commonwealth, as the case may be.´´


(c) Effective January 1, 1946, section 1426 (b), defining the term ‘‘employment’’ for the purposes of the Federal Insurance Contributions Act, is amended (1) by striking out the word ‘‘or’’ at the end of paragraph (14), (2) by striking out the period at the end of paragraph (15) and inserting in lieu thereof a semicolon and the word ‘‘or’’, and (3) by inserting at the end of the subsection the following new paragraph:


``(16) Service performed in the employ of an international organization.´´


(d) Effective January 1, 1946, section 1607 (c) defining the term ‘‘employment’’ for the purposes of the Federal Unemployment Tax Act, is amended (1) by striking out the word ‘‘or’’ at the end of paragraph (14), (2) by striking out the period at the end of paragraph (15) and inserting in lieu thereof a semicolon and the word ‘‘or’’, and (3) by inserting at the end of the subsection the following new paragraph:


``(16) Service performed in the employ of an international organization.´´


(e) Section 1621 (a) (5), relating to the definition of ‘‘wages’’ for the purpose of collection of income tax at the source, is amended by inserting after the words ‘‘foreign government’’ the words ‘‘or an international organization’’.
(f) Section 3466 (a), relating to exemption from communications taxes is amended by inserting immediately after the words ‘‘the District of Columbia’’ a comma and the words ‘‘or an international organization’’.
(g) Section 3469 (f) (1), relating to exemption from the tax on t***sportation of persons, is amended by inserting immediately after the words ‘‘the District of Columbia’’ a comma and the words ‘‘or an international organization’’.
(h) Section 3475 (b) (1), relating to exemption from the tax on t***sportation of property, is amended by inserting immediately after the words ‘‘the District of Columbia’’ a comma and the words ‘‘or an international organization’’.
(i) Section 3797 (a), relating to definitions, is amended by adding at the end thereof a new paragraph as follows:


``(18) INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION.—The term ‘international organization’ means a public international organization entitled to enjoy privileges, exemptions, and immunities as an international organization under the International Organizations Immunities Act.´´ The whole of this section, Sect. 4, deals with taxation.

SEC. 5.[edit]
(a) Effective January 1, 1946, section 209 (b) of the Social Security Act, defining the term ‘‘employment’’ for the purposes of title II of the Act, is amended (1) by striking out the word ‘‘or’’ at the end paragraph (14), (2) by striking out the period at the end of paragraph (15) and inserting in lieu thereof a semicolon and the word ‘‘or’’, and (3) by inserting at the end of the subsection the following new paragraph:


``(16) Service performed in the employ of an international organization entitled to enjoy privileges, exemptions, and immunities as an international organization under the International Organizations Immunities Act.´´


(b) No tax shall be collected under title VIII or IX of the Social Security Act or under the Federal Insurance Contributions Act or the Federal Unemployment Tax Act, with respect to services rendered prior to January 1, 1946, which are described in paragraph (16) of sections 1426 (b) and 1607 (c) of the Internal Revenue Code, as amended, and any such tax heretofore collected (including penalty and interest with respect thereto, if any) shall be refunded in accordance with the provisions of law applicable in the case of erroneous or illegal collection of the tax. No interest shall be allowed or paid on the amount of any such refund. No payment shall be made under title II of the Social Security Act with respect to services rendered prior to January 1, 1946, which are described in paragraph (16) of section 209 (b) of such Act, as amended. Nothing here except exemption from SS Taxes, nothing giving Interpol authority.

SEC. 6.[edit]
International organizations shall be exempt from all property taxes imposed by, or under the authority of, any Act of Congress, including such Acts as are applicable solely to the District of Columbia or the Territories. Again a tax exemption, but no authority over US citizens.

RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC

That's odd: I don't see anywhere where Interpol is given authority over U.S. citizens either. Could carolyn possibly be wrong?

Carolyn, you really should research a little before you post. You get caught with your pants down over and over again. Nobody likes to see that.

jasfourth401

Thank you for posting this in-depth review. When I started to research it, the first thing that popped out was "why are we arguing about something from the last decade?"

carolyn

I don't know why you felt you had to post anything so full of inconsequential bull s**t as you did because it does not pertain in the least to what I posted.

Here is the Executive Order I posted...

Executive Order 13524 of December 16, 2009

Amending Executive Order 12425 Designating Interpol as a Public International Organization Entitled to enjoy certain Privileges, Exemptions, and Immunities.

By the authority vested in me as president by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C.288) and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by DELETING FROM THE FIRST SENTENCE THE WORDS "EXCEPT THOSE PROVIDED BY SECTION 2(C), SECTION 4, SECTION 5, AND SECTION 6 OF THAT ACT" AND THE SEMICOLON THAT IMMEDIATELY PRECEEDS THEM.


Barack Obama

The White House
December 16, 2009

Now all the other gibberish that you and the "hero" Naval CWO jerk copied was nothing but Bull S**t from the world's biggest couple of fools. Hell, very little of the crap you copied even pertained to what I started on my post. You two i***ts went to a lot of trouble to not say a thing that corresponded to what I started, did you not?

Now go back and check the 12425 PO and you will see the changes this crook made to allow Interpol to investigate here with no interference.

3jack

Your little alarmist game of fear mongering among the mental midgets has been exposed for the lie that it is. EO 13524 does nothing that you claim, and you knew that when you posted it.

EO 12425

By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and statutes of the United States, including Section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669, 22 U.S.C. 288), it is hereby ordered that the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), in which the United States participates pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 263a, is hereby designated as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act; except those provided by Section 2(c), the portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act. This designation is not intended to abridge in any respect the privileges, exemptions or immunities which such organization may have acquired or may acquire by international agreement or by Congressional action.
RONALD REAGAN
The White House,
June 16,1983.

EO 13524

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.
BARACK OBAMA

EO 12425 as amended by EO 13524

By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and statutes of the United States, including Section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669, 22 U.S.C. 288), it is hereby ordered that the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), in which the United States participates pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 263a, is hereby designated as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act. This designation is not intended to abridge in any respect the privileges, exemptions or immunities which such organization may have acquired or may acquire by international agreement or by Congressional action.
RONALD REAGAN
The White House,
June 16,1983.