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Aug 12, 2018 15:44:08   #
debeda
 
buffalo wrote:
I think it was super dave that chastised me for constantly posting about the US' continual, illegal, unConstitutional, immoral warmongering mostly for the protection and benefit of some giant corporations to continue to plunder another sovereign nations resources for their profits. Of course, they LIE to the US sheople that it is to spread democracy, fight terrorism or some other bulls**t.

Viet Nam accomplished nothing but to get 58,000 patriotic young men k**led and many more wounded and mangled. The war in Iraq in 15 years has accomplished nothing except getting nearly 5,000 soldiers k**l, many thousands more wounded and making a whole slew of private corporations billions all to preserve the hegemony of the petrodollar.

!7 years in Afghanistan has done the same only worse and there is NO END in site.

Look at the mess the US created in Libya all to preserve the petrodollar by letting terrorist murder Gadahfi becuse he was woking to unite the oil producing countries of Africa into trading oil only for the gold backed dinar and because he was selling oil to Russia and China.

As General Smedley Butler said in his 1935 book by the same title that War is a Racket. He was dead on.
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As far as I'm concerned if another country attacks we should obliterate them. Otherwise, mind our own business.

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Aug 12, 2018 16:29:32   #
Cripple
 
Thanks so much debeda! You seem to be a man that has so much to offer in Ethics that so many need to hear, certainly listen to regardless of what he/she may think they know. Yes a pretty shocking fact, I agree. I do admire Gen. Smedley Butler I have that book War is a Racket.

I have the best wife in the world. I did get out of the Marines after those days of April 29th & 30th, 75. I did stay in a few years. I got out as a Sgt. laugh that the highest rank was a Gunny Sgt. I really didn't like officers, well one I disliked a lot.

I'll give you a hint. I was sent on Missions was given a Spotter to help. Most died I h**e to say. One they sent with me was suppose to be a Corporal. I found out he wasn't, was actually a Major who was sent under-cover I guess to learn. He wrote a book. Another hint, I'm from Arizona, still in Arizona.

Military, so many heros. So many who would have added so much to lives of people who never got the chance.

All the movies they made, some close to the way it was in Nam, parts here and there. There is this Burt Lancaster in Go Tell The Spartans movie. Burt Lancaster was also in a fairly good movie named Twilight's Last Gleaming. Yes, these limited and unlimited wars are terrible, horrendous and people simply can't grasp what it's like living in a war zone. I see some of them and just keep my mouth shut thinking there has to be people like that in the world, otherwise we would have nothing to talk about, lol.

My wife saved me from a PTSD that nobody could have lived in. These people making money from the blood of others are actually running the show in the U.S. and people really don't know. I think they know there is manipulation of the masses going on, but still can't figure it out.

Those of us on what is called the "Right" are accused of being a bit on the stupid side. Think about it a moment. We love a Democracy where, in our case, is a Representative Government. We put people into jobs (e******ns) who are suppose to act in our behalf and it is an easy leap that these Representatives are suppose to reflect our "Ethics", but they don't. This I.C.E. is a good example. ICE has one boss, the President. Our Legislative Branch is not part of them at all, even oversight. That is why ICE should go, at least make some law to legalize ICE. Our Representatives are accountable to us and therefore should be allowed everywhere, but they aren't due to their structure. All the right should be agreeing ICE is also accountable through our Representative Government, not some Dictatorship where the palace guards are accountable to a single individual NOT part of a Representative Government. People just don't think, otherwise we would NOT be in these several generations war upon war.

Thanks for the Sunday chats. I love them. Made for a good day. We can only hope other people actually read this and think if they are capable.
I do claim when it comes to writing, you win, you're the better man, that's quite a book you wrote. Good book yes. I keep too much to myself as my wife says.

buffalo wrote:
I think it was super dave that chastised me for constantly posting about the US' continual, illegal, unConstitutional, immoral warmongering mostly for the protection and benefit of some giant corporations to continue to plunder another sovereign nations resources for their profits. Of course, they LIE to the US sheople that it is to spread democracy, fight terrorism or some other bulls**t.

Viet Nam accomplished nothing but to get 58,000 patriotic young men k**led and many more wounded and mangled. The war in Iraq in 15 years has accomplished nothing except getting nearly 5,000 soldiers k**l, many thousands more wounded and making a whole slew of private corporations billions all to preserve the hegemony of the petrodollar.

!7 years in Afghanistan has done the same only worse and there is NO END in site.

Look at the mess the US created in Libya all to preserve the petrodollar by letting terrorist murder Gadahfi becuse he was woking to unite the oil producing countries of Africa into trading oil only for the gold backed dinar and because he was selling oil to Russia and China.

As General Smedley Butler said in his 1935 book by the same title that War is a Racket. He was dead on.
I think it was super dave that chastised me for co... (show quote)

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Aug 12, 2018 16:52:15   #
debeda
 
Cripple wrote:
Thanks so much debeda! You seem to be a man that has so much to offer in Ethics that so many need to hear, certainly listen to regardless of what he/she may think they know. Yes a pretty shocking fact, I agree. I do admire Gen. Smedley Butler I have that book War is a Racket.

I have the best wife in the world. I did get out of the Marines after those days of April 29th & 30th, 75. I did stay in a few years. I got out as a Sgt. laugh that the highest rank was a Gunny Sgt. I really didn't like officers, well one I disliked a lot.

I'll give you a hint. I was sent on Missions was given a Spotter to help. Most died I h**e to say. One they sent with me was suppose to be a Corporal. I found out he wasn't, was actually a Major who was sent under-cover I guess to learn. He wrote a book. Another hint, I'm from Arizona, still in Arizona.

Military, so many heros. So many who would have added so much to lives of people who never got the chance.

All the movies they made, some close to the way it was in Nam, parts here and there. There is this Burt Lancaster in Go Tell The Spartans movie. Burt Lancaster was also in a fairly good movie named Twilight's Last Gleaming. Yes, these limited and unlimited wars are terrible, horrendous and people simply can't grasp what it's like living in a war zone. I see some of them and just keep my mouth shut thinking there has to be people like that in the world, otherwise we would have nothing to talk about, lol.

My wife saved me from a PTSD that nobody could have lived in. These people making money from the blood of others are actually running the show in the U.S. and people really don't know. I think they know there is manipulation of the masses going on, but still can't figure it out.

Those of us on what is called the "Right" are accused of being a bit on the stupid side. Think about it a moment. We love a Democracy where, in our case, is a Representative Government. We put people into jobs (e******ns) who are suppose to act in our behalf and it is an easy leap that these Representatives are suppose to reflect our "Ethics", but they don't. This I.C.E. is a good example. ICE has one boss, the President. Our Legislative Branch is not part of them at all, even oversight. That is why ICE should go, at least make some law to legalize ICE. Our Representatives are accountable to us and therefore should be allowed everywhere, but they aren't due to their structure. All the right should be agreeing ICE is also accountable through our Representative Government, not some Dictatorship where the palace guards are accountable to a single individual NOT part of a Representative Government. People just don't think, otherwise we would NOT be in these several generations war upon war.

Thanks for the Sunday chats. I love them. Made for a good day. We can only hope other people actually read this and think if they are capable.
I do claim when it comes to writing, you win, you're the better man, that's quite a book you wrote. Good book yes. I keep too much to myself as my wife says.
Thanks so much debeda! You seem to be a man that h... (show quote)


I think ICE is accountable to the DOJ, as they are a police force of sorts, to protect our borders. We can't really do away with ICE unless and until police departments are given the right and responsibilities to patrol our borders. I don't know if that's workable, as there are many border towns that are tiny with correspondingly tiny (1 -3) man police forces.

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Aug 13, 2018 12:13:15   #
Cripple
 
Thanks buddy, debeda. Clearing some things up for me.

debeda wrote:
I think ICE is accountable to the DOJ, as they are a police force of sorts, to protect our borders. We can't really do away with ICE unless and until police departments are given the right and responsibilities to patrol our borders. I don't know if that's workable, as there are many border towns that are tiny with correspondingly tiny (1 -3) man police forces.

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Aug 13, 2018 12:39:57   #
debeda
 
Cripple wrote:
Thanks buddy, debeda. Clearing some things up for me.



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