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V**e: Who is the greater leader Churchill or Trump?
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Jul 16, 2018 11:30:30   #
Airforceone
 
byronglimish wrote:
Life in the proverbial gutter is expressed by Kevin, like no other person on this board.


The right has no idea if the EU falls what Russia will do. WWIII will begin. That NATO alliance has prevented Russia from expanding throughout Eastern Europe since 1949 the most successful alliance in World History.

(What a bunch of ignorant Trump supporters who don’t understand what NATO has accomplished)

After WWII Russia started to Occupy Eastern Europe Albania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Eastern Germany, Poland, Romania, and Yugoslavia. And if not for NATO the USSR would have continued. Through the collapse of the Russian economy and the Cold War the USSR was dismantled and now they are just Russia.

The US won the Cold War because of the collapse in the Russian economy and the build up of NATO and increase in our military budget. it had nothing to do with Reagan and his tare down this wall. Trump is an i***t and has no idea about the History after WWII and the reason to form NATO.
Countries that were under Russian control that Joined NATO after the collapse of the Russia economy were Albania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, East Germany, Poland.
Now Trump wants to destroy NATO with his constant lies and Putin is thrilled because Trump is doing what Russia could not do since 1949.

What does Putin have on Trump

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Jul 16, 2018 12:31:20   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Chocura750 wrote:
At this time I'd have to v**e for Churchill.


Apples and Oranges (No pun Intended). Churchill was undoubtedly the world's greatest wartime leader. Trump is on track to becoming the greatest Reactionary leader in this nation's history. Should he succeed he will return prosperity to the average man and at the same time make major inroads towards world peace.

Bye the way, that Moslem, Obama, expressed his hatred by sending the bust of Churchill, which resided in the Oval Office at the White house, back to England; an insult and a total rejection of our illustrious alliance. Fortunately Trump had the Bust returned to its position of eminence. A good reactionary move.

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Jul 16, 2018 13:58:25   #
Airforceone
 
pafret wrote:
Apples and Oranges (No pun Intended). Churchill was undoubtedly the world's greatest wartime leader. Trump is on track to becoming the greatest Reactionary leader in this nation's history. Should he succeed he will return prosperity to the average man and at the same time make major inroads towards world peace.

Bye the way, that Moslem, Obama, expressed his hatred by sending the bust of Churchill, which resided in the Oval Office at the White house, back to England; an insult and a total rejection of our illustrious alliance. Fortunately Trump had the Bust returned to its position of eminence. A good reactionary move.
Apples and Oranges (No pun Intended). Churchill w... (show quote)


Yup Trump the reactionary stands on a stage with a dictator (Putin) and places blame on the US for Russian aggression and discredit all US intelligence agencies and his own justice department that has indicted 12 Russian operatives.

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Jul 16, 2018 14:11:53   #
EmilyD
 
byronglimish wrote:
Who is a greater debater someone with your intellect or an intoxicated crack whore..?

Please don't insult intoxicated crack whores..

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Jul 16, 2018 14:22:56   #
Morgan
 
pafret wrote:
Apples and Oranges (No pun Intended). Churchill was undoubtedly the world's greatest wartime leader. Trump is on track to becoming the greatest Reactionary leader in this nation's history. Should he succeed he will return prosperity to the average man and at the same time make major inroads towards world peace.

Bye the way, that Moslem, Obama, expressed his hatred by sending the bust of Churchill, which resided in the Oval Office at the White house, back to England; an insult and a total rejection of our illustrious alliance. Fortunately Trump had the Bust returned to its position of eminence. A good reactionary move.
Apples and Oranges (No pun Intended). Churchill w... (show quote)


You have this completely incorrect, and absolutely nothing to do with hatred. There was another bust given to Bush while the first bust was sent out for repair, by the same artist, the second Bust was a lender that was supposed to be returned when Bush left office.

In 2016, Obama admitted he had decided to remove the bust of Churchill in the Oval Office to make room for one of Martin Luther King Jr. “There are only so many tables where you can put busts — otherwise it starts looking a little cluttered,” he said.

Besides, he noted, he already had a bust of Churchill just outside his office in the private residence. “I see it every day, including on weekends, when I’m going into that office to watch a basketball game,” he said.

No H**e. Churchill is still in the Whitehouse.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/01/23/heres-the-real-story-about-the-churchill-bust-in-the-oval-office/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c3380e22e4e1

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Jul 17, 2018 06:04:38   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Morgan wrote:
You've summed it up perfectly Airforceone Somehow the right has sold themselves out to what they perceive a non-politician, for someone who has no moral or ethical character, especially when corresponding with foreign countries. What can any foreign leader think when approaching a man who they know is a known liar and not of his word?
You've summed it up perfectly Airforceone img src... (show quote)


You need look no further than Obama to find out.

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Jul 17, 2018 08:00:56   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Loki wrote:
You need look no further than Obama to find out.


Am I to take it that we should avoid looking at what is happening today becuse of what happened yesterday?
Is each day to be worse than the day before.

We are on a path that is not good for most indivduals.
A path that is becoming better & better for the Money Changers.

Is that the best you can offer to set the course we are on straight?

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Jul 17, 2018 08:43:08   #
Morgan
 
Loki wrote:
You need look no further than Obama to find out.


Completely untrue, Obama was loved and respected in most countries.

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Jul 17, 2018 12:14:47   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Churchill , the war-monger used war to hide personal deficiencies and was only able to do it due to the fact that war was there and Churchill lived in La La Land, so when did the US crash dive into the lame Kamikaze pillow strike ? .

Now, !!! luckily for Churchill Hitler made the same mistake, capital ships were junk bonds and submarines the state of the art but neither man knew it at the time when it mattered exclusively; both men were asleep; anxiety died in slumber and catastrophe held their joysticks.

Metternich is a better analogy, Metternich was the Cupid between Napoleon and an Austrian princess causing French Austrian hegemony in Europe but Nepolian made one mistake and attacked Russia, while the Holy Alliance was an earlier version of EU following on from the Czar's idea Metternich did manage to push the Czar aside, which made him the ruler of Europe.

Cupid means desire in Latin erotica in America Trump is one or the other I'm not sure which.


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Jul 17, 2018 13:53:22   #
moldyoldy
 
pafret wrote:
Apples and Oranges (No pun Intended). Churchill was undoubtedly the world's greatest wartime leader. Trump is on track to becoming the greatest Reactionary leader in this nation's history. Should he succeed he will return prosperity to the average man and at the same time make major inroads towards world peace.

Bye the way, that Moslem, Obama, expressed his hatred by sending the bust of Churchill, which resided in the Oval Office at the White house, back to England; an insult and a total rejection of our illustrious alliance. Fortunately Trump had the Bust returned to its position of eminence. A good reactionary move.
Apples and Oranges (No pun Intended). Churchill w... (show quote)


Why do you keep repeating that lie? The bust you talk about was on loan to Bush while he was president.

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Jul 17, 2018 13:54:25   #
Carol Kelly
 
byronglimish wrote:
President Trump is still new in his political career..
Both men have in common.. a straight forward hard nosed approach to the problems facing our world. Churchill isn't available so I pick our President..the man is very patriotic.


I v**e with you. Churchill had a lot of political experience behind him, Trump saw the problems and wanted to fix America. Churchill had a war to win, but still Trump gets my v**e.

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Jul 17, 2018 13:56:36   #
Carol Kelly
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Why do you keep repeating that lie? The bust you talk about was on loan to Bush while he was president.


Not a lie. Bust was a gift. Obamas action was an insult. Churchill was half American but wholly Great.

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Jul 17, 2018 13:58:39   #
woodguru
 
Mike Easterday wrote:
President Trump gets my v**e.


He already did and you will stick with him to the end...

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Jul 17, 2018 14:13:38   #
moldyoldy
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Not a lie. Bust was a gift. Obamas action was an insult. Churchill was half American but wholly Great.


According to a 2010 interview with White House curator William Allman, the decision to return the bust had been made even before Obama arrived, as the loan was scheduled to last only as long as Bush’s presidency. That narrative was confirmed by British ambassador Sir Peter Westmacott just before stepped down in 2015: “To be honest, we always expected that to leave the Oval Office just like everything else that a president has tends to be changed,” he told The Guardian newspaper. “Even the carpet is usually changed when the president changes.”
Bust B was shipped back to the library of the British ambassador’s residence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/01/23/heres-the-real-story-about-the-churchill-bust-in-the-oval-office/

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Jul 17, 2018 16:39:43   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I v**e with you. Churchill had a lot of political experience behind him, Trump saw the problems and wanted to fix America. Churchill had a war to win, but still Trump gets my v**e.


You sure have a distorted view on Trumps view on fixing America.
I fail to see any thing any thing he really fixed.

There is hardly a day goes by tat he don't screw something up.

I have just found a way to get along with spending less money & get a better deal.

I suggest that you look for more ways to stretch out your resources.
Because the America that is going to be strong again is not going to be you & I.

I do not live in a lily white neigborhood.
I have learned to how to get along with those that don't look like me.

I would suggest that you try that out.
You just may fit in to the changing world.

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