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Jul 16, 2018 11:25:41   #
JIM BETHEA
 
TEXT BOOK RHETORIC from Schumer, Blumenthal, Hillary & Maxine...."that dog won't hunt"

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Jul 16, 2018 13:08:23   #
Tsion1953
 
Tgards79 wrote:
It's time for Donald Trump to Helsinki or swim, and once again we hear pundits wonder what exactly Vladimir Putin has on Trump that causes the President to endlessly supplicate himself before the Russian leader. The answer it is pretty obvious.
http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2018/07/btrtn-what-does-putin-have-on-trump-duh.html


More l*****t drivel....

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Jul 16, 2018 15:02:02   #
kemmer
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
There's that word again, "pundits". I opened the link and found a website that declares:

You will love this site if you: (1) want accurate national e******n predictions, (2) are a political junkie, (3) don't have the time to track the campaigns, and/or (4) crave an informed overview of where things stand. BTRTN has everything you really need to know to stay informed – all in one place.

I read the article, then, just because I'm curious I went back and viewed their articles from October 2016, you know, just before the e******n. I found some really interesting articles:

Why Hillary Will Still Win, Post-Comey

BTRTN Endorses Democrat Alison Boak for New York State Senate, District 40. Pass It On!
(oops - she lost 58% to 42% to the Republican incumbent)

BTRTN 50-State E*******l College Snapshot #8: With Two Weeks To Go, Clinton Now Has 272 Solids and Maintains Commanding Lead

BTRTN P**********l Snapshot #7: Clinton Strengthens Overwhelming Lead In a Wild, Sordid Week

BTRTN Senate/House Snapshot #5: Dems Take Aim at Senate, House Control as Trump Implodes

BTRTN's 50-State E*******l Snapshot #6: Clinton Regains Total Command -- and That's Pre-Tape, Pre-Debate #2

Of course, just after the e******n they ran a very detailed article called:

BTRTN 2016 E******n Day Forecasts: How We Did and What Went Wrong (where they sounded a little like Hillary explaining why things didn't go the way "everyone expected")

So by all means, take a look at the article - just keep in mind where it came from.
There's that word again, "pundits". I o... (show quote)

Did any of you watch Trump give Vlad Putin a BJ in Helsinki today?

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Jul 16, 2018 15:11:13   #
Tsion1953
 
You are a sick man and a good representative of the evil left
kemmer wrote:
Did any of you watch Trump give Vlad Putin a BJ in Helsinki today?

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Jul 16, 2018 15:12:05   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
If he did I'm sure you taped it. And watched it over and over again. Hey, that's how you roll.
kemmer wrote:
Did any of you watch Trump give Vlad Putin a BJ in Helsinki today?

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Jul 16, 2018 15:18:53   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
Did any of you watch Trump give Vlad Putin a BJ in Helsinki today?
So now we know you understand what non sequitur means "def 2: a statement (such as a response) that does not follow logically from or is not clearly related to anything previously said".

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Jul 16, 2018 15:28:16   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
kemmer wrote:
Did any of you watch Trump give Vlad Putin a BJ in Helsinki today?
No doubt that in your perverted mind, you fantasized such a thing. Shows us what kind of low rent obscene person you are.

Actually, Putin gave Trump the game ball from the World Cup soccer tournament, and Trump tossed it to Melania.







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Jul 16, 2018 15:33:07   #
kemmer
 
Blade_Runner wrote:

Actually, Putin gave Trump the game ball from the World Cup soccer tournament, and Trump tossed it to Melania.

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That’s the thanks Trump got for siding with Putin against all the American intel agencies.

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Jul 16, 2018 16:04:04   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
kemmer wrote:
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That’s the thanks Trump got for siding with Putin against all the American intel agencies.


Tell me, why can't this great intel tell us how the Russians influence our e******n? Did they send
microwaves into our brains so as to not v**e for Hillary? All BS.

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Jul 16, 2018 16:06:49   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
kemmer wrote:
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That’s the thanks Trump got for siding with Putin against all the American intel agencies.

"Why the hell are we standing down?"

That was the question that the White House's cybersecurity coordinator was asked after Susan Rice, Obama's national security adviser, issued a stand down order on Russia.

Testimony at the Senate Intelligence Committee hearings on Russian interference in the e******n once again raised the central paradox of the Russia conspiracy theory. If Russian interference in the e******n represented the crisis that we are told it did, why did Obama fail to take any meaningful action?
Obama issued a bloodless warning to Russia while his people deliberately crippled our offense

The White House's own cybersecurity people wanted an aggressive response before being told to stand down. Obama issued a bloodless warning to Russia while his people deliberately crippled our offense.

Democrats and the media blamed the Russian hacking on Trump. But it was Susan Rice who had told the cybersecurity team to "knock it off"and Obama's people who hadn't wanted him to be "boxed in" and forced to respond to Russian actions. Was this just the usual appeasement or was there more to it?

Why didn't Obama and his team want to stop Russian hacking? Because they needed the Russians.

The 2016 e******n is really the story of two deep state intelligence operations that dovetailed neatly with each other. One was an ongoing Russian operation that took advantage of a weak president to sow chaos in America and Europe. The other was a domestic political operation utilizing counterintelligence resources in the United States and Europe to spy on, undermine and try to bring down Trump.

Contrary to claims made by Obama operatives, the Russian operation was not new. Russian hackers and spies had done enormous damage to America's intelligence community. But they had succeeded so well because the mission of the intelligence community had shifted from deterring foreign adversaries to suppressing domestic political opponents. And this new mission made the Russians attacks irrelevant.

The Russian attacks on the formerly formidable NSA were so easy to accomplish because it was no longer countering the Russians. Instead Obama viewed it as a police state tool for spying on pro-Israel activists, members of Congress and Trump campaign officials. The NSA's opposite numbers in Russia, posing as rogue hackers, were no longer hammering rivals, but a twisted and crippled organization.

Obama didn't want to fight the Russians, but the Russian attacks were very useful because they justified the NSA's powers, which he was abusing not to go after the Russians, but after American political rivals. And the Russian e******n hacks played perfectly into his hands by justifying the counterintelligence investigations supposedly aimed at the Russians, but really aimed at domestic political opponents.

The Mueller investigation is only the latest of these disguised counterintelligence police state gimmicks.

Without the Russians, Obama's people would have just been nakedly abusing their powers to spy on Americans. But as long as the Russians were active, his deep state had the excuse that it needed.

The two intelligence operations, the Russian one and the Obama one, were interdependent. Their deep state symbiosis was possible only because neither side threatened the core interests of the other.

The Russians were a national security threat, but Obama's people didn't care about national security. And Obama's counterintelligence operation was aimed at domestic political opponents rather than the Russians. It's still unknown if the Russians and Obama's people actively colluded in these operations, but it's likely that seasoned professionals on both sides had a quiet understanding of their respective roles.

The Russians had not set out to alter the outcome of the e******n. Nor did they have that capability. Their attacks followed the pattern of the Dulles Plan, a fictional piece of Soviet propaganda which attributed any anti-Soviet activity to an American conspiracy to undermine C*******m. The KGB veterans running Russia as an actual deep state sought to undermine the American political system by feeding extremism, creating panic and discrediting e******ns. And that also fit the Obama agenda.

Obama's people had spent eight years dismantling political norms and undermining America. The KGB deep state conspirators in Russia and their l*****t counterparts in Washington D.C. had emerged from the same ideological school. Their aims and allegiances had diverged, but the ex-C*******ts in Moscow and Adams Morgan Socialists in Washington D.C. shared a common hatred for America and its values.
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Protecting the Russians also protected the Obamas

There was no reason to interfere with the Russian interference. Obama and his people did not believe that the Russians would significantly affect the e******n. But if his efforts to eavesdrop on Trump officials came to light, the Russians had provided him with an alibi. Susan Rice, as national security adviser, was at the center of the eavesdropping effort and had every reason to protect the Russian operation.

Protecting the Russians also protected the Obamas.

Nor did the Obama deep state have any particular allegiance to Hillary Clinton's campaign. The Obamas and the Clintons loathed each other. Though both factions were l*****ts, their approaches were as much at variance as Bolsheviks and Trotskyists. Obama had been forced to make a deal with the Clintons to secure his hold on the Democrat operation. But his support for Hillary Clinton was only an endorsement of the lesser evil. Her defeat left him and his political allies in total control of the Democrat operation.

And the chaos and violence of his anti-Trump resistance achieved his goal of radicalizing the Democrats.

The Russians didn't hack the e******n. That conspiracy theory remains wishful thinking. But the allegation proved very useful in enabling everything from the pre-e******n eavesdropping on political opponents to the post-e******n sabotage of the Trump administration to the move away from electronic v****g to paper b****ts which enable the old-fashioned kind of Democrat b****t stuffing.

But like an iceberg, the most troubling development of the Russian conspiracy is mostly underwater.

After 9/11, the intelligence community was revived with a new purpose. That purpose was fighting Islamic terrorism. During Obama's two terms, the intelligence community was c*********d, crippled and t***sformed into a domestic deep state aimed at suppressing the political opposition. Tragically, it came to resemble the KGB, with its domestic surveillance and investigation of political opponents.

The Obama years politicized everything from the food you ate to the clothes you wore

This t***sformation of law enforcement and intelligence agencies did not emerge out of thin air.

The Founders were rightly cautious of the power of a strong central government. And a national law enforcement and intelligence infrastructure was always ripe for the worst big government abuses.

The FBI's record of political tampering under Hoover was no secret. And it didn't end there. Everything in Washington D.C. is political. Especially the apolitical. Its engine of careerism runs on networking and connections. The apolitical bureaucracy is a buzzing hive of ambition and backstabbing. Every agency has its own Machiavellian subcultures with courtiers, saboteurs, spies and manipulators. And every agency culture has a l*****t ideological component, among its other agendas, some more than others.

The Obama years politicized everything from the food you ate to the clothes you wore. Certainly no arm of government survived those terrible two terms without being substantially t***sformed.

As the cold winter sun set on another year in Washington D.C., the deep state was reborn.

The Democrats have spent two years accusing Republicans of colluding with Russia. But as usual they were accusing their political opponents of their own crime. Republicans had not undermined national security. The Democrats did. A Republican president hadn't sat across from Putin's agent and assured him that he would have more flexibility to make deals after the e******n. A Republican president hadn't let the Russians hack our national security secrets to provide a casus belli for targeting his opponents.

Any serious effort to investigate Russian e******n hacks must begin with Obama, the man who let them to do it

That was all Obama.

Barack Obama and Susan Rice sabotaged efforts to stop the Russians because their deep state domestic spying program depended on Russian collusion, both the reality and the allegation. Everything from the original allegation, Clinton campaign opposition research which drew on claims by a Russian intelligence operative, to the Mueller counterintelligence investigation, which has done nothing to actually stop the Russians, but has gone after Republican campaign pros, needed the Russians as its stalking horse.

Russian hacking didn't change the e******n. But Obama's exploitation of Russian hacking nearly did. We still don't know what materials were gathered by the eavesdropping operation. Or who saw them. Information is the ultimate weapon in national security and e******n campaigns. Obama used the former to tamper with the latter. And all these years later, we still don't know what damage was done.

While Mueller prowls around pursuing Hillary Clinton's conspiracy theories, those crimes remain unexplored. But we do know that the Russians didn't do anything that Obama didn't allow them to do.

Any serious effort to investigate Russian e******n hacks must begin with the man who let them to do it.

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Jul 16, 2018 16:37:12   #
JRumeryjr
 
Tgards79 wrote:
It's time for Donald Trump to Helsinki or swim, and once again we hear pundits wonder what exactly Vladimir Putin has on Trump that causes the President to endlessly supplicate himself before the Russian leader. The answer it is pretty obvious.
http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2018/07/btrtn-what-does-putin-have-on-trump-duh.html


money in the way of loans

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Jul 16, 2018 16:38:33   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
kemmer wrote:
Did any of you watch Trump give Vlad Putin a BJ in Helsinki today?

No but several dozen people saw you down on your knees zipping up Putin's pants.

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Jul 16, 2018 17:07:01   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
markinny wrote:
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. NICE TRY LIB!


Yes,complete BS, Trump's no pol. but he gets what we need done w/o help from the swamp.

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Jul 16, 2018 17:09:12   #
EmilyD
 
peter11937 wrote:
Yes,complete BS, Trump's no pol. but he gets what we need done w/o help from the swamp.


Yup...I'd go further and say Trump gets what we need done IN SPITE OF the swamp.

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Jul 16, 2018 17:21:51   #
JRumeryjr
 
EmilyD wrote:
Yup...I'd go further and say Trump gets what we need done IN SPITE OF the swamp.


Instead of draining the swamp, Donnie filled it up!

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