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Jul 25, 2018 21:45:34   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
maximus wrote:
We ain't losing jobs, we're gaining them. The 'free press' is a joke. Trump attacks only f**e news. The justice department has become rotten at the top. We have radicals staging the president's assassination, holding up his bloody head, blowing up the White House, etc. B****s and Latinos face historic employment. Let's cut to the chase...NONE of what you say is true. I don't attack you, my friend, you have the right to your own opinion, but I do attack your ideology. When you make statements about your beliefs, you should be able to quote supporting facts. Where are your supporting facts. Did you get them from MSM? Who has been proven over and over again to be not only biased, but outright liars?
Yes, we are divided for sure, but it is the liberals (Democrats) who have detached themselves from the backbone of America. You never cease to attack conservatives and yet you are wounded because we return the favor.
Feeling great yet? I do!
We ain't losing jobs, we're gaining them. The 'fre... (show quote)
Prove that none of what I say is true. Is there not an attack going on the free press (f**e News) and an attack on the department of justice. ( Rod Rosenstien has had atricale of impeachment filed on him). I personally buy a lot of building materials and the prices have increased because of tarriffs. I do not see my concerns as attacks on Conservatives.

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Jul 25, 2018 22:05:11   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Prove that none of what I say is true. Is there not an attack going on the free press (f**e News) and an attack on the department of justice. ( Rod Rosenstien has had atricale of impeachment filed on him). I personally buy a lot of building materials and the prices have increased because of tarriffs. I do not see my concerns as attacks on Conservatives.


Why so over the top? Free press? Use common sense. The owners of the Washington Post, New York Times, and CNN (to name a few) have publicly stated they despise Trump. 90% of their coverage about Trump is negative. That’s not free, it’s biased, verging on propaganda. The department of justice has been politicized. Just look at the law. There’s no way Rosenstein should be acting AG right now involving the Mueller investigation. He is a potential witness. Not an attack, just law. He should be impeached. I’m glad you have a job, I will pay more, gladly if it keeps more jobs in America. I don’t like tariffs but we have been the worlds piggy bank with our unfair trade deals. How would you remedy that situation? Congress won’t. Those clowns sold out a long time ago to world wide corporations.

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Jul 26, 2018 03:45:31   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
JRumeryjr wrote:
Donnie's 'f**e news' is anything that he doesn't approve of!

Merriam Webster dictionary definition of f**e;
f**e
adjective
Definition of f**e for English Language Learners

: not true or real : meant to look real or genuine but not real or genuine

The 'f**e news' channels, CNN and all the rest, are PROVEN time and time again to twist Trumps words or just make stuff up about POTUS. How many times does the MSM have to be called out for outright lying before you question the rhetoric? 10...50...1000...How many before you realize you're being lied to? Maybe never?
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Jul 26, 2018 04:32:42   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Prove that none of what I say is true. Is there not an attack going on the free press (f**e News) and an attack on the department of justice. ( Rod Rosenstien has had atricale of impeachment filed on him). I personally buy a lot of building materials and the prices have increased because of tarriffs. I do not see my concerns as attacks on Conservatives.


OK Lets see...I keep saying this....how many times must the 'free press' be called out as liars...PROVEN liars...before people like you see it? MSM is worse that Youtube ever was, and now Youtube has become the source of REAL trusted news ( you have to pick your source). Rosenstein is a criminal being guilty of using his office to further his own political agenda, namely that of the Obama/Clintons. I'm not going to quote sources, it's all over the place.
Tariffs hurt a little right now, until things settle down ( and they will settle down), so do you put cheap prices on cheap goods ahead of what's good for the country. Most of what comes out of China and the other Asian countries is JUNK. PURE JUNK. It's so cheap that most people don't complain when their cheap items break down or never work to start with. Yet we buy cheap foreign cars while if one of THEIR citizens wants to buy an American car, there is a 25% tariff on it.
I will gladly suffer for the good of my country to get fair trade deals with other countries we're probably keeping up anyway. America used to be the bangingest country on earth and she will be again.

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Jul 26, 2018 06:38:07   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
JFlorio wrote:
Why so over the top? Free press? Use common sense. The owners of the Washington Post, New York Times, and CNN (to name a few) have publicly stated they despise Trump. 90% of their coverage about Trump is negative. That’s not free, it’s biased, verging on propaganda. The department of justice has been politicized. Just look at the law. There’s no way Rosenstein should be acting AG right now involving the Mueller investigation. He is a potential witness. Not an attack, just law. He should be impeached. I’m glad you have a job, I will pay more, gladly if it keeps more jobs in America. I don’t like tariffs but we have been the worlds piggy bank with our unfair trade deals. How would you remedy that situation? Congress won’t. Those clowns sold out a long time ago to world wide corporations.
Why so over the top? Free press? Use common sense.... (show quote)
Thanks for your input here . I see there are more sides than just one. I remember when the USA made the things the world bought. The world caught up with us and we started buying the things they made because we are bargain h****rs. Do we go full protectionist and halt all imports ? Can we make trade deals with countrys gauaranteeing that they match us dollar for dollar in trade ? I have thought about it and conclude we are a nation of consumers with less buying power than our previous generations and so bargains must be availiable. Trade with other nations is essential. Perhaps elimination of all tarrifffs among our trading partners would be a good thing and with a quota system in place so we don't import to such an excess that we buy a huge percentage of a nations products whilst they buy just a fraction from us. Just an idea not a suggestion if there is a better way. The only good thing I see about the trade war so far is that it has gotten the worlds attention. We better all get together soon though before the financial damage inflicted by it turns into a recession. Just sayin' .

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Jul 26, 2018 08:37:37   #
sisboombaa
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Thanks for your input here . I see there are more sides than just one. I remember when the USA made the things the world bought. The world caught up with us and we started buying the things they made because we are bargain h****rs. Do we go full protectionist and halt all imports ? Can we make trade deals with countrys gauaranteeing that they match us dollar for dollar in trade ? I have thought about it and conclude we are a nation of consumers with less buying power than our previous generations and so bargains must be availiable. Trade with other nations is essential. Perhaps elimination of all tarrifffs among our trading partners would be a good thing and with a quota system in place so we don't import to such an excess that we buy a huge percentage of a nations products whilst they buy just a fraction from us. Just an idea not a suggestion if there is a better way. The only good thing I see about the trade war so far is that it has gotten the worlds attention. We better all get together soon though before the financial damage inflicted by it turns into a recession. Just sayin' .
Thanks for your input here . I see there are more ... (show quote)


Coos Bay Tom, it's good to see you using your noggin for more than a hat rack. You obviously know that there are at least two sides to every issue, pros and cons to every plan and you are therefore reasoning with an open mind. Please continue doing so as It will benefit not only you but all of us.

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Jul 26, 2018 10:21:41   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
sisboombaa wrote:
Coos Bay Tom, it's good to see you using your noggin for more than a hat rack. You obviously know that there are at least two sides to every issue, pros and cons to every plan and you are therefore reasoning with an open mind. Please continue doing so as It will benefit not only you but all of us.



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Jul 26, 2018 15:29:30   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Thanks for your input here . I see there are more sides than just one. I remember when the USA made the things the world bought. The world caught up with us and we started buying the things they made because we are bargain h****rs. Do we go full protectionist and halt all imports ? Can we make trade deals with countrys gauaranteeing that they match us dollar for dollar in trade ? I have thought about it and conclude we are a nation of consumers with less buying power than our previous generations and so bargains must be availiable. Trade with other nations is essential. Perhaps elimination of all tarrifffs among our trading partners would be a good thing and with a quota system in place so we don't import to such an excess that we buy a huge percentage of a nations products whilst they buy just a fraction from us. Just an idea not a suggestion if there is a better way. The only good thing I see about the trade war so far is that it has gotten the worlds attention. We better all get together soon though before the financial damage inflicted by it turns into a recession. Just sayin' .
Thanks for your input here . I see there are more ... (show quote)


I respectfully disagree that the rest of the world caught up with us. The American businessman went overseas for cheap labor and nothing more. Mo money...mo money...mo money!!! Doesn't this sound ironic? An American company...moves it's operation to Thailand...still sells a product that is now foreign made...with diminished quality..for the same price even though it now costs only 1/8 to get produced of what it did in America. Pure greed and nothing else. How could the Mexicans get into our job market so easily? They would happily work for 1/2 or less, that's how. Illegal or not, didn't matter...they were cheap.
A quota system requires a new 'system' and we are already systemed to death in this country, whereas slap a tariff on foreign goods until they back down. Of course other countries are upset right now, the tariffs are a new thing to them. Tariffs just need some time to work as intended. In case you didn't know, foreign car parts have had a steep import fee or tariff for years, making them VERY expensive.
Countries like China can well afford to give us a much more amicable trade agreement, we just have to make them do it.

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Jul 26, 2018 15:44:03   #
Lonewolf
 
something I thought of years ago if you make your product overseas sell it over there it's not allowed back in this country.

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Jul 26, 2018 15:53:14   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Lonewolf wrote:
something I thought of years ago if you make your product overseas sell it over there it's not allowed back in this country.


I've thought of that too, but how about this...if your company is in a foreign country, then you have to live in that country to do business in America.
Another one is pay a foreign worker tax.

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Jul 26, 2018 15:54:30   #
Lonewolf
 
all our ideas are better than tariffs



maximus wrote:
I've thought of that too, but how about this...if your company is in a foreign country, then you have to live in that country to do business in America.
Another one is pay a foreign worker tax.

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Jul 27, 2018 00:22:47   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Lonewolf wrote:
something I thought of years ago if you make your product overseas sell it over there it's not allowed back in this country.



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Jul 27, 2018 00:23:59   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
maximus wrote:
I've thought of that too, but how about this...if your company is in a foreign country, then you have to live in that country to do business in America.
Another one is pay a foreign worker tax.



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