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Jul 30, 2018 11:35:22   #
thebigp
 
58jH.,b58
President Trump is against their GRAVY TRAIN! That is why so many of the Congress are retiring. They hope to keep their Retirement as it stands now.

The Trump Rule’s Congressional Reform Act of 2018:
1 – NO TENURE / NO PENSION. A Congressman/Woman, collects a salary while in office and receives No Pay when they’re Out Of Office. No More Perks Go With Them.
2 – Congressman/Woman (Past, Present & Future) participate in Social Security. All Funds in the Congressional Retirement Fund Move To The Social Security System Immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security System and Congress participates with the American People. It may not be used for any other purposes.
3 – Congress must purchase their own Retirement Plan, just as all Americans do.

4 – Congress will No Longer V**e Themselves a Pay Increase. Congressional Pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
5 – Congress loses their current Healthcare System and participates in the same Healthcare System as the American People.
6 – Congress must equally abide by all the Laws they impose on the American People.
7 – All contracts with Past and Present Congressman/Woman are Void. The American People did not make this Contract with Congressmen/Women. Congress made all these Contracts For Themselves. Serving in Congress is an Honor, Not a Career. The Founding Fathers envisioned Citizen Legislators should serve their Terms, then go home and go back to work and not get all kinds of Freebies!
NO WONDER THEY’RE FIGHTING EVERYTHING HE TRIES!

SOURCE- Rule’s Congressional Reform Act of 2018:

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Jul 30, 2018 11:49:28   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Do you think this will be passed? I hope so! This is yet another move in the right direction!!!
thebigp wrote:
58jH.,b58
President Trump is against their GRAVY TRAIN! That is why so many of the Congress are retiring. They hope to keep their Retirement as it stands now.

The Trump Rule’s Congressional Reform Act of 2018:
1 – NO TENURE / NO PENSION. A Congressman/Woman, collects a salary while in office and receives No Pay when they’re Out Of Office. No More Perks Go With Them.
2 – Congressman/Woman (Past, Present & Future) participate in Social Security. All Funds in the Congressional Retirement Fund Move To The Social Security System Immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security System and Congress participates with the American People. It may not be used for any other purposes.
3 – Congress must purchase their own Retirement Plan, just as all Americans do.

4 – Congress will No Longer V**e Themselves a Pay Increase. Congressional Pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
5 – Congress loses their current Healthcare System and participates in the same Healthcare System as the American People.
6 – Congress must equally abide by all the Laws they impose on the American People.
7 – All contracts with Past and Present Congressman/Woman are Void. The American People did not make this Contract with Congressmen/Women. Congress made all these Contracts For Themselves. Serving in Congress is an Honor, Not a Career. The Founding Fathers envisioned Citizen Legislators should serve their Terms, then go home and go back to work and not get all kinds of Freebies!
NO WONDER THEY’RE FIGHTING EVERYTHING HE TRIES!

SOURCE- Rule’s Congressional Reform Act of 2018:
58jH.,b58 br President Trump is against their GRAV... (show quote)

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Jul 30, 2018 12:03:07   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
thebigp wrote:
58jH.,b58
President Trump is against their GRAVY TRAIN! That is why so many of the Congress are retiring. They hope to keep their Retirement as it stands now.

The Trump Rule’s Congressional Reform Act of 2018:
1 – NO TENURE / NO PENSION. A Congressman/Woman, collects a salary while in office and receives No Pay when they’re Out Of Office. No More Perks Go With Them.
2 – Congressman/Woman (Past, Present & Future) participate in Social Security. All Funds in the Congressional Retirement Fund Move To The Social Security System Immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security System and Congress participates with the American People. It may not be used for any other purposes.
3 – Congress must purchase their own Retirement Plan, just as all Americans do.

4 – Congress will No Longer V**e Themselves a Pay Increase. Congressional Pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
5 – Congress loses their current Healthcare System and participates in the same Healthcare System as the American People.
6 – Congress must equally abide by all the Laws they impose on the American People.
7 – All contracts with Past and Present Congressman/Woman are Void. The American People did not make this Contract with Congressmen/Women. Congress made all these Contracts For Themselves. Serving in Congress is an Honor, Not a Career. The Founding Fathers envisioned Citizen Legislators should serve their Terms, then go home and go back to work and not get all kinds of Freebies!
NO WONDER THEY’RE FIGHTING EVERYTHING HE TRIES!

SOURCE- Rule’s Congressional Reform Act of 2018:
58jH.,b58 br President Trump is against their GRAV... (show quote)

Who would argue against such sweeping proposals Certainly not I, as I pretty much agree with all of it.

However, as is so often usual case......https://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/congressional-reform-act/

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Jul 30, 2018 12:06:22   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Your fact check is from 2011 and if the proposal has been around that long and still gaining support, don't you agree that these concerns should be taken seriously?

slatten49 wrote:
Who would argue against such sweeping proposals Certainly not I, as I pretty much agree with all of it.

However, as is so often usual case......https://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/congressional-reform-act/

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Jul 30, 2018 12:20:20   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Your fact check is from 2011 and if the proposal has been around that long and still gaining support, don't you agree that these concerns should be taken seriously?

I understand it to be a long-running non-factual proposal, but did inadvertently downplay that the original posting came in 2011. But, believe me, as I stated in my earlier post...I am all for the proposals involved, however unlikely

I can't imagine being opposed.

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Jul 30, 2018 12:44:31   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
What would it take to change this from a non-action item to something that could be enacted?
I do not know, and I trust you have investigated the option.

slatten49 wrote:
I understand it to be a long-running non-factual proposal, but did inadvertently downplay that the original posting came in 2011. But, believe me, as I stated in my earlier post...I am all for the proposals involved, however unlikely

I can't imagine being opposed.

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Jul 30, 2018 13:06:19   #
woodguru
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Your fact check is from 2011 and if the proposal has been around that long and still gaining support, don't you agree that these concerns should be taken seriously?


The president never has or ever will take that seriously, attributing it to the president is f**e news.

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Jul 30, 2018 13:15:28   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
We know that our President reads all nature of articles, we do not know for a fact that he is not considering this as a way forward to draining the swamp..
woodguru wrote:
The president never has or ever will take that seriously, attributing it to the president is f**e news.

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Jul 30, 2018 13:22:33   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
What would it take to change this from a non-action item to something that could be enacted?
I do not know, and I trust you have investigated the option.

I have investigated it very little, but enough to suspect it isn't gon'na happen. I say that simply because I doubt any congress will pass such a bill limiting their benefits/perks. I can't recall seeing the judicial or executive branch being covered by such proposals. And, if one reads the FactCheck link provided (if believed) says that most of the unknown author's proposals make factual claims that betray a profound ignorance of the system he or she proposes to "reform."

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Jul 30, 2018 13:46:58   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
A former Senator, Tom Coburn (R), wrote during the 2016 e******n, “Americans haven’t agreed on much during… the p**********l primary, but one thing seems clear: they are frustrated with the federal government.” Perhaps a new approach to the issue of term limits would enact the will of the people. To this end, along with seven of my fellow Congressmen, I have introduced the Thomas Jefferson Public Service Act of 2018. This proposal offers a means of effectively putting capitated service, i.e. “term limits,” in place without amending the Constitution. The Act will reduce the salary of an elected Member of Congress to $1 a year after they serve six (6) consecutive terms in the House or two (2) consecutive terms in the Senate, and does not require a Constitutional amendment." This is presently in consideration as of April 2018.
Would you believe, those supporting this is all Republicans? https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5539/all-info

Could it happen... not likely unless a few Democrats get on board.... then it will gain favor and action from the progressives.... perhaps they can march on Washington with demanding passage of the bill.

slatten49 wrote:
I have investigated it very little, but enough to suspect it isn't gon'na happen. I say that simply because I doubt any congress will pass such a bill limiting their benefits/perks. I can't recall seeing the judicial or executive branch being covered by such proposals. And, if one reads the FactCheck link provided (if believed) says that most of the unknown author's proposals make factual claims that betray a profound ignorance of the system he or she proposes to "reform."
I have investigated it very little, but enough to ... (show quote)

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Jul 30, 2018 14:19:12   #
emarine
 
Pennylynn wrote:
A former Senator, Tom Coburn (R), wrote during the 2016 e******n, “Americans haven’t agreed on much during… the p**********l primary, but one thing seems clear: they are frustrated with the federal government.” Perhaps a new approach to the issue of term limits would enact the will of the people. To this end, along with seven of my fellow Congressmen, I have introduced the Thomas Jefferson Public Service Act of 2018. This proposal offers a means of effectively putting capitated service, i.e. “term limits,” in place without amending the Constitution. The Act will reduce the salary of an elected Member of Congress to $1 a year after they serve six (6) consecutive terms in the House or two (2) consecutive terms in the Senate, and does not require a Constitutional amendment." This is presently in consideration as of April 2018.
Would you believe, those supporting this is all Republicans? https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5539/all-info

Could it happen... not likely unless a few Democrats get on board.... then it will gain favor and action from the progressives.... perhaps they can march on Washington with demanding passage of the bill.
A former Senator, Tom Coburn (R), wrote during th... (show quote)




I think we should all sharpen our pitchforks & storm DC at night like in Frankenstein & scare them into submission ...

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Jul 30, 2018 14:22:23   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
What a marvelous funny idea!
emarine wrote:
I think we should all sharpen our pitchforks & storm DC at night like in Frankenstein & scare them into submission ...



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Jul 30, 2018 15:26:18   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
emarine wrote:
I think we should all sharpen our pitchforks & storm DC at night like in Frankenstein & scare them into submission ...

PTSD issues, Jarhead

I like it

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Jul 30, 2018 16:09:47   #
Lonewolf
 
now your talkin





emarine wrote:
I think we should all sharpen our pitchforks & storm DC at night like in Frankenstein & scare them into submission ...

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Jul 30, 2018 16:10:55   #
Lonewolf
 
thinking Congress would pass anything like this is laughable.

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