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Jul 24, 2018 13:09:54   #
Cripple
 
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump supporter? Where did this come from?

My neighbor and I have many interesting debates. She is an intelligent person, though I would never tell her that. I’m all in for a good debate but this screaming upset, belittling comments, all the huff-n-puff are clear signs of some stupid people (well I think so).

I’ve already been the target of the same people I use to claim allegiance. I was called “an unnecessary financial drain on U.S. society.” due to being a former U.S. Marine in Vietnam. Yes, I was given tin, close to some fine U.S. citizens die in that godforsaken country. Now V.A. meds in the mail often and condemned to a wheelchair. So I don’t even try to explain to her how horrendous it is in actual combat. Saw some awful terrible things over-there, did some awful things there myself. Still difficult to talk about it, so I don’t. Someone said to leave people like me alone and the loud army went somewhere else.

I come from a small town in Arizona, close to the southern border. I see way too many people clueless about immigration. Politicians, even in this state, who are making hay over the border to get v**es. Still clueless in their rhetoric.

I’m no longer a Trump supporter due to being lied to. I researched quite deep and went back a few times because I couldn’t believe it. I refuse to believe another “Gulf of Tonkin” (too many don’t know what I’m talking about, shame).

I don’t think we want a U.S. civil war over politics. The problem is how do WE get the t***h? I remember Nixon and I do know now, Trump is “the man” now so “find” this “Deep State” and expose it. I hear talk but really don’t see anything but hype. Is there “Anyone” who thinks our Government would tell us if they knew a huge Meteor was coming? How about any other disaster? Why is the press not allowed in FEMA camps? How am I ever going to find out what’s going on there? We don’t have freedom now and that’s a big problem. So keep your “facial recognition” computer software until I find it. My loyalty is to the t***h as an absolute!

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Jul 24, 2018 13:13:23   #
Lonewolf
 
Semper Fi

Cripple wrote:
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump supporter? Where did this come from?

My neighbor and I have many interesting debates. She is an intelligent person, though I would never tell her that. I’m all in for a good debate but this screaming upset, belittling comments, all the huff-n-puff are clear signs of some stupid people (well I think so).

I’ve already been the target of the same people I use to claim allegiance. I was called “an unnecessary financial drain on U.S. society.” due to being a former U.S. Marine in Vietnam. Yes, I was given tin, close to some fine U.S. citizens die in that godforsaken country. Now V.A. meds in the mail often and condemned to a wheelchair. So I don’t even try to explain to her how horrendous it is in actual combat. Saw some awful terrible things over-there, did some awful things there myself. Still difficult to talk about it, so I don’t. Someone said to leave people like me alone and the loud army went somewhere else.

I come from a small town in Arizona, close to the southern border. I see way too many people clueless about immigration. Politicians, even in this state, who are making hay over the border to get v**es. Still clueless in their rhetoric.

I’m no longer a Trump supporter due to being lied to. I researched quite deep and went back a few times because I couldn’t believe it. I refuse to believe another “Gulf of Tonkin” (too many don’t know what I’m talking about, shame).

I don’t think we want a U.S. civil war over politics. The problem is how do WE get the t***h? I remember Nixon and I do know now, Trump is “the man” now so “find” this “Deep State” and expose it. I hear talk but really don’t see anything but hype. Is there “Anyone” who thinks our Government would tell us if they knew a huge Meteor was coming? How about any other disaster? Why is the press not allowed in FEMA camps? How am I ever going to find out what’s going on there? We don’t have freedom now and that’s a big problem. So keep your “facial recognition” computer software until I find it. My loyalty is to the t***h as an absolute!
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump su... (show quote)

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Jul 24, 2018 13:36:44   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Cripple wrote:
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump supporter? Where did this come from?

My neighbor and I have many interesting debates. She is an intelligent person, though I would never tell her that. I’m all in for a good debate but this screaming upset, belittling comments, all the huff-n-puff are clear signs of some stupid people (well I think so).

I’ve already been the target of the same people I use to claim allegiance. I was called “an unnecessary financial drain on U.S. society.” due to being a former U.S. Marine in Vietnam. Yes, I was given tin, close to some fine U.S. citizens die in that godforsaken country. Now V.A. meds in the mail often and condemned to a wheelchair. So I don’t even try to explain to her how horrendous it is in actual combat. Saw some awful terrible things over-there, did some awful things there myself. Still difficult to talk about it, so I don’t. Someone said to leave people like me alone and the loud army went somewhere else.

I come from a small town in Arizona, close to the southern border. I see way too many people clueless about immigration. Politicians, even in this state, who are making hay over the border to get v**es. Still clueless in their rhetoric.

I’m no longer a Trump supporter due to being lied to. I researched quite deep and went back a few times because I couldn’t believe it. I refuse to believe another “Gulf of Tonkin” (too many don’t know what I’m talking about, shame).

I don’t think we want a U.S. civil war over politics. The problem is how do WE get the t***h? I remember Nixon and I do know now, Trump is “the man” now so “find” this “Deep State” and expose it. I hear talk but really don’t see anything but hype. Is there “Anyone” who thinks our Government would tell us if they knew a huge Meteor was coming? How about any other disaster? Why is the press not allowed in FEMA camps? How am I ever going to find out what’s going on there? We don’t have freedom now and that’s a big problem. So keep your “facial recognition” computer software until I find it. My loyalty is to the t***h as an absolute!
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump su... (show quote)

Of course the goverment wont tell u any thing because your a poor clueless person who couldnt handle the TRAMA and u put millions of trama clueless i***ts running around causing mayhem well it upsets goverment types and you get in the way of them sneaking off to their secret bunkers where they can live unharmed for who knows how long. Why u ask do they get these fancey bunker WELL WE pay for it. And being the clueless i***ts that we are we let them. The people you and I grew up with 40/50/60 were much smarter they built their own shelters and a lot are waking up now and doing the same. So if you fear a nuke or what ever diaster u can think of build a shelter. Me I'm to old and I guess I'll just wait and see if its the big one. No insult intended to u this is just my answer to your post


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Jul 24, 2018 14:21:38   #
son of witless
 
Cripple wrote:
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump supporter? Where did this come from?

My neighbor and I have many interesting debates. She is an intelligent person, though I would never tell her that. I’m all in for a good debate but this screaming upset, belittling comments, all the huff-n-puff are clear signs of some stupid people (well I think so).

I’ve already been the target of the same people I use to claim allegiance. I was called “an unnecessary financial drain on U.S. society.” due to being a former U.S. Marine in Vietnam. Yes, I was given tin, close to some fine U.S. citizens die in that godforsaken country. Now V.A. meds in the mail often and condemned to a wheelchair. So I don’t even try to explain to her how horrendous it is in actual combat. Saw some awful terrible things over-there, did some awful things there myself. Still difficult to talk about it, so I don’t. Someone said to leave people like me alone and the loud army went somewhere else.

I come from a small town in Arizona, close to the southern border. I see way too many people clueless about immigration. Politicians, even in this state, who are making hay over the border to get v**es. Still clueless in their rhetoric.

I’m no longer a Trump supporter due to being lied to. I researched quite deep and went back a few times because I couldn’t believe it. I refuse to believe another “Gulf of Tonkin” (too many don’t know what I’m talking about, shame).

I don’t think we want a U.S. civil war over politics. The problem is how do WE get the t***h? I remember Nixon and I do know now, Trump is “the man” now so “find” this “Deep State” and expose it. I hear talk but really don’t see anything but hype. Is there “Anyone” who thinks our Government would tell us if they knew a huge Meteor was coming? How about any other disaster? Why is the press not allowed in FEMA camps? How am I ever going to find out what’s going on there? We don’t have freedom now and that’s a big problem. So keep your “facial recognition” computer software until I find it. My loyalty is to the t***h as an absolute!
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump su... (show quote)


" I’m no longer a Trump supporter due to being lied to. "

How long were you a Trump Supporter ?

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Jul 24, 2018 14:42:55   #
emarine
 
Cripple wrote:
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump supporter? Where did this come from?

My neighbor and I have many interesting debates. She is an intelligent person, though I would never tell her that. I’m all in for a good debate but this screaming upset, belittling comments, all the huff-n-puff are clear signs of some stupid people (well I think so).

I’ve already been the target of the same people I use to claim allegiance. I was called “an unnecessary financial drain on U.S. society.” due to being a former U.S. Marine in Vietnam. Yes, I was given tin, close to some fine U.S. citizens die in that godforsaken country. Now V.A. meds in the mail often and condemned to a wheelchair. So I don’t even try to explain to her how horrendous it is in actual combat. Saw some awful terrible things over-there, did some awful things there myself. Still difficult to talk about it, so I don’t. Someone said to leave people like me alone and the loud army went somewhere else.

I come from a small town in Arizona, close to the southern border. I see way too many people clueless about immigration. Politicians, even in this state, who are making hay over the border to get v**es. Still clueless in their rhetoric.

I’m no longer a Trump supporter due to being lied to. I researched quite deep and went back a few times because I couldn’t believe it. I refuse to believe another “Gulf of Tonkin” (too many don’t know what I’m talking about, shame).

I don’t think we want a U.S. civil war over politics. The problem is how do WE get the t***h? I remember Nixon and I do know now, Trump is “the man” now so “find” this “Deep State” and expose it. I hear talk but really don’t see anything but hype. Is there “Anyone” who thinks our Government would tell us if they knew a huge Meteor was coming? How about any other disaster? Why is the press not allowed in FEMA camps? How am I ever going to find out what’s going on there? We don’t have freedom now and that’s a big problem. So keep your “facial recognition” computer software until I find it. My loyalty is to the t***h as an absolute!
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump su... (show quote)




"I’m no longer a Trump supporter due to being lied to"... me too buddy.

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Jul 24, 2018 15:05:00   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Cripple wrote:
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump supporter? Where did this come from?

My neighbor and I have many interesting debates. She is an intelligent person, though I would never tell her that. I’m all in for a good debate but this screaming upset, belittling comments, all the huff-n-puff are clear signs of some stupid people (well I think so).

I’ve already been the target of the same people I use to claim allegiance. I was called “an unnecessary financial drain on U.S. society.” due to being a former U.S. Marine in Vietnam. Yes, I was given tin, close to some fine U.S. citizens die in that godforsaken country. Now V.A. meds in the mail often and condemned to a wheelchair. So I don’t even try to explain to her how horrendous it is in actual combat. Saw some awful terrible things over-there, did some awful things there myself. Still difficult to talk about it, so I don’t. Someone said to leave people like me alone and the loud army went somewhere else.

I come from a small town in Arizona, close to the southern border. I see way too many people clueless about immigration. Politicians, even in this state, who are making hay over the border to get v**es. Still clueless in their rhetoric.

I’m no longer a Trump supporter due to being lied to. I researched quite deep and went back a few times because I couldn’t believe it. I refuse to believe another “Gulf of Tonkin” (too many don’t know what I’m talking about, shame).

I don’t think we want a U.S. civil war over politics. The problem is how do WE get the t***h? I remember Nixon and I do know now, Trump is “the man” now so “find” this “Deep State” and expose it. I hear talk but really don’t see anything but hype. Is there “Anyone” who thinks our Government would tell us if they knew a huge Meteor was coming? How about any other disaster? Why is the press not allowed in FEMA camps? How am I ever going to find out what’s going on there? We don’t have freedom now and that’s a big problem. So keep your “facial recognition” computer software until I find it. My loyalty is to the t***h as an absolute!
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump su... (show quote)

SEMPER FI, BROTHER I read you, loud and clear.

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Jul 24, 2018 15:57:38   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Cripple wrote:
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump supporter? Where did this come from?

My neighbor and I have many interesting debates. She is an intelligent person, though I would never tell her that. I’m all in for a good debate but this screaming upset, belittling comments, all the huff-n-puff are clear signs of some stupid people (well I think so).

I’ve already been the target of the same people I use to claim allegiance. I was called “an unnecessary financial drain on U.S. society.” due to being a former U.S. Marine in Vietnam. Yes, I was given tin, close to some fine U.S. citizens die in that godforsaken country. Now V.A. meds in the mail often and condemned to a wheelchair. So I don’t even try to explain to her how horrendous it is in actual combat. Saw some awful terrible things over-there, did some awful things there myself. Still difficult to talk about it, so I don’t. Someone said to leave people like me alone and the loud army went somewhere else.

I come from a small town in Arizona, close to the southern border. I see way too many people clueless about immigration. Politicians, even in this state, who are making hay over the border to get v**es. Still clueless in their rhetoric.

I’m no longer a Trump supporter due to being lied to. I researched quite deep and went back a few times because I couldn’t believe it. I refuse to believe another “Gulf of Tonkin” (too many don’t know what I’m talking about, shame).

I don’t think we want a U.S. civil war over politics. The problem is how do WE get the t***h? I remember Nixon and I do know now, Trump is “the man” now so “find” this “Deep State” and expose it. I hear talk but really don’t see anything but hype. Is there “Anyone” who thinks our Government would tell us if they knew a huge Meteor was coming? How about any other disaster? Why is the press not allowed in FEMA camps? How am I ever going to find out what’s going on there? We don’t have freedom now and that’s a big problem. So keep your “facial recognition” computer software until I find it. My loyalty is to the t***h as an absolute!
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump su... (show quote)


Being lied to is a fact of life, not an enjoyable or enviable fact, but a fact none the less. That doesn't excuse giving up and the accepting lies as t***h, or picking which lies one likes and going with it, nor does it make lying acceptable in any way. What I meant by stating that lying is a fact, is that lying is so prevalent, that t***h is a rare commodity - and requires a LOT of work to uncover.

People are essentially lazy, if their ain't no app for separating the t***h from the lies, they'll just pick wh**ever lie fits their fancy and they're done for the day. People get highly emotional when questioned about their "beliefs", because somewhere in their minds, they know they've accepted a lie as t***h - and don't want to face it. What I can't figure out is; people will expend more energy and effort trying to justify believing a lie...........................than they would have had they searched for the t***h in the first place.

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Jul 24, 2018 16:31:39   #
emarine
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Being lied to is a fact of life, not an enjoyable or enviable fact, but a fact none the less. That doesn't excuse giving up and the accepting lies as t***h, or picking which lies one likes and going with it, nor does it make lying acceptable in any way. What I meant by stating that lying is a fact, is that lying is so prevalent, that t***h is a rare commodity - and requires a LOT of work to uncover.

People are essentially lazy, if their ain't no app for separating the t***h from the lies, they'll just pick wh**ever lie fits their fancy and they're done for the day. People get highly emotional when questioned about their "beliefs", because somewhere in their minds, they know they've accepted a lie as t***h - and don't want to face it. What I can't figure out is; people will expend more energy and effort trying to justify believing a lie...........................than they would have had they searched for the t***h in the first place.
Being lied to is a fact of life, not an enjoyable ... (show quote)



The problem in America is that most good people want to believe & most bad people want to deceive & that's why they're wealthy & in a position of power over good people...

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Jul 24, 2018 18:47:39   #
bobebgtime Loc: Virginia
 
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Cripple wrote:
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump supporter? Where did this come from?

My neighbor and I have many interesting debates. She is an intelligent person, though I would never tell her that. I’m all in for a good debate but this screaming upset, belittling comments, all the huff-n-puff are clear signs of some stupid people (well I think so).

I’ve already been the target of the same people I use to claim allegiance. I was called “an unnecessary financial drain on U.S. society.” due to being a former U.S. Marine in Vietnam. Yes, I was given tin, close to some fine U.S. citizens die in that godforsaken country. Now V.A. meds in the mail often and condemned to a wheelchair. So I don’t even try to explain to her how horrendous it is in actual combat. Saw some awful terrible things over-there, did some awful things there myself. Still difficult to talk about it, so I don’t. Someone said to leave people like me alone and the loud army went somewhere else.
I come from a small town in Arizona, close to the southern border. I see way too many people clueless about immigration. Politicians, even in this state, who are making hay over the border to get v**es. Still clueless in their rhetoric.


I find it hard to comprehend that you’re so adolescent and delusional to think a politician wouldn’t lie. If your looking for an honest one, good luck.

I’m no longer a Trump supporter due to being lied to. I researched quite deep and went back a few times because I couldn’t believe it. I refuse to believe another “Gulf of Tonkin” (too many don’t know what I’m talking about, shame).

I don’t think we want a U.S. civil war over politics. The problem is how do WE get the t***h? I remember Nixon and I do know now, Trump is “the man” now so “find” this “Deep State” and expose it. I hear talk but really don’t see anything but hype. Is there “Anyone” who thinks our Government would tell us if they knew a huge Meteor was coming? How about any other disaster? Why is the press not allowed in FEMA camps? How am I ever going to find out what’s going on there? We don’t have freedom now and that’s a big problem. So keep your “facial recognition” computer software until I find it. My loyalty is to the t***h as an absolute!
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump su... (show quote)

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Jul 24, 2018 18:51:03   #
bobebgtime Loc: Virginia
 
Cripple wrote:
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump supporter? Where did this come from?

My neighbor and I have many interesting debates. She is an intelligent person, though I would never tell her that. I’m all in for a good debate but this screaming upset, belittling comments, all the huff-n-puff are clear signs of some stupid people (well I think so).

I’ve already been the target of the same people I use to claim allegiance. I was called “an unnecessary financial drain on U.S. society.” due to being a former U.S. Marine in Vietnam. Yes, I was given tin, close to some fine U.S. citizens die in that godforsaken country. Now V.A. meds in the mail often and condemned to a wheelchair. So I don’t even try to explain to her how horrendous it is in actual combat. Saw some awful terrible things over-there, did some awful things there myself. Still difficult to talk about it, so I don’t. Someone said to leave people like me alone and the loud army went somewhere else.

I come from a small town in Arizona, close to the southern border. I see way too many people clueless about immigration. Politicians, even in this state, who are making hay over the border to get v**es. Still clueless in their rhetoric.

I’m no longer a Trump supporter due to being lied to. I researched quite deep and went back a few times because I couldn’t believe it. I refuse to believe another “Gulf of Tonkin” (too many don’t know what I’m talking about, shame).

I don’t think we want a U.S. civil war over politics. The problem is how do WE get the t***h? I remember Nixon and I do know now, Trump is “the man” now so “find” this “Deep State” and expose it. I hear talk but really don’t see anything but hype. Is there “Anyone” who thinks our Government would tell us if they knew a huge Meteor was coming? How about any other disaster? Why is the press not allowed in FEMA camps? How am I ever going to find out what’s going on there? We don’t have freedom now and that’s a big problem. So keep your “facial recognition” computer software until I find it. My loyalty is to the t***h as an absolute!
Don’t even waste your time arguing with a Trump su... (show quote)


I find it hard to comprehend that you’re so adolescent and delusional to think a politician wouldn’t lie. If you should try to find an honest politician, good luck.

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Jul 25, 2018 05:57:23   #
Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD
 
bggamers wrote:
Of course the goverment wont tell u any thing because your a poor clueless person who couldnt handle the TRAMA and u put millions of trama clueless i***ts running around causing mayhem well it upsets goverment types and you get in the way of them sneaking off to their secret bunkers where they can live unharmed for who knows how long. Why u ask do they get these fancey bunker WELL WE pay for it. And being the clueless i***ts that we are we let them. The people you and I grew up with 40/50/60 were much smarter they built their own shelters and a lot are waking up now and doing the same. So if you fear a nuke or what ever diaster u can think of build a shelter. Me I'm to old and I guess I'll just wait and see if its the big one. No insult intended to u this is just my answer to your post

Of course the goverment wont tell u any thing beca... (show quote)


Shame on you calling a veteran a "poor clueless person"! You might want to learn some grammar and proper spelling before putting on airs!

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Jul 25, 2018 13:15:00   #
Cripple
 
Oooo raaahh!

Lonewolf wrote:
Semper Fi

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Jul 25, 2018 13:19:06   #
Cripple
 
I could not agree with you more!
I found you, bggamers. Question for people like us, How do you think people would respond IF this "Deep State" was exposed? If someone would say "Don't get excited, especially to the point to be violent. You have the right to protest & address grievances to your govt. Just make sure you do so in a peaceful way!

What do you think?

bggamers wrote:
Of course the goverment wont tell u any thing because your a poor clueless person who couldnt handle the TRAMA and u put millions of trama clueless i***ts running around causing mayhem well it upsets goverment types and you get in the way of them sneaking off to their secret bunkers where they can live unharmed for who knows how long. Why u ask do they get these fancey bunker WELL WE pay for it. And being the clueless i***ts that we are we let them. The people you and I grew up with 40/50/60 were much smarter they built their own shelters and a lot are waking up now and doing the same. So if you fear a nuke or what ever diaster u can think of build a shelter. Me I'm to old and I guess I'll just wait and see if its the big one. No insult intended to u this is just my answer to your post

Of course the goverment wont tell u any thing beca... (show quote)

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Jul 25, 2018 13:36:14   #
Cripple
 
"witless" & "son of witless", Thanks for bringing a smile to my face! I guess I have the same sense of humor calling myself "cripple".

No, I did not support Trump when he was part of the field, I liked Ben Carson. Then T***p w*n the Repb. primary I started to pay attention to him not putting much weight to the "birther" stuff. Trump announced Obama was (& has been) a U.S. citizen. That started me to think. I went ahead and v**ed for him but remember I live in Arizona, I could have stayed home without making any difference. I'm just not the type to stay home on v****g day. If my v**e counts or not I still v**e.

I actually researched the easy one, the size of the crowd on his January installation. He lied the video was too easy to find. I started to research a bit deeper. I tell you it is difficult to establish credibility of whoever writes. I really stay away from the "Bob's Blog" type, a person's blog where they rant. I want to see footnotes when I research and writings today just don't do that often, rare in-fact. I do believe in this Russia compliance thing. I still don't know the difference between "fabricated" evidence and factual evidence, (Mr. Smith Goes to Washington) so I look at DECEIT and there is so much out there using Deceit. Mostly, I see "Lies of Omission" where I call them "entertainment" rather than "f**e news".

So to answer your question honestly, my doubt started the day Trump made his installation speech. That is the day I stopped supporting Trump.
Remember when he said the I.G. report complete exonerates him? So I read the whole I.G. report and no such conclusion exists in that document. Want a copy? I can and will easily attach. Please keep in-mind that I had a program that allowed me to make marks on the report then one day I couldn't make any notations. You'll see the notes I was making not part of the document.

son of witless wrote:
" I’m no longer a Trump supporter due to being lied to. "

How long were you a Trump Supporter ?

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Jul 25, 2018 13:37:32   #
Cripple
 
Thanks

emarine wrote:
"I’m no longer a Trump supporter due to being lied to"... me too buddy.

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