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Jul 20, 2018 01:00:26   #
kemmer
 
Blade_Runner wrote:


How about we take a look at a real c****e plant?

...or a potential one, Trump, for example.

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Jul 20, 2018 01:01:25   #
Radiance3
 
woodguru wrote:
Trump doesn't even know what nuclear proliferation is, he would like to double the nukes we have.


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I think you are really CRAZY!!

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Jul 20, 2018 01:04:15   #
Radiance3
 
kemmer wrote:
Putin knows the only way Russia will advance in the world is for Russia to destroy or fatally weaken the US. And that's what Putin is doing through his vassal Trump.

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I think you are another CRAZY LIBERAL!!

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Jul 20, 2018 01:05:35   #
EconomistDon
 
woodguru wrote:
Nobody wants that, but a country using cyber warfare to undermine our democracy and potentially is putting our infrastructure at risk they are our enemy whether we want that or not.

Being nice about what they are doing and wanting to call them our friends does not change their actions making them our enemy.

We cannot change the fact that Russia is run by a dictator and is undermining democracy around the world including our country.

Anyone finding themselves being supportive of Russia and Putin is embracing something else besides democracy.
Nobody wants that, but a country using cyber warfa... (show quote)


I don't believe that Russian interference had any impact on the e******n. It certainly had far less impact than millions of i*****l a***n v**ers, v****g machine fraud, and dishonest left-wing media. All this hoopla is more about hatred toward Trump and making excuses for Hillary's loss than it is about anger over Russian interference. If somebody is throwing rocks at you, you don't just say "stop it". You defend yourself. If America put as much effort into improving security and firewalls, this wouldn't be a problem. We need to stop whining, and defend our data systems. Shields up!!!!!!!

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Jul 20, 2018 01:10:29   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
kemmer wrote:
...or a potential one, Trump, for example.
In your dreams, alfie, in your dreams.

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Jul 20, 2018 01:18:08   #
debeda
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Gus Hall (nee Arvo Kustaa Halberg) was the leader and chairman of the C*******t Party USA. Hall grew up in a C*******t home and was involved early on in American politics. Four times, Hall entered the run for POTUS. In the first two runs (1972/1976), his running mate was Jarvis Tyner, the current Executive Vice Chair of the C*******t Party USA. In Hall's final two runs (1980/1984), his running mate was Angela Davis, a member of the C*******t Party USA and briefly a member of the Black Panthers.

During the Cold War, John Brennan was wholly for Gus Hall to be president of the United States. And Hall was wholly in the pocket of the Kremlin. In fact, the Kremlin put in the pocket of Gus and his C*******t Party USA millions of dollars in illegal subsidies every year. Brennan campaigned for and v**ed for Gus Hall.

Questions: Does Putin have something on Brennan? Is John Brennan a c*******t plant? Is Brennan the covert leader of this rat pack that is trying to destroy president Trump?


Obama’s CIA director would sooner vacation in North Korea than at Mar-a-Lago.

Obama CIA director John Brennan, a subject of ongoing analysis at The American Spectator, recently uncorked an epic Twitter rant. Enraged by President Trump’s words aimed at FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe, Brennan steamed at the president: “When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America … America will triumph over you.”

More than one faithful reader of this fine publication emailed me about the irony of such words coming from a man who wanted Gus Hall to be president of the United States.

Indeed.

For those too young to remember, Gus Hall was the longtime hack and head of C*******t Party USA, beginning in 1959 until his death in 2000. Not even Joe Stalin as a Party general secretary came close to matching Gus Hall’s interminable tenure. Hall was unwaveringly dedicated to a global c*******t revolution and a truly Evil Empire that was ultimately and blessedly consigned to “the dustbin of history.” Brennan’s loaded words echoed a phrase that Bolshevism made infamous: From the delightful Leon Trotsky to the charming Yuri Andropov, the exhortation evidently remains etched in Brennan’s comradely memory. “Go the place where you belong from now on,” Trotsky thundered at the Mensheviks in 1917, “the dustbin of history!”

Our former CIA director channeled Trotsky in the service of blasting Trump.

Of course, that’s precisely why the good reader emailed me. The reader graciously remembered my piece for The American Spectator in September 2016 in which I noted that the same Mr. John Brennan had supported Mr. Gus Hall for POTUS back in the Brezhnev era. Brennan literally cast a v**e for the Kremlin’s man in Washington. Needless to say, the Kremlin in those days was a rather bad place that housed some nasty guys. Leonid Brezhnev’s KGB chief was Yuri Andropov. About the time that Brennan was registering a b****t for Moscow’s man in America to become America’s next president, Brezhnev and Andropov were giving the green light to one of the most shocking crimes of the deadly 20th century: the assassination of Pope John Paul II. Andropov gave the go-ahead to the Soviet GRU to hire Muslim-Turk Mehmet Ali Agca to murder the head of the world’s largest Christian church and inheritor of the Chair of St. Peter.

That ought to have raised a red f**g to John Brennan, who, among other things, had been raised an Irish Catholic. His lurch to the far left occurred during his college years at the Jesuit-run Fordham University in New York. (Today, it’s unclear where Brennan stands faith-wise, with not a single mention at his official CIA page and other biographical sources and amid unproven claims that he converted to Islam. The Arabic-speaking ex-CIA director, who studied abroad in Cairo, has made very positive statements about Islam and the “privilege” of making pilgrimage to Mecca and paying homage to “the majesty of the Hajj.”)

In fact, if one studies Brennan’s admission that he v**ed for Gus Hall, it looks like he also suggested that he might have been a member of the C*******t Party in 1980. Yes, a formal member.

Once upon a time in pre-Obama America, the possibility of CPUSA membership would have been a disqualifying factor to run the CIA. But not to the president that Americans elected in 2008 and reelected in 2012. To the contrary, Obama would have been highly sympathetic. It was likewise in 1980, at Occidental College, according to classmate John Drew, that the young Obama was an ideological Marxist, albeit not a formal CPUSA member. Only the most hardcore joined The Party — including Obama mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, whose underground code name for The Party was “The Church.”

But alas, that’s just the start of the irony in John Brennan’s Tweet about the corruption of Donald Trump. Observe that Brennan also blasted Trump for demagoguery, venality, and moral turpitude. Well, that took some gall for a Gus guy. Gus Hall was all those things, and worse.

I couldn’t begin to here lay out the full spectrum and spectacle (and disgrace, to borrow another Brennan description) that was Gus Hall, but here’s one particularly relevant item of interest: ol’ Gus was so corrupt that even the Russkies couldn’t trust him.

An eyewitness to that reality was Morris Childs, a remarkable individual whose story was told by the late John Barron in his fascinating book Operation Solo: The FBI’s Man in the Kremlin. Childs was Gus’s number-two at CPUSA. And all along, Childs was secretly working for the FBI.

The courageous Childs marvelously hoodwinked Hall and his Moscow cronies. The Sovs loved Childs like a brother, bestowing on him their celebrated Soviet Order of the Red Banner — a hilarious accomplishment for an undercover FBI agent.

What Childs learned from the Soviets was significant. But as to the point of Gus Hall’s corruption, consider this:

The Soviet Union was secretly bankrolling CPUSA, including annual subsidies to the Daily Worker. It was illegal for CPUSA and Gus Hall to receive this money. Our government knew this was happening, but it kept the information quiet to protect Childs so he could continue providing crucial inside intelligence.

Morris Childs and his brother Jack (also working for our side) were conduits for the funding. The Kremlin gave CPUSA tens of millions of dollars. The total rose to $2,775,000 by 1980. The FBI knew the precise amount because it counted every dime at a half-way house prior to when Morris deposited it in a safe for Gus Hall.

To repeat: Hall and CPUSA were doing all of this illegally. They were a directly subsidized arm of America’s chief adversary, of a barbaric regime.

But that’s not the end of it — of, that is, Gus Hall’s corruption. As for the safe in which Moscow’s money was placed for CPUSA, Gus always pocketed a portion for his personal stash. Childs knew this, the FBI knew it. He wasn’t trustworthy. Then again, why would anyone trust a c*******t general secretary? Come to think of it, why would anyone v**e for a c*******t general secretary to be their president of the United States?

That brings us back to John Brennan.

One might lend more credibility to Brennan’s crowing about Donald Trump if he had better judgment about presidents of the United States. And this article doesn’t begin to detail Gus Hall’s venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption. Where to start and finish with those? Here are merely a few Gus gems:

On vacationing in North Korea: “The world should see what North Korea has done. In some ways it’s a miracle. If you want to take a nice vacation, take it in North Korea.”

On the Party’s position on the Hitler-Stalin of 1939, Stalin’s purge trials, and the 1956 invasion of Hungary: “I never believed that we should dwell too much on the past. I have been much more interested in the future.”

On socialism’s inevitability in America: “There’s no question that the United States will become a socialist country. It’s as inevitable as the sun rising tomorrow.”

On the Party remaining committed to revolution: “We want to o*******w the capitalist system. But the means that we have chosen are ones of mass education and propaganda. We have our newspaper and we appear on talk shows and we will take part in e******ns.”

Well, John Brennan took part in those e******ns. He cast a v**e for the cause.

I could go and on. Gus went on and on. Talk about a disgraced demagogue, Mr. Brennan? Geesh. Here was one in spades.

Fortunately for America, Ronald Reagan and friends also had a v**e in 1980. They triumphed over Gus Hall and his advocates like John Brennan, mercifully consigning the Marxist-Leninist trash-heap to the dustbin of history.
Gus Hall (nee Arvo Kustaa Halberg) was the leader ... (show quote)


Thanks for the reminder! It would behoove all libs to read this sort of information!

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Jul 20, 2018 01:19:05   #
EconomistDon
 
kemmer wrote:
In the face of the Trump disaster


What Trump disaster?

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Jul 20, 2018 02:36:27   #
Nickolai
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Gus Hall (nee Arvo Kustaa Halberg) was the leader and chairman of the C*******t Party USA. Hall grew up in a C*******t home and was involved early on in American politics. Four times, Hall entered the run for POTUS. In the first two runs (1972/1976), his running mate was Jarvis Tyner, the current Executive Vice Chair of the C*******t Party USA. In Hall's final two runs (1980/1984), his running mate was Angela Davis, a member of the C*******t Party USA and briefly a member of the Black Panthers.

During the Cold War, John Brennan was wholly for Gus Hall to be president of the United States. And Hall was wholly in the pocket of the Kremlin. In fact, the Kremlin put in the pocket of Gus and his C*******t Party USA millions of dollars in illegal subsidies every year. Brennan campaigned for and v**ed for Gus Hall.

Questions: Does Putin have something on Brennan? Is John Brennan a c*******t plant? Is Brennan the covert leader of this rat pack that is trying to destroy president Trump?


Obama’s CIA director would sooner vacation in North Korea than at Mar-a-Lago.

Obama CIA director John Brennan, a subject of ongoing analysis at The American Spectator, recently uncorked an epic Twitter rant. Enraged by President Trump’s words aimed at FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe, Brennan steamed at the president: “When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America … America will triumph over you.”

More than one faithful reader of this fine publication emailed me about the irony of such words coming from a man who wanted Gus Hall to be president of the United States.

Indeed.

For those too young to remember, Gus Hall was the longtime hack and head of C*******t Party USA, beginning in 1959 until his death in 2000. Not even Joe Stalin as a Party general secretary came close to matching Gus Hall’s interminable tenure. Hall was unwaveringly dedicated to a global c*******t revolution and a truly Evil Empire that was ultimately and blessedly consigned to “the dustbin of history.” Brennan’s loaded words echoed a phrase that Bolshevism made infamous: From the delightful Leon Trotsky to the charming Yuri Andropov, the exhortation evidently remains etched in Brennan’s comradely memory. “Go the place where you belong from now on,” Trotsky thundered at the Mensheviks in 1917, “the dustbin of history!”

Our former CIA director channeled Trotsky in the service of blasting Trump.

Of course, that’s precisely why the good reader emailed me. The reader graciously remembered my piece for The American Spectator in September 2016 in which I noted that the same Mr. John Brennan had supported Mr. Gus Hall for POTUS back in the Brezhnev era. Brennan literally cast a v**e for the Kremlin’s man in Washington. Needless to say, the Kremlin in those days was a rather bad place that housed some nasty guys. Leonid Brezhnev’s KGB chief was Yuri Andropov. About the time that Brennan was registering a b****t for Moscow’s man in America to become America’s next president, Brezhnev and Andropov were giving the green light to one of the most shocking crimes of the deadly 20th century: the assassination of Pope John Paul II. Andropov gave the go-ahead to the Soviet GRU to hire Muslim-Turk Mehmet Ali Agca to murder the head of the world’s largest Christian church and inheritor of the Chair of St. Peter.

That ought to have raised a red f**g to John Brennan, who, among other things, had been raised an Irish Catholic. His lurch to the far left occurred during his college years at the Jesuit-run Fordham University in New York. (Today, it’s unclear where Brennan stands faith-wise, with not a single mention at his official CIA page and other biographical sources and amid unproven claims that he converted to Islam. The Arabic-speaking ex-CIA director, who studied abroad in Cairo, has made very positive statements about Islam and the “privilege” of making pilgrimage to Mecca and paying homage to “the majesty of the Hajj.”)

In fact, if one studies Brennan’s admission that he v**ed for Gus Hall, it looks like he also suggested that he might have been a member of the C*******t Party in 1980. Yes, a formal member.

Once upon a time in pre-Obama America, the possibility of CPUSA membership would have been a disqualifying factor to run the CIA. But not to the president that Americans elected in 2008 and reelected in 2012. To the contrary, Obama would have been highly sympathetic. It was likewise in 1980, at Occidental College, according to classmate John Drew, that the young Obama was an ideological Marxist, albeit not a formal CPUSA member. Only the most hardcore joined The Party — including Obama mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, whose underground code name for The Party was “The Church.”

But alas, that’s just the start of the irony in John Brennan’s Tweet about the corruption of Donald Trump. Observe that Brennan also blasted Trump for demagoguery, venality, and moral turpitude. Well, that took some gall for a Gus guy. Gus Hall was all those things, and worse.

I couldn’t begin to here lay out the full spectrum and spectacle (and disgrace, to borrow another Brennan description) that was Gus Hall, but here’s one particularly relevant item of interest: ol’ Gus was so corrupt that even the Russkies couldn’t trust him.

An eyewitness to that reality was Morris Childs, a remarkable individual whose story was told by the late John Barron in his fascinating book Operation Solo: The FBI’s Man in the Kremlin. Childs was Gus’s number-two at CPUSA. And all along, Childs was secretly working for the FBI.

The courageous Childs marvelously hoodwinked Hall and his Moscow cronies. The Sovs loved Childs like a brother, bestowing on him their celebrated Soviet Order of the Red Banner — a hilarious accomplishment for an undercover FBI agent.

What Childs learned from the Soviets was significant. But as to the point of Gus Hall’s corruption, consider this:

The Soviet Union was secretly bankrolling CPUSA, including annual subsidies to the Daily Worker. It was illegal for CPUSA and Gus Hall to receive this money. Our government knew this was happening, but it kept the information quiet to protect Childs so he could continue providing crucial inside intelligence.

Morris Childs and his brother Jack (also working for our side) were conduits for the funding. The Kremlin gave CPUSA tens of millions of dollars. The total rose to $2,775,000 by 1980. The FBI knew the precise amount because it counted every dime at a half-way house prior to when Morris deposited it in a safe for Gus Hall.

To repeat: Hall and CPUSA were doing all of this illegally. They were a directly subsidized arm of America’s chief adversary, of a barbaric regime.

But that’s not the end of it — of, that is, Gus Hall’s corruption. As for the safe in which Moscow’s money was placed for CPUSA, Gus always pocketed a portion for his personal stash. Childs knew this, the FBI knew it. He wasn’t trustworthy. Then again, why would anyone trust a c*******t general secretary? Come to think of it, why would anyone v**e for a c*******t general secretary to be their president of the United States?

That brings us back to John Brennan.

One might lend more credibility to Brennan’s crowing about Donald Trump if he had better judgment about presidents of the United States. And this article doesn’t begin to detail Gus Hall’s venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption. Where to start and finish with those? Here are merely a few Gus gems:

On vacationing in North Korea: “The world should see what North Korea has done. In some ways it’s a miracle. If you want to take a nice vacation, take it in North Korea.”

On the Party’s position on the Hitler-Stalin of 1939, Stalin’s purge trials, and the 1956 invasion of Hungary: “I never believed that we should dwell too much on the past. I have been much more interested in the future.”

On socialism’s inevitability in America: “There’s no question that the United States will become a socialist country. It’s as inevitable as the sun rising tomorrow.”

On the Party remaining committed to revolution: “We want to o*******w the capitalist system. But the means that we have chosen are ones of mass education and propaganda. We have our newspaper and we appear on talk shows and we will take part in e******ns.”

Well, John Brennan took part in those e******ns. He cast a v**e for the cause.

I could go and on. Gus went on and on. Talk about a disgraced demagogue, Mr. Brennan? Geesh. Here was one in spades.

Fortunately for America, Ronald Reagan and friends also had a v**e in 1980. They triumphed over Gus Hall and his advocates like John Brennan, mercifully consigning the Marxist-Leninist trash-heap to the dustbin of history.
Gus Hall (nee Arvo Kustaa Halberg) was the leader ... (show quote)







John Brennan admits he was once a c*******t but grew out of it. So What. I was oce a Republican but grew out of it

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Jul 20, 2018 09:57:55   #
kemmer
 
EconomistDon wrote:
I don't believe that Russian interference had any impact on the e******n.

So, you're smarter and have more info than all of the government intel agencies?
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It certainly had far less impact than millions of i*****l a***n v**ers, v****g machine fraud, and dishonest left-wing media. All this hoopla is more about hatred toward Trump and making excuses for Hillary's loss than it is about anger over Russian interference.

There is NO evidence that "millions" of i******s v**ed. Trump is obsessed with the fact that he lost the popular v**e by almost 3 million v**es. Nobody cares anymore, anything about Hillary losing, thanks to the E*******l College; in case you're living in a cave, the WHOLE deal is about Russian interference in 2016 and continuing. And Trump seems not to care about it, or welcomes it.

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Jul 20, 2018 10:50:37   #
jim_shipley
 
Why should we care about what Russia does? Short of nuclear war none of it has any major effect on our lives. If they destroy Europe that means fewer liberals to mess up the world.

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Jul 20, 2018 10:52:04   #
kemmer
 
jim_shipley wrote:
Why should we care about what Russia does? Short of nuclear war none of it has any major effect on our lives. If they destroy Europe that means fewer liberals to mess up the world.

This response is so absurd, I don't think it's worth even answering.

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Jul 20, 2018 12:44:47   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
proud, Do you really want Russia to be our friend? We have a hell of a lot of nukes pointed at them as well. We managed to get through the cold war without a single nuke being fired, thanks to MAD. Today Russia has interfered in our democratic e******ns, and those of our allies, invaded and taken over territories of former Soviet states in spite of treaty obligations, and tried to intimidate our allies and the US. Putin is a murderer, thief, former KGB thug, and opposes US vital interests all over the world. If we don't oppose him, we may as well haul down Old Glory and hoist the Blue White and Red f**g of Russia. I don't think that I'm ready for that even if Trump acts like he is. How about you?
proud republican wrote:
They have just as many nukes pointing at us as we at them......Im not saying to be friends, but being enemies is not an option either......What do you think???

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Jul 20, 2018 13:56:07   #
Radiance3
 
woodguru wrote:
Trump doesn't even know what nuclear proliferation is, he would like to double the nukes we have.

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I am sure you are a handout!

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Jul 20, 2018 14:05:20   #
Nickolai
 
EconomistDon wrote:
I don't believe that Russian interference had any impact on the e******n. It certainly had far less impact than millions of i*****l a***n v**ers, v****g machine fraud, and dishonest left-wing media. All this hoopla is more about hatred toward Trump and making excuses for Hillary's loss than it is about anger over Russian interference. If somebody is throwing rocks at you, you don't just say "stop it". You defend yourself. If America put as much effort into improving security and firewalls, this wouldn't be a problem. We need to stop whining, and defend our data systems. Shields up!!!!!!!
I don't believe that Russian interference had any ... (show quote)






And yesterday the Republicans v**ed down a proposal to provide $380 million for improving cyber security. What's with that ?? With his nation under attack and the head of the attacking regime standing next to him, Trump was every thing he professes to despise. Weak, feeble, Impotent. He thought it a terrific idea for our intelligence officials to be forced to travel to Russia to be interogated by Putins Intelligence about the indictment of 12 of Putins intelligence officials. His effort to walk back his comment that there is no reason to think Russia would responsible for interferring with our democratic process was pathetic. Every one knows he did not mis speak. If he mis spoke would for wouldnt then he would have to chang that whole statement. What the hell happened in Helsinki. What was said in that secret meeting. Why did he cozy up to an autocratic thug whos regime has strangled democracy, stolen land, and murdered dissidents. Faced with all that he did every thing but roll over to get his tummy scratched saying both cuntries were to blame for Russias mis behavior.


Ah but its clear this is not a good man and it was predictable behavior for a wannabe autocrat who admires authoritarians and abhors democracy in any shape or form. He cannot bring himself to understand that Russia is the only country on earth besides North Korea that would dare to carry out assassinations on foreign soil and blantedlly violates its nuclear and chemical weapons treaty obligations. And has invaded two of its neighbors. His performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of high crimes & misdeamers. The Republican party is so hungry for power it has become a lap dog for this dispicable and as Noan Chomsky has stated the most dangerous organization on earth

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Jul 20, 2018 14:15:03   #
kemmer
 
Nickolai wrote:
And yesterday the Republicans v**ed down a proposal to provide $380 million for improving cyber security. What's with that ?? With his nation under attack and the head of the attacking regime standing next to him, Trump was every thing he professes to despise. Weak, feeble, Impotent. He thought it a terrific idea for our intelligence officials to be forced to travel to Russia to be interogated by Putins Intelligence about the indictment of 12 of Putins intelligence officials. His effort to walk back his comment that there is no reason to think Russia would responsible for interferring with our democratic process was pathetic. Every one knows he did not mis speak. If he mis spoke would for wouldnt then he would have to chang that whole statement. What the hell happened in Helsinki. What was said in that secret meeting. Why did he cozy up to an autocratic thug whos regime has strangled democracy, stolen land, and murdered dissidents. Faced with all that he did every thing but roll over to get his tummy scratched saying both cuntries were to blame for Russias mis behavior.


Ah but its clear this is not a good man and it was predictable behavior for a wannabe autocrat who admires authoritarians and abhors democracy in any shape or form. He cannot bring himself to understand that Russia is the only country on earth besides North Korea that would dare to carry out assassinations on foreign soil and blantedlly violates its nuclear and chemical weapons treaty obligations. And has invaded two of its neighbors. His performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of high crimes & misdeamers. The Republican party is so hungry for power it has become a lap dog for this dispicable and as Noan Chomsky has stated the most dangerous organization on earth
And yesterday the Republicans v**ed down a proposa... (show quote)

Trump fired the WH security chief and is not going to replace him.
Take that, Vladimir!!

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