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Jul 23, 2018 15:27:56   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
I am going to post a commentary written by a Tim Palmer in a New Jersey(not so big paper).
we happen to know each other from a different kind of Fora as well as shared life events.
I know that Tim is a Republican(who else gets upset about their former Gov.)?
that said he even shares my views as a Constitutional Moderate and we know moderates
do not get a second thought for wanting to do what's right for the 'right' reasons?

Now the article,please try to refrain from shooting the messenger since I'm just sharing what is already out there and likely has merit.
I see the logic being constitutional driven as well as moderate.it just well kinda makes sense.

The irony of Donald Trump’s now-inevitable downfall is that the more egregious and grotesque his behavior becomes, the more quickly he’ll be ousted. His treasonous words during his summit with Vladimir Putin on Monday represented one of the ugliest moments in American history. But it also made it easier for the Resistance to take him down, because it shifted mainstream public opinion against him, and helped crystallize him as a t*****rous Russian puppet. Now Trump has just handed the Resistance another major victory.

Donald Trump floated the idea yesterday of bringing Vladimir Putin to the White House this fall. It was such a ludicrous proposal that when Trump’s own Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats was told about it during an on-camera interview, he laughed sarcastically in disgust. Even Trump’s own people have had enough of this crap. Take a moment to think about how this latest debacle is going to play in the eyes of the American public.

Trump’s fate will never, ever, ever be decided by his own core base. They’re roughly 15% to 20% of the country, and they’re not large enough to keep him propped up on their own. His approval rating is roughly twice that large, thanks to his non-base supporters who have never loved him, but just haven’t been ready to give up on him. They’ve long heard accusations that he’s a Russian asset, and they’ve heard his assertions that it’s f**e news. They’ve been waiting for confirmation one way or the other before deciding whether to give up on him.

These types have spent all week hearing every major news outlet – even Fox News – call out Donald Trump for his treasonous performance at that Putin press conference. They know full well now that something isn’t right. They’ve also seen Trump change his story several times as the week has gone on, a clear indication that he’s hiding something. And now, with all corners accusing Trump of being a Putin-loyal t*****r, Trump is responding by saying he wants to bring Putin to the White House. Trump just did a huge favor to those trying to oust him.THIS is Not ''f**e news''

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Jul 23, 2018 15:37:17   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
I suppose the writer of the article would rather have an establishment person as President so they would act and talk in ways to their liking in others words mouth off BS .

Look what we got with all the limp wrist leaders we've had and have gotten I personally I like Trump and what he has accomplished thus far !

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Jul 23, 2018 15:46:28   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
tactful wrote:
I am going to post a commentary written by a Tim Palmer in a New Jersey(not so big paper).
we happen to know each other from a different kind of Fora as well as shared life events.
I know that Tim is a Republican(who else gets upset about their former Gov.)?
that said he even shares my views as a Constitutional Moderate and we know moderates
do not get a second thought for wanting to do what's right for the 'right' reasons?

Now the article,please try to refrain from shooting the messenger since I'm just sharing what is already out there and likely has merit.
I see the logic being constitutional driven as well as moderate.it just well kinda makes sense.

The irony of Donald Trump’s now-inevitable downfall is that the more egregious and grotesque his behavior becomes, the more quickly he’ll be ousted. His treasonous words during his summit with Vladimir Putin on Monday represented one of the ugliest moments in American history. But it also made it easier for the Resistance to take him down, because it shifted mainstream public opinion against him, and helped crystallize him as a t*****rous Russian puppet. Now Trump has just handed the Resistance another major victory.

Donald Trump floated the idea yesterday of bringing Vladimir Putin to the White House this fall. It was such a ludicrous proposal that when Trump’s own Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats was told about it during an on-camera interview, he laughed sarcastically in disgust. Even Trump’s own people have had enough of this crap. Take a moment to think about how this latest debacle is going to play in the eyes of the American public.

Trump’s fate will never, ever, ever be decided by his own core base. They’re roughly 15% to 20% of the country, and they’re not large enough to keep him propped up on their own. His approval rating is roughly twice that large, thanks to his non-base supporters who have never loved him, but just haven’t been ready to give up on him. They’ve long heard accusations that he’s a Russian asset, and they’ve heard his assertions that it’s f**e news. They’ve been waiting for confirmation one way or the other before deciding whether to give up on him.

These types have spent all week hearing every major news outlet – even Fox News – call out Donald Trump for his treasonous performance at that Putin press conference. They know full well now that something isn’t right. They’ve also seen Trump change his story several times as the week has gone on, a clear indication that he’s hiding something. And now, with all corners accusing Trump of being a Putin-loyal t*****r, Trump is responding by saying he wants to bring Putin to the White House. Trump just did a huge favor to those trying to oust him.THIS is Not ''f**e news''
I am going to post a commentary written by a Tim P... (show quote)

"No man ever went broke overestimating the ignorance of the American public."

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Jul 23, 2018 16:14:36   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
tactful wrote:
I am going to post a commentary written by a Tim Palmer in a New Jersey(not so big paper).
we happen to know each other from a different kind of Fora as well as shared life events.
I know that Tim is a Republican(who else gets upset about their former Gov.)?
that said he even shares my views as a Constitutional Moderate and we know moderates
do not get a second thought for wanting to do what's right for the 'right' reasons?

Now the article,please try to refrain from shooting the messenger since I'm just sharing what is already out there and likely has merit.
I see the logic being constitutional driven as well as moderate.it just well kinda makes sense.

The irony of Donald Trump’s now-inevitable downfall is that the more egregious and grotesque his behavior becomes, the more quickly he’ll be ousted. His treasonous words during his summit with Vladimir Putin on Monday represented one of the ugliest moments in American history. But it also made it easier for the Resistance to take him down, because it shifted mainstream public opinion against him, and helped crystallize him as a t*****rous Russian puppet. Now Trump has just handed the Resistance another major victory.

Donald Trump floated the idea yesterday of bringing Vladimir Putin to the White House this fall. It was such a ludicrous proposal that when Trump’s own Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats was told about it during an on-camera interview, he laughed sarcastically in disgust. Even Trump’s own people have had enough of this crap. Take a moment to think about how this latest debacle is going to play in the eyes of the American public.

Trump’s fate will never, ever, ever be decided by his own core base. They’re roughly 15% to 20% of the country, and they’re not large enough to keep him propped up on their own. His approval rating is roughly twice that large, thanks to his non-base supporters who have never loved him, but just haven’t been ready to give up on him. They’ve long heard accusations that he’s a Russian asset, and they’ve heard his assertions that it’s f**e news. They’ve been waiting for confirmation one way or the other before deciding whether to give up on him.

These types have spent all week hearing every major news outlet – even Fox News – call out Donald Trump for his treasonous performance at that Putin press conference. They know full well now that something isn’t right. They’ve also seen Trump change his story several times as the week has gone on, a clear indication that he’s hiding something. And now, with all corners accusing Trump of being a Putin-loyal t*****r, Trump is responding by saying he wants to bring Putin to the White House. Trump just did a huge favor to those trying to oust him.THIS is Not ''f**e news''
I am going to post a commentary written by a Tim P... (show quote)


This is what you think is a Constitutional Moderate? More aptly characterized as a flaming l*****t, foaming at the mouth with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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Jul 23, 2018 16:16:59   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
4430 wrote:
I suppose the writer of the article would rather have an establishment person as President so they would act and talk in ways to their liking in others words mouth off BS .

Look what we got with all the limp wrist leaders we've had and have gotten I personally I like Trump and what he has accomplished thus far !


from what I've been able to gather someone that acts p**********l and has morals that does not cause division of Americans on any level would work For the people,by the people(remember that quip)?
agreed the country was taken for a ride big time far too long.I don't care for DJT mainly because
thanks to his tax s**m they/GOP hurt me and a lot of others,cut insurance(no it wasn't perfect by any stretch) But was a foundation to build on instead of remove and Not replace(have often wondered why not just fix instead)?oops sorry that's logical and not allowed here? but the venues and ventures I would have liked to take;one they've closed(s**m related),the other has been made nearly impossible.

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Jul 23, 2018 16:30:37   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
tactful wrote:
from what I've been able to gather someone that acts p**********l and has morals that does not cause division of Americans on any level would work For the people,by the people(remember that quip)?
agreed the country was taken for a ride big time far too long.I don't care for DJT mainly because
thanks to his tax s**m they/GOP hurt me and a lot of others,cut insurance(no it wasn't perfect by any stretch) But was a foundation to build on instead of remove and Not replace(have often wondered why not just fix instead)?oops sorry that's logical and not allowed here? but the venues and ventures I would have liked to take;one they've closed(s**m related),the other has been made nearly impossible.
from what I've been able to gather someone that ac... (show quote)


Che dici?

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Jul 23, 2018 16:33:09   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
pafret wrote:
This is what you think is a Constitutional Moderate? More aptly characterized as a flaming l*****t, foaming at the mouth with Trump Derangement Syndrome.


it is not what I think.never has been.please read the eight point definition of a Constitutional Moderate?it's not left nor right,perhaps closer to Centrist or Libertarian.
those eight points or views are what I believe and I'm not alone if you read them.
I accepted what happened when it did.it is whats gone on since that raises questions.
plain and simple

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Jul 23, 2018 16:44:37   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
pafret wrote:
Che dici?


so Italian instead of English? whoop de do
don't care you may not like me.that's ok! there's no popularity contest going on I'm aware of.
good music and play of the same name just not my forte.

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Jul 23, 2018 16:45:36   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
slatten49 wrote:
"No man ever went broke overestimating the ignorance of the American public."


True story!

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Jul 23, 2018 17:14:14   #
glibona Loc: Nevada
 
tactful wrote:
so Italian instead of English? whoop de do


Isn't that what pelosi said, whoop de do, another Italian?
Lol

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Jul 23, 2018 17:19:43   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
glibona wrote:
Isn't that what pelosi said, whoop de do, another Italian?
Lol


wouldn't know about either but if you say so.

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Jul 23, 2018 17:28:46   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
tactful wrote:
I am going to post a commentary written by a Tim Palmer in a New Jersey(not so big paper).
we happen to know each other from a different kind of Fora as well as shared life events.
I know that Tim is a Republican(who else gets upset about their former Gov.)?
that said he even shares my views as a Constitutional Moderate and we know moderates
do not get a second thought for wanting to do what's right for the 'right' reasons?

Now the article,please try to refrain from shooting the messenger since I'm just sharing what is already out there and likely has merit.
I see the logic being constitutional driven as well as moderate.it just well kinda makes sense.

The irony of Donald Trump’s now-inevitable downfall is that the more egregious and grotesque his behavior becomes, the more quickly he’ll be ousted. His treasonous words during his summit with Vladimir Putin on Monday represented one of the ugliest moments in American history. But it also made it easier for the Resistance to take him down, because it shifted mainstream public opinion against him, and helped crystallize him as a t*****rous Russian puppet. Now Trump has just handed the Resistance another major victory.

Donald Trump floated the idea yesterday of bringing Vladimir Putin to the White House this fall. It was such a ludicrous proposal that when Trump’s own Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats was told about it during an on-camera interview, he laughed sarcastically in disgust. Even Trump’s own people have had enough of this crap. Take a moment to think about how this latest debacle is going to play in the eyes of the American public.

Trump’s fate will never, ever, ever be decided by his own core base. They’re roughly 15% to 20% of the country, and they’re not large enough to keep him propped up on their own. His approval rating is roughly twice that large, thanks to his non-base supporters who have never loved him, but just haven’t been ready to give up on him. They’ve long heard accusations that he’s a Russian asset, and they’ve heard his assertions that it’s f**e news. They’ve been waiting for confirmation one way or the other before deciding whether to give up on him.

These types have spent all week hearing every major news outlet – even Fox News – call out Donald Trump for his treasonous performance at that Putin press conference. They know full well now that something isn’t right. They’ve also seen Trump change his story several times as the week has gone on, a clear indication that he’s hiding something. And now, with all corners accusing Trump of being a Putin-loyal t*****r, Trump is responding by saying he wants to bring Putin to the White House. Trump just did a huge favor to those trying to oust him.THIS is Not ''f**e news''
I am going to post a commentary written by a Tim P... (show quote)

though you claim to be a moderate
you sound more like a far l*****t

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Jul 23, 2018 17:45:20   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
badbobby wrote:
though you claim to be a moderate
you sound more like a far l*****t


heard that before was kind of expecting it.
This is what gives for the last time.find fault. no one can take a dream away.
8 points I stand by. have a nice day.

eral and conservative have not only lost meaning, but have been situationally and selectively defined to use as pejoratives by the elite media.

The term Constitutional Moderate is intended to accurately define a certain point of view.

Constitutional Moderates believe:

1 – Government has a proper limited collective role in society, but in that role people should manage government, government should not manage the people.

2 – Office holders should recognize and respect the limits of the office, work within the boundaries of their charter, and not exist for the purpose of expanding their power and influence.

3 – The trajectory of government should not be to always expand its power at the expense of the people and the economy. Mega-corporations and government should not become one.

4 – Taxes should be more proportional and fair. Taxes and regulations should not be used in such a way to pick winners and losers, promote cronyism, stifle competition, etc.

5 – Taxes should be visible and not hidden.

6 – A limited social safety-net is tolerable. For those with sound mind and body it should be a step up, not a hammock. For those who are disabled and have genuine need it should not amount to barely sustainable misery. Economic growth, real creation of wealth and a stable currency are needed so as to afford the safety-net as painlessly as possible.

7 – While some debt is tolerable, excessive debt impairs our global influence and creates instability.

8 – Government needs new checks and balances to help restrain and address these problems.

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Jul 23, 2018 18:02:06   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
tactful wrote:
it is not what I think.never has been.please read the eight point definition of a Constitutional Moderate?it's not left nor right,perhaps closer to Centrist or Libertarian.
those eight points or views are what I believe and I'm not alone if you read them.
I accepted what happened when it did.it is whats gone on since that raises questions.
plain and simple


The government has no business in health Ins as we now see thanks to Obama and the Democrats !

There are reforms taken that could have made it better like all Ins Companies could sell across state lines is one for starters .

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Jul 23, 2018 19:00:01   #
moldyoldy
 
Trumps supporters do not care, all he had to do was say he said one word wrong and all his detractors on the right were singing his praises again. It did not matter that he had repeated his original words several times.

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