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Jul 16, 2018 12:24:01   #
Gatsby
 
Three score and six years.

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Jul 16, 2018 12:39:37   #
Babsan
 
Gatsby wrote:
Three score and six years.

Correct.McCarthyism was the pub lic announcement that the Democrats had infiltrated the C*******ts in the party and a sort of purge of C*******ts was talked about.McCarthy was 100% right on and that is what we see today in the Democrat/C*******t party and the e******n of a Muslim Fraud 2008

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Jul 16, 2018 12:55:46   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Babsan wrote:
Correct.McCarthyism was the pub lic announcement that the Democrats had infiltrated the C*******ts in the party and a sort of purge of C*******ts was talked about.McCarthy was 100% right on and that is what we see today in the Democrat/C*******t party and the e******n of a Muslim Fraud 2008



History has proved that McCarthy UNDERestimated the degree of c*******t penetration of our government. That's why the Democrats were so upset over his discoveries. They were all panic stricken that the fellowship of c*******m and liberalism would be exposed. Even today, few accept it. The Democratic Party is c*******t, from top to bottom.

McCarthy was a man of honor; Mueller is not.

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Jul 16, 2018 13:10:02   #
Babsan
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
History has proved that McCarthy UNDERestimated the degree of c*******t penetration of our government. That's why the Democrats were so upset over his discoveries. They were all panic stricken that the fellowship of c*******m and liberalism would be exposed. Even today, few accept it. The Democratic Party is c*******t, from top to bottom.

McCarthy was a man of honor; Mueller is not.


You are correct!

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Jul 16, 2018 14:21:26   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Babsan wrote:
Correct.McCarthyism was the pub lic announcement that the Democrats had infiltrated the C*******ts in the party and a sort of purge of C*******ts was talked about.McCarthy was 100% right on and that is what we see today in the Democrat/C*******t party and the e******n of a Muslim Fraud 2008


Joseph McCarthy was absolutely correct that Russian C*******ts had infiltrated FDR's administration and were in a lot of high level positions where they were undermining the USA. He was blacklisted for telling the t***h. Only when the Venona papers became available did we know the t***h. An interesting book about McCarthy is "Blacklisted by History" is well worth the time to read.

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Jul 16, 2018 14:44:53   #
PeterS
 
Gatsby wrote:
Three score and six years.

McCarthy was a drunk who used c*******m to get famous. Mueller is stone sober with eyes zeroed in on his prey!

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Jul 16, 2018 16:59:35   #
Gatsby
 
PeterS wrote:
McCarthy was a drunk who used c*******m to get famous. Mueller is stone sober with eyes zeroed in on his prey!


This thread is not about the individuals, but about the movements that they represented.

McCarthyism: The practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence.

Muellerism is following in McCarthyism's footsteps every day, in every way.

The only difference of substance is the time.

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Jul 16, 2018 17:13:41   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
crazy, Of all the insane things you have posted, saying that McCarthy was honorable is the craziest. He used his power to claim that his targets were c*******ts. He even went on to say that General of the Army, George Marshall was a c*******t. This was the biggest lie that the alcoholic character assassin ever said, although there were many, many more. In my opinion, if people want to be c*******ts, it is none of my business. American citizens have the right of free association, free speech, and the right to petition their government. As long as they don't break the law, they have those rights. This d********g little dictator wanna be was condemned by the United States Senate, and rightly so. It is no wonder to me that you are a card carrying member of the Trump cult. You seem to have a special love of f*****m.
crazylibertarian wrote:
History has proved that McCarthy UNDERestimated the degree of c*******t penetration of our government. That's why the Democrats were so upset over his discoveries. They were all panic stricken that the fellowship of c*******m and liberalism would be exposed. Even today, few accept it. The Democratic Party is c*******t, from top to bottom.

McCarthy was a man of honor; Mueller is not.

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Jul 16, 2018 17:25:57   #
Babsan
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
crazy, Of all the insane things you have posted, saying that McCarthy was honorable is the craziest. He used his power to claim that his targets were c*******ts. He even went on to say that General of the Army, George Marshall was a c*******t. This was the biggest lie that the alcoholic character assassin ever said, although there were many, many more. In my opinion, if people want to be c*******ts, it is none of my business. American citizens have the right of free association, free speech, and the right to petition their government. As long as they don't break the law, they have those rights. This d********g little dictator wanna be was condemned by the United States Senate, and rightly so. It is no wonder to me that you are a card carrying member of the Trump cult. You seem to have a special love of f*****m.
crazy, Of all the insane things you have posted, s... (show quote)

How do know what you are talking about,really?We are at the same point now again just different parties.Your beloved Democrats are C*******ts today some are Socialists and there are NO more Democrats

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Jul 16, 2018 20:28:50   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Gatsby wrote:
This thread is not about the individuals, but about the movements that they represented.

McCarthyism: The practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence.

Muellerism is following in McCarthyism's footsteps every day, in every way.

The only difference of substance is the time.



Senator Joseph McCarthy was correct in his statements as was proven when the Venona papers were made available after the Soviet Union was no more. There is plenty of documentation that is now available if you choose to read it, rather than keep repeating the Soviet DISINFORMATION which has now been proven lies.

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Jul 16, 2018 20:35:13   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Senator Joseph McCarthy was correct in his statements as was proven when the Venona papers were made available after the Soviet Union was no more. There is plenty of documentation that is now available if you choose to read it, rather than keep repeating the Soviet DISINFORMATION which has now been proven lies.


Most-h**ed senator was right
Scholars: Joseph McCarthy's charges 'now accepted as fact'
Published: 02/08/2000 at 1:00 AM
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WASHINGTON — Although Joseph McCarthy was one of the most demonized American politicians of the last century, new information — including half-century-old FBI recordings of Soviet embassy conversations — are showing that McCarthy was right in nearly all his accusations.

“With Joe McCarthy it was the losers who’ve written the history which condemns him,” said Dan Flynn, director of Accuracy in Academia’s recent national conference on McCarthy, broadcast by C-SPAN.

Using new information obtained from studies of old Soviet files in Moscow and now the famous Venona Intercepts — FBI recordings of Soviet embassy communications between 1944-48 — the record is showing that McCarthy was essentially right. He had many weaknesses, but almost every case he charged has now been proven correct. Whether it was stealing atomic secrets or influencing U.S. foreign policy, c*******t victories in the 1940s were fed by an incredibly vast spy and influence network.

The conference, a gathering of old McCarthyites and younger scholars, commemorated the senator’s first speech, in Wheeling, W. Va., 50 years ago, when he first held up a list of names of employees of the State Department whom, he said, were major security risks. McCarthy questioned how, in six short years after America’s winning of World War II, the c*******t world was triumphant and had expanded to include 800 million people.

Of the lists, a key one consisted of 108 names from a House Appropriations Committee report, of persons declared as “security risks” in the State Department — the Lee List. The House committee chairman had complained that State wasn’t bothering to do anything about the suspects. Details of the list and its accusations were presented at the conference.

Speakers detailed many of the cover-ups used to smear McCarthy. Veteran journalist and teacher Stan Evans, director of National Journalism Center, told of the Tydings Committee, which had investigated McCarthy’s charges of c*******ts in government. Its report had exonerated everybody. Among the accused it stated categorically that there was no evidence against Owen Lattimore, a man McCarthy said was a major figure in the c*******t conspiracy. Lattimore had been Roosevelt’s key advisor on China policy. Yet Evans showed evidence from 5,000 pages of FBI files on him — files released only a few years ago to the public, although the White House had access to them.

However, evidence before the committee showed that Lattimore had supported Soviet policy at every turn, even declaring that the Stalin purge trials in Russia, “sound like democracy to me.” With then-Vice President Henry Wallace in Russia, Lattimore compared concentration camps to the Tennessee Valley Authority, and later urged Washington to abandon China to c*******m and to withdraw from Japan and Korea. FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover, who had fed information to McCarthy, broke with him afterwards, fearing McCarthy would prejudice FBI sources of information for its criminal prosecutions.

Although most of McCarthy’s cases involved actual spies and “security risks,” the really important issue was that of c*******t influence over American foreign policy, argued Evans. Harry Hopkins, Roosevelt’s closest advisor who lived in the White House, had regular contacts with Soviet intelligence. He helped bring about the disastrous Yalta and Pottsdam agreements. The Morganthau Plan, to prevent German reconstruction and starve the Germans to make them desperate enough to go c*******t, was the product of Laughlin Currie and Harry Dexter White at the Treasury Department. The abandonment of Chiang Kai-shek by denying military support was the product of “China Hands” led by John Stewart Service, John Patton Davies, and Lattimore. Evans described other major spy networks — in England, the Burgess Maclean group which infiltrated Washington as well as London.

Reed Irvine, chairman of Accuracy in Media, told how he himself had been a l*****t in his early career. He had been against McCarthy, but McCarthy’s speeches had made him think and start to read “evidence that I had avoided.” He described how all during his military career as a Marine officer and later in Japan with the U.S. occupation he had never hidden his l*****t views and later had even been offered a job at the CIA. Irvine argued that real c*******ts were only in the hundreds, but that thousands of l*****ts, such as he, all feared McCarthy and had wanted him discredited.

Pulling all the latest evidence together was luncheon speaker Professor Arthur Herman. His new book, “Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America’s Most H**ed Senator,” and featured in the Sunday New York Times Magazine, shows the vindication of most of McCarthy’s charges. Herman, who is also coordinator of the Smithsonian’s Western Heritage Program, said that the accuracy of McCarthy’s charges “was no longer a matter of debate,” that they are “now accepted as fact.” However, the term “McCarthyism” still remains in the language.

Asked whether McCarthy had understood all the forces arrayed against him, Herman said no, that McCarthy hadn’t realized he’d be fighting against much of the Washington establishment. President Truman was fearful that exposures would reflect on key Democrat officials, he said, and big media and the academic world were very l*****t, a heritage of the Depression and World War II. High government officials also feared investigations of their past appointments and associations with people who turned out to be c*******ts or sympathizers.

That was the reason McCarthy was so demonized, he said.

Joe McCarthy had been a Marine air gunner, an amateur boxer, a county judge and towards his end, under constant attack, he began to drink heavily. Herman said he certainly was over his head and his fall came about after sweeping attacks on General Marshall and the Army. Senator Taft and other key supporters began to draw away from him.

If Robert Kennedy, his competent and well-connected co-counsel, had stayed on, McCarthy might have behaved more carefully, said Herman. An argument with other co-counsel Roy Cohn left Cohn in charge, but Cohn and staffer David Schine were disastrous for McCarthy. Still, McCarthy’s original charges helped bring about Eisenhower’s e*******l victory and the defeat of the Democrats and key l*****t Democratic senators such as Tydings of Maryland. Four years after his original charges, Joe McCarthy was censured by the Senate and died shortly thereafter.

There is more evidence to come. Herb Romerstein, another speaker, who started out with the old House Un-American Activities Committee, is writing a book about the Venona FBI intercepts and their links to other evidence from his comprehensive study in Russia of Soviet archives, made available to Westerners since the fall of c*******m. His book, The Venona Secrets, will be released by Regnery Gateway this fall.

Audiotapes of the “Accuracy in Academia” conference are available online.

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Jul 17, 2018 13:34:45   #
donald41 Loc: puyallup Wa
 
Babsan wrote:
Correct.McCarthyism was the pub lic announcement that the Democrats had infiltrated the C*******ts in the party and a sort of purge of C*******ts was talked about.McCarthy was 100% right on and that is what we see today in the Democrat/C*******t party and the e******n of a Muslim Fraud 2008


You are right McCarthy was right.

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Jul 17, 2018 13:36:19   #
woodguru
 
That one brought out the kooks and nutjobs...

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Jul 17, 2018 17:54:03   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
PeterS wrote:
McCarthy was a drunk who used c*******m to get famous. Mueller is stone sober with eyes zeroed in on his prey!



McCarthy was a gentleman, as opposed to people such as you who have no idea what the word means. History has vindicated McCarthy. Check the Venona Files. McCarthy went to great strides to clear help who'd been cleared by his investigations, including Earl Browder who'd been a chairman of CPUSA.

Respond to this for once, if you dare.

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Jul 18, 2018 12:58:46   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
McCarthy was a gentleman, as opposed to people such as you who have no idea what the word means. History has vindicated McCarthy. Check the Venona Files. McCarthy went to great strides to clear help who'd been cleared by his investigations, including Earl Browder who'd been a chairman of CPUSA.

Respond to this for once, if you dare.


The progressives have no intention of acknowledge the t***h. Yesterday I posted a number of sources for this information and I doubt that any of the "progressives" have looked for the references. McCarthy was telling the t***h and all except the stooges of the Marxist Socialists have now acknowledged the t***h.

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